Vice Underdogs
Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: ripmemes on September 08, 2018, 01:26:05 pm
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Hey lads
Since killerx's post, I started getting confused about how aimlock works so I thought it would be a great idea to make a debate for public awareness.
I am going to give links of video showing players' suspicious weapon shots.
1st video (killerx's):
https://youtu.be/vOLZ10AEicE
2nd video (tzunam's):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgnDc8Ido_w
3rd video (kockex's):
https://youtu.be/Cq0whbuKlY4
4th video (mine) :
https://youtu.be/An_DotU0dqM
1st: it literally proves nothing but there was a snappy shot, some players claim to be aimlock but it isn't
2nd: between 0:01 and 0:02 you can notice tzunam's snappy shot, players may even say it is aimlock but it is not.
3rd: some players say it is aimlock, others say it isn't and some say "it is suspicious/not enough evidence"
4th: this video is very obvious, it is aimlock.
what I am trying to say is a huge number of admins aren't totally aware of how aimlock works, as a result they keep banning innocent players by seeing their snappy shots while it isn't aimlock at all.
for the following months, I made a private search about how aimlock works but I didn't come to a result, I PM'ed many admins asking them some questions about the so called "aimbot" and I found different results.
some of them didn't bother to reply, the others kept saying "It is obvious you are an aimlocker and it is over" and ofcourse many kindly answered my questions.
so I decided to bring this up to public and I request everyone who tested or used aimlock before to help us know how it works by giving us information and solutions on this topic so admins can avoid misunderstandings and wrong decisions.
thank you.
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K
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
Seeing current status of VC:MP, they aren't experienced enough I can tell you.
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When you slow down a 30 fps video
Result: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
Seeing current status of VC:MP, they aren't experienced enough I can tell you.
That's something hard to say
Because we actually have to base our trust on their judgement, they are the guys that are carrying on the fix to this shit, and if we prefer to avoid their judgement, rely on our own opinions and just say that they are "unexperienced"; there will simply not be any kind of control, everything would be fucked up and non organized.
We either trust them and accept what they say, or throw more shit to the topic and literally don't do a shit nor give any other way/solution/method to fix this.
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
Seeing current status of VC:MP, they aren't experienced enough I can tell you.
Ez, if I get banned they are not experienced, if I don't get banned than they are experienced. Topic solved. Lock O0
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
Seeing current status of VC:MP, they aren't experienced enough I can tell you.
Ez, if I get banned they are not experienced, if I don't get banned than they are experienced. Topic solved. Lock O0
but why should you get banned if you are innocent? if you say that then actually 80% of the admins of VCMP are not experienced, even gangstaras made mistakes about aimlock cases so it would be perfect if we can share information about this for, ofcourse, public awareness.
I am not kidding, this is a serious matter sir.
I am telling you that when I actually asked you and other admins, I found completely different results so when you ban a player for aimlock, how can I be sure if you are either wrong or right, how can I be sure if whether that player is innocent or not?
ofcourse there are evidences, but as you see above, many players will say that's aimlock but it is not (1st and 2nd videos)
there is another video for wild hunter about sezaro, his shot was snappy like a real aimlocker, but when setting speed to 0.25 it is not!!
there are admins who ban players without breaking their eyes digging in the video to check its integrity. they are like "that's a snappy shot so it is 100% aimlock, BAN!!!"
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
Seeing current status of VC:MP, they aren't experienced enough I can tell you.
Ez, if I get banned they are not experienced, if I don't get banned than they are experienced. Topic solved. Lock O0
but why should you get banned if you are innocent? if you say that then actually 80% of the admins of VCMP are not experienced, even gangstaras made mistakes about aimlock cases so it would be perfect if we can share information about this for, ofcourse, public awareness.
I am not kidding, this is a serious matter sir.
I am telling you that when I actually asked you and other admins, I found completely different results so when you ban a player for aimlock, how can I be sure if you are either wrong or right, how can I be sure if whether that player is innocent or not?
ofcourse there are evidences, but as you see above, many players will say that's aimlock but it is not (1st and 2nd videos)
there is another video for wild hunter about sezaro, his shot was snappy like a real aimlocker, but when setting speed to 0.25 it is not!!
there are admins who ban players without breaking their eyes digging in the video to check its integrity. they are like "that's a snappy shot so it is 100% aimlock, BAN!!!"
Making a mistake and being unexperienced are completely different things.
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Pretty sure most experienced admins in most popular servers know what is aimlock and what is not
Seeing current status of VC:MP, they aren't experienced enough I can tell you.
Ez, if I get banned they are not experienced, if I don't get banned than they are experienced. Topic solved. Lock O0
but why should you get banned if you are innocent? if you say that then actually 80% of the admins of VCMP are not experienced, even gangstaras made mistakes about aimlock cases so it would be perfect if we can share information about this for, ofcourse, public awareness.
I am not kidding, this is a serious matter sir.
I am telling you that when I actually asked you and other admins, I found completely different results so when you ban a player for aimlock, how can I be sure if you are either wrong or right, how can I be sure if whether that player is innocent or not?
ofcourse there are evidences, but as you see above, many players will say that's aimlock but it is not (1st and 2nd videos)
there is another video for wild hunter about sezaro, his shot was snappy like a real aimlocker, but when setting speed to 0.25 it is not!!
there are admins who ban players without breaking their eyes digging in the video to check its integrity. they are like "that's a snappy shot so it is 100% aimlock, BAN!!!"
Making a mistake and being unexperienced are completely different things.
but the mistake is a result of non-obvious evidence.
just let me take my case as an example, when kockex shared his videos about me, and when fulton reported me on ead.
EAD staff team banned me because of the evidences not because of "yes I used aimlock I am ready for my fate..."
but when I actually told them to view the video on 0.25 speed, they were convinced that I was innocent and I was subsquently unbanned.
I want to prevent this, because not every player in VC:MP is aware of what he must do incase he gets banned, they could make mistakes because of their lack of experience, they cannot argue or counter-defend themselves as they have 0% knowledge of how aimlock works (just incase admins made mistakes)
I tell you that when I asked many admins, I found total different results, I just want to gather most accurate information about aimlock and share it to public to prevent mistakes.
the most accurate answer I got is from ELK, he provided me with many precious details about this hack and also gangstaras who explained me the origins of aimlock (sea sparrow and hunter cannon)
the point of this topic is, as I said above, to gather enough info about this hack. many of you know that it locks on head but that's not enough. Many versions were released for the past years, and each one has different characteristics. admins can misjudge someone's aim thinking it is aimlock, like (as an example) someone who doesn't stop shooting m4 while he rotates to turn in front of their targets, they can rotate fast to a point that it looks like snappy hence the admin will say it is aimlock without checking its integrity by digging on the video or by setting speed to 0.25.
in short words, I want to stop this, till this day players accuse me of aimlock but sometimes I click on 4 and 6 continously so it appears like it is this hack just for fun, well honestly I am tired of this and I think I suffered enough.
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You don't play vcmp so frequently as you must be, I bet if you play everytime DM servers. You will get how aimlock works.
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You don't play vcmp so frequently as you must be, I bet if you play everytime DM servers. You will get how aimlock works.
I don't think so.
the point of this topic is, as I said above, to gather enough info about this hack.
this is the point of the topic, I made it for public awareness so if any player faces an aimlocker he could deal with it.
my point from this is to end all misjudges for once and for all.
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You don't play vcmp so frequently as you must be, I bet if you play everytime DM servers. You will get how aimlock works.
I don't think so.
the point of this topic is, as I said above, to gather enough info about this hack.
this is the point of the topic, I made it for public awareness so if any player faces an aimlocker he could deal with it.
my point from this is to end all misjudges for once and for all.
You don't think so because you don't know, take a while and hear what else a guy tells you to deal. Don't be smart enough to judge the things which you are not aware of.
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You don't play vcmp so frequently as you must be, I bet if you play everytime DM servers. You will get how aimlock works.
I don't think so.
the point of this topic is, as I said above, to gather enough info about this hack.
this is the point of the topic, I made it for public awareness so if any player faces an aimlocker he could deal with it.
my point from this is to end all misjudges for once and for all.
You don't think so because you don't know, take a while and hear what else a guy tells you to deal. Don't be smart enough to judge the things which you are not aware of.
Alright.
I apologise for bothering you all, I am totally not involved in these cases, I feel sorry for all admins because I called them "unexperienced admins", now I promise I will not say that again. sorry for disrespect.
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Wow people do change their mind after getting so many brain donor rate. And here we have Casper what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Wow people do change their mind after getting so many brain donor rate. And here we have Casper what the fuck is wrong with you?
what do you mean?
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He means that despite every reply you post, you get tons of brain donor rank. Yet you don't give a fuck lol