Moving on, Charley tells you about the said statistic, your reply to him is ''there's more women so of course I mean women'' and ''men themselves are guilty for the fact they're abused, because they see women as weak.
Now, I hate to tell you, but from my point of view, you tend to overgeneralize men, which is quite a passive aggresive behavior, and contributes to the stigma you're pointing out yourself.
I do not condemn men who suffer abuse from women. They are victims as well as women who suffer abuse from men. I just pointed out as an additional detail, that they're victims of an oppression culture stablished by our gender, they are judged and humiliated by other men and women when they tell how they are abused, and that's purely because we live in a culture where women are considered weak. But if a woman does hit a man, that does not turn her into an innocent person and turns chauvinist culture into the only responsible agent. She is as violent as this culture. My intention was not to contribute to that stigma. We can discuss for hours if I do contribute to it or not (because of the importance that I give to numbers), but I can tell you that I do not deny that abuse from women to men exist. It does. I did not mean my generalization as an indirect statement of denial towards this fact.
Let's go deeper into the subject. With the replies you've made, I'm guessing you're trying to address rednecks who are masogynists, and generally consider themselves manly for that. Ok, great. What about male homosexuals? What about drag queens? What about simple lads who are just more feminine than most? What about men with social anxiety, what about men who are just afraid to speak up?
All of the latter have probably at some point lived through gender-based harrasment, but to you these guys aren't MEN, to you they're exceptions I guess. And then you speak about phone lines for gender-related violence for WOMEN. They are not for women, that is only your prejudice speaking. They are for ALL victims of domestic abuse, including MEN AND WOMEN. And for a good reason.
Yes, I understand what you say and I agree on the point of male homosexuals, drag queens and guys who are more feminine suffering abuse. The reason because I didn't address them either is for the fact of different considerations, opinions and perspectives of
the kind of abuse that they suffer. People generally tend to agroup these into the gender-based violence, and other separe them and categorise them differently. I tend to go for the second option, and this is something that we can also debate for hours. The fundamentation of this is that, while they are part of an abusive behavior derivated from a chauvinist society as well as the cases we've been telling, they do not suffer abuse because of them being
a particular gender: men or women, instead, because of how they are as
persons particularly.
About the phone lines, atleast in my country, every official page says it attends to
women victims of gender-based violence. This is not a prejudice of mine, I based what I posted on this:
Gobierno de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires
La Línea 144 brinda atención telefónica especializada a mujeres víctimas de violencia de género durante las 24 horas, los 365 días del año. Es anónima, gratuita y nacional.
Ministry of Women, Gender and Diversity - República Argentina
Trabajamos por los derechos de las mujeres y diversidades, frente a toda forma de desigualdad y violencia, para construir una sociedad más justa con todos, todas y todes.
Llamá al 144
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Brindamos atención, asesoramiento y contención para situaciones de violencias por motivos de género, las 24 horas, de manera gratuita y en todo el país.
Now, to shed you of your hate talk directed towards me and the simple observation that I've made, I strive for equality, which is what most modern and intelligent individuals do. It is what thousands of years of evolution brought us to finally realize, that society cannot function as a patriarchy nor matriarchy, we strive for freedom of individuals, freedom means equality. And until young people like you and me both share the same opinion, and take incidents objectively and individually, that mission will never be accomplished.
I strive for freedom as well, considering individual freedom of a person above everything, and society cannot function as a patriarchy nor matriarchy, OK with that. I don't really know if we do, but we could differ on how actions should be done, what is the role of men in this long way going on the pursue of freedom, and about what is the best way to actually remove male chauvinism from society. Everybody nowadays say "these crazy feminist girls are fucking us all over the world", and blame women for their movements and agrupations with fierceness and it's an non-ending battle, not accepting for one second that we have done bad in the past. That is why I believe a feminism movement
is needed in order to equal the balance. I am not part of it. I will never be part of it because I am a MAN too, but I consider that we should shut the fuck up and listen to them a little more because our gender
has committed errors in the past (and some men keep doing), and stop treating them like bitches because of 'hating' men, instead, understand the reasons of that hate, and work together in order to accomplish what we both want: freedom.
Of course, while I consider neccessary the needing of a feminist movement and the needing of understanding their hate in order to solve it, I do not believe that what you posted on the example above was right. Of course not. It was completely out of mind that people did not react. That is not what should happen. The hate turning into violence. And then a new cycle continuing for another 2000 years...