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This is VU forum app section not Tinder.

Anyway, Gorcee what qualities do you see in Kat here from the time you've spent with her ingame that made you say she's a great fix in the VU scheme? Asking this since, she mentioned you on her app. Yet she does know other member that will soon pass on their thoughts.

Kat, how are you managing DM servers since your switch? How active are you ingame/forum wise?

Neutral for now.

One thing I like is that you answer each an everyone of our concerns. Honesty is always key, we take pride of that here, hope you remain on that good path. You came in a bit early, but would love to give you a chance to see what you are worth. Trainee

Thank you for your honesty, this is something I really appreciate though im going to vote No. Not because of your past, but I believe before voting positively you should learn a bit how we do things, how we try to behave/play etc... I encourage you not to be shy to ask for VU help ingame my fellow mates would always be down to help and that report will eventually head back here.

Like I said in my 'making a clan' guide, I believe going for big or even medium fish players is a strategy that's very unlikely to pay off. It's only worked well for a tiny number of clans, and even then, it wasn't really sustainable (see KFJ, TRC, SS).

This^^. It summarizes big part of VU success throughout the years, adding exceptional leadership and constant change in clan operational systems. Years back when this game was my go to and I had time to invest in it, I had that ideology of building a clan of nobodies, people like you and me that where very coachable and eventually become well-named players in the game. I was able to accomplish that with UB/VK back in the day but unfortunately time catches us all and at the time me and my co-owner were lacking the needed leadership qualities to keep our players. Most of them were getting recruited or moving to big clan names and its fine. It all came to an end.

VU shared this same exact vision as I had and it hasn't changed since, I brought some players along and we started hustling and climbing from day one. I have a little over a decade in VU and a bit more in VCMP and to be truthful the name is well suited cause the underdog mentality/the hustle/ the climb has never stopped since we started back then. Here, and as real life progressed got to learn leadership skills needed. As Morphine said, it takes TIME. Pushing through the bullshit and build a family like environment.

This is why people look for VU and it will always be this same exact quality why players will keep looking at VU throughout the years. Most of the members here started from scratch now are well known names that support the community with events, scripting, servers etc... Sometimes people just need to be given a chance. I don't necessarily agree with Doomsday post but respect it, it gave us a chance to explain the reason behind the success that is no way near built in a blink of an eye.

Long after VCMP doesn't exist and people sit around remembering this game they will talk about VU and its contribution to big part of the game success.

I'm glad to be part of the greatest VCMP family(not clan) that was ever created.(you may or may not agree with me with this and its fine, its just what I believe history has proven so far.)

I also encourage people if they have the time to emulate the model, if it doesnt work for many other reasons you will seriously have friends that will last after this is over.

I do not wish to see any new PL members in my clan, it is a threat to our privacy.
Now before you all come and jump on me with PL- VU Relation again saying that there are a lot of VUs who are in PL, well the thing is that those members have our trust since long time and they are always there for the clan first.
I have no reason to trust you since you clearly believe that your *gang* is over your clan, that being the difference between you and other VU-PL members.
Clearly my vote will be no every time you apply with the same mentality.

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also is the application section visible to VCCNR players only ?

I think he is against PL and clans to be exact or any of that dual-gang stuff.

Good luck in whatever you do Wilson. It was great having you around for so long! Stay in touch mate.

Kiki, this application seems actually very dull...

What has changed? What have you done differently that made you comeback here and apply? What about the bridges you had to build? I remember the last post when denying your previous app i briefly explained most of what people where saying. Why not open your application answering those questions? Start off there, and maybe this can turn into something different from the previous applications.

If we're voting just for the fact of adding a number to a poll without proper information, we should really look into our judgement call guys.