About the shit saying Juan is some cult of personality in VU, I most harshly disagree. His rank was full member, just as mine's, fox's, zeke's or any other. He wasn't a leader of any sort here, just a member. I worked up through the ranks, from barely getting accepted as trainee, to my rank of full member. The Vice Underdogs clan is filled with people who I consider as friends, even 'tho I never met them in real life, and yes, that is very much possible. Metalord, we took you in when no one else wanted you, everyone remembered you as a flamer, a rude person, and an asshole. This disappoints me.