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Title: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 27, 2016, 09:24:46 pm
ok you dumb motherfuckers I'll be very brief here:


TRC vs VU

6th / 7th of February

8 PM GMT

our main fighting roster:
=TRC=SheNN (average ping: 150)
=TRC=Tarkan (average ping: 40)
=TRC=Noori (average ping: 200)
=TRC=ZUBI (average ping: 200)
=TRC=morphine (average ping: 40)

offered play time: 6 bases, 3 each



waiting for your response with a confirmation of time, a list of bases and a list of players you're willing to sacrifice for dinner


ciao
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: ferrari32 on January 27, 2016, 09:46:42 pm
tl;dr
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Dr.Shawn on January 27, 2016, 10:33:06 pm
ad / ctf ?
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Howl on January 27, 2016, 10:34:56 pm
ctf
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: stormeus on January 27, 2016, 11:30:50 pm
=TRC=Noori (average ping: 200)
=TRC=ZUBI (average ping: 200)

christ

alright well here's our roster:
[VU]Stormeus
[VU]Stormeus
[VU]Stormeus
[VU]Stormeus
[VU]Thijn

bases:
- Pole Position
- Those random shacks in the middle of the sea out in viceport
- Vice City
- Big Smoke's house
- Island of Happiness

maximum 20fps

server is extremewhiteycity or else we're not showing up



Now that I've gotten being a brain donor out of the way, a couple of my own questions:
- What server are those pings based on?
- What server will this be hosted on?

I'm guessing 30fps min, 60fps max shouldn't be controversial, even if I don't like it personally.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 28, 2016, 07:12:12 am
the average pings were calculated based on MK's CTF server, and that will be our proposed venue.

seeing as all the players on our list (and the entire TRC roster anyway) are regular LW players, we're used to playing on 30 fps, and the option of 60 fps is marginal.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: ferrari32 on January 28, 2016, 07:21:00 am
the average pings were calculated based on MK's CTF server, and that will be our proposed venue.

seeing as all the players on our list (and the entire TRC roster anyway) are regular LW players, we're used to playing on 30 fps, and the option of 60 fps is marginal.
Since a lot of our members are used to playing on EC, 60 FPS should be optional :P
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: stormeus on January 28, 2016, 07:33:21 am
Frankly I'd push a 30fps min/max limit solely for the sake of consistency since this is a competitive match.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 28, 2016, 08:40:38 am
Frankly I'd push a 30fps min/max limit solely for the sake of consistency since this is a competitive match.

if it's specifically consistency we're talking about, then I'd suggest 30 fps max.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: stormeus on January 28, 2016, 09:02:13 am
Frankly I'd push a 30fps min/max limit solely for the sake of consistency since this is a competitive match.

if it's specifically consistency we're talking about, then I'd suggest 30 fps max.

Well when I said min/max I meant that we'd essentially just play at a consistent 30fps. Unless we're clear on that, then we could have a 25fps min. 20fps might be cutting it too low.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 28, 2016, 10:44:25 am
Frankly I'd push a 30fps min/max limit solely for the sake of consistency since this is a competitive match.

if it's specifically consistency we're talking about, then I'd suggest 30 fps max.

Well when I said min/max I meant that we'd essentially just play at a consistent 30fps. Unless we're clear on that, then we could have a 25fps min. 20fps might be cutting it too low.

what do you understand by playing at a consistent 30 fps? in my understanding, this would mean disabling the option to toggle the frame limiter on and off.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: stormeus on January 28, 2016, 02:42:58 pm
Minimum fps would be 30, maximum fps would be 30, not much room for framedropping.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 28, 2016, 05:47:38 pm
Minimum fps would be 30, maximum fps would be 30, not much room for framedropping.


not much room for desync, respectively.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Charley on January 28, 2016, 07:58:39 pm
Minimum fps would be 30, maximum fps would be 30, not much room for framedropping.


not much room for desync, respectively.

But a lot of room for people getting kicked cos of random cpu peaks in other processes. What about 28-32?

P.s. Morphine, theoretically we accept, but we're finding out the availability of our squad. It will depend on whether or not they're around.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 28, 2016, 09:21:10 pm
Minimum fps would be 30, maximum fps would be 30, not much room for framedropping.


not much room for desync, respectively.

But a lot of room for people getting kicked cos of random cpu peaks in other processes. What about 28-32?

P.s. Morphine, theoretically we accept, but we're finding out the availability of our squad. It will depend on whether or not they're around.

28-32 sounds more than fine to me. the point I'm trying to emphasize is that I want to avoid a situation where one player's frame rate can significantly differ from another's. in English - I want the frame limiter locked.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: stormeus on January 28, 2016, 09:22:39 pm
Well we're all in agreement on that then, good shit.

EDIT: Fight squad might have something else to say, what I mean is that we're all suggesting the same thing here.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: DarKFirE on January 29, 2016, 03:26:35 am
inb4

>10 fps
>profit
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Danish on January 29, 2016, 08:35:35 am
Good luck VU TRC
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: bhai on January 29, 2016, 09:52:04 am
eh, sorry for posting here. Why Tarkan is rating every post 'brain donor' here?  :angel:
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 29, 2016, 01:42:12 pm
eh, sorry for posting here. Why Tarkan is rating every post 'brain donor' here?  :angel:


don't see this as too much of a live issue right now and in all honesty, I've never taken these rating buttons seriously anyway.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Milko on January 31, 2016, 10:59:32 am
T good luck.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: QarZ on January 31, 2016, 12:55:36 pm
R

Good Luck  ;D ;D
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: EliteZ on January 31, 2016, 01:27:44 pm
Good luck both teams :)
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: EvilSpiriT on January 31, 2016, 01:57:03 pm
Good Luck Tarkan. :)
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on January 31, 2016, 03:16:23 pm
so are there any news from VU regarding our proposed timing?
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: ferrari32 on January 31, 2016, 06:11:06 pm
so are there any news from VU regarding our proposed timing?
yes
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Howl on January 31, 2016, 08:39:36 pm
so are there any news from VU regarding our proposed timing?
yes
NICE
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 01, 2016, 07:51:38 pm
Most of our members prefer A/D over CTF.
Would A/D work for you all, or do you insist on CTF?
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Foxtrot on February 01, 2016, 09:21:51 pm
Most of our members prefer A/D over CTF.
Would A/D work for you all, or do you insist on CTF?

It most definitely would  8)
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on February 01, 2016, 09:36:01 pm
Most of our members prefer A/D over CTF.
Would A/D work for you all, or do you insist on CTF?

It most definitely would  8)

we could give it a shot, to be honest, but that still brings up the specific question of choosing bases.

I, for instance, do not remember a single A/D base, so if there is a list you have, this is the time to publish it.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 01, 2016, 10:23:12 pm
I'll post the bases when I get home(ETA 8 hours), unless someone beats me to it.

Let's play them in this format:
Round 1: VU chooses base and defends it. TRC attacks.
Round 2: TRC chooses base and defends it. VU attacks.
Round 3: A random base is chosen - TRC defends, VU attacks.
Round 4: The same random base - VU defends, TRC attacks.

In case of a tie, we respect each other, keep our dignity and call it a day.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 02, 2016, 07:52:00 am
Base images (http://imgur.com/a/xZQpS)

Base listing in the same order:
Base Name: Demolition Man, Position: 124.0107,-339.4061,36.2330
Base Name: Construction Yard, Position: 345.0126,-276.5771,35.8813
Base Name: VCPD, Position: 386.1981,-506.6573,9.3983
Base Name: Bottom of Bridge, Position: -71.3566,83.0857,9.6832
Base Name: South Point Mall, Position: 54.5636,-937.9831,24.5730
Base Name: Carpark, Position: 308.9213,1161.0549,22.7474
Base Name: Phil's place, Position: -1066.7570,349.5940,11.2630
Base Name: Printer near taxis, Position: -988.8309,263.8112,8.8125
Base Name: Haitian Drugbase, Position: -1188.9954,74.7693,11.1281
Base Name: Biker Bar, Position: -597.7075,634.2572,11.6765
Base Name: Skumole Shack, Position: -562.0619,699.9868,20.7011
Base Name: Lower Office Building, Position: -568.9291,787.7806,22.8768
Base Name: Prawn Mansion, Position: 77.3401,1103.0327,32.6039
Base Name: Film Studios, Position: -91.2452,932.5880,10.8337
Base Name: WK Chariots Hotel, Position: 558.8398,17.6127,52.7511
Base Name: Ocean View Hotel, Position: 230.3209,-1264.7224,20.1123
Base Name: Carpark 2, Position: 114.3444,-1226.5134,24.5424
Base Name: Stripclub, Position: 63.2068,-1449.0851,10.5656
Base Name: Army, Position: -1697.9498,-182.1340,23.8613
Base Name: Airport, Position: -1440.1986,-883.8117,20.8979
Base Name: Airport Jetty, Position: -1192.3033,-1351.3890,11.4304
Base Name: Cherry Poppers, Position: -890.3447,-524.9782,29.2181
Base Name: Dock, Position: -663.1713,-1476.4097,13.8016
Base Name: Printworks, Position: -1111.4783,-182.0833,23.0943
Base Name: Junkyard, Position: -1262.6262,143.5957,26.5652
Base Name: Vercetti Mansion Back, Position: -378.6839,-597.8572,9.9623
Base Name: Robinas Cafe, Position: -1116.7987,-606.7387,26.0573
Base Name: Sailor Ship, Position: -694.9564,-1219.5049,16.3084
Base Name: Pharmacy, Position: -847.0101,-71.5965,11.5386
Base Name: Rooftops Near CherryPoppers, Position: -1046.6473,-516.2407,20.2994
Base Name: Sunshine Autos, Position: -975.7707,-830.8890,6.8009
Base Name: Far Ship, Position: -678.7174,-1631.8532,20.9614
Base Name: Beach Resort, Position: 623.9960,-267.4936,13.8289
Base Name: Starfish Mansion, Position: -274.7500,-300.4642,10.2977
Base Name: Malibu, Position: 464.6095,-54.3270,15.7037



I have striked out some bases that seem to be shitty or very easy to defend. New bases can be added easily, send me the coordinates of the CheckPoint if you want a base modified/added. If you consider any other base that is not balanced, let me know.

EDIT: The album is missing the screenshot of the second base: Base Name: Construction Yard, Position: 345.0126,-276.5771,35.8813. Find it here (http://imgur.com/fBN1naw)

Reminder to self - Add the Haitian Projects base from XAD.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: KaRaMaT^ on February 02, 2016, 01:56:55 pm
aXXo hardworker  8)
BTW,
Good luck both Clans
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 04, 2016, 10:08:10 pm
The clan war looks doubtful this weekend.

- We are missing 2 important members.(myself and Fercho)
- I need to test the AD scripts and host it.

Shall we push it on 13th/14th Feb?
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: ferrari32 on February 05, 2016, 09:03:12 am
The clan war looks doubtful this weekend.

- We are missing 2 important members.(myself and Fercho)
- I need to test the AD scripts and host it.

Shall we push it on 13th/14th Feb?
13th, 14th is Valentine's day ;p
Anyways, our squad will look something like this

Fercho
aXXo
Freak
Veteran
Myself/Dronz

Substitutes: Angela, Flash, GangstaRas, Shawn, maybe Thijn
As we have quite a roster, you can expect us to make a lot of subs, as I'd like to see all of our available members do their best ;P
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: MaddyV on February 05, 2016, 12:36:28 pm
Our main roster.

morphine
Howl
ZUBI
Noori &
Tarkan/elpyro

Subs

GRAND
John 8)
Kyzo
Honor
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Milko on February 05, 2016, 03:54:09 pm
Quote from: ferrari32
Anyways, our squad will look something like this

Fercho

trc is rekted paly vcmo 2k16 on 12 fps yes

yes
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on February 06, 2016, 09:51:19 am
the 14th of February is problematic for me, as I've got an event to attend. the 13th is more or less acceptable.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Bryce on February 07, 2016, 11:19:06 am
the 14th of February is problematic for me, as I've got an event to attend. the 13th is more or less acceptable.
very good answer
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 10, 2016, 06:24:13 pm
13th is not possible for a few of our members(Vet and Fer).
Push to next weekend?  :(

Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 10, 2016, 08:30:25 pm
too much pushing
This is why I am reluctant to host events containing limited amount of players.
In 5v5, both clans try to get their best squads. This makes scheduling hard since we are depending on the availability of 10 specific individuals.

I don't have any alternative solution other than pushing it further. What do you suggest?
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on February 15, 2016, 09:37:42 am
this'll be pushed further forever, but whatever

what is your next proposed date
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Klaus on February 16, 2016, 01:53:33 am
I don't have any alternative solution other than pushing it further. What do you suggest?
Organisation? What I don't understand is that as far as I know this isn't a competitive match and more a 'friendly'. So why not use it to try out your B team instead of waiting on inactives? EAF played with a bunch of VU's just the other day; easily enough to have had a game. This is why I think sometimes its better to have a third party to just schedule the fight and whoever turns up plays. You can't make it? That's what substitutes are for. Anyhow, I hope you all manage to sort things out between yourselves before TRC's history repeats itself (http://saracens.top-board.com/t940-trc-vs-eaf-clan-war-xad-server). Would enjoy watching the game myself.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 16, 2016, 01:43:01 pm
http://doodle.com/poll/2p4iwnz8edw5m7yh

All TRC and VU members select their availability on the above link.
Please use your actual ingame nicks.

If we are not able to reach a consensus before the end of this week(Sunday), the server host(Drake) would decide a time and we all need to show up on that schedule.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Jokah on February 16, 2016, 03:17:22 pm
Discuss your bases among each other and post them here, we're discussing.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on February 16, 2016, 10:04:11 pm
with due consideration, I've decided to call this challenge off.

I'm not going to bother elaborating on the nature of my decision, but I'll tell you this - there is absolutely no sense of sportsmanship between the two of our sides, and if we can't handle each other on a conversational basis, I'm 300% confident we won't be able to soberly handle each other on a competitive basis.

no further comments necessary.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: GangstaRas on February 16, 2016, 11:38:51 pm
Hmm, let me add my lil two cents here and hopefully you may reconsider. I've been watching this for a good while and I've been quite excited to carry forth this challenge you've proposed. But the exercise of patience due to the availability of a favoured setup is killing everyone here. We really wish not to lose but dammit I love a challenge and I want to kick some ass (even if my ass gets handed to me instead). I can't allow this termination.

aXXo has setup a checklist to assess the availability of our members and yours. If we were to do this long overdue match as soon as possible, we have at least 6 players myself included ready for Thursday 17 GMT. Is it possible that we can get this done then with whoever you guys have aboard and available?

My apologies Morphine for all the hell we've caused
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: morphine on February 17, 2016, 12:02:46 am
-

after all the baseless loudmouthing I've witnessed in my direction from your clanmates today, I'm quite confused as to how to even respond to your post. I have to admit it is quite tranquilizing to witness a voice of reason in VU once in a while.

It is not in my nature to go back on my decisions, but at the same time I feel quite ashamed that I've gone as far as make a fuss out of this. I'm not made of steel and I too erupt once in a while. let's just say I'll be looking forward to this event with much less motivation than I had initially invested.

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But the exercise of patience due to the availability of a favoured setup is killing everyone here.

as sir Klaus has stated above, the nature of this match leans more toward friendly than competitive, and I personally do not fundamentally look at it as an indicator of skill, but rather nothing more than an organized match between two teams. I'm not desperate for reputation in this specific situation, because for one, neither I, nor the rest of my team need it.

Thursday (the 18th of February) and most probably the following day are a no-no for me, as I will be officially celebrating my 20th birthday on Thursday and most likely will extend the celebrations to Friday. the most probable, but not guaranteed dates would be the days following Friday, being Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: GangstaRas on February 17, 2016, 12:29:28 am
the most probable, but not guaranteed dates would be the days following Friday, being Saturday and Sunday.

Perfect, although not guaranteed, I'll take it, we've been discussing that the weekend is also most probable for us. As I agree with Klaus myself, personally I'm not fussy about which bases we play, we could just have a random medley of bases to play through and the best of 7 wins but I guess an agreement was erected beforehand where that is concerned (could reconsider for this also). In any case, posting our bases really shouldn't take more than tomorrow let alone 3 weeks
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: aXXo on February 17, 2016, 12:31:09 am
Ok, decision time.

VU and TRC will be playing A/D:
When?
Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
17 GMT onwards each day, until we get bored and lose track of scores.

How?
Who ever is available would play.
We will try to balance the match as 5v5, but if one of the clans has extra members, they would be moved to the other team to accommodate a 6v6 or 3v3, whatever.

Bases
AD admins launch bases like flipping burgwers. Requests allowed.

Happy Birthday Morphine
On Thursday, everyone would imposter Morphine and put creative tags and nickname enhancements around his nick. Since the server has no accounts system, no-one would know who the fuck is who. We certainly won't be missing Morphine.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: WiLsOn on February 18, 2016, 10:52:35 pm
6-5 to VU after doing a tie breaker, VU won, great game by TRC hopefully we can do more in future.  :)
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: TzUnam on February 18, 2016, 11:18:15 pm
Nice job in group, teammates.

although, I wasn't from the beginning. was incredible when we reached the same score with TRC, and then in the last round we won.
Title: Re: TRC vs VU
Post by: Milko on February 19, 2016, 12:06:35 am
Predicted.

bingo, bango, bongo, bish, bash, bosh

yes