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Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 05, 2018, 08:59:42 pm

Title: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 05, 2018, 08:59:42 pm
i'm stuck in between something I can't judge if it's hack or lag or something else, I require your comments those who are part of this community from a very long time , share your thoughts.
as I always had hard time hitting them and they warp on my screen like they only have 512 kbps connection which is shared with some random guys who keeps on browsing adult website for pleasure ,but then if I look at their ping and their fps it only shows me good and stable internet connection symptoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHzDNH051A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHzDNH051A)
Another video provided by Saim as a reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8SBUNg33k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8SBUNg33k)

another useful reference which is game speed and reaction time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU7oo6mFk7Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU7oo6mFk7Q)

if you have anything as useful as the videos mentioned here, consider posting the link and if I find them useful i'll add them up here for a clear view
Title: Re: Debate-is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Warhol on July 05, 2018, 09:28:45 pm
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 06:26:04 am
i'm stuck in between something I can't judge if it's hack or lag or something else, I require your comments those who are part of this community from a very long time , share your thoughts.
as I always had hard time hitting them and they warp on my screen like they only have 512 kbps connection which is shared with some random guys who keeps on browsing adult website for pleasure ,but then if I look at their ping and their fps it only shows me good and stable internet connection symptoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHzDNH051A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHzDNH051A)

How is it possible that you call Kody a f1 or lag hack although you killed him? You really need a mental doctor m8.
If you think we use low pcs, check your 30fps video and this one https://youtu.be/Tux3tKVxAy8 , https://youtu.be/DiaCoA8H8
I know it's useless to talk with you but i would like that you grow up little and stop crying either go and play GTA VC single player better for you and don't show us your tears.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: NeuTroN on July 06, 2018, 07:34:55 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4TWi0W4VGw
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: RajPut on July 06, 2018, 08:08:00 am
I think this is a Laggy Tag. :P Mean "Lag" word got associated with MDs.

Trust me if you use MD tag for a day, you will be called lagger more than ever.  :-X
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: WiLsOn on July 06, 2018, 08:15:54 am
Oh boy, I can't wait for DU vs MD in league. ::)
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: GoRcEE on July 06, 2018, 08:56:07 am
When 4 homies connect to a server from different PCs with 2mbps stable connection, makes it no more stable.
That's it.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 06, 2018, 09:57:27 am
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
Warhole your theory in general is actually wrong, I believe they own PC which run Vice City fine and their internet connection is stable too which is shown in their own videos, now assuming the theory of good PC and stable internet connection how can this lag happen?
i'm stuck in between something I can't judge if it's hack or lag or something else, I require your comments those who are part of this community from a very long time , share your thoughts.
as I always had hard time hitting them and they warp on my screen like they only have 512 kbps connection which is shared with some random guys who keeps on browsing adult website for pleasure ,but then if I look at their ping and their fps it only shows me good and stable internet connection symptoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHzDNH051A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHzDNH051A)

How is it possible that you call Kody a f1 or lag hack although you killed him? You really need a mental doctor m8.
If you think we use low pcs, check your 30fps video and this one https://youtu.be/Tux3tKVxAy8 , https://youtu.be/DiaCoA8H8
I know it's useless to talk with you but i would like that you grow up little and stop crying either go and play GTA VC single player better for you and don't show us your tears.

I ain't calling anyone hacker or lagger, you could've said that if I reported them with the video somewhere but I did not, I want to know the actual reason behind this lag which makes you unhittable and allows you an advantage over others.
and that video you provided i find it irrelevant to the topic , if you want to create a video war of skills and rampage, create another topic i'll help you in managing it by adding contents to it.
I've edited the video for a slow motion preview there is nothing with the frame cap. but yeah I do have recorded the video on 30 fps because maybe you don't know but fraps limits your fps to 30 and uses rest of the fps for recording purpose, not my fault tho, my video in general is 13-14 minute video if we remove the parts which I added just for entertainment purpose , try to look at the whole video each second of it, and then give me a single reason to believe your theory considering their PC is high performance gaming war machines and their internet is as best as NASA'S.
here i'll help you out
Take a look at this scenario 
 2:58 (https://youtu.be/TcHzDNH051A?t=178)
Here is another useful part for you , in the above scene we can't call this lag because I knocked him down on the surface my first shot knocked him down, and then I took my second shot on his body while he is on the ground and after my second his HP refills, considering his HP when I knocked him down and his HP after the add-on before my 3rd shot by server which is an add-on in EC server nothing new.
3:29 (https://youtu.be/TcHzDNH051A?t=209)
before you say anything else here is the same case but this time instead of kody it's me who's on the ground but who oh why I can't survive the same situation over here consider my starting HP, and refill add-on too.
 14:40 (https://youtu.be/TcHzDNH051A?t=880)
in this certain part same thing happened again but this time it wasn't kody instead it was someone called lamberjack or whatever his nickname is , I shot him with spaz and yet i landed my second spaz bullet on him but it did not had any effect not even a tiny bit.
10:41 (https://youtu.be/TcHzDNH051A?t=641)
here is another Clip of Kody where i knocked him down yet again i somehow managed to knock him down, but look closely my second bullet doesn't even has an effect on him, the third one did but why the second did not worked ?
5:15 (https://youtu.be/TcHzDNH051A?t=315)
zkq i never had any issues regarding you since you were fine to me which i think is the same case as me in terms of you.
but for once leave everything aside take a look at the whole clip and give me something to disprove this theory, try to be fair listen to both sides before choosing where you would want to defend
i can also say that you need a doctor even whole community gets my point but yet still even looking at it with your bare eyes you are trying to avoid it .
i'm here to discuss so we could go further with this lag/warp or whatever the hell it is .
@NeuTroN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4TWi0W4VGw
here is a side by side Comparison of both clips
ReX's one 2:20 (https://youtu.be/m4TWi0W4VGw?t=140) this one is mine 0:47 (https://youtu.be/TcHzDNH051A?t=47)
by looking at your clip i can see that your ping spiked just 2 times and when it did spiked you tried to spam F5 .
moral of the story is and the question still remains un answered what this actually is, since they themselves just disproved the theory of lag by providing a video clip.

I think this is a Laggy Tag. :P Mean "Lag" word got associated with MDs.

Trust me if you use MD tag for a day, you will be called lagger more than ever.  :-X
zkq does not have the lag which we see from them, in common the players without this awkward behavior or lag i'll say are Baba_Sain Zkq and Broly, but in my upper quote you can clearly see they debunked the statement of lag by providing a video clip.

Oh boy, I can't wait for DU vs MD in league. ::)
ah Wilson sad playing against them doesn't interests me in any manner i feel bored, i feel like i'm wasting my time on someone, also you should be interested in Raja jee VS Raja jee . i won't spoil the fun but just wait for it to happen.






 


 
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Tim1997 on July 06, 2018, 10:03:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MLtUdMnYVw&feature=youtu.be

MDs are clean they say that its their lag and with this lag who can make this kind of precise head shots see the video above and is that a legit kill ?  aim snapped from meters to my head only one bullet smashed my head and then the aim goes back.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 10:24:52 am
FFB trainer aka artificial lag trainer.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: BeY3K^ on July 06, 2018, 10:45:45 am
I'm also from Pakistan and PTCL user myself.I used PTCL before , currently i'm using StormFiber. i do not lag like them nor i warp the way they do, i believe we all should gather evidence to tackle this situation since the video creates a point on it's own, if we look at it the certain way i believe the lag which Darkwolf shares on some extend is acceptable because he is using the same internet connection which their father use for their computer course training center . but Why we see the same lag from their cousin brother called [TSS]Birdman. and ReX a few others i won't mention more names cause that might lead to a bigger argument just dropping my points on this thread . calm your tits
Now I'm Changed my Net into Storm Fiber
https://youtu.be/60YLzJgOX4o (https://youtu.be/60YLzJgOX4o)
     

                      WTF
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: GangstaRas on July 06, 2018, 01:33:57 pm
When I brought stormeus's jitter check system back on the scene as an awareness, it started with the hacker [AFt]We3da^. Video here:

https://youtu.be/5c1SwRY5CL4

It was subtle, but his ping did change in these moments, from like 80s to 130s exactly at the moment he runs and behaves weirdly. That's what led to jitter check today in Vice War and my advising on its implementation for CTF and EAD. EAD tried but still need to re-assess the kicking aspect and NewK's interest is in developing 0.5 only so 0.4 won't be updated with it.

But I have another video to give you guys a practical perspective as to why it's important. I recorded this May 17th, just watch the movement's of his ping:

https://youtu.be/vDN_LX6r9F8

Does everyone understand why it's necessary to check jitter? He's there playing just fine while poor Cola_Sky coming back from 2, 3 years inactivity trying to kill him. Ping limit on EAD is 300 to 400, depending on how we set it the day. It's nowhere near 800 but it didn't kick in because it's an averaging system every server uses to check ping.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 06, 2018, 03:42:23 pm
Back in the day (0.3 times) there was a clan named NxS and they used to set their FPS limit to 25, nowadays people are more creative and know how to mess with their pings, so nothing said here can be believed.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Saim on July 06, 2018, 04:01:10 pm
Here is another example of their F1 hack i do agree on the thing devil posted here it's an public awareness the thing is simple they are doing something under there which they were covering with their lag but i think this is the best place to post here.
in this video i was using spaz inside mansion and i knocked him  down but upon reaching him i shot multiple times on his body with my spaz but yet again no effect as per described in Devil's video.
this matter should be considered and looked upon because it's an disadvantage to fair players and i believe if we go further we will find more relevant clips .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8SBUNg33k&index=1&list=UUFCH0Utot3b84EWKB-gs8mg

Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: SMD on July 06, 2018, 04:43:31 pm
I don't know about others but ye i am 100% sure about kody he is using something. I also recorded him many times whenever you knock him down he won't take damage like he is using F1 or some other shitty 3rd party  tools(I will check for those videos i am not sure becuz reinstalled windows many times).
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 04:50:38 pm
Who is not happy, go play gta vc singel player and don't show tears, otherwise. This topic does not show anything except how much you are ass burned. With all respect to these players. But we are tired from these terms all the time from ppl who are not able to fight us and used to report us with a 29fps video with fram limiter off with a wooden GPU.

Many laggots in the game and you only talk about us, what about DmC? They all play with same network but you don't do a shit, you only attack my clan because they have ability to fight players even with their some lag which is normal for a paki player.

Peace after all i am not here to cause a fight, just to tell you again that you need to grow up and don't show any retardness because believe me, we are laughing on this topic and even not calculating it.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: aXXo on July 06, 2018, 06:06:30 pm
Your own ping also matters a lot. Amount of lead aim required is the sum of your and your opponent's ping. It is quite ridiculous that majority of player base is in Asia, yet we play on European hosted servers. Rarely any other multiplayer game allows players with more than 100 ping.

The video looks like a typical cumulative 600 ping fight, judging by how long you survived without cover, with 5 people shooting at you.

Higher ping causes more desyncs than anyone can anticipate. Perhaps, Player A punched Player B in Player C's screen 500ms ago, so he was desynced and did not see shots. Add people playing on inconsistent FPS and you have an administrating nightmare.

The best solution is to have locally hosted server catering to players in separate continents.

Or, play dota.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 06:17:07 pm
@ devil jin

The first moment you mentioned 02.58 of your video, there is no lag, just check your sick aim before talking..

I don't need to explain every moment for you to believe that we don't use any illegal ''lag hacks'' , my clan mates are not the only ppl who have a '' lag'' but you never talk about others, you only talk about us. I dunno why you are fighting us but i really don't care

For the forum staffs, isn't this a flame war? Shouldn't you lock the topic?
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: MAD_K!LL3R on July 06, 2018, 06:41:38 pm
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just logged in to remind you "Silence is a Best reply to a Fool (seems like this words should be replaced with "Bunch of Fools" here)
so Zkq Read, Laugh, and Enjoy Silenlty.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 06, 2018, 07:18:54 pm
Here is another example of their F1 hack i do agree on the thing devil posted here it's an public awareness the thing is simple they are doing something under there which they were covering with their lag but i think this is the best place to post here.
in this video i was using spaz inside mansion and i knocked him  down but upon reaching him i shot multiple times on his body with my spaz but yet again no effect as per described in Devil's video.
this matter should be considered and looked upon because it's an disadvantage to fair players and i believe if we go further we will find more relevant clips .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8SBUNg33k&index=1&list=UUFCH0Utot3b84EWKB-gs8mg


@Saim i'll add your video in the start of the topic as a reference .

Who is not happy, go play gta vc singel player and don't show tears, otherwise. This topic does not show anything except how much you are ass burned. With all respect to these players. But we are tired from these terms all the time from ppl who are not able to fight us and used to report us with a 29fps video with fram limiter off with a wooden GPU.

Many laggots in the game and you only talk about us, what about DmC? They all play with same network but you don't do a shit, you only attack my clan because they have ability to fight players even with their some lag which is normal for a paki player.

Peace after all i am not here to cause a fight, just to tell you again that you need to grow up and don't show any retardness because believe me, we are laughing on this topic and even not calculating it.
@zkq did I ever mentioned or called you a lagger or anything like that?
the funniest part is that your using a term called players from Pakistan lag and yet not believing on the actual thing which I've shown you in the video I mean why aren't you talking or discussing about something?
I only see your replies including "go play vc single player" .
maybe you did not read my reply before, i'm gonna repeat it for you, you can record at 60 fps no matter what GPU you own or whatever PC you use, but why do I even care to describe.
The actuality is that everything is in front of your eyes yet still you are defending, i'm also from Pakistan I know more about latency lag than you if I be precise about you let me explain you what actually happens if your ping spikes more than normal.
Player A has 200+ ping and player B has 350+ ping now here is when all magic starts player A can see the lag pretty easily on player B and so do player B , player B can't shoot player A because the lag  or ping spikes effects both players you can't judge the location of player A , but let's just assume for a second what your saying is truth , it is all caused by ping shitty internet connection but does that lag also applies when you knock down a player with 350+ ping would he become unhittable while he is down?
I really miss old server administrators .
@zkq what about the rest of the video, take a look at it be a human being for once and after you are done watching just explain me the points which I've mentioned in my previous comment.
are you from Pakistan? our internets are fine, i'm using the lowest internet speed I believe here which is 2mbps but yet still no one complains about me , I also lag when other devices connect to my 2mbps connection my ping spikes to 400-500 and in some cases 11k too sometimes  but If I disconnect all the connected devices it will get restored to it's normal ping.
this isn't really about lag, I donno if you have watched my previous post where I pin pointed exact timing of all those incidents in the video but yet still you are complaining with a negative mind instead of asking your own clan mates what's the matter . there is nothing wrong with this topic as long as you don't react in that way, try to interact with us a little more so we can find the real reason behind this instead of bashing on everyone, I've seen some more evidence regarding these scenarios which have to be resolved, and please don't argument on skills, I don't want irrelevant posts here if you want brief explanation regarding any subject provided in this topic feel free to PM me.
i'm gonna post another video try to explain that one too.

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just logged in to remind you "Silence is a Best reply to a Fool (seems like this words should be replaced with "Bunch of Fools" here)
so Zkq Read, Laugh, and Enjoy Silenlty.
this is irrelevant post perhaps

Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: DarK_WolF on July 06, 2018, 07:30:20 pm
Haters gonna hate we gonna potate, Lock topic  O0
about devil Jin's video dont make me post his ping he plays on simple potato internet device and warps like hell and makes video to show that others are lagging while in real he is the lagger so everyone else lags for him  ^-^
#peace
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 07:36:27 pm
This is my last reply in this topic, and i would like to tell you that we don't accept cheaters who ever they are. We already kicked many players for hacks and will always keep on that. The way you say lag hack, it's like when you guys called us aimlockers, but when Darkwolf posted videos of your fights, you went on a new way to say that we use lag hacks.
I know you didn't mention me, but you are fighting my clan so it's my job to know why you do that.
At the end , i would like to tell you that whenever we catch someone using tools/hacks, we will kick him and report him too, that's a guarantee from me. If you want, i will record some shots and i will make a topic on this forum who accepts the flame wars only when we are concerned, i will record some shots and you will see how lagger is your team and you will feel yourself as a dumbed toy. That's all what i have, talk or not i won't reply on this topic as it does not have any proof
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 06, 2018, 08:06:03 pm
I think unclemajboor lags harder than sevrin
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: BeY3K^ on July 06, 2018, 08:13:23 pm
The purpose of this video is this that we just want to show you guys that you are doing or using something wrong, we aren't fools wasting our time on uploading and posting the videos and stuff.
We only react when we feel there's something wrong.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 08:19:15 pm
This is my last reply in this topic, and i would like to tell you that we don't accept cheaters who ever they are. We already kicked many players for hacks and will always keep on that.
You accepted Rex aka Neutron who has been banned at least 3 times for speed gear.
You accepted Zaim who has been banned for aimlock.
You accepted and still have Stitu within your ranks who has been banned for hacking.
Your claims are irrelevant.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ZAiM on July 06, 2018, 08:31:56 pm
This is my last reply in this topic, and i would like to tell you that we don't accept cheaters who ever they are. We already kicked many players for hacks and will always keep on that.
You accepted Rex aka Neutron who has been banned at least 3 times for speed gear.
You accepted Zaim who has been banned for aimlock.
You accepted and still have Stitu within your ranks who has been banned for hacking.
Your claims are irrelevant.
You accepted Zaim who has been banned for aimlock.

REALLY NIGGA? i am not accepted in MD , http://md.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=277.0#forum even my app is denied. and you are talking about that i used aimlock? just lmao , the last time i used aimlock was 5 months ago , but unfortunately , people like you care about past , can't even look to the future  , 5 months later , see how i rape your asses without aimlock , Any shitty fucking kid will say that i am still using or report me , WILL GIVE THE EVIDENCE IN ASS


PS:Anyone get Headshot ingame people call him aimlock , aimlock made you think that all people that make headshots = aimlock , what a shitty retarded Logic.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 06, 2018, 08:51:27 pm
Once a cheater always a cheater. Not using aimlock anymore? Ok, we know that you're using something else, soon enough you're gonna get busted using that too.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Vedder on July 06, 2018, 08:53:51 pm
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If you are denied in a clan like MD then it's reasonable to think that you are a single-neuron monkey, with a poverty pc and a pathetic and retarded life. Keep that on mind before insulting Brian.

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REALLY NIGGA?

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WILL GIVE THE EVIDENCE IN ASS

This is how you act when somebody talks about you. Seriously i wouldn't be surprised if you are boarding school in a special school.

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the last time i used aimlock was 5 months ago , but unfortunately , people like you care about past , can't even look to the future  , 5 months later , see how i rape your asses without aimlock

I used to say the same things, like "look at the future", "i'm not like that", yet even if you haven't used aimlock in the recent time, you are still a pathetic retard.

People like Brian doesn't care about the past, they care about important and objective opinions, not non-sense shits like you.

As to end my non-useful commentary i'd like to add that you can't even rape a paralytic cat in-game being AFK even having a so great advantage as your poverty Pentium 4 with an AGP graphics card PC.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 09:24:41 pm
Aww did I just hurt someone's feeling, seems like you're more of a fanboy then when you insist administration to change your name to include their tag.
the last time i used aimlock was 5 months ago
https://ctf.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=741.msg6943#msg6943
More like 2 months ago.
It's kinda sad watching you attempt to fit your entire vocabulary into one sentence.
Then again, calling you a retard is a compliment in comparison to how stupid you actually are.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ZAiM on July 06, 2018, 09:30:01 pm
Once a cheater always a cheater. Not using aimlock anymore? Ok, we know that you're using something else, soon enough you're gonna get busted using that too.
Maybe in your dreams.

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If you are denied in a clan like MD then it's reasonable to think that you are a single-neuron monkey, with a poverty pc and a pathetic and retarded life. Keep that on mind before insulting Brian.

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REALLY NIGGA?

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WILL GIVE THE EVIDENCE IN ASS

This is how you act when somebody talks about you. Seriously i wouldn't be surprised if you are boarding school in a special school.

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the last time i used aimlock was 5 months ago , but unfortunately , people like you care about past , can't even look to the future  , 5 months later , see how i rape your asses without aimlock

I used to say the same things, like "look at the future", "i'm not like that", yet even if you haven't used aimlock in the recent time, you are still a pathetic retard.

People like Brian doesn't care about the past, they care about important and objective opinions, not non-sense shits like you.

As to end my non-useful commentary i'd like to add that you can't even rape a paralytic cat in-game being AFK even having a so great advantage as your poverty Pentium 4 with an AGP graphics card PC.

Poverty PC? lol , make me feels that you are using NASA PC , look at my poverty pc https://pasteboard.co/HtfTFco.png , and retarded life right? Are you in my life to know how it is? my life is better than yours at least i am not  living with animals , you are the biggest tosser i have ever seen , i am a pathetic retard? look at your VC-MP History you hacked more than me and you stopped hacking after it , same to me i used aimlock 5 months ago and stopped , so you called yourself pathetic retard ,here is your pc (https://i.imgur.com/ALieEVc.jpg)
i think its without ram :D .

Aww did I just hurt someone's feeling, seems like you're more of a fanboy then when you insist administration to change your name to include their tag.
the last time i used aimlock was 5 months ago
https://ctf.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=741.msg6943#msg6943
More like 2 months ago.
It's kinda sad watching you attempt to fit your entire vocabulary into one sentence.
Then again, calling you a retard is a compliment in comparison to how stupid you actually are.
can't you see the EC one? actually you are blind Coon , using hacks better than being dumbass with a shitty life.

ps: i won't reply for any haters and shitty people in this topic.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Vedder on July 06, 2018, 09:47:42 pm
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Poverty PC? lol , make me feels that you are using NASA PC , look at my poverty pc https://pasteboard.co/HtfTFco.png , and retarded life right? Are you in my life to know how it is? my life is better than yours at least i am not  living with animals , you are the biggest tosser i have ever seen , i am a pathetic retard? look at your VC-MP History you hacked more than me and you stopped hacking after it , same to me i used aimlock 5 months ago and stopped , so you called yourself pathetic retard ,here is your pc

Atleast i can reach 60+ FPS in a 2002 game. You have actually abused yourself by uploading that image; i feel sorry for Windows 8, it has to load in a Phenom toaster 10+ years old with not enough ram to even load your desktop.

At the other part, where the hell did i mention animals? That's the most non-sense shit that i've ever read.

You most probably, as you are a retarded monkey, didn't know how to download nor what VCMP was in such eras when i used f1 (2012-13). Yes, of course, i hacked; but i didn't change after 5 months of having done it. What else can you add? Even Morphine and pretty much everyone in this community has hacked atleast once. What i meant is that it doesn't matter if you hack or not, your low IQ is still embarrassing and shows no coherence when writing a text nor i do think that you are able to establish a normal disscussion.

Piss off already, you are banned from participating in this VW Edition, and you are an aimlocker. Nothing else to say.

Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ZAiM on July 06, 2018, 09:52:05 pm
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Poverty PC? lol , make me feels that you are using NASA PC , look at my poverty pc https://pasteboard.co/HtfTFco.png , and retarded life right? Are you in my life to know how it is? my life is better than yours at least i am not  living with animals , you are the biggest tosser i have ever seen , i am a pathetic retard? look at your VC-MP History you hacked more than me and you stopped hacking after it , same to me i used aimlock 5 months ago and stopped , so you called yourself pathetic retard ,here is your pc

Atleast i can reach 60+ FPS in a 2002 game. You have actually abused yourself by uploading that image; i feel sorry for Windows 8, it has to load in a Phenom toaster 10+ years old with not enough ram to even load your desktop.

At the other part, where the hell did i mention animals? That's the most non-sense shit that i've ever read.

You most probably, as you are a retarded monkey, didn't know how to download nor what VCMP was in such eras when i used f1 (2012-13). Yes, of course, i hacked; but i didn't change after 5 months of having done it. What else can you add? Even Morphine and pretty much everyone in this community has hacked atleast once. What i meant is that it doesn't matter if you hack or not, your low IQ is still embarrassing and shows no coherence when writing a text nor i do think that you are able to establish a normal disscussion.

Piss off already, you are banned from participating in this VW Edition, and you are an aimlocker. Nothing else to say.
Will fuck your ass in VW8 don't worry.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 09:54:15 pm
can't you see the EC one? actually you are blind Coon , using hacks better than dumbass with a shitty life.
March 1st still doesn't equal 5 months.
Neither does insulting a white adult with a racial slur to black people.
The ocean must be jealous from the amount of salt you hold.

Poverty PC? lol , make me feels that you are using NASA PC , look at my poverty pc https://pasteboard.co/HtfTFco.png
(https://i.imgur.com/bCCSfuO.png)
https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4
The only problem with your PC is that thing between your keyboard and your chair.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 06, 2018, 09:55:21 pm
Zaim please don't ruin the topic, only important and useful things will be considered .
i'll ask someone to clean the topic so irrelevant posts could get removed.

anyways here is another example of ReX where it looks like he has lag but after continuously looking at his ping I can clearly state that it isn't lag it's something else, also look at the distance ReX covers during jumps considering the fact that his ping is normal moreover the speed does not looks to me anything near to normal I believe he have modified his game speed variables using anything there are bunch of tools,in start of the video he was fighting against me and
he was covering distance faster than a normal player I believe , but suddenly one guy from oranges hopes in and making it 2vs1 for rex, but he just simply kills him in no time , everything will make sense to you if you keep my theory in mind of the term lag you use and looking at the actual ping he is getting. @zkq if you still can't see my point then i'm done with you, try to tackle me back with something useful , if you don't have than please sit back and read.
the other guy called [TSS]Birdman. also reacts same as ReX and his ping is normal too which surprises me a lot since I always have hard time with the ping, by reaction I mean the way he covers distance fast and all the chobby moves during jump is a clear sign of modified game speed.
I also want others to watch this video and give their own explanation and point of view regarding this video.
https://youtu.be/yU7oo6mFk7Q (https://youtu.be/yU7oo6mFk7Q)
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Freak on July 06, 2018, 10:00:21 pm
Anyone get Headshot ingame people call him aimlock , aimlock made you think that all people that make headshots = aimlock , what a shitty retarded Logic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtm3LYw5678

hmm... okay
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 10:05:39 pm
https://youtu.be/sXStzSOaVq4
Hello where's my aimlock ban.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 10:20:45 pm
This is my last reply in this topic, and i would like to tell you that we don't accept cheaters who ever they are. We already kicked many players for hacks and will always keep on that.
You accepted Rex aka Neutron who has been banned at least 3 times for speed gear.
You accepted Zaim who has been banned for aimlock.
You accepted and still have Stitu within your ranks who has been banned for hacking.
Your claims are irrelevant.
yes i do.
If we blame others about their past, go check your ban for F1 and getting kicked from EAF. We don't need to blame the past.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 10:21:32 pm
This is my last reply in this topic, and i would like to tell you that we don't accept cheaters who ever they are. We already kicked many players for hacks and will always keep on that.
You accepted Rex aka Neutron who has been banned at least 3 times for speed gear.
You accepted Zaim who has been banned for aimlock.
You accepted and still have Stitu within your ranks who has been banned for hacking.
Your claims are irrelevant.
yes i do.
If we blame others about their past, go check your ban for F1 and getting kicked from EAF. We don't need to blame the past.
I've been banned for widescreen, not F1.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: BeY3K^ on July 06, 2018, 10:22:54 pm
after watching Devil's video as i also record my gameplay i've a clip of the exact same moment and still his speed gear is also revealing on my screen too and his ping is also low which surprise me , 2 clips of same person same time same reaction time higher than average game speed
what more do you need zkq you joined the wrong place, if you still won't consider than i would simply say you know whatever they are doing and yet still you are defending.
https://youtu.be/Syg9ARZ0Hn8 (https://youtu.be/Syg9ARZ0Hn8)
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 10:23:09 pm
http://littlewhiteys.com/index.php?topic=18714.0

Fear god if you you believe on it
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 10:25:34 pm
You do realize that widescreen was basically the same effect as F1 back in 0.3z.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 06, 2018, 10:26:12 pm
holy shit windows 8 on 2 GB RAM
is that even possible? photoshop?

Also not long ago morphine banned you for hacking on lw and it was much less than 5 months...
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sevrin on July 06, 2018, 10:32:33 pm
Quote from: Freak
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Nice signature bro
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 10:34:24 pm
You do realize that widescreen was basically the same effect as F1 back in 0.3z.

You got banned for F1 or not?
Every player may has ban history for hacks, even you. So we don't need to blame others history if they can change.

Casper got accepted in vu after all his hacks history, because VU gave him a chance because believing he can improve his history. (This is just an example). We did kick many players for  usage of hacks. And about Zaim stuff, [MDd]tag is not official for MD, so any person can use it and we can't tell him to not wear it as it's not a clan tag.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Zkq on July 06, 2018, 10:37:13 pm
Hell i'm wasting my time with many brain donors here, keep talking i will just read and eat popcorn 8)
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 06, 2018, 10:37:14 pm
You do realize that widescreen was basically the same effect as F1 back in 0.3z.

You got banned for F1 or not?
Every player may has ban history for hacks, even you. So we don't need to blame others history if they can change.

Casper got accepted in vu after all his hacks history, because VU gave him a chance because believing he can improve his history. (This is just an example). We did kick many players for  usage of hacks. And about Zaim stuff, [MDd]tag is not official for MD, so any person can use it and we can't tell him to not wear it as it's not a clan tag.
FoV aka widescreen, the F1 allegation came after Abdi posted a edited conversation in which he left out that I tested F1 on a private EAF server that I was hosting at the time.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 06, 2018, 10:39:16 pm
Hell i'm wasting my time with many brain donors here, keep talking i will just read and eat popcorn 8)
Don't waste your time watch my video as I'm waiting for your comment on my video
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Vedder on July 06, 2018, 10:40:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWrr3ycbDc
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ripmemes on July 07, 2018, 10:30:19 am
http://littlewhiteys.com/index.php?topic=18714.0

Fear god if you you believe on it
that ban was issued when I was 9 years old lol
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ZAiM on July 07, 2018, 01:54:50 pm
http://littlewhiteys.com/index.php?topic=18714.0

Fear god if you you believe on it
that ban was issued when I was 9 years old lol
wow nice Sora_Blue xD , You Guys Have A Fucking Hacking history Like Me. don't react that you never hacked and got banned.

i am talking to @biozcalhoun and @Sora_Blue
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 07, 2018, 03:03:46 pm
http://littlewhiteys.com/index.php?topic=18714.0

Fear god if you you believe on it
that ban was issued when I was 9 years old lol
wow nice Sora_Blue xD , You Guys Have A Fucking Hacking history Like Me. don't react that you never hacked and got banned.

i am talking to @biozcalhoun and @Sora_Blue
Count me too in your list btw
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ripmemes on July 07, 2018, 03:53:23 pm
http://littlewhiteys.com/index.php?topic=18714.0

Fear god if you you believe on it
that ban was issued when I was 9 years old lol
wow nice Sora_Blue xD , You Guys Have A Fucking Hacking history Like Me. don't react that you never hacked and got banned.

i am talking to @biozcalhoun and @Sora_Blue
Wait you mean I hacked too?
ey listen, don't disrespect people who are old and well know at this community for their experience. I personally had the same weird gameplay with MD. they were unhittable. Not aiming to be cocky towards MD but that's weird and never seen before. Hunting mentioned a lag tool made by lithjoe and another person in LWs. I tried to get the link for the topic I couldn't find it. And for you Zaim just please stop flaming and insulting. Everybody make mistakes. Me, brian, calhoun and many more and we're not proud of it. Just stop saying no-sense shit. I'm sure there's something that has relation to the case.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 07, 2018, 05:43:22 pm
Hunting mentioned a lag tool made by lithjoe and another person in LWs. I tried to get the link for the topic I couldn't find it.
FFB trainer however I'm not posting it here for obvious reasons.
However, to give you an idea how extreme this tool can be.
(https://i.imgur.com/u69LUZk.jpg)
He's shooting at a place I was at 3 seconds ago as I'm just running circles around him.
Azal himself can explicitly state how extreme this tool is.
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[13:07] <Zeeshan> are you talking about those bullets?
[13:07] <Zeeshan> aim changed to right side
04[13:07] <Brian> No
[13:07] <Zeeshan> then?
04[13:07] <Brian> I told Azal to try to hit me while I was running around
04[13:07] <Brian> That's were he shot
04[13:08] <Brian> And I'm already behind him
[13:08] <Zeeshan> hmm
04[13:08] <Brian> You see what I mean with lag tool?
04[13:08] <Brian> I'm at a entirely different place
04[13:08] <Brian> Than where he is aiming
[13:08] <Zeeshan> hmm
04[13:08] <Brian> To the point I can even backstab him while he sees me infront of him
04[13:09] <Brian> If I were to shoot him at that position
04[13:09] <Brian> This tool would immediately end that desync/lag
04[13:09] <Brian> and sync me behind him with the shooting animation
04[13:09] <Brian> Until I start running again
[13:10] <Zeeshan> oh i got it now
04[13:10] <Brian> There's literally no way to counter this
Zeeshan is also aware of the existence of this tool.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Azal on July 07, 2018, 05:53:34 pm
Hunting mentioned a lag tool made by lithjoe and another person in LWs. I tried to get the link for the topic I couldn't find it.
FFB trainer however I'm not posting it here for obvious reasons.
However, to give you an idea how extreme this tool can be.
(https://i.imgur.com/u69LUZk.jpg)
He's shooting at a place I was at 3 seconds ago as I'm just running circles around him.
Azal himself can explicitly state how extreme this tool is.
Yes, we have tested this tool with some rather disturbing results, and i did also manage to tweak the settings to get a more 'effective' result, however this tool was sent to Stormeus for further examination (Indirectly) and i am waiting for a response from him.

Secondly; [SS]Gohan/Berkely can also state the severe effects of this tool on the game, as he has tested this tool with me.

Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 07, 2018, 05:57:51 pm
Yes, we have tested this tool with some rather disturbing results, and i did also manage to tweak the settings to get a more 'effective' result, however this tool was sent to Stormeus for further examination (Indirectly) and i am waiting for a response from him.

Secondly; [SS]Gohan/Berkely can also state the severe effects of this tool on the game, as he has tested this tool with me.
I can vouch for more testing on this as I have found effective results as well.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: FuRo[X]o on July 07, 2018, 06:35:08 pm
Ok here I go,I just want to say that Me,=KF=MAZE,=F2=Killer_FrosT,=F2=Frodo,KillerX ,=F2=Wild_HunteR,Signature,Beast,Sharabi and some others are from Kohat too and "some" MD's are from kohat.But we dont lagg like them its more easy to kill us than them.Ok ok Dark_Wolf and Madkiller often uses to say that "its our city problem" then why Kody,ReX.Mechanic laggs like hell too???? Actually its a lagg tool and i know who has created it.The point is they laggs same as 30 fps user whereas they plays on 60 fps strange huh?
I think the members of this clan should be banned in every server and or either admins should distribute this hack among us so that they come to know "how fucking hard is it to kill MD's".......
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 07, 2018, 07:01:52 pm
Ok here I go,I just want to say that Me,=KF=MAZE,=F2=Killer_FrosT,=F2=Frodo,KillerX ,=F2=Wild_HunteR,Signature,Beast,Sharabi and some others are from Kohat too and "some" MD's are from kohat.But we dont lagg like them its more easy to kill us than them.Ok ok Dark_Wolf and Madkiller often uses to say that "its our city problem" then why Kody,ReX.Mechanic laggs like hell too???? Actually its a lagg tool and i know who has created it.The point is they laggs same as 30 fps user whereas they plays on 60 fps strange huh?
I think the members of this clan should be banned in every server and or either admins should distribute this hack among us so that they come to know "how fucking hard is it to kill MD's".......
Exactly my point, the thing here is pretty much clear they tell everyone it's their internet while during gameplay their ping stays stable, but they react move wander around not getting hit by bullets not a tiny bit.
today I experimented another thing which I would like to explain some of the people who still think it's their lag, I'm working on another video regarding latency lag or in other words ping in games in general to give you guys an idea what actually happens at both ends if internet gets unstable or there is more load on it than it can handle, or simply the ping rises more than normal level.
also to mention here if it's possible and suits to the cause I would like to have some experiments with the tool you are mentioning @Sora_Blue if it's possible, I've already sent you my contact details in the PM.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ripmemes on July 07, 2018, 07:24:27 pm
Ok here I go,I just want to say that Me,=KF=MAZE,=F2=Killer_FrosT,=F2=Frodo,KillerX ,=F2=Wild_HunteR,Signature,Beast,Sharabi and some others are from Kohat too and "some" MD's are from kohat.But we dont lagg like them its more easy to kill us than them.Ok ok Dark_Wolf and Madkiller often uses to say that "its our city problem" then why Kody,ReX.Mechanic laggs like hell too???? Actually its a lagg tool and i know who has created it.The point is they laggs same as 30 fps user whereas they plays on 60 fps strange huh?
I think the members of this clan should be banned in every server and or either admins should distribute this hack among us so that they come to know "how fucking hard is it to kill MD's".......
Exactly my point, the thing here is pretty much clear they tell everyone it's their internet while during gameplay their ping stays stable, but they react move wander around not getting hit by bullets not a tiny bit.
today I experimented another thing which I would like to explain some of the people who still think it's their lag, I'm working on another video regarding latency lag or in other words ping in games in general to give you guys an idea what actually happens at both ends if internet gets unstable or there is more load on it than it can handle, or simply the ping rises more than normal level.
also to mention here if it's possible and suits to the cause I would like to have some experiments with the tool you are mentioning @Sora_Blue if it's possible, I've already sent you my contact details in the PM.
Yeha that's pretty good, but is it easy to detect? this is the question to ask. what are the factors that allow us to know whether they use that tool or not(like in aimlock: immediate rotation and following the head) and as I saw in hunting's post it was like it injectes in the game. so can it be detectable by script?
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 07, 2018, 07:36:16 pm
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Yeha that's pretty good, but is it easy to detect? this is the question to ask. what are the factors that allow us to know whether they use that tool or not(like in aimlock: immediate rotation and following the head) and as I saw in hunting's post it was like it injectes in the game. so can it be detectable by script?

it's pretty easy to detect visibly , whenever you see a player who has normal ping which stays normal for the most of time try to wait for it to refresh on F5 board  and check his fps if both of these things are stable and the guy is acting weird like he is lagging or he has fps drops he is using it.
I don't know what more brings this sort of weirdness in your gameplay maybe in future we could solve this issue but for now we have to wait or at-least look for the symptoms.
our community is growing day by day and yet the client is getting more stable day by day so I think nothing can be achieved in over a night and who knows after fix of this issue we might have something new to work on.
in simple word it's a chain it will go on like this forever , people will find ways to get advantage and developers will keep on working on anti-cheat to keep game fair.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 07, 2018, 07:42:24 pm
There's a guy on LW named [JW]3laWi or something like that. He's suspicious af, being unhittable and his ping is below 100, which is more than obvious not legit. Any idea on what he could be using?

/edit: Months ago I was mocking LW staff saying I used lag hack, but that wasn't actually hacking. I was using my USB soundcard and changed sound processing via game options, which happened to stress out my CPU instead. xD
Though I think that was before the actual lag hack was created.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 07, 2018, 07:59:07 pm
There's a guy on LW named [JW]3laWi or something like that. He's suspicious af, being unhittable and his ping is below 100, which is more than obvious not legit. Any idea on what he could be using?
FFB trainer, same goes to some RK guy santiago_pro15 or w/e his name is.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 07, 2018, 08:35:10 pm
There's a guy on LW named [JW]3laWi or something like that. He's suspicious af, being unhittable and his ping is below 100, which is more than obvious not legit. Any idea on what he could be using?
FFB trainer, same goes to some RK guy santiago_pro15 or w/e his name is.
I've also came across him many time while fighting against MDs he  also supports them and i don't know but he have created a video on me too i wonder with that much stress could a person even play the.game, i can't even play at 30 fps
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 07, 2018, 09:59:42 pm
There's a guy on LW named [JW]3laWi or something like that. He's suspicious af, being unhittable and his ping is below 100, which is more than obvious not legit. Any idea on what he could be using?
FFB trainer, same goes to some RK guy santiago_pro15 or w/e his name is.

I would actually like to know more about this thing. This is the reason I stopped playing vcmp because I noticed more low-ping players using it on LW. At first I thought it was aimbot lag, but I knew it was something else.

Could you briefly tell me what it does and how it works? I'd be more aware of it on LW and have a sensical explanation when reporting those bastards.

Thanks for letting me know about the mod, haven't heard of it before.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Sora_Blue on July 07, 2018, 11:03:19 pm
There's no way to detect it other than for VCMP devs to decompile and reverse engineer said tool to block it from the client entirely.
Only those who know how each and everyone play and have played for years can notice the change in a player's playstyle/lag.
Like say the average player who randomly joins a clan and then after joining said clan becomes unhittable the next time he plays because he got his hands on this tool from said clan's private board.

It basically fucks around with the 'physics/friction' of the engine to emulate a typical 0.3z 300+ pinger that's warping all over the map.
Basically a form of desync.
04[13:08] <Brian> To the point I can even backstab him while he sees me infront of him
04[13:09] <Brian> If I were to shoot him at that position
04[13:09] <Brian> This tool would immediately end that desync/lag
04[13:09] <Brian> and sync me behind him with the shooting animation
04[13:09] <Brian> Until I start running again

Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Radon on July 08, 2018, 04:02:14 pm
What a shame, you guys can't even play an old game from 2002's era without hacks or so. I understand about the Y axis fix or the mouse movement to be fixed and much more stuff like the game gets broken if you'll go over 100+ FPS and it is likely unplayable. But seriously, now it is getting over it.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: NeuTroN on July 08, 2018, 09:46:23 pm
MD Fans 😎 ☺🤛 8)
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ripmemes on July 08, 2018, 10:24:20 pm
I played today against dark wolf and it appeared to be some kind of speed gear. He was unhittable and even his lag somehow affects me. These MD guys are really weird.
Just why people need to hack? It is just a retarded action that shows who they are in real life. Can't people have fun with this game? This community is so toxic. Actually the ORIGINAL devs of this game just started VCMP as a source code for san andreas. Them leaving the game is just a sign of it being useless. Server staff teams lack members who are famillar with vcmp engine and code, know how to detect hackers without misunderstandings and shit. Even can script tools to detect hacks based on their advantages not on gta vc .asi mod files. Where is this kind of staff team. Hacks should be blocked for once and for all. What I'm trying to say is that this is becoming useless. Wait for the call of developper.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ripmemes on July 10, 2018, 08:00:14 pm
today I joined EC, and found MD dudes as well as the so called "[ON]HuntinG".
I just asked him about that tool, told me that "we won't be able to detect its users if they spread it"
hinting that he have a copy of this tool and may be or may not he gave it to MD guys.
(link of pics: https://imgur.com/a/NhfVitB )
now as a result and as I've seen with many players that I fight with, every player who is an MD or no longer a member of it have the same fight style and cancerous lag.
yet I am waiting for an experienced admin or a developper reply to this case, we won't let these guys ruin our game by fucking using hacks and shit they use. and I'm requesting them -if you see this- to just give us a reply, about wtf is happening and why almost every hack is developped and disturbed every day. and even if there's way to save VCMP from getting sunk in the sea of fucking hackers and retards.


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Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: PaiN. on July 10, 2018, 11:24:09 pm
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: BeY3K^ on July 14, 2018, 06:36:26 am
if you duel with any MD's retard player. you just simply focus on his jump. and then check his ping. their jump totally like 350+ ping but they had 200 ping. i have alot of video's that i was saved in my pc
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Silent on July 14, 2018, 09:52:05 am
Seriously does the MD tag come with a lag enhancer or something  ???
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: GoRcEE on July 14, 2018, 09:56:39 am
Seriously does the MD tag come with a lag enhancer or something  ???
If it was a truth, every asslicking dude would have been using [MD] or maybe two [md][md] for more lag power jeje.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 14, 2018, 10:02:53 am
Yet people think it is lag xD
Title: Re: Debate-is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Dr.Danny on July 25, 2018, 10:26:49 pm
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
Title: Re: Debate-is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ZAiM on July 25, 2018, 11:02:25 pm
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90s pc and cancerous connection is essential to be an md
Poor PTCL and shitty internet is required to be friend with danny

PS: if we have poor pc how the fuck we are recording with 60 fps in highest quality, and your poverty pc can't even record.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: morphine on July 25, 2018, 11:16:45 pm
yep
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: santiago15_pro on July 26, 2018, 01:06:44 am
There's a guy on LW named [JW]3laWi or something like that. He's suspicious af, being unhittable and his ping is below 100, which is more than obvious not legit. Any idea on what he could be using?
FFB trainer, same goes to some RK guy santiago_pro15 or w/e his name is.

Whattt?
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: mdctrools0 on July 26, 2018, 07:49:49 pm
Soon revenge of MDs  >:D
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: mdctrools0 on July 26, 2018, 07:52:47 pm
Good PTCL and Fast internet is required to join our team just check channel of madkiller and darkwolf and see fps hahah it hurt  >:D
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: WiLsOn on July 26, 2018, 08:02:31 pm
Reported for double posting.
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: XGamer on July 26, 2018, 09:20:40 pm
Good PTCL and Fast internet is required to join our team just check channel of madkiller and darkwolf and see fps hahah it hurt  >:D
tere tatton mein aag lagay
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: FuRo[X]o on July 27, 2018, 06:42:55 am
I think the case has been solved @DevilJin I will PM you everything + to some admins too.there isn't any tool but there is something that is making them laggy and I think this thing is very much known to all of us but no one knows its effects... But hopefully F2.Thunderbird gave us the clue and here is the conclusion...
I will pm everything to admins....
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: Milko on July 27, 2018, 02:24:16 pm
Good PTCL and Fast internet is required to join our team just check channel of madkiller and darkwolf and see fps hahah it hurt  >:D
tere tatton mein aag lagay

chod na bakalar yaar
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: ripmemes on July 27, 2018, 03:23:40 pm
I think the case has been solved @DevilJin I will PM you everything + to some admins too.there isn't any tool but there is something that is making them laggy and I think this thing is very much known to all of us but no one knows its effects... But hopefully F2.Thunderbird gave us the clue and here is the conclusion...
I will pm everything to admins....
If you have something that is worth seeing and discussing, PM me too. I can help.

E: Let me guess the thing they use, they open google chrome when playing or cheat engine?
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: broly on July 27, 2018, 03:54:17 pm
Fan Level = Infinity
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: (PaK)DeViL_JiN on July 30, 2018, 07:04:47 am
I think the case has been solved @DevilJin I will PM you everything + to some admins too.there isn't any tool but there is something that is making them laggy and I think this thing is very much known to all of us but no one knows its effects... But hopefully F2.Thunderbird gave us the clue and here is the conclusion...
I will pm everything to admins....
Yeah I would like to see what others are coming up with
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: KILLERX. on July 30, 2018, 09:47:09 am
Rename this forum to Dramas forum  :laugh:  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Debate- MDs is this Warp/lag/or hack
Post by: WiLsOn on July 30, 2018, 10:31:20 am
Rename this forum to Dramas forum  :laugh:  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The greatest forum in whole vcmp community for a reason.   8)