Can we all perhaps take a chill pill and find a compromise that will make everyone, except cheaters perhaps, happy? How bow dah?
Yes! Let's do that, and look at it concisely. Here's the conflict. I'm gonna call Gangsta and the peeps on his side A. And Krys and the people on his side B.
A: We're going to ban a bunch of cheaters, based on plentiful evidence, but we can't reveal that evidence otherwise cheaters could find a workaround to our detection method.
B: You can't ban a shitload of players without providing the public some evidence. That is a fucked up form of justice.
A: Trust me, or don't trust me, we're doing it.
B: It's not about trusting you personally, it's about trusting
anyone's sole proclamation of evidence, without their revealing it. One person's authority is not sufficient to take this kind of huge action. It sets a
very dangerous precedent, because while it may be you with the banhammer today, it will be someone else tomorrow, and you can't guarantee that they will be as trustworthy as you.
So, the evidence can't be revealed, but Gangsta as a single person cannot be the judge, jury and executioner. Here's where the compromise lies. Do not reveal the evidence. But, those who have seen the evidence, have seen the detection method and can vouch for its authenticity, need to say so. If we have something like five or more people who have different affiliations in the community (not all VUs), who can vouch for the evidence, then perhaps a sense of justice closer to what B has in mind can be established, while not sacrificing the methods developed by A.
So, to those who have seen the evidence, and can vouch for the detection method, please post either this or something like it in this thread:
I have seen the banathon 2k18 evidence, and the detection method, and can vouch for its accuracy. The bans that will be meted out because of the evidence, to the best of my knowledge, are just and can be trusted.
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Sound good?