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Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 01:52:13 pm

Title: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 01:52:13 pm
i hope someone gives a shit about your community boys and some of their doggies using sort of new cheats in VCMP..
and for once I'm confused about posting here, cuz this kind of hacks is something not many players will be able to understand, just the real 'fans' of this game will know what is up..

OK so recently i've noticed some sort of weird behaviour of a cretin who came underalias just to hunt me down in Funvice, but what's got my attention is that his shots were coming out like a tornado literally, just like you could do with 0.3z (not saying 0.3z is better than 0.4, but on DM there are some traits that deserved to be added even today..)

so here's what's this about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZKRklTacPo

notice how starting with 0:35 i hit him 3 times with m60, still he magically didn't die (as players of DM may know, idk.. 3 shots of m60 is enough to kill someone, hp even drops below 0 but since it reaches 0 it doesn't matter anyhow, game will register a death..)

well, that wasn't enough for our old boy VeNoX aka Thorax, as you might remember him from the aimlock cheating scandal back in EC 2017, I known him for some time, he was gonna do his possible so that he brings players up in shotgun also, not only in m4..

in my video, watch carefully moments 00:33 & 00:45, and then if you STILL didn't understand what I'm trying to say, check this video and my topic on VCMP Forums about this issue...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8ONKLMyro


for once, i can't believe the hackers were first in solving a bug but ALSO making a cheat so that you can fire as much as you want with shotgun (giving you a HUGE advantage over the regular players in 1v1 fights)

to be clear: this cheat works with both shotgun and stubby, and it comes in pack with the rest of the aurora files in a .dll or gta-vc.exe (cheater's choice)

however, it wouldn't be fit if only hackers were the only players to use this..
I am not sure how many of you will be surprised about what I'm going to say, but here we go...

1) [F2]Nassim

strangely i noticed he had a weird evolution with shotgun.. normally players evolve by learning to jump when hit, or by learning to control the game better and fixing their timing but.. nassim had none of that, he instead was magically hitting me, when I soon came to realize why this happened...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyYC9dJzu9I
0:23

luckily, when I feel like someone's about to test his luck on me, I usually just upload their videos unlisted, but see how at 0:23 he fires continuously while crouching without even slowing down...
and what's worse, I'm not even fully aware of what else he might be using, because the people that use this most likely have access to other settings from that 'cheat menu'

you thought that was all? well nassim was stupid enough to record his own gameplay, in which you can see at a given moment that his shots come out in his perspective just ... like there was no limit at all..
here's it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Ka8J9bxzE

00:03

and here's my perspective while i was spectating without him knowing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0vIjiiIuVQ

00:10


try doing that with game_windowed 1, it will NEVER happen without injecting everything...


ok well.. what's coming is even more clear proof

2) [RT]ZeeX

nothing personal, zee, just when we fought I've noticed this on you, it's why players were all asking you to fight during your time in Funvice yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCD2HOBcBpU

there's no timestamps, i have just uploaded the moments where he was firing continuously.. just compare that to my 1st video here "aurora user" and see the exact same traits from the cheater actually are same as zeex's weird combat moments


and now, something that i've been investigating in quite some time, although nobody was believing the 'fake lag' variant, this have busted him, turns out hazard eliminating him from VCDC was just a karma..

3) =TLA=FulToN_619 (i dont give a shit if i miswritten his nick)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i71s-qKmiRo

famous video, known for nothing but spreading bullshit in VCMP, and I'm not saying "oh you know he made x7 cuz he was cheater"

i didnt even know it was him, ask MasterOz when we dueled first time what did i do with him, i don't push at all on weak players such as gorcee, had no idea fulton would have the balls to join under alias just for me after what happened in VCDC

5:30
7:50
11:23

CLEAR hits, and as you can see he fired the 1st shot

for those that don't know, this is how vcmp will respond upon spamming shotgun bullets:

1)
1st shot fired, 2nd fired right afterwards = 2nd shot will NEVER come out in other player's perspective

2)
1st shot NOT fired, 2nd fired = 2nd will come out, cuz game will percept this as being 1st shot fired, animation won't bug

3)
1st shot,2nd shot, 3rd shot and whatever till "n" shot fired = n shot will most likely come out, unless you rushed too hard to shoot


but NEVER you can fire 1st shot next to the other 2nd shot... unless you give it a 1.5 second gap between your fire
i am familiar with VUs questioning ZeeX's strange behaviour, so am I about Fulton and EAD, and the thing is this may or may not be true..

whoever uses this hacks,you cannot know what else he's hiding, it's a really big fucking pack full of cheats made for pussies

i want to see what others have to say about this subject.

evidence is clear, there's no questioning on neither of these players that it is a possibility their games responded as they should've..

but what disappoints me is that hackers create these, while there wasn't an update for long time .. allowing cunts to take advantage even in shotgun fights lol


all of them had exactly the same evolution, whether it's nassim, fulton or zeex

your only chance against a hacker who uses lag hack combined with that crouch animation fix, is to mix m60 with shotgun in such a way in which he takes most damage (fulton and the rest are very unskilled, which is why they can't combat such tactics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2e20IQMdc


surprisingly, there's nothing yet about your [KF]GerZ, although i expected him to be on this list sooner or later and although ferrari was accusing him of some cheats.. but the fact is, so far his gameplay doesn't suggest any modifications... time will reveal if he does switch sides however
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FulToN_619 on November 04, 2021, 02:24:51 pm
nie ben me plox :'( :'(
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Shadow.Jack^ on November 04, 2021, 03:02:44 pm
When you get tired from VCMP and you desperately want to quit VCMP then follow these steps :

1). Go in FunVice Server only when hunting is online.

2). Use your common tactics to make few kills in row on him.

3). You have to convince him to assume that you are suspicious on his view.

4). Wait till next day or maybe a month for his allegation topics against you in front on VCMP community.

5). If you have some fear from getting banned then this may gonna help you to leave. Otherwise, you cannot leave the VCMP instantly.

Remember, surrendering yourself infront of hunting is not a solution either.


Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Nassim^ on November 04, 2021, 03:04:59 pm
LMFAOOOO, ok I cheater, I gave emi my hacks too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXIR7uGGAQY
no ban me :((((((
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 03:15:36 pm
lol emi missed all his shots on you, if you want to make this work you will have to shoot first then when you fire the second time while crouched you need to hold your fire button for a few seconds


in the video which i recorded nassim as you can see there's no such thing, he just keeps firing without slowing down at all


When you get tired from VCMP and you desperately want to quit VCMP then follow these steps :

1). Go in FunVice Server only when hunting is online.

2). Use your common tactics to make few kills in row on him.

3). You have to convince him to assume that you are suspicious on his view.

4). Wait till next day or maybe a month for his allegation topics against you in front on VCMP community.

5). If you have some fear from getting banned then this may gonna help you to leave. Otherwise, you cannot leave the VCMP instantly.

Remember, surrendering yourself infront of hunting is not a solution either.

learn to crouch first, then again quitting vcmp is a good idea for you


better yet nobody is explaining himself lol, that's interesting
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Nassim^ on November 04, 2021, 03:27:07 pm
keep creating drama, after i made some kills on u raged on me and said i using hacks,
Then accusing zeex? nice nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoCixA0Z6Go
I know how it work, but i wont ever tell u how u can do it, have fun cya :)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Jesop on November 04, 2021, 03:37:43 pm
Rofl, what time do we live in....cheaters themselves accusing others of "cheats" lool


it's so ironic how the most delusional player in vcmp who gets rekt by everyone and starts finding excuses each time he gets rekt to be accusing others of cheats...

For example take a look at this :

1 - Hunting's desktop (he sent the picture of it to Sos with a porn background as a joke, then Sos exposed him)

https://imgur.com/a/DgYQdio
https://imgur.com/a/wYl4Pvb
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FhXGqwOV.png&hash=b2f5aaab34014106144cae5a173ec97b1a5820dc)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FEQf8ACU.png&hash=00c515793ff6bc86471084e18530cf3e83b3d47d)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FvLhwGYT.png&hash=0c6227b7a6fb54ad1256172d3b4c795780b7d8a6)

https://youtu.be/zfLiKbYrxGg
https://youtu.be/mCkrt9Z2TmQ


Not to mention how many times he has begged spitfire for hacks each time he gets rekt : (https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FRVEIqzg.png&hash=2401ee75347543ea9a21e11010ec75a8418e0873)
(https://i.ibb.co/DCJc1Qd/hunting-vs-burak.png) (https://ibb.co/4TqvFpk)
happines emoticons (https://emoticoncentral.com/category/happines)


accusing the ones who raped him in vcmp of hacks lmao :    ( TAXI SKIN HACKS LOOOL )

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2Fsmuk351.png&hash=73b90893c2e6ee66006b72c94008e51b6f3d0d0e)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2Ftvj7biZ.png&hash=9379f0c04258b4315ab0d39f439299ce065df61a)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FjmpXTfY.png&hash=36911d5ebbce88c753fc1edb922648407ce9c1f6)
(https://i.ibb.co/gRbD3QH/gerz-x4.png) (https://ibb.co/71xGXB8)
(https://i.ibb.co/3vXdYH9/unknown-1.png) (https://ibb.co/w7Hgr1F)
(https://i.ibb.co/3vXdYH9/unknown-1.png) (https://ibb.co/w7Hgr1F)
bath emoticons (https://emoticoncentral.com/category/bath)


Meanwhile he makes lots of excuses after he gets rape such as :

1 - My throat was dry

2 - Long fingernails

3 - Siren sounds outside

4 - sensor fell out of the mouse

5 - I was nervous


This guy is a completely clown lol, He doesn't know how to accept his defeat :

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FVkJnN8i.png&hash=0cd4bd4326d7a9fbe45cfa38aabf16a76401c0b3)
(https://i.ibb.co/y6h7NGt/pain.png) (https://ibb.co/9bwSpz6)





Not to mention he's never to be trusted, Betrayed his closest friend Firecum, then betrayed the one who was providing him with hacks aka "spitfire" then betrayed whole WK, and then betrayed the ppl who helped him "Juanxd" and "Pain", then betrayed Nassim, and already betrayed some members of F2,  who's gonna he betray next? lmao

(https://i.ibb.co/1rq695M/xxxxxxxx.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
number spinner google (https://freeonlinedice.com/)


Last thoughts : Don't take this guy seriously, he's a pure clown, he says he dedicated his life to VCMP,  some fun facts :

1 - He lives in a village away from the social world
2 - He uses an old gt 610 GPU which only runs VCMP at windows xp
3 - His dad is a 70 yo grey haired old man who can't afford him a better PC
4 - He sucks at the only thing he does in his life which is "vcmp"







For those who wanna learn how to punish a rat, check the video below in fb : ( 18 Sprees on this rat in total, He copyrighted this video from youtube because he didn't want anyone to see how pathetic he really is)

https://web.facebook.com/100011552389424/videos/595100981639752 














Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Inferno69 on November 04, 2021, 03:43:38 pm
nie ben me plox :'( :'(
Exposed. Get ready for community ban. GL


On Topic: Big brain investigation.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: ZeeX. on November 04, 2021, 04:18:52 pm
real gamer feeling when someone calls me hacker :cathearteyes:
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 04:33:51 pm
Rofl, what time do we live in....cheaters themselves accusing others of "cheats" lool


it's so ironic how the most delusional player in vcmp who gets rekt by everyone and starts finding excuses each time he gets rekt to be accusing others of cheats...

For example take a look at this :

1 - Hunting's desktop (he sent the picture of it to Sos with a porn background as a joke, then Sos exposed him)

https://imgur.com/a/DgYQdio
https://imgur.com/a/wYl4Pvb
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FhXGqwOV.png&hash=b2f5aaab34014106144cae5a173ec97b1a5820dc)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FEQf8ACU.png&hash=00c515793ff6bc86471084e18530cf3e83b3d47d)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FvLhwGYT.png&hash=0c6227b7a6fb54ad1256172d3b4c795780b7d8a6)

https://youtu.be/zfLiKbYrxGg
https://youtu.be/mCkrt9Z2TmQ


Not to mention how many times he has begged spitfire for hacks each time he gets rekt : (https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FRVEIqzg.png&hash=2401ee75347543ea9a21e11010ec75a8418e0873)
(https://i.ibb.co/DCJc1Qd/hunting-vs-burak.png) (https://ibb.co/4TqvFpk)
happines emoticons (https://emoticoncentral.com/category/happines)


accusing the ones who raped him in vcmp of hacks lmao :    ( TAXI SKIN HACKS LOOOL )

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2Fsmuk351.png&hash=73b90893c2e6ee66006b72c94008e51b6f3d0d0e)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2Ftvj7biZ.png&hash=9379f0c04258b4315ab0d39f439299ce065df61a)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FjmpXTfY.png&hash=36911d5ebbce88c753fc1edb922648407ce9c1f6)
(https://i.ibb.co/gRbD3QH/gerz-x4.png) (https://ibb.co/71xGXB8)
(https://i.ibb.co/3vXdYH9/unknown-1.png) (https://ibb.co/w7Hgr1F)
(https://i.ibb.co/3vXdYH9/unknown-1.png) (https://ibb.co/w7Hgr1F)
bath emoticons (https://emoticoncentral.com/category/bath)


Meanwhile he makes lots of excuses after he gets rape such as :

1 - My throat was dry

2 - Long fingernails

3 - Siren sounds outside

4 - sensor fell out of the mouse

5 - I was nervous


This guy is a completely clown lol, He doesn't know how to accept his defeat :

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgfz.com%2Fi%2FVkJnN8i.png&hash=0cd4bd4326d7a9fbe45cfa38aabf16a76401c0b3)
(https://i.ibb.co/y6h7NGt/pain.png) (https://ibb.co/9bwSpz6)





Not to mention he's never to be trusted, Betrayed his closest friend Firecum, then betrayed the one who was providing him with hacks aka "spitfire" then betrayed whole WK, and then betrayed the ppl who helped him "Juanxd" and "Pain", then betrayed Nassim, and already betrayed some members of F2,  who's gonna he betray next? lmao

(https://i.ibb.co/1rq695M/xxxxxxxx.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
number spinner google (https://freeonlinedice.com/)


Last thoughts : Don't take this guy seriously, he's a pure clown, he says he dedicated his life to VCMP,  some fun facts :

1 - He lives in a village away from the social world
2 - He uses an old gt 610 GPU which only runs VCMP at windows xp
3 - His dad is a 70 yo grey haired old man who can't afford him a better PC
4 - He sucks at the only thing he does in his life which is "vcmp"







For those who wanna learn how to punish a rat, check the video below in fb : ( 18 Sprees on this rat in total, He copyrighted this video from youtube because he didn't want anyone to see how pathetic he really is)

https://web.facebook.com/100011552389424/videos/595100981639752

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


inferno he beat u hard in making me laugh in time of serious topics...
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Ken_S on November 04, 2021, 04:36:16 pm
Gandu
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Inferno69 on November 04, 2021, 04:45:21 pm
Gandu

Introduction manga kisi ny?
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Ken_S on November 04, 2021, 04:47:41 pm
Gandu

Introduction manga kisi ny?
Hi all Inferno
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Roystang on November 04, 2021, 06:06:12 pm
hi all
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: aXXo on November 04, 2021, 06:45:27 pm
On a serious note, let's discuss some technicalities.

Vice City's weapons.dat (https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Weapon.dat/GTAVC) file defines the weapon attributes. What you mentioned is defined in attributes
#   R: animation loop start
#   S: animation loop end
#   T: point in animation where weapon is fired
#   U: animation2 loop start
#   V: animation2 loop end
#   W: point in animation2 where weapon is fired
#   X: point in anim where we can breakout of anim/attack and run away

R,S,T is standing animation
U,V,W is crouching animation.

VCMP has a default weapons.dat file, which is loaded on connect. So, all players use the same values.
These values can be controlled by server owners, but they will impact everyone on the server. Example, Stubby animation was faster in Vice War 9:
(https://i.imgur.com/7wUsi8O.gif)

What Hunting described in 1st shot.....2nd shot misses is:
Shotgun will only fire in the default fire rate defined in RSTUVWX attributes. Even if you C glitch too fast, the shots will not appear to other players. VCMP does not sync the shots that happen faster than the defined timings. This timing is same as when you just stand and hold the fire button.

Now here is a skill (I first saw Noori doing this) that can be used:
1st shot while standing (uses R,S,T anim values)
2nd shot while crouching (uses U,V,W anim values)
3rd shot while standing again.
and hence, when you alternate shots standing/crouching you can achieve a higher fire rate. Players do this all the time while standing in place and doing double/triple shots. Maybe, it works while moving in between shots too?  :o

Regarding hacking:
Maybe hackers found a way to modify their weapon.dat file read by VCMP. But ideally, that should put them at a disadvantage. They modified THEIR OWN weapons. Not YOURS.
Example, if their shooting animation is faster, then your shooting animation in their screen would also be faster. So, if you think someone is hacking...try doing ghost shots like in 0.3z. If they hit them, that would confirm that it is faster.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: SanaullaH on November 04, 2021, 07:09:15 pm

(https://media.giphy.com/media/THTNFjrEkCTkOac0Ml/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 07:09:30 pm
lol axxo they modified something that allows them to show 2nd shot in our screen, i have no idea what that is, if i knew i would talk about it

i am not sure if they modified it via weapon.dat, but i've seen aurora users actually firing like that, so it means it's something included in aurora files

there's only one way to make this "double C" work, and that is when you fire the 2nd shot, you need to hold W and your fire button for longer, so that anim will play in opponent's screen

in all the videos i listed, the players that did it have no actual delay while firing, which means they use custom vcmp stuff to make them get advantage


editing weapon.dat is actually not really the thing, because as you said, if they did this then most likely ghost shots would appear in their screen and they would not hit opponent with the 2nd shot, instead they'd get shot by the opponent


anyhow this is cheating assured.. see all the videos i linked above, it's no way anyone could deny this isn't cheating on such clear proof, and as i said most players would rush to say it isn't hack, but that is cuz of lack of knowledge about vcmp


Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 04, 2021, 07:10:24 pm
Extra Information:
https://youtu.be/4Ycd7FE2S4M
https://youtu.be/-ocz5IWILSU
https://youtu.be/XdpsBG5dKEk
https://youtu.be/SfRDwBRqw3s
(https://i.imgur.com/9sR8Iq2.png)
https://youtu.be/8GiHqOwbQHw
https://youtu.be/18Uo4rJr5bo
https://youtu.be/1c2bXaZcKkM
https://youtu.be/uGHWrAu2e64
https://youtu.be/1L_CHMFFhyw
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 04, 2021, 07:33:12 pm
-Reported for copyright-
2/3 Strikes
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Nassim^ on November 04, 2021, 08:00:00 pm
Sincerely i didnt wanted to show this, but you ruined all with your shit hunting, i told you about this, i warned you to stop being idiot but you never understood, well, i feel bad for you because you was my friend but you are crazy for vcmp. Check this logs, and make your own conclusions, for my side i think hunting is crazy with this game, he thinks all players who rape him have aurora, he first called me aurora user when i won him in m4/ruger duel, later he called fulton as aurora shotgun user, later he called risky as strangeaurora shotgun lag user , later gerz and now zeex and nassim.
(https://i.imgur.com/9sR8Iq2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/4thROlq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BziifSb.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/N2FYhti.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PGMovTw.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/2l7Ptx2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/dbTr7wD.png)
maybe Ferrari32 or another forum moderator should lock this topic
yep it's just a waste of time on creating drama...
And meanwhile hunting accuse pain - aimbot
fulton - ffb trainner
Gerz - ( he dont know still )
Zeex - i gave him my hax
Nassim - shotgun hacks
Check his desktop for nice.
hunting is untrusted, he's using ppls to help him, nothing new.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 08:05:26 pm
ok first, i will just leave link to all pain rekt videos in 1 link to don't spam this thread with nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChpgYjK0hztvIVSzqUxA_Ow

ok now back on subject, like i said, there's 3 cheaters that use this - nassim, zeex and fulton

i didn't mention anyone else
today another cheater came with exact same hack as them, and i recorded it
nassim, you asslick everyone and in their back u talk shit, so please don't make me do worse on you


special for fulton and anyone else who trust nassim as his friend: https://imgur.com/a/rrlzPMR

sure im untrusted

anyway, i'm waiting for reply from serious people about this topic

@axxo like i said, the way they found is disadvantageous towards the rest who don't use it, those that use it have improved timing (most likely, i guess) and improved shots since they can shoot as many as they want
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 04, 2021, 10:53:08 pm
here is the only way to throw these double crouches (it is very slow):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMC2cYTpW0U

now compare these to the videos i listed above

and also compare this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG1Dbaae6ZI

that is the maximum you can do with crouch one after another, it must be an interval of 1 second or more between the fired shots

there is no glitch/way to do this, only available via modding the game, test it yourselves and see

see nassim's videos too which he thrown as "proof", what he did has nothing to do with what he was doing in a fight, it's all a pretext to don't get banned

edit:
here's another video that proves existence of these cheats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r4W9QAJHJg

it was recorded long ago in Funvice, when someone was (presumably) impersonating [F2]Enforcer
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PunkNoodle on November 05, 2021, 08:07:16 am
I think the game is just too broken with all these glitches and whatnot being exploited there's basically no difference between cheating and playing cleanly :thumbsup:

More on the topic I'm not gonna bother unless it happens in any of the servers I'm admin on. If these people are cheating sooner or later they will get caught eventually.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 05, 2021, 03:37:39 pm
I think the game is just too broken with all these glitches and whatnot being exploited there's basically no difference between cheating and playing cleanly :thumbsup:
try playing against the aurora cheater when he turns on lag hack and the double spam cheat, if you win 1 round you have one of my seasparrows as gift in funvice if you ever play + i ask WK to give you all their money in EC

More on the topic I'm not gonna bother unless it happens in any of the servers I'm admin on. If these people are cheating sooner or later they will get caught eventually.

you've the evidence right now, what's to be questioned about it? you think they'll gamble their "reputation" forever? (mostly fulton)


as an update, I've asked [F2]Enf and he mentioned it wasn't him, and it's plausible since the guy that joined under his nick started insulting F2 (i don't see why enforcer would insult the clan he's part of and still be part of it)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FulToN_619 on November 05, 2021, 05:10:02 pm
More on the topic I'm not gonna bother unless it happens in any of the servers I'm admin on. If these people are cheating sooner or later they will get caught eventually.

you've the evidence right now, what's to be questioned about it? you think they'll gamble their "reputation" forever? (mostly fulton)
Waiting for community ban with 69 others... 😢
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Hazard on November 05, 2021, 05:14:19 pm
im bored of your long ass posts with no conclusion and sense
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Ülker on November 05, 2021, 05:17:20 pm
Hunting, I'ma be completely real with you man.

I didn't even read any of what you wrote. I just skimmed over it to see who you were accusing and was surprised to see ZeeX on that list. I can't imagine many others have read it in depth either, an assumption I'm making due to the numerous lack of serious reactions in this topic.

The thing is, you may actually be onto something here, but as you've said yourself, no one here trusts you nor has any respect for you due to your terrible history.

I used to regard you and Spitfire as two of the same, with both of you raiding and hacking servers without any real purpose and overall just being a complete outcast in the community of the game that you adore. Since the last year, I've referred to Spitfire as being on this "road to redemption," where through his efforts and patience, he's regained the respect and trust of several members of our community and even managed to get himself accepted into both TLA and the RTV staff team.

VC:MP clearly matters a lot to you, but unlike a few others here, I don't see why you enjoying this game so much as a hobby is really a problem. The real issue however lies with the complete certainty that if you don't change your ways and continue as you have been for the last few years, you will also continue being rejected in this community. Even at times where you're being completely honest and sincere, and onto something genuine, you'll only be regarded as the boy who cried wolf.

You can now go ahead and do as you will with what I've just told you. I'm expecting a reply along the lines of me having "no idea what I'm talking about" and that "I'm not even in the same league as you" lmao. It's just that I've seen this same scenario unfold a few times now and this time wanted to give my 2 cents. Peace ✌️
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: lol55 on November 05, 2021, 05:37:25 pm
Yes Fulton is a hacker and even some of VUs know this that he is using hacks from a long time but looks like no one have guts to ban him and big thanks to tic for exposing fuckton hacks by sharing the chat.

They are 100% sure that idiot fulton is hacker but still not banning him.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/898208429255036948/906232867418435675/Screenshot_20211105-222302_WhatsApp.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PunkNoodle on November 05, 2021, 05:44:13 pm
I think the game is just too broken with all these glitches and whatnot being exploited there's basically no difference between cheating and playing cleanly :thumbsup:
try playing against the aurora cheater when he turns on lag hack and the double spam cheat, if you win 1 round you have one of my seasparrows as gift in funvice if you ever play + i ask WK to give you all their money in EC
Of course I wouldn't win, I already struggle to win even when they aren't using anything :'(. My point was different though, all I meant to say is that there are lot of "clean" ways to make yourself invincible, and drawing a difference between what's clean and not it's too hard if not impossible. E.g. if your ping is above 200 and you're on wifi, facing packet loss, how can you really tell if that's just a case of being poor vs actually intentionally making yourself lag more. The end result is mostly the same and as such I declare the combat in this game, broken as heck.

More on the topic I'm not gonna bother unless it happens in any of the servers I'm admin on. If these people are cheating sooner or later they will get caught eventually.

you've the evidence right now, what's to be questioned about it? you think they'll gamble their "reputation" forever? (mostly fulton)
Which evidence am I supposed to look at, I saw like a fuckton of videos being posted and I don't want to waste my time analysing hours long footage. The videos you posted seem to be coming off EC though, I'm not part of the staff there, as such it doesn't really concern me unless we're talking about KoTH or RTV(where I'm part of the staff, even if I'm not active at the moment).
Best I could do would be giving my own opinion as a third party. But even there I might not be qualified enough as I don't usually play using many (combat) glitches and I don't have extensive knowledge about them as a result.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FulToN_619 on November 05, 2021, 05:45:30 pm
Yes Fulton is a hacker and even some of VUs know this that he is using hacks from a long time but looks like no one have guts to ban him and big thanks to tic for exposing fuckton hacks by sharing the chat.

They are 100% sure that idiot fulton is hacker but still not banning him.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/898208429255036948/906232867418435675/Screenshot_20211105-222302_WhatsApp.jpg)
Agreed, I'm a big hacker even cheat engine is fail infront of me 8)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZjpVnId.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iI9gh0x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NfM6Exg.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: R4H33L on November 05, 2021, 05:46:51 pm
Yes Fulton is a hacker and even some of VUs know this that he is using hacks from a long time but looks like no one have guts to ban him and big thanks to tic for exposing fuckton hacks by sharing the chat.

They are 100% sure that idiot fulton is hacker but still not banning him.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/898208429255036948/906232867418435675/Screenshot_20211105-222302_WhatsApp.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/898208429255036948/906237784841392178/IMG_3393.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 05, 2021, 07:10:14 pm
Hunting, I'ma be completely real with you man.

I didn't even read any of what you wrote. I just skimmed over it to see who you were accusing and was surprised to see ZeeX on that list. I can't imagine many others have read it in depth either, an assumption I'm making due to the numerous lack of serious reactions in this topic.

The thing is, you may actually be onto something here, but as you've said yourself, no one here trusts you nor has any respect for you due to your terrible history.

I used to regard you and Spitfire as two of the same, with both of you raiding and hacking servers without any real purpose and overall just being a complete outcast in the community of the game that you adore. Since the last year, I've referred to Spitfire as being on this "road to redemption," where through his efforts and patience, he's regained the respect and trust of several members of our community and even managed to get himself accepted into both TLA and the RTV staff team.

VC:MP clearly matters a lot to you, but unlike a few others here, I don't see why you enjoying this game so much as a hobby is really a problem. The real issue however lies with the complete certainty that if you don't change your ways and continue as you have been for the last few years, you will also continue being rejected in this community. Even at times where you're being completely honest and sincere, and onto something genuine, you'll only be regarded as the boy who cried wolf.

You can now go ahead and do as you will with what I've just told you. I'm expecting a reply along the lines of me having "no idea what I'm talking about" and that "I'm not even in the same league as you" lmao. It's just that I've seen this same scenario unfold a few times now and this time wanted to give my 2 cents. Peace ✌️

it's fine to don't trust me, but you should instead trust the proof that I've given you, back when Thorax invented aimlock i was the first one to smell it on him, and thanks to me they've figured out how it works, what does it take and eventually caught 2 cheaters from VU clan

if you don't trust me, idk how you will live with the hackers in your servers, me personally fulton avoids my presence anywhere, because he knows what i will do otherwise

I think the game is just too broken with all these glitches and whatnot being exploited there's basically no difference between cheating and playing cleanly :thumbsup:
try playing against the aurora cheater when he turns on lag hack and the double spam cheat, if you win 1 round you have one of my seasparrows as gift in funvice if you ever play + i ask WK to give you all their money in EC
Of course I wouldn't win, I already struggle to win even when they aren't using anything :'(. My point was different though, all I meant to say is that there are lot of "clean" ways to make yourself invincible, and drawing a difference between what's clean and not it's too hard if not impossible. E.g. if your ping is above 200 and you're on wifi, facing packet loss, how can you really tell if that's just a case of being poor vs actually intentionally making yourself lag more. The end result is mostly the same and as such I declare the combat in this game, broken as heck.

More on the topic I'm not gonna bother unless it happens in any of the servers I'm admin on. If these people are cheating sooner or later they will get caught eventually.

you've the evidence right now, what's to be questioned about it? you think they'll gamble their "reputation" forever? (mostly fulton)
Which evidence am I supposed to look at, I saw like a fuckton of videos being posted and I don't want to waste my time analysing hours long footage. The videos you posted seem to be coming off EC though, I'm not part of the staff there, as such it doesn't really concern me unless we're talking about KoTH or RTV(where I'm part of the staff, even if I'm not active at the moment).
Best I could do would be giving my own opinion as a third party. But even there I might not be qualified enough as I don't usually play using many (combat) glitches and I don't have extensive knowledge about them as a result.

well

in simple words, there's a fast switch hack that allows you to repeat as many shots you want (normally VCMP doesn't allow this, but with this cheat you can gain advantage in shotgun fights, and as Crow said it's very OP and impossible to beat if the right player uses it)

see the proof
(https://i.imgur.com/My6NOug.png)


ignore me being the one to post this, I guess I should've made an undercover name so that ppl don't react on this based on who I am and my past, but no matter if I've a dark past, this proof shows cheating and you must take action if it turns out to be true, which to me it seems like it is perfectly fine.

I'll keep poking some guys who seem to have this cheat, maybe they'll give me more info about it, it is one of the most OP things to ever done to shotgun, this + the lag cheat by Kewun


as i said, read above posts, whoever has this hack has access to many other aurora features, and you simply cannot put trust in someone like Fulton who acts to be clean and gains your trust, and in the back he does this cheating propaganda along with zeex and nassim, or whoever there is.

truth is, I have been cheating in my past, but I don't remember gaining trust of everyone, making everyone see me as "wow hunting so respected player never used cheats" and then breaking your trust

I used, I admitted it. I'm not like none of these pussies to use it and hide it onwards

if i did use and hide something, i didn't do it to gain advantage in 1v1 fights, not now not ever. I've did cuz i had my reasons to do it back in EC, and you know how EC staff was like back then

as much as you wouldn't believe me, I didn't use anything when I dueled someone with neither shotgun,stub

the only thing i have is when an aurora cheater joins server (well at least i had it in past), i used to turn on spitfire's godmode from his cheats so that he doesn't spoil the fun anymore, and that happened in servers with no active staff at all..

don't believe me? ok fine, I didn't ask you to, but the videos I recorded show that these boys are not really typic players who you can have fun with, more than that everyone seems to react on my report based on who I am


dafuq does that matter? I thought you was going to either conclude if the report is true or not, instead of asking "Who are you to report xx player" lol

I didn't use anything against them at least, my 2016 past is 2016 past, when I had spitfire's stuff I didn't raid servers for nothing with it, i kept fucking around LW cuz it's LW and i don't care, I'm already banned permanently there

thus me not showing care for EC when I could break into it, doesn't that really mean anything?

when i played in LW or VCCNR (as i guess that's what you mean) I did it cuz I didn't care about rpg or worse, LW.. i just thought since im not getting unbanned, let's have some fun, even so I didn't use any cheats in VCCNR compared to what i did in LW, i just played there to have fun

it doesn't matter anymore, these boys won your trust only so that they could hit you in your back when you least expect it, that you cannot compare to what i was doing, when i was telling everyone i had cheats back in 2016 (some gravity hacks as i remember, then in 2018 the aimlock story with EC staff)

i didn't use aimlock to win, I used aimlock to fight back on EC staff for all the nonsense bans towards me and WK..

believe me, I don't need aimlock to win m4 fights, never did.. i guess that's all the irony

i'm sorry for making innocent people go through this, but they should understand that i didn't hide my cheats to win, not now, not ever.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 06, 2021, 06:35:49 pm
ok, after further investigation this is what i found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9IWPCFr-OQ

i've asked ZeeX today to reproduce this with stubby and he could, but with shotgun he couldn't do it, and that is because, as you know shotgun is actually most bugged one between its alternatives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5iOl8tfCIA

which means, that Zee most likely has proved his innocence, he didn't know actually what he was doing to make this happen, till i noticed his movement were kind of breaking in middle of switch, which made me believe it's all due to his slow movement with stubby (without sprint)

STILL this trick cannot be reproduced by holding shift with stubby and sprinting after fire, it can be done but it's kind of difficult to do (not impossible)

that is the last way to do it, which only works with stubby, no matter how zee tried he couldn't do this with shotgun neither, so therefore he doesn't use any aurora i believe..

which means the only cheaters rn left on the list are nassim and fulton

here's another evidence of a guy doing using this hack with shotgun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtXi0fVQjs


to do this double fire with stubby, all you need to do is don't sprint after you get up from crouching, but it ONLY will work with stubby (and spaz, since spaz can do this under no restrictions)

still, be careful, this hack does still improve stubby's gameplay, which means that aurora users can still use it to their advantage since stubby isn't 100% accurate on its shots...
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 06, 2021, 07:16:06 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/VEieP6g.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 06, 2021, 07:42:38 pm
meanwhile lord pain in private:

https://imgur.com/a/aReCZlR
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 06, 2021, 07:53:59 pm
Yes, i dont care about your shit h, because no one take you serius, and you just lose your time here and in vcmp, just Sos want you in VCMP right now hh
(https://i.imgur.com/v4vVgfU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/KQ7nfSN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/y9vCwh0.png)
HUNTING OSCAR REWARD 2021
philosopher huntpig vladog from romania 2021
"I can lose all now, because i already lost my best friend"
(https://i.imgur.com/yYBPjIo.png)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: lol55 on November 06, 2021, 07:56:13 pm
Fulton is hacking since 2018 but yet we don't have any admin to ban him but but i hope the Upcoming event in KOTH fulton wont be allowed to participate since Axxo know about fulton hacks very well.

#FultonHacksExposed
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 06, 2021, 08:15:08 pm
*You rape hunting*
hunting 3 minutes later on forum: "new cheating in vcmp"
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 06, 2021, 09:18:30 pm
Fulton is hacking since 2018 but yet we don't have any admin to ban him but but i hope the Upcoming event in KOTH fulton wont be allowed to participate since Axxo know about fulton hacks very well.

#FultonHacksExposed

i'm not sure since when he's cheating, but i think lag hacks were a fashion even before this shit came out, only he can tell us

*You rape hunting*
hunting 3 minutes later on forum: "new cheating in vcmp"

pain stop eating shit around here, i understand you are pwned by everybody in VCMP and you have a pain inside ur ass, but you don't need to show it off and disrupt such a topic, go show your pain in the ass somewhere else please

@admins please take care of this moron spamming around the forum with his shit, who the fuck even pays attention to him ?
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Major on November 06, 2021, 10:15:46 pm
holy...
You guys literally wrote words more than the one written in my studies book i prefer reading my studies book than reading something especially related to vcmp.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Morfin on November 06, 2021, 10:32:46 pm
Yes Fulton is a hacker and even some of VUs know this that he is using hacks from a long time but looks like no one have guts to ban him and big thanks to tic for exposing fuckton hacks by sharing the chat.

They are 100% sure that idiot fulton is hacker but still not banning him.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/898208429255036948/906232867418435675/Screenshot_20211105-222302_WhatsApp.jpg)
Mrs drama queen,I use turkish lang in discord, if u still talking about expose, yes I exposed ur mom selling her gand in paki streets
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Vedder on November 06, 2021, 11:30:16 pm
Guys, I would like to give out an opinion, trying not to look over-smart to any of you, for I know that I am a Trainee with lots of things to learn:

Can we stop diverting every topic with non-sense bullshit, personal abusements, insults to parents, accusatory posts with offensive manners, fowl language, fowl language in other languages, attacks on a player's lag or skills?

Every topic nowadays is ending in a filthy mess. Please cut it off; it is fucking annoying to try to watch the forum for a genuine conversation and only finding:


I personally think that Hunting has brought a point here because he is keen to VC-MP and wants to prove something he thinks he has enough evidence for, though I have not really read everything he posted, for I stand once again along PunkNoodle, believing out of personal experience (though it may be a wrong thought) that this game is so broken to be complaining about every minor modification. But if Hunting is wrong, why not simply addressing him with arguments / either ignoring him?
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Charley on November 07, 2021, 01:55:14 am
We encourage the community to post here, and we are much more lenient about where and what people can post than most forums. We respect free speech, and the right of everyone to have a voice. However, there are limits.

We will not allow this forum to become a place where people do not feel welcome because of disgusting, abusive language directed against them predicated on their gender, race, religion, skin colour, sexuality or background.

Stop before banhammer comes out. Thanks.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Sosx on November 07, 2021, 01:22:40 pm
huntpig, 

gimme your thoughts on this :

https://youtu.be/gxfX1IF0L34


Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Spiller on November 07, 2021, 04:43:47 pm
Well Hunting, normally I go against you because whatever you post rarely makes sense.
And this is one of those times where it does. I'm only gonna focus on what you have posted and not your past or our past interactions.

These are not my prime times, I take pleasure in other games now. I don't play this game in casual deathmatch anymore. But back in the day I used to, I had tried to fine tune my jump timings to get out of shotgun shots, it did take quite some time. And that's when I started noticing that certain players were shooting shotguns faster than others, my muscle memory was settled to jump at a certain time after the player had gone into shooting animation. However, some players shot before that time and knocked me, I often complained to my friends accompanying me in discord voice that this bullshit is happening. I tried to spectate, but nothing out of ordinary would come out. So yeah, all this makes sense to me and its not just Hunting's random cryout to rivalries.



The problem with this was that, as aXXo said, if they were making changes to weapon.dat values (by cheat engine or whatever), it should have only affected their own weapons causing more trouble than not. Then I thought maybe it has something to do with ping/jitter perhaps, so I wrote a node.js script to simulate high ping with jitter and loss to test this. And I did, I started all this yesterday, however, Hunting's theory stood true, I could not possibly sync my shotgun spam that fast, even at 200 unstable ping and 20% loss. Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQulKpHinpU

-

Now I know that this can be caused by unstable FPS because the sync goes cray cray, resulting in shitloads of ghost shots and desyncs. So the video posted by Sos on Burak is most likely due to an unstable FPS situation.



So, for a while I stopped all this. Some time later I notice that shotgun actually has some sort of a (separated) secondary animation, perhaps for reload. You can even hear the reload sound, and I think if you shoot before it has completely finished, it will not sync for others. Making it truly impossible to sync an actual spam that fast unless you managed to do a ghost shot due to whatever reason - jitter or unstable FPS. Got me thinking if players with legit unstable connections could manage that, since I was only simulating such a scenario. But even if they did, it could not have been possible to do it as in Hunting's videos, syncing all of them (unless the game is more fucked up than I think).

I thought more, on the reload animation part. And it strikes my head, what if- what if I use a no reload hack? So I tested that. And voila, I could manage to reproduce it accurately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onhSGX2cbeE

So, I went back and tested it more. The onPlayerActionChange event was not being called for shotgun after no reload hack. Later I found out that it was actually being called but only after switching weapons or crouching, it seems the no reload messes the shotgun mechanics completely. The reload animation is being skipped as a whole, there's not even the reload sound anymore. So indeed, it is possible to sync these type shots but only with illicit modifications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjbnz1su2rM



I'm not gonna drag names of the people I might have noticed similar stuff earlier on, because its entirely in my memories, which can't be accurate enough, don't want someone innocent to be blamed for using anything when the game's sync is like it has been kicked across the length of a football field while it was pregnant the whole time. It might even be possible for someone to reproduce it without modifications - with some obscure glitches.

I have zero idea about how Aurora implements it. There is a Turbo Glitch in screenshots of Chili Trainer too but I'm not gonna download that on my PC. I have access to an old Aurora source code but it has no mentions of fast switch or turbo glitch, so it was presumably added recently. It might even be possible to do by modifying animations (the reload ones to be accurate), not sure, I'm not gonna test that either since this result is already pretty satisfactory to me.

But I hope all of this helps somewhere, it may induce atleast a sense of getting banned for those using it - if they are/were - and they stop.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: lol55 on November 07, 2021, 07:15:46 pm
Isn't funny how VU is protecting or promoting toxicity in community or i say in their own forum by their own members since they are not even deleting the post contain abusive content and giving verbal warns again and again when the same member of VU is abusing again and again.

If it had been by hunting he would have been banned by now.

I hope now no one comes and delete this post aswell with reason dont go off-topic.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 07, 2021, 07:30:09 pm
huntpig, 

gimme your thoughts on this :

https://youtu.be/gxfX1IF0L34


100% using it


@spiller i had no idea that the no reload would cause this effect with shotgun
but then again, Crow gave this away himself:
(https://i.imgur.com/ms9HmXE.png)

not sure that the players using it would use the no-reload, it would be too obvious while playing and watching their ammo

my guess is, who does use this, modified his fast switch, as in your last video spiller, and as crow has mentioned in that comment

this is a serious hack in 1v1, it's something on par with aimbot, you cannot win a single round no matter how good you are when a player uses this + the lag cheat, cuz you simply cannot hit him, it's like he's turning your shots against yourself..
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Sosx on November 07, 2021, 08:59:34 pm
huntpig, 

gimme your thoughts on this :



100% using it



his aim is also sus, but still sucks


@spiller Nope it's not a fps issue, he had 60 fps, i checked it
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Spiller on November 08, 2021, 04:09:13 am
@spiller Nope it's not a fps issue, he had 60 fps, i checked it

I hardly believe he can get stable 60, but if he did it more than just once, probably yeah.
(https://i.imgur.com/gSQGRQH.png)

not sure that the players using it would use the no-reload, it would be too obvious while playing and watching their ammo

Yeah its not no reload that they're using. I'm not saying that they are, but whatever it is, it does something similar to what no reload does to the reload animation, whether it be aurora or animation modifications. All in all, there's no absolute way of doing this without such modifications.

And its hard to catch if someone is using it and they don't spam fast enough. It's too subtle, yet gives too much advantage in combat.

I have not analyzed any proofs regarding this, and I don't think I'm going to. Because in the end, it leads to nothing but same excuses of this game being broken, players playing with absolutely wack internet connections, monitors turning off and whatnot. Its better off if I don't bother.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 08, 2021, 12:34:42 pm
ok so ban the cheaters with no questions asked when this has been settled, although it took time for me to actually believe fulton was using this

turns out even most "CLEAN PLAYER" can become a cheater any day, all cuz of the ego

keep your eyes peeled however, I doubt they're not the only ones involved in this..
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: aXXo on November 08, 2021, 03:15:39 pm
Good finding guys! Shotgun is easily fixable.

I went through this topic and realized:
- Shotgun bad sync happens due to Reload Speed as Spiller mentioned
- Stubby has no problem according to Hunting.

Its known that all these values are defined in weapon.dat which can be modified in server settings. So, I checked the ReloadSpeed values of both weapons
Stubby is 250
Shotgun is 450

I changed shotgun's ReloadSpeed to same as Stubby:
Code: [Select]
SetWeaponDataValue(19, 4, 250)
and the results are amazing!
Shotgun is syncing on every rapid C-Glitch shot. There is no other change in that I noticed, though you can test further.

I'm not sure if the hack exists, but if everyone is enabled to make those rapid C shots, it would practically become useless.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 08, 2021, 03:42:45 pm
Good finding guys! Shotgun is easily fixable.

I went through this topic and realized:
- Shotgun bad sync happens due to Reload Speed as Spiller mentioned
- Stubby has no problem according to Hunting.

Its known that all these values are defined in weapon.dat which can be modified in server settings. So, I checked the ReloadSpeed values of both weapons
Stubby is 250
Shotgun is 450

I changed shotgun's ReloadSpeed to same as Stubby:
Code: [Select]
SetWeaponDataValue(19, 4, 250)
and the results are amazing!
Shotgun is syncing on every rapid C-Glitch shot. There is no other change in that I noticed, though you can test further.

I'm not sure if the hack exists, but if everyone is enabled to make those rapid C shots, it would practically become useless.
good lol

but the problem is, the one who has this hacks is most likely to be in posession of some other shotgun cheats, as Crow mentioned

this is a problem indeed as long as it's used through hack, but there's 1 more thing: the lag efficiency can be set in the aurora's controller

if everyone would be able to make these shots, then it would be absolutely amazing

but, like i said, stubby and shotgun do have problems both, only stubby is LESS bugged

if you do that double shot with stubby, you need to press and immediatly release sprint after getting up from crouch animation, just before firing again

if this makes shotgun just like stubby, then it's 50% fixed, still something however..

i want to see this in action before i talk about it..
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Spiller on November 09, 2021, 05:24:07 am
I changed shotgun's ReloadSpeed to same as Stubby:
Code: [Select]
SetWeaponDataValue(19, 4, 250)

Well looks like it fixes the sync problem on rapid shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piqmOg9F9S0

However, the fire rate is bizarre when crouching, check 0:19. Not something I'd want to put. I can try placing it in RTV for some time and see the response.



ok so ban the cheaters with no questions asked when this has been settled, although it took time for me to actually believe fulton was using this

turns out even most "CLEAN PLAYER" can become a cheater any day, all cuz of the ego

I don't know what "clean" even means anymore. I won't be shocked if anyone turns out to be a cheater, you never know.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: SpitFire on November 09, 2021, 01:22:54 pm
Explanation is simple. In-clip ammo is not synced in VCMP and depends on client-side. Switching weapons resetting ammo for both sides correctly, except for shotguns, as it's single-shot weapons. So, for 1 side reload is finished, and for other side its not. And this bug can be fixed with editing 2 parameters:

SetWeaponDataValue(19, 5, 1000), and SetWeaponDataValue(19, 19, 29). So, it won't affect shooting speed while crouching AND will fix this bug.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Hazard on November 09, 2021, 04:03:42 pm
Meanwhile Aurora users being happy
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: SMD on November 09, 2021, 06:05:15 pm
dm me hack later once everything is clear so i'll use it too
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 09, 2021, 08:50:07 pm
tested it today in koth, and in funvice

i can say this made vcmp rly better
however shotgun's mechanics still a bit broken, so don't expect same results as with stubby

even so, glad that once this is implemented you can double fire to correct your shot if needed
spamming shots AS HARD AS POSSIBLE is ineffective if it's done just infinitely, cuz it can get u killed, so there's no super weapon in this, just requires bit of brain in DM


and now I want to know what you will do with the 2 caught cheaters [F2]Nassim and =TLA=Fulton


and btw, thx Spitfire for leaking these codes from aurora I guess lol

and lol big thanks to Crow for fixing this bug and making a superweapon with shotgun (lag hack + this = deadly combination)

now the real question is, what other shits do these 2 clowns nassim and fulton hide?
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: MixeR on November 12, 2021, 09:07:29 am
On a serious note, let's discuss some technicalities.

Vice City's weapons.dat (https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Weapon.dat/GTAVC) file defines the weapon attributes. What you mentioned is defined in attributes
#   R: animation loop start
#   S: animation loop end
#   T: point in animation where weapon is fired
#   U: animation2 loop start
#   V: animation2 loop end
#   W: point in animation2 where weapon is fired
#   X: point in anim where we can breakout of anim/attack and run away

R,S,T is standing animation
U,V,W is crouching animation.

VCMP has a default weapons.dat file, which is loaded on connect. So, all players use the same values.
These values can be controlled by server owners, but they will impact everyone on the server. Example, Stubby animation was faster in Vice War 9:
(https://i.imgur.com/7wUsi8O.gif)

What Hunting described in 1st shot.....2nd shot misses is:
Shotgun will only fire in the default fire rate defined in RSTUVWX attributes. Even if you C glitch too fast, the shots will not appear to other players. VCMP does not sync the shots that happen faster than the defined timings. This timing is same as when you just stand and hold the fire button.

Now here is a skill (I first saw Noori doing this) that can be used:
1st shot while standing (uses R,S,T anim values)
2nd shot while crouching (uses U,V,W anim values)
3rd shot while standing again.
and hence, when you alternate shots standing/crouching you can achieve a higher fire rate. Players do this all the time while standing in place and doing double/triple shots. Maybe, it works while moving in between shots too?  :o

Regarding hacking:
Maybe hackers found a way to modify their weapon.dat file read by VCMP. But ideally, that should put them at a disadvantage. They modified THEIR OWN weapons. Not YOURS.
Example, if their shooting animation is faster, then your shooting animation in their screen would also be faster. So, if you think someone is hacking...try doing ghost shots like in 0.3z. If they hit them, that would confirm that it is faster.

Maybe Hunting is a bit right, a few weeks ago I saw a conversation of two players talking about "modifying the double time with shotgun". When I saw that I commented on it in my clan chat.I thought it was not important. but seeing this now.

When I saw some comments on this topic, I decided to find more about this conversation but the discord channel eliminated it.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816859880006483988/908641060513796096/Screenshot_2021-11-12-04-54-08-751_com.discord.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 12, 2021, 07:43:24 pm
removedYou can modify the cooldown of your shoots with shotgun, its obviusly if you can make fast doubles or slow doubles if you know as well the timeline of the cooldown, maybe this case is similar when mixer tought VCMP settings and the keyboard's config was a hack of "macros" XDDD
EXAMPLES
Fast double : MIN 3:52
https://youtu.be/18Uo4rJr5bo
MIN 3:00
https://youtu.be/1c2bXaZcKkM
MIN 1:42
https://youtu.be/xmN9wcqVqRo
sLow doubles: MIN 2:32
https://youtu.be/ovI9G6iV4d0
removed
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 13, 2021, 04:27:34 am
can anyone ban pain from posting? I'm too lazy and bored of him to respond back, I don't even have why, then again he's seriously gonna end up blasting any topic with his useless messages from now on..

@Mixer
pain is a moron, I doubt he can modify anything in his game, but as you know there is others that can help him do it

if he does manages however, he can be caught easily
for now, the only dangerous hacks are lag hack for shotgun or F1, without these, in some servers doubles are already available

make sure to modify OSK DM to these values and see the difference

SetWeaponDataValue(19, 5, 1000), and SetWeaponDataValue(19, 19, 29)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PunkNoodle on November 13, 2021, 05:56:07 am
can anyone ban pain from posting?
I think Charley or some mod will take care of it soon.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: MixeR on November 13, 2021, 02:38:51 pm
can anyone ban pain from posting? I'm too lazy and bored of him to respond back, I don't even have why, then again he's seriously gonna end up blasting any topic with his useless messages from now on..

@Mixer
pain is a moron, I doubt he can modify anything in his game, but as you know there is others that can help him do it

if he does manages however, he can be caught easily
for now, the only dangerous hacks are lag hack for shotgun or F1, without these, in some servers doubles are already available

make sure to modify OSK DM to these values and see the difference

SetWeaponDataValue(19, 5, 1000), and SetWeaponDataValue(19, 19, 29)
Thanks, I will do it
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 18, 2021, 01:23:34 pm
quite a hard decision to fuck up who you thought was 'clean', isn't it..

fulton is free to use even aimlock, i'm pretty sure staff will not even believe it even when they saw it with their own eyes
thank fuck it wasn't me caught with that shotgun thing, else all vcmp would be like "hahah hunting hacks"

then again, who would ban fulton like that? i think they'd break their fingers while typing /ban or smth
just another pointless time wasted on giving you serious information and as a thanks i have you giving disappointing answers to it
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: vito3 on November 18, 2021, 01:38:48 pm
Your information is useful and your effort is valuable (in past you also helped with frametime lags in king of hill https://forum.vc-mp.org/?topic=8551.0 )
Server owners who value DM aspect of gameplay reading your reports and keeping it in mind while scripting.
But fulton will not be banned and removed.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 19, 2021, 05:53:41 pm
But fulton will not be banned
of course

you removed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpa1BcijsGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JLJayomYaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zukcoPMbqSs

coming from you? K lol, just don't waste too much energy writing messages here, you oversized meatball
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Charley on November 20, 2021, 04:19:24 am
Hunting, why are you calling for Pain to be banned, then making posts in exactly the same way he does?

These posts full of YouTube videos are annoying as fuck. Don't you guys realize they make you look like douchebags?

Edit - sorry I woke up hungover haha, the above comment is unnecessarily aggresive.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 20, 2021, 01:37:28 pm
Hunting, why are you calling for Pain to be banned, then making posts in exactly the same way he does?

These posts full of YouTube videos are annoying as fuck. Don't you guys realize they make you look like douchebags?

Edit - sorry I woke up hungover haha, the above comment is unnecessarily aggresive.

charley: "hunting why u spam"

none: "let's ban the hackers"

as i said, you only care about what I would do
i linked those videos over to vito to show who is the real cheater ingame
it's disgusting to post here and the only replies on topics is just inferno and his paki friends spamming the shit out of the thread with senseless memes only understood by kids

it is really last time i ever informed you about any cheating, you should remove this topic too cuz you anyway don't care to ban anyone in VCMP as long as he's part of the "respected community"

Isn't funny how VU is protecting or promoting toxicity in community or i say in their own forum by their own members since they are not even deleting the post contain abusive content and giving verbal warns again and again when the same member of VU is abusing again and again.

If it had been by hunting he would have been banned by now.

I hope now no one comes and delete this post aswell with reason dont go off-topic.
point lol
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: vito3 on November 20, 2021, 01:57:50 pm
i linked those videos over to vito to show who is the real cheater ingame
You. Expected answer. What else your 'rape' vids could show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLBvH5_Ni7w

No-reload hacks? ah Its just your skills.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: James Bond on November 20, 2021, 02:04:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 20, 2021, 02:24:03 pm
i linked those videos over to vito to show who is the real cheater ingame
You. Expected answer. What else your 'rape' vids could show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLBvH5_Ni7w

No-reload hacks? ah Its just your skills.

now that is serious, CheAtInG iN ViTO FAggOT ServEr AMMo Hax
u break rules and use widescreen everywhere you play, I don't remember myself using "AMMO HACKS" apart from forgotten servers like yours

u refused to play koth just cuz admins threatened to ban you if you didn't remove widescreen lol
I'm surprised u didn't link this video just to show my aimlock or smth, it's good, cuz if I did, charley would again say I'm doing like pain
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: vito3 on November 20, 2021, 02:50:07 pm
How broken rules by me and my usage of widescreen everywhere I play, 'fat fuck rape' and so on logically linked with this topic?
You found bug with shotgun and reported it (good)
You call fulton cheater and expect ban to him because you found this bug with shotgun (irrational hopes)
You brings random videos with deathevades, rapes...
Where is video proves cheats of fulton instead?
Do you understand that you shit in your own topic by such way of discussion?

removed
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 20, 2021, 06:21:42 pm
How broken rules by me and my usage of widescreen everywhere I play, 'fat fuck rape' and so on logically linked with this topic?
You found bug with shotgun and reported it (good)
You call fulton cheater and expect ban to him because you found this bug with shotgun (irrational hopes)
You brings random videos with deathevades, rapes...
Where is video proves cheats of fulton instead?
Do you understand that you shit in your own topic by such way of discussion?

(https://i.ibb.co/mNWHJbZ/dacia-and-horse.jpg)
i have no hopes of banning fulton, VU staff will never do this, less likely to happen in VCMP, -5 chances, but at least players now know about it, I didn't want anything more than that, just players to know about fulton's shit

and about you? go devour a plate of food, stop talking shit about me and simply pray I'm not in server when you play I guess after what you did with WK and Tom..

removed, I don't even know what you want here?

RTV or VU staff will never ban their loyal players, just like they promoted spitfire to admin lmao, and that's cuz unlike me and GerZ, fulton doesn't record VU rapes or some shit, VU hates the fuck out of gerz cuz of this, likewise they hate me for the approximately same thing

don't believe me? well this is why they didnt ban fulton ..
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: vito3 on November 20, 2021, 06:35:54 pm
They did not banned fulton because nobody proved his cheating and you are removed.
They promoted spitfire to admin because he is useful to staff for mapping and anti-cheat.
You don't understand basic things of social because you removed. With your knowage of DM you could be useful person too but instead you poop in every sandbox then crying nobody wants to play with you there.

Strike one Vito - I'm also removing part of your previous post. Charley
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 21, 2021, 08:56:10 am
They did not banned fulton because nobody proved his cheating and you are removed.
They promoted spitfire to admin because he is useful to staff for mapping and anti-cheat.
You don't understand basic things of social because you removed. With your knowage of DM you could be useful person too but instead you poop in every sandbox then crying nobody wants to play with you there.
;D

they didn't ban fulton cuz they don't ban their lapdogs
they promoted spitfire cuz what to expect from PL staff?

looool "nobody wants to play with me", that's very sad, I'm hurt..
idk even what you're talking about, but for a removed you're actually keeping the fun'o'meter really high here

I don't want to be useful for these idiots, some of them don't even understand that GUI affects the gameplay, and they keep shitting on about this, nobody will ever have my DM knowledge or my skills, so far they don't know what hacks to come up with to say that I'm using.. I know cuz they did same with gerz (while currently he was using nothing else), the community wants fulton (their dog) to represent his clan in DM, they don't understand that he's a cheater? ok so fine, I don't even try to explain, just he should know not to encounter me anymore, it'd be humiliating to lose when you use lag tool and aurora (he knows it happen to him in the near past already..)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: vito3 on November 21, 2021, 09:12:39 am
Post removed, 30-day ban from posting - Charley
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Charley on November 21, 2021, 09:12:58 am
I've removed some of the grossness from this topic. No more. Last chance, for everyone.

it is really last time i ever informed you about any cheating, you should remove this topic too cuz you anyway don't care to ban anyone in VCMP as long as he's part of the "respected community"

I don't have the power to ban anyone anywhere, except for on this forum. My job is keeping this place orderly, nothing more, nothing less.

Isn't funny how VU is protecting or promoting toxicity in community or i say in their own forum by their own members since they are not even deleting the post contain abusive content and giving verbal warns again and again when the same member of VU is abusing again and again.

If it had been by hunting he would have been banned by now.

I hope now no one comes and delete this post aswell with reason dont go off-topic.

I believe this post was made with regard to Tic/Morfin's posts. I messaged him about them at the time, because I thought that having a chat with him would sort things out. Other VUs also had a chat with him. We saw him as a reasonable, usually calm person who was open to conversation and adaptation. Why didn't I remove the posts? Because I wanted Tic to be able to see them in the future, and reflect on how he acted previously.

If I thought the same of you guys as I did of him, I would have a conversation with you too, instead of just removing your posts. The truth is, I see how reasonable requests to act in a civil manner do not work with you. You've eached proven time and again that you are impervious to polite conflict resolution. So, the only option left is post edits, removals, and bans. Think I enjoy doing this? Nope. I do not. It's time consuming. I only do it in the hope that one day you will learn to behave like grown men.

Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FulToN_619 on November 21, 2021, 12:11:00 pm
They did not banned fulton because nobody proved his cheating and you are removed.
They promoted spitfire to admin because he is useful to staff for mapping and anti-cheat.
You don't understand basic things of social because you removed. With your knowage of DM you could be useful person too but instead you poop in every sandbox then crying nobody wants to play with you there.
;D

they didn't ban fulton cuz they don't ban their lapdogs
they promoted spitfire cuz what to expect from PL staff?

looool "nobody wants to play with me", that's very sad, I'm hurt..
idk even what you're talking about, but for a removed you're actually keeping the fun'o'meter really high here

I don't want to be useful for these idiots, some of them don't even understand that GUI affects the gameplay, and they keep shitting on about this, nobody will ever have my DM knowledge or my skills, so far they don't know what hacks to come up with to say that I'm using.. I know cuz they did same with gerz (while currently he was using nothing else), the community wants fulton (their dog) to represent his clan in DM, they don't understand that he's a cheater? ok so fine, I don't even try to explain, just he should know not to encounter me anymore, it'd be humiliating to lose when you use lag tool and aurora (he knows it happen to him in the near past already..)
(https://i.ibb.co/D9c7xQr/images-71.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: lol55 on November 21, 2021, 01:12:19 pm
Hey Charley, i got your message after posting that post and i understood that you guys having an conversation in private but about your few points i cant even think to agree with you either you are unaware about your clanmembers or you are acting to(i know you are inactive so not really).

Quote
We saw him as a reasonable, usually calm person who was open to conversation and adaptation.

Usually a calm person? He is one of the most toxic players in vcmp and involved in every toxic conversation in most of servers from year or so.

Quote
I see how reasonable requests to act in a civil manner do not work with you. You've eached proven time and again that you are impervious to polite conflict resolution. So, the only option left is post edits, removals, and bans. Think I enjoy doing this? Nope. I do not. It's time consuming. I only do it in the hope that one day you will learn to behave like grown men.
If he had done that for first time i would have considered your point but sorry mate your ignorance just amazed  me and it was not first time he is abusing people on this forum but 3rd or 4th time in previous few weeks and nothing was changing in his behavior and hence proved he never tried to reflect on and improve.

Thanks.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 22, 2021, 09:09:47 pm
disagree about tic, besides VU cares for its reputation, it's the reason behind the departure of Tic from VU clan as he told me, AND WHAT'S MORE? HE EVEN DIDN'T GIVE ME HIS ACCOUNT PASSWORD THIS TIME... he's certainly a better person than you'd imagine, although I'd not enjoy spamming this forum...

I even had a chat with him after he's asked me in past to help him leave MK in my style, and I've told him that he should think twice about joining any community clans

as for fulton,what's that lol, YOU are talking to me about stupid? idk, your entire stupidness was to fuck with fire in first place

@charley the ones who are responsible for bans will not do anything, some VUs indeed questioned his strange gameplay indeed (as it turns out from my latest research), but trust me, there's nothing to do about it.. he's free to cheat whenever, what's funny is that since the bug is fixed he cannot exploit it via those hacks anymore in certain servers, I think fulton now really hates even hearing of funvice server... STILL be careful with his lag tool
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: klein. on November 22, 2021, 09:20:38 pm

3) =TLA=FulToN_619

....

Fulton is a hacker. Agreed. Thanks for noticing. Have a nice day.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 23, 2021, 01:33:33 am
your only chance against a hacker who uses lag hack combined with that crouch animation fix, is to mix m60 with shotgun in such a way in which he takes most damage (fulton and the rest are very unskilled, which is why they can't combat such tactics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2e20IQMdc
'
we dont know your tactics? when you count your 10 kills with spawnkill and typekill and call it as 10-4XD
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Charley on November 23, 2021, 02:57:17 am
sorry mate your ignorance just amazed  me and it was not first time he is abusing people on this forum but 3rd or 4th time in previous few weeks and nothing was changing in his behavior and hence proved he never tried to reflect on and improve.

Prior to the recent behaviour, I heard a lot of good things about Tic, and his progress in our clan. Those few weeks were indeed littered with abusive comments, of which we were all aware and keeping an eye on. His decision not to change his behaviour ultimately led to him ending the journey he's been on with us for the last seven months.

You've gotta understand that we take the long view in VU. We know how hard some people work to get accepted into this clan, and we want to see them succeed once they're in. We therefore extend as much patience and support to our trainees and rookies as possible.

Sometimes this may appear to be a double standard, but clans by their nature treat members and non-members differently. We deal with issues regarding non-members externally, while we deal with issues regarding members internally.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: lol55 on November 23, 2021, 10:57:45 am
Quote
Sometimes this may appear to be a double standard, but clans by their nature treat members and non-members differently. We deal with issues regarding non-members externally, while we deal with issues regarding members internally.
Thank you for clarification, I understood and i must accept i was wrong since i considered this clan forum different than other clans forum where all community is treated in same manner but thats not the case here.

Thats all good for me since i wanted to point out double Double Standard thingy but already explained quite nicely by you.

Well, i thought rules should be followed thats why i haven't gave answer in same manner but when the standards are different i won't care about a ban from VU forum.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on November 23, 2021, 06:57:58 pm
wtf this suddenly changed from hacks to debating why some players aren't banned from posting in forums

YOU REALLY CARE THAT MUCH?
for me, anyone can insult me, post my real pics, edit it, what the fuck else, I don't even care, unless he does smth like pain (repeating the same broken record over 50 times and telling me i do exactly what he does, but blames me for his idiot behaviour, and disturbing a discussion with his useless posts)

i'm not saying this should be tolerated, but some of you care too much about it..
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on November 23, 2021, 07:41:14 pm
i'm not saying this should be tolerated, but some of you care too much about it..
what you expect then, idiot, this is VU forum, here they ban you if you insult but they applaud if a idiot make a meme in important topic h
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Charley on November 24, 2021, 03:05:58 am
wtf this suddenly changed from hacks to debating why some players aren't banned from posting in forums

YOU REALLY CARE THAT MUCH?

I was literally responding to comments you made. You initiated that change.

Jesus...

(https://c.stocksy.com/a/TNs200/z9/685687.jpg)
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Morfin on November 24, 2021, 03:36:24 pm
sorry mate your ignorance just amazed  me and it was not first time he is abusing people on this forum but 3rd or 4th time in previous few weeks and nothing was changing in his behavior and hence proved he never tried to reflect on and improve.

Prior to the recent behaviour, I heard a lot of good things about Tic, and his progress in our clan. Those few weeks were indeed littered with abusive comments, of which we were all aware and keeping an eye on. His decision not to change his behaviour ultimately led to him ending the journey he's been on with us for the last seven months.

You've gotta understand that we take the long view in VU. We know how hard some people work to get accepted into this clan, and we want to see them succeed once they're in. We therefore extend as much patience and support to our trainees and rookies as possible.

Sometimes this may appear to be a double standard, but clans by their nature treat members and non-members differently. We deal with issues regarding non-members externally, while we deal with issues regarding members internally.
exatcly, funny thing is that he calls me the worst person in vcmp but he has been busy provoking people everyday on the vu forum for about 6 years, I always tried to be nice to charley and my other clanmates. They warned me a million times but I always did my own thing and As he said(charley),my attitude and shit kid reactions brought my end to the clan. killerx(drama queen),I mean in short your aim has reached goal, I'm not vu anymore
p.s.:he will continue drama :kek:
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Inferno69 on November 25, 2021, 08:51:21 am
(https://i.ibb.co/HFrmkYn/Screenshot-20211125-134717.png) (https://ibb.co/M2Rq3pM)

Banned.
Thanks for reporting.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Nassim^ on November 25, 2021, 10:30:02 am
(https://i.ibb.co/HFrmkYn/Screenshot-20211125-134717.png) (https://ibb.co/M2Rq3pM)

Banned.
Thanks for reporting.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
the best anti cheat is = hunting
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Sk on November 25, 2021, 11:53:29 am
thanks guys after reading this topic I think I can make all sorts of hacks now just pm me the price starting 200$ per hack
never thought I could earn money with this game.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Shafin on November 28, 2021, 05:20:12 am
thanks guys after reading this topic I think I can make all sorts of hacks now just pm me the price starting 200$ per hack
never thought I could earn money with this game.

Here iz ma hack test on you
https://youtu.be/NehXIN0XrhQ
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Sk on December 01, 2021, 01:18:33 am

Here iz ma hack test on you
https://youtu.be/NehXIN0XrhQ
Sorry I only accepted payment in $ not in YouTube videos.
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Shafin on December 02, 2021, 01:04:05 am
WTF just happened lmao
https://youtu.be/NX7_HwNGBg4
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Sk on December 22, 2021, 07:17:32 pm
you are lucky my mouse was not working other wise you are so easy that I have to turn off my computer against you to make it a fair fight
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on January 26, 2022, 06:52:16 pm
i'll give this a bump with this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXFMUSTVgcM

just watch and see how fulton freely does what he likes with his crappy cheating, then later excuses to me when he lost "my mouse wasnt working"

0:12 see how he did double crouch shot, better yet he's the one blaming domek for some hacks
0:02 to 0:06 he fired 3 shots consecutively one after another


AND STILL sos shits on him and makes x3 and x4 in EC with fulton tryharding as much as possible...

who cares lol, VCMP staff are just incompetents or don't care about this situation
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: GoRcEE on January 27, 2022, 07:49:44 am
Ah yes fulton bought gpu to record his hacks. Biq logic br0
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: Hazard on January 27, 2022, 09:54:38 am
fulton is hacker, even axxo agreed
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: PaiN. on January 28, 2022, 02:08:58 am
Maybe masterdog and gorco the best are using that hack too, but its simply, admins can do same movements as fulton and verify if that shoot speed work in the server or the server take it as "ghost shot". if the server take it as ghost shot obviusly fulton was using a type of hacks and if the server take it as a real shoot then its normal, but maybe some admins will say " then we will modify the server so that all would make that fast shoots" but the big problem isnt the server, the problem here its if fulton was using a type of hacks or not, basically hunting catched fulton with this shit in the past and KoTH admins just changed the server, they didnt punished fulton....
extra evidence: min 9:47
https://youtu.be/nW8XxPs1Z5I
Title: Re: new cheating in VCMP
Post by: FuckTinG on January 28, 2022, 06:33:48 pm
Maybe masterdog and gorco the best are using that hack too, but its simply, admins can do same movements as fulton and verify if that shoot speed work in the server or the server take it as "ghost shot". if the server take it as ghost shot obviusly fulton was using a type of hacks and if the server take it as a real shoot then its normal, but maybe some admins will say " then we will modify the server so that all would make that fast shoots" but the big problem isnt the server, the problem here its if fulton was using a type of hacks or not, basically hunting catched fulton with this shit in the past and KoTH admins just changed the server, they didnt punished fulton....
extra evidence: min 9:47
https://youtu.be/nW8XxPs1Z5I

well I totally agree with him, fulton deserves getting shit on by other players, he was trying to use hacks just so he can call himself above other players, and even though this failed he still doesn't give up on the second try

apart from that, admins are bunch of dogs who act like they don't know what i'm talking about, fulton is being covered by admins constantly even though the evidence is crystal clear..

if i did this or anyone else from WK, then we'd certainly be banned the second someone noticed it lol

edit: they accepted No_Mercy back in VU after he's lied to them about the aimlock use, VU kicked him just to save their reputation from being stained
VU is VU, since 0.3 it's nothing changed at all, they'll work for their advantages, likewise with other idiot clans in vcmp MK TLA or whatever