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Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Denied Applications => Topic started by: KingOfVC on April 26, 2020, 03:09:43 pm

Title: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 26, 2020, 03:09:43 pm
Nick: imkiki

Age: 21

Timezone/Country: GMT +08:00/Malaysia

Previous Nicks: KingOfVC

Additional Comments: heyo, i think i dont need to explain myself since u guys know alot about me, i working hard and trying contribute with whatever i can for the community. i appreciate if you all let the past go and reconsider about me

Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Hazard on April 26, 2020, 03:56:33 pm
Good luck Kikita!
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Drakola on April 26, 2020, 04:24:34 pm
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/denied-applications/my-application-imkiki-2676/


You recently has been denied in MK, now why did you choose VU? Any special reason? Neutral for now.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 26, 2020, 04:46:56 pm
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/denied-applications/my-application-imkiki-2676/


You recently has been denied in MK, now why did you choose VU? Any special reason? Neutral for now.
as u can see i got denied and app banned right after sahil kick (https://rtv.pl-community.com/topic/3-rtv-server-staff/?do=findComment&comment=1382), i dont think i can apply again, even i can, i dont want to stay with this guy again
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Deadmau5 on April 26, 2020, 04:50:56 pm
No.
You have to change, I just saw your application in mk and look at everything you're accused.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: mairee on April 26, 2020, 05:08:19 pm
My vote would be positive only if you hadn't applied to MK, neutral. About the whole drama caused, I stand with you and believe you were right on your position, so I don't care about that at all.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: SMD on April 26, 2020, 05:35:13 pm
Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: DiaZ on April 26, 2020, 05:48:16 pm
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VU - Left, having problem with some members

You stated this on all of your applications in other clans. Can you tell with who you had problem? As far I know when you posted your leaving application everyone told you to stay and not to leave.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 26, 2020, 06:05:55 pm
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VU - Left, having problem with some members

You stated this on all of your applications in other clans. Can you tell with who you had problem? As far I know when you posted your leaving application everyone told you to stay and not to leave.
instead trying solve, i choose easily way and i extreme regret it after that, most members a i got problem with on that time are not longer in vu
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: RajPut on April 26, 2020, 07:08:17 pm
I know you are KiKi, and you own RTV. Nothing else.

Neutral
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Siezer on April 26, 2020, 07:28:31 pm
I'm voting trainee for you, kik. Good luck!
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Ryne on April 26, 2020, 07:34:48 pm
You have a great potential.   

I recommend you to clear the air around you in general.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: WiLsOn on April 26, 2020, 07:39:31 pm
About that drama happened in RTV, if I were you I would have never picked any side, see what happened now.


When you left VU before you said that VU have too many Pakis it's still same here, what changed your mind now?


Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Fercho on April 26, 2020, 07:43:20 pm
My vote would be positive only if you hadn't applied to MK, neutral.
Well this is the only thing that has brought my attention, I need some good explanation about it.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 26, 2020, 08:18:45 pm
About that drama happened in RTV, if I were you I would have never picked any side, see what happened now.
i only have 2 option on that time, both can giving consequences, and i choose community over my own app.

When you left VU before you said that VU have too many Pakis it's still same here, what changed your mind now?
i giving random excuse when some ask me why i left

My vote would be positive only if you hadn't applied to MK, neutral.
Well this is the only thing that has brought my attention, I need some good explanation about it.
i have more positive vote there, as you can see my most recent app in mk, but after sahil kick & being blacklisted on mk i changed my mind
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: CHE_JoOoOoO^ on April 26, 2020, 08:51:17 pm
I think you need more time to regain the trust of the members, I know you are regretting, but I'll vote no for now.

Advice: Don't apply in any clan as long as you really want to enter VU once again. Believe me kiki you can do it.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Callum on April 26, 2020, 08:59:54 pm
Well well well ohh Kiki's application hmm as a person you are nice and about all drama behind mk application i recommend you to not just simply go for any decision right away at least discuss it with your clanmates.

Voting trainee bcoz i know u have gone through from many ups and downs.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Zatch on April 27, 2020, 02:41:20 am
VU_T
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Roystang on April 27, 2020, 06:21:47 am
Agreeing to Xmair's post, i'll go with neutral for now.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Charley on April 27, 2020, 07:03:41 am
most members a i got problem with on that time are not longer in vu

Most? So who's left?
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: ferrari32 on April 27, 2020, 08:52:06 am
I don't think you will be loyal after getting accepted kiki. I am going with no.
time will tell :)

Time has told. I'm not convinced that you actually want to be a part of this clan.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 27, 2020, 10:26:55 am
most members a i got problem with on that time are not longer in vu

Most? So who's left?
i dont exactly remember after 2 years, but i know it was problem related to argonathrpg
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Charley on April 28, 2020, 02:53:25 am
At the moment, imkiki, the majority of the votes in the poll are 'neutral' - not yes, not no.

Why do you think that so many people are neutral?
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 05:33:42 am
At the moment, imkiki, the majority of the votes in the poll are 'neutral' - not yes, not no.

Why do you think that so many people are neutral?

aight,
they want me to explain about sahil and mk, so here we go:
after being denied in vu, i was trying to get second chance in mk, i did try apply for first time, applications seems good, but got denied due to mk managments dont like me (ofc they dont like my past) so after months i try apply again, yes applications seems good once again, but shit about to get real when sahil come up with his master plan: he want me to kick elk and siezer as he want paki free rtv management, and yes it was pre planned in their private discord, so 2 options comes up on my mind, which: kick both from rtv, and get higher change to get accepted in mk or kick sahil from rtv so no more shit happen in future. but problem is both give consequences, which rtv community eventually fall, people start calling me racist piece of shit, being hated more OR rip mk application. i told myself i would never repeat what happen to last time. so i choose to remove sahil from rtv.

what happen after sahil kicked from rtv?
i got denied and appbanned from mk, some delusional sahil fans start question me about sahil kick, but my anwser is same: you break rules you out, no matter what roles you are, if you hate paki then leave vcmp, also we have strong evidence before we do something.

why you choose vu over mk now?
well, i got appbanned from future apply. also i highly disappointed about mk management, they did nothing about sahil. cant blame them since its their culture. so now i cant go anywhere except vu, i know i have little chance to get accept in vu, but i still want to tryharder.

did you did something to community?
yes, but not in gameplay part, i active since october to develop new version of rtv which turn rtv into next level, i rewrite whole script with helping of elk, and server got famous day by day, eventually become top server in vcmp in 2020, and won at least 1 category in server award. i also host first event in my life, which is rtv championship, it not so perfect but me and my team will try to improve it.

dont mind this kikita language xd
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Ryne on April 28, 2020, 06:39:58 am
Kiki, Thank you for clearing the air around you. The picture is more clear now. This would truly help you in your future endeavours in-game and in real life. You should never run from anything which you think will make you look like fool or guilty. However, accepting your mistakes and incapabilities is the way to grow. You should always take criticism as a learning lesson from anyone who you think really care about you.

Peace. I have voted positive for you. Good luck!

Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Drakola on April 28, 2020, 08:56:57 am
Changing to Trainee. Good luck with other votes.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: MasterOz on April 28, 2020, 09:02:22 am
Seems to be a devoted,nice guy :)
Good Luck!
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Veteran on April 28, 2020, 09:11:19 am
Voting Trainee :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: RajPut on April 28, 2020, 09:27:58 am
Seems, you deserve a chance. Voting trainee.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Sk on April 28, 2020, 09:31:32 am
At the moment, imkiki, the majority of the votes in the poll are 'neutral' - not yes, not no.

Why do you think that so many people are neutral?

aight,
they want me to explain about sahil and mk, so here we go:
after being denied in vu, i was trying to get second chance in mk, i did try apply for first time, applications seems good, but got denied due to mk managments dont like me (ofc they dont like my past) so after months i try apply again, yes applications seems good once again, but shit about to get real when sahil come up with his master plan: he want me to kick elk and siezer as he want paki free rtv management, and yes it was pre planned in their private discord, so 2 options comes up on my mind, which: kick both from rtv, and get higher change to get accepted in mk or kick sahil from rtv so no more shit happen in future. but problem is both give consequences, which rtv community eventually fall, people start calling me racist piece of shit, being hated more OR rip mk application. i told myself i would never repeat what happen to last time. so i choose to remove sahil from rtv.

what happen after sahil kicked from rtv?
i got denied and appbanned from mk, some delusional sahil fans start question me about sahil kick, but my anwser is same: you break rules you out, no matter what roles you are, if you hate paki then leave vcmp, also we have strong evidence before we do something.

why you choose vu over mk now?
well, i got appbanned from future apply. also i highly disappointed about mk management, they did nothing about sahil. cant blame them since its their culture. so now i cant go anywhere except vu, i know i have little chance to get accept in vu, but i still want to tryharder.

did you did something to community?
yes, but not in gameplay part, i active since october to develop new version of rtv which turn rtv into next level, i rewrite whole script with helping of elk, and server got famous day by day, eventually become top server in vcmp in 2020, and won at least 1 category in server award. i also host first event in my life, which is rtv championship, it not so perfect but me and my team will try to improve it.

dont mind this kikita language xd
I don't want to be rude or something but It's my personal opinion and some of my friends also told me that you are not racist but Sahil is along with his friends and they have this discord chat where they abuse Muslims and Pakistanis but I would only say they really don't deserve to play in this game mode they should either find another or stop criticizing us base on our religion or race. As for you, I voted positively before they asked for your explanation and I stand by my vote.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Sezar on April 28, 2020, 09:46:07 am
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529020682508435472/704627968353370112/Screenshot_20200428-150830_1.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529020682508435472/704629830997508126/Capture.PNG)

change is valid in one months huh? reconsider again before voting  O0
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Roystang on April 28, 2020, 09:50:47 am
At the moment, imkiki, the majority of the votes in the poll are 'neutral' - not yes, not no.

Why do you think that so many people are neutral?
......
Sorry mate, I'm not convinced with your explanation, you sound like VU was always your second choice.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: DiaZ on April 28, 2020, 10:19:55 am
most members a i got problem with on that time are not longer in vu

Most? So who's left?
i dont exactly remember after 2 years, but i know it was problem related to argonathrpg

No one left during this 2 years duration except Calhoun and I am voting no.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 10:59:38 am
..
next time post full conversation instead half, delusional sahil fans
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Sezar on April 28, 2020, 11:03:30 am
yeah sure, same goes for the one who got those evidences and were accusing sahil "he abuses pakistan and muslim".

p.s :- guess what? we still have the logs.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529020682508435472/704649284410277918/IMG-20200402-WA0004.jpg)

bonus :-(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529020682508435472/704650218943021116/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 11:10:40 am
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hi newfag, seems u never played ead champs or other tournament before, back them it some match got delay too much because some reason include powercut, so nothing wrong in it, also these meme are created by your truly indian friends in whatsapp and i just post in on indian discord channel
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Sezar on April 28, 2020, 11:23:33 am
02/02/2020
25/03/2020

the date only talks itself


well I provided evidence and ask the member to re-consider their votes. Peace out anyways.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 11:39:27 am
02/02/2020
25/03/2020

the date only talks itself


well I provided evidence and ask the member to re-consider their votes. Peace out anyways.
aight man u think im one of them, sure. but do u know ending? u dont know everything and just blindly make hate post

i want to burst out your friends 'holy' operation so i must act one of them so i wont get kicked quickly lmao
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: PunkNoodle on April 28, 2020, 12:39:48 pm
What kind of moron would view those memes as something discriminatory, what is exactly the point here?
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Siezer on April 28, 2020, 12:47:36 pm
02/02/2020
25/03/2020

the date only talks itself


well I provided evidence and ask the member to re-consider their votes. Peace out anyways.

Do not reply back in this application please unless you've something useful to add. We've banned a lot of members in the past for the same reason.

Thank you for notifying us. Now, let our members check and make a fair decision.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Roystang on April 28, 2020, 01:08:03 pm
At the moment, imkiki, the majority of the votes in the poll are 'neutral' - not yes, not no.

Why do you think that so many people are neutral?
......
Sorry mate, I'm not convinced with your explanation, you sound like VU was always your second choice.

kikita i want you to clear me out.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 01:19:32 pm
At the moment, imkiki, the majority of the votes in the poll are 'neutral' - not yes, not no.

Why do you think that so many people are neutral?
......
Sorry mate, I'm not convinced with your explanation, you sound like VU was always your second choice.

kikita i want you to clear me out.
vu always is my primary chance, yea i do have 'backup plan' but eventually i still want vu

tbh i interact with vu members more than mk (because vu members are active)
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: ripmemes on April 28, 2020, 01:32:06 pm
What kind of moron would view those memes as something discriminatory, what is exactly the point here?
to my personal view, they are overrated, unfunny and just asserting fake stereotypes while pushing people away from this beautiful religion and blinding them from realizing the important facts surrounding it especially its sensible philosophy and rational orthodoxy.



Good Luck.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: karan on April 28, 2020, 01:57:48 pm
he's a double faced snake, deal with caution, won't say much, he was like a brother to me, it took him just a moment to ruin it all :/ be careful, all he care bout is being privileged, wherever he go, whatever actions he takes, all of it will have some motive/intentions behind it, good luck!
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 28, 2020, 02:04:46 pm
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There are other ways to handle stuff, There was a time when entire VCMP community wanted Wilson to step down as the Developer of EAD, at that time we both managed to go through that critical situation in our own way.

Kiki you really need to decide if you want to wander around as a neutral guy or as someone who favours a particular part of this community.

Sezer here tried to put up an example of what you do behind-the-scenes, only his way of putting it here was wrong.
I have also known you for a while kiki and I don't like this side of yours, you are more like a 2-face guy right now and that's not acceptable.
Also I would like to know all the details about why you left and who was the member that had conflicts with you. If you don't open up then you are on your luck.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: RajPut on April 28, 2020, 02:20:56 pm
What kind of moron would view those memes as something discriminatory, what is exactly the point here?
Sorry to cut you out but this is the same behaviour which got thomas kicked out of VU.

He eventually need to correct this behaviour before or after getting accepted in VU. Otherwise I am afraid to say that consequences can be same as recent decision.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: PunkNoodle on April 28, 2020, 02:27:00 pm
What kind of moron would view those memes as something discriminatory, what is exactly the point here?
to my personal view, they are overrated, unfunny and just asserting fake stereotypes while pushing people away from this beautiful religion and blinding them from realizing the important facts surrounding it especially its sensible philosophy and rational orthodoxy.
I agree they might be overrated and unfunny simply on the logical base that everyone has a subjective response in regards to what's funny or not. I disagree with the rest because it's a 'meme', none of them should be used to push an agenda whether positive or negative.

What kind of moron would view those memes as something discriminatory, what is exactly the point here?
Sorry to cut you out but this is the same behaviour which got thomas kicked out of VU.

He eventually need to correct this behaviour before or after getting accepted in VU. Otherwise I am afraid to say that consequences can be same as recent decision.
I believe Thomas was kicked for a number of other reasons that meme was barely the last straw. The context was:
a) it sounded racist, and without any punchline.
b) it was uncalled for, and out of the topic.
c) it reinforced the belief that he was misbehaving, more so after his demotion, thus a disregard of his recent punishment.

That is to say I don't think we can compare neither the two persons nor the situations, however I have to agree that kiki may has to amend some behavioural quirks regardless but that meme in the context Sezar presented has no relevance at all. I'm sure nobody was going to give a f* if I was the one who shared it. Not because I'm above the law or anything, I'm merely pointing out that the context matters the most.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 02:54:59 pm
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There are other ways to handle stuff, There was a time when entire VCMP community wanted Wilson to step down as the Developer of EAD, at that time we both managed to go through that critical situation in our own way.

Kiki you really need to decide if you want to wander around as a neutral guy or as someone who favours a particular part of this community.

Sezer here tried to put up an example of what you do behind-the-scenes, only his way of putting it here was wrong.
I have also known you for a while kiki and I don't like this side of yours, you are more like a 2-face guy right now and that's not acceptable.


on that situation it i cant do nothing, sahil would bring [mk]rest and thing will be more complicated, sahil want to destroy current staff roster and i cant just sitting there and doing nothing, and karan and sahil are friends so anything can be happen

Also I would like to know all the details about why you left and who was the member that had conflicts with you. If you don't open up then you are on your luck.

it was in 2017 and it all related argonathrpg gameplay, which between amal and lily on that time, i was raging because small thing and left without explain anything
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Nyon410 on April 28, 2020, 03:00:52 pm
Improve DM skills, voting T
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: KingOfVC on April 28, 2020, 03:02:40 pm
Improve DM skills, voting T
i will :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: karan on April 28, 2020, 03:11:34 pm
on that situation it i cant do nothing, sahil would bring [mk]rest and thing will be more complicated, sahil want to destroy current staff roster and i cant just sitting there and doing nothing, and karan and sahil are friends so anything can be happen
relax dude, we didn't born yesterday, keep this your double standard somewhere else, you intentionally insulted Pakistanis and their religion when you were with us, you disrespected your server's female staff, even tho I was aware of all that, I still supported you and defended you when arguing with San, later on, you come up with more drama bout kicking sahil from owner role, I don't mind VC:MP, I didn't even run that parody server with RTV script,but you never wanted to reply and clear all the doubts, you went straightforward to PL's ally and started to spat venom on my name, telling them that I am a joke and bullshit, yet I told you already, people you supporting these days or getting support from, are still my buddies, they're not two-faced, they'll come straightforward and let me know what is going around when I am not around, calm your balls, you're getting nowhere with this attitude and slavery, you're more selfish than any of my 15 cats.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: WiLsOn on April 28, 2020, 03:18:48 pm
Trainee, don't disappoint us again.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Jokah on April 28, 2020, 05:17:06 pm
Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Davut^ on April 28, 2020, 05:42:49 pm
Good Luck Kik! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: ferrari32 on April 28, 2020, 06:25:35 pm
Honestly, I don't really care about this rtv thing. You applied. We told you to come back in a few months. And then you applied to MK. As I said, I don't see any real enthusiasm from you and therefore I'll vote no. It's a shame though.

To put into different words, I don't see any motive here. And a man without motive is one of two things, either incredibly stupid or a liar. And I don't think you're stupid at all kiki.

Majority will decide, good luck.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Roystang on April 28, 2020, 08:14:32 pm
aight. dont mess it up this time, Trainee it is.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: SqmmySqm on April 28, 2020, 09:05:42 pm
No.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Charley on April 29, 2020, 01:37:39 am
Thanks for your explanations, kiki.

From experience, I try to be careful about people who appear to have drama follow them around. It usually means that they bring it wherever they go, and it's much nicer when VU is a drama-free zone.

I'm going to side with Shawn and Ferrari on this one and vote no. I'd like to leave the door open, though. If there's evidence that you can avoid or solve drama effectively in the future, I'd be happy to change my mind.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: mairee on April 29, 2020, 10:57:51 am
While your explanation is satisfactory, I still have doubts about your loyalty. You see, getting denied and then applying to another clan doesn't prove anything but disloyalty. If this application gets denied and your next application is here again, I'll surely vote positively. I hope you understand.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Kyle. on April 29, 2020, 04:52:45 pm
good luck
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Sawyer on April 29, 2020, 09:55:22 pm
I've read everything and i convinced. Trainee
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Trax on April 30, 2020, 02:00:06 am
Trainee.

Edit: Don't disappoint us.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: auzk on April 30, 2020, 11:41:07 am
My computer broke down recently and that's why i couldn't vote...
I'm voting Trainee..GL
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Febulous. on April 30, 2020, 06:27:59 pm
Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: TheKing on May 01, 2020, 10:04:00 pm
Kiki, theres a lot of turmoil rolling around with you at the moment. Like it has been explained in the past if you wanted to be here you would of made an effort to be here not go around hanging apps to the best flagship clan I can get to. You need to get it together and realize theres lots of mending up to do, clearing up to do and show more effort on trying to be here again, cause at the moment me and half of the other members don't think you are.

We can't be going back and forth on this matter. Either you're here or you're not. At the moment I honestly don't see you can add positive vibes in the family, with the amount of negative votes the application has i'm going have to request you to take more time to make ties with the people here and show you really are interested in VU and all what it stands for, cause you know what does core values are.

I'm gonna have to Deny this application for now. Take some time to evaluate this, and if you want to be here you'll tidy everything up and apply again after a while.

Wish you well.
Title: Re: Application - imkiki
Post by: Charley on May 04, 2020, 02:28:01 pm
Also, here are the poll results:

Total members voted: 38.

Rookie 2 (5.3%)
Trainee 16 (42.1%)
Neutral 4 (10.5%)
Nope. 16 (42.1%

Please note: the polls on our applications are advisory; they do not bind the decision over whether or not to accept the applicant by means of simple majority.