Thank you morphine, Charley (again), Panzer, Sevrin, TheKing and Ferrari for your comebacks. It helps me and everyone here to see it from another perspective.

Honestly, I felt that Doom had a very serious point on that debate when he mentioned VU as a dominant clan that has an incredibly high amount of players on its rows. However, after reading this whole topic, the claiming of that a restriction / applications closedure would make a positive impact on VC:MP emergence of new clans is totally senseless.

On my actual view, locking applications will not only help at all, but will even make players leave more than they do instead. The reason is simple: You all have mentioned how current clans like VU / MK / SS / OSK (at my time) interact with a kind of players that are newbies to this game; the majority of us (even more the latinos like I) had to struggle to understand how the mecanism of the community is, I remember myself on my first attempts on Mega War and how I had none knowledge about the basics of a VC:MP forum.

I had to struggle and spend much more time than in a normal game to get into the rythm of the community and joining a clan was a great help for myself (OSK in my case because of my language, VU in case of majority), without whom I'd probably not be here.

The style and structure of clans and how their goal and objective make them so dominant, apart from the time and effort spent on building such a thing, make me think that if it weren't for them, none of us would be here.

To set my point, I want you to imagine if dominant clans closed applications - and match it to the current player base and projects in emergence: none of the newbies would be really able to join a clan frustrating them (as you said, most of players remain here because their clans are greater than VC:MP itself), very few people would be really capable of building a new clan from the scratch and would leave the game inmediately. It is gonna hurt VC:MP more than it already is.

The thing is the following: nobody understands that it takes time, and there's no "divine intervention" to help this game rise. It takes a lot of effort like VU, ULK and XE rised back at 2008.

Once again, thank you all for your contributions to the post

Thanks for replying and giving out your perspective.

Hey there. Weeks ago I was on these routinary forum checks and it was EA and Castagna who gathered my attention on EA's with a topic called "What happened to VC:MP clans?" (What proves once again how much of a social environment VC:MP is, rather than a common game - one of the reasons that keeps us here).

Whatever, I gave my two cents to the post, as well as did other people - (http://extreme-addicts.com/forum/index.php?topic=1344.0) - here is the topic for reference.

On context, even though I am not daily active, it's not news that VU is a dominant clan as Doom Killer said;

VU should get rid of like 80% of its clan, just have a goddamn limit on how many members do you want to keep. People forgot what clans are for, clans are supposed to be TEAM-SIZED, not meant to have enough numbers to take over everything.

Have a strict member count policy, so that people are forced to go to other clans or make their own ones, and then watch how the tables turn in favor of VCMP.

And this was also gathered by those of forum researches I make to pass boredom; more specifically from Sevrin's last application;

I also feel this pretty strongly. On the one hand I'm happy that VU's reputation is such that renowned players wish to join our ranks. On the other, it's fucking boring when one clan comes to dominate. The point of VU in the first place was to rival the main clans of the time, DnA, KFJ, MK and ULK. I saw them, and I thought I could do better.

I'd like to ask the protagonist here (VU), if you're pleased to answer and no problem exists. And also, any people that might be interested on this:

Is Doom right? - Would "closing applications" work as a real way to help smaller clans rise as he proposes? If you say yes, why yes?
And if you say no, why not?

The lyrics of the song make reference to the naked, "animal", urgent sexual desire: "when the body does not expect what they call love" / ("Cuando el cuerpo no espera lo que llaman amor ..."). In these conditions, Cerati confesses that "words do not help me, moaning is better. (No me sirven las palabras, gemir es mejor)"

The key word of the chorus and the song is "more" (más): More is asked and lived (Más se pide y se vive). The phrase admits several readings:

Living is asking for more
More is requested, more is lived
To be alive you always have to ask for more and more

Basically it is an "animal song", that is, a song that comes from the animal side of man and woman, from the most basic, most direct, immediate, irrational desire not mediated by social conventions, "animal".

However the lyrics also say that there is "nothing sweeter than desire in chains" (nada más dulce que el deseo en cadenas), somehow recognizing that the limits imposed by social conventions and love chain desire, making it paradoxically sweeter and more "desirable".

It is a real shame to see RTV fall this way. I hope justice gets to be made.

Ingame nick? I don't recall seeing you much these days.

Man you come out of nowhere and apply...i think it's not a good idea.NO for this time

Hey, well sincerily I have been only showing activity in forums this last month, this is because my internet has been experiencing troubles as well as I was fully stuck of pending homework,

I had also doubts before applying, not whether it's VU what I want or not, because I am pretty sure of that, but because of all what happened in the past; but I had to give the first shot some day, I have been thinking on joining VU since January but I had and still have much to demonstrate, so I tried to do my best these months and even then I knew it was going to be hard to join, if not impossible, I wanted to hear what you guys think about me nowadays after these months of activity.

I havent used any other nickname besides this one.

And for the ones who voted, I understand you, and thank you for being respectful

Congratulations. Sevrin I admire your courage to challenge one of the most dominant clans nowadays just some months after having launched your project. That speaks of RT as a clan that has a strong intention to bring competitivism to the game.

Couldn't see the match. I hope it was cool.