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Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« on: July 05, 2018, 08:59:42 pm »
i'm stuck in between something I can't judge if it's hack or lag or something else, I require your comments those who are part of this community from a very long time , share your thoughts.
as I always had hard time hitting them and they warp on my screen like they only have 512 kbps connection which is shared with some random guys who keeps on browsing adult website for pleasure ,but then if I look at their ping and their fps it only shows me good and stable internet connection symptoms.

Another video provided by Saim as a reference


another useful reference which is game speed and reaction time



if you have anything as useful as the videos mentioned here, consider posting the link and if I find them useful i'll add them up here for a clear view
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Re: Debate-is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 09:28:45 pm »
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2018, 06:26:04 am »
i'm stuck in between something I can't judge if it's hack or lag or something else, I require your comments those who are part of this community from a very long time , share your thoughts.
as I always had hard time hitting them and they warp on my screen like they only have 512 kbps connection which is shared with some random guys who keeps on browsing adult website for pleasure ,but then if I look at their ping and their fps it only shows me good and stable internet connection symptoms.


How is it possible that you call Kody a f1 or lag hack although you killed him? You really need a mental doctor m8.
If you think we use low pcs, check your 30fps video and this one ,
I know it's useless to talk with you but i would like that you grow up little and stop crying either go and play GTA VC single player better for you and don't show us your tears.
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2018, 07:34:55 am »
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2018, 08:08:00 am »
I think this is a Laggy Tag. :P Mean "Lag" word got associated with MDs.

Trust me if you use MD tag for a day, you will be called lagger more than ever.  :-X
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2018, 08:15:54 am »
Oh boy, I can't wait for DU vs MD in league. ::)
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2018, 08:56:07 am »
When 4 homies connect to a server from different PCs with 2mbps stable connection, makes it no more stable.
That's it.
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2018, 09:57:27 am »
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
Warhole your theory in general is actually wrong, I believe they own PC which run Vice City fine and their internet connection is stable too which is shown in their own videos, now assuming the theory of good PC and stable internet connection how can this lag happen?
i'm stuck in between something I can't judge if it's hack or lag or something else, I require your comments those who are part of this community from a very long time , share your thoughts.
as I always had hard time hitting them and they warp on my screen like they only have 512 kbps connection which is shared with some random guys who keeps on browsing adult website for pleasure ,but then if I look at their ping and their fps it only shows me good and stable internet connection symptoms.


How is it possible that you call Kody a f1 or lag hack although you killed him? You really need a mental doctor m8.
If you think we use low pcs, check your 30fps video and this one ,
I know it's useless to talk with you but i would like that you grow up little and stop crying either go and play GTA VC single player better for you and don't show us your tears.

I ain't calling anyone hacker or lagger, you could've said that if I reported them with the video somewhere but I did not, I want to know the actual reason behind this lag which makes you unhittable and allows you an advantage over others.
and that video you provided i find it irrelevant to the topic , if you want to create a video war of skills and rampage, create another topic i'll help you in managing it by adding contents to it.
I've edited the video for a slow motion preview there is nothing with the frame cap. but yeah I do have recorded the video on 30 fps because maybe you don't know but fraps limits your fps to 30 and uses rest of the fps for recording purpose, not my fault tho, my video in general is 13-14 minute video if we remove the parts which I added just for entertainment purpose , try to look at the whole video each second of it, and then give me a single reason to believe your theory considering their PC is high performance gaming war machines and their internet is as best as NASA'S.
here i'll help you out
Take a look at this scenario 
 2:58
Here is another useful part for you , in the above scene we can't call this lag because I knocked him down on the surface my first shot knocked him down, and then I took my second shot on his body while he is on the ground and after my second his HP refills, considering his HP when I knocked him down and his HP after the add-on before my 3rd shot by server which is an add-on in EC server nothing new.
3:29
before you say anything else here is the same case but this time instead of kody it's me who's on the ground but who oh why I can't survive the same situation over here consider my starting HP, and refill add-on too.
 14:40
in this certain part same thing happened again but this time it wasn't kody instead it was someone called lamberjack or whatever his nickname is , I shot him with spaz and yet i landed my second spaz bullet on him but it did not had any effect not even a tiny bit.
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here is another Clip of Kody where i knocked him down yet again i somehow managed to knock him down, but look closely my second bullet doesn't even has an effect on him, the third one did but why the second did not worked ?
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zkq i never had any issues regarding you since you were fine to me which i think is the same case as me in terms of you.
but for once leave everything aside take a look at the whole clip and give me something to disprove this theory, try to be fair listen to both sides before choosing where you would want to defend
i can also say that you need a doctor even whole community gets my point but yet still even looking at it with your bare eyes you are trying to avoid it .
i'm here to discuss so we could go further with this lag/warp or whatever the hell it is .
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here is a side by side Comparison of both clips
ReX's one 2:20 this one is mine 0:47
by looking at your clip i can see that your ping spiked just 2 times and when it did spiked you tried to spam F5 .
moral of the story is and the question still remains un answered what this actually is, since they themselves just disproved the theory of lag by providing a video clip.

I think this is a Laggy Tag. :P Mean "Lag" word got associated with MDs.

Trust me if you use MD tag for a day, you will be called lagger more than ever.  :-X
zkq does not have the lag which we see from them, in common the players without this awkward behavior or lag i'll say are Baba_Sain Zkq and Broly, but in my upper quote you can clearly see they debunked the statement of lag by providing a video clip.

Oh boy, I can't wait for DU vs MD in league. ::)
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2018, 10:03:53 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MLtUdMnYVw&feature=youtu.be

MDs are clean they say that its their lag and with this lag who can make this kind of precise head shots see the video above and is that a legit kill ?  aim snapped from meters to my head only one bullet smashed my head and then the aim goes back.
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2018, 10:24:52 am »
FFB trainer aka artificial lag trainer.
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2018, 10:45:45 am »
I'm also from Pakistan and PTCL user myself.I used PTCL before , currently i'm using StormFiber. i do not lag like them nor i warp the way they do, i believe we all should gather evidence to tackle this situation since the video creates a point on it's own, if we look at it the certain way i believe the lag which Darkwolf shares on some extend is acceptable because he is using the same internet connection which their father use for their computer course training center . but Why we see the same lag from their cousin brother called [TSS]Birdman. and ReX a few others i won't mention more names cause that might lead to a bigger argument just dropping my points on this thread . calm your tits
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2018, 01:33:57 pm »
When I brought stormeus's jitter check system back on the scene as an awareness, it started with the hacker [AFt]We3da^. Video here:



It was subtle, but his ping did change in these moments, from like 80s to 130s exactly at the moment he runs and behaves weirdly. That's what led to jitter check today in Vice War and my advising on its implementation for CTF and EAD. EAD tried but still need to re-assess the kicking aspect and NewK's interest is in developing 0.5 only so 0.4 won't be updated with it.

But I have another video to give you guys a practical perspective as to why it's important. I recorded this May 17th, just watch the movement's of his ping:



Does everyone understand why it's necessary to check jitter? He's there playing just fine while poor Cola_Sky coming back from 2, 3 years inactivity trying to kill him. Ping limit on EAD is 300 to 400, depending on how we set it the day. It's nowhere near 800 but it didn't kick in because it's an averaging system every server uses to check ping.
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 03:42:23 pm »
Back in the day (0.3 times) there was a clan named NxS and they used to set their FPS limit to 25, nowadays people are more creative and know how to mess with their pings, so nothing said here can be believed.
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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2018, 04:01:10 pm »
Here is another example of their F1 hack i do agree on the thing devil posted here it's an public awareness the thing is simple they are doing something under there which they were covering with their lag but i think this is the best place to post here.
in this video i was using spaz inside mansion and i knocked him  down but upon reaching him i shot multiple times on his body with my spaz but yet again no effect as per described in Devil's video.
this matter should be considered and looked upon because it's an disadvantage to fair players and i believe if we go further we will find more relevant clips .



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Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2018, 04:43:31 pm »
I don't know about others but ye i am 100% sure about kody he is using something. I also recorded him many times whenever you knock him down he won't take damage like he is using F1 or some other shitty 3rd party  tools(I will check for those videos i am not sure becuz reinstalled windows many times).
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