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Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: Charley on April 01, 2016, 12:16:20 pm
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Donald Trump has the potential to inflict an incredible amount of evil on this planet. We who live outside of the US don't get a vote, but we can still use our voices to influence those who do.
Sign this:
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Signed.
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It is always best to raise your voice whatever method it is, I have signed it, thanks for sharing. In my opinion by signing this, we people can't revert his victory. Clinton in her speech today asked and requested people to support trump and let him lead.
Yesterday marked the black day in the history of USA with the victory of Donald Trump. People went on the street to protest against him on his victory night and still protesting. California is calling for 'calexit' from US. Number of people including celebrities are moving to canada after his presidential victory. There are tons of tweets you can read against trump, how disappointed people are with his victory. ISIL supporters are celebrating Trump’s victory as beginning of ‘the end of the American empire'
It was astonishing for Canadians, when suddenly yesterday canada's immigration and citizenship website crashed when trump was approaching towards victory. Here in canada people are in mixed mood about trump's victory. I just crossed by trump tower here in Toronto today, supporters were celebrating outside it with some free giveaways.
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Yesterday marked the black day in the history of USA with the victory of Donald Trump. People went on the street to protest against him on his victory night and still protesting. California is calling for 'calexit' from US. Number of people including celebrities are moving to canada after his presidential victory. There are tons of tweets you can read against trump, how disappointed people are with his victory. ISIL supporters are celebrating Trump’s victory as beginning of ‘the end of the American empire'
Strange isn't it ?
Because people voted for him and now they don't want him.
I know that he didn't won by a huge lead but majority wins.
Whatever happens happens for good let's hope for the best
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Yesterday marked the black day in the history of USA with the victory of Donald Trump. People went on the street to protest against him on his victory night and still protesting. California is calling for 'calexit' from US. Number of people including celebrities are moving to canada after his presidential victory. There are tons of tweets you can read against trump, how disappointed people are with his victory. ISIL supporters are celebrating Trump’s victory as beginning of ‘the end of the American empire'
Strange isn't it ?
Because people voted for him and now they don't want him.
I know that he didn't won by a huge lead but majority wins.
Whatever happens happens for good let's hope for the best
yeah more strange is trump did so much negative campaign against American-African and 8% votes to trump are by American-African. People who are protesting are from west America from where trump lost and clinton won.
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funny enough - it's always the democrats that moan about the results of democratic elections
of course, as everyone here does, you can just ride the social media anti-trump bandwagon, because clinton is so much better, right? nope
what world needs is stability, and who did clinton blame in probably nearly every speech she made? russia for everything
the world doesn't need major superpowers hating each other, it needs stable relations between all of them and that's what trump has promised to do.
Number of people including celebrities are moving to canada after his presidential victory.
1. that's total bullshit
2. even if they do, then usa won't have any worries about celebs like this going out (http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/20/madonna-promises-to-give-anyone-who-votes-for-hillary-clinton-a-blow-job-6203560/)
There are tons of tweets you can read against trump
and there are tons of tweets against clinton as well, y'know the bad shit she has done too
ISIL supporters are celebrating Trump’s victory as beginning of ‘the end of the American empire'
source? valid proof?
even if yes (which i doubt), then who gives a fuck about rats like isil anyway?
yeah more strange is trump did so much negative campaign against American-African and 8% votes to trump are by American-African.
examples? (plz no sites like democracynow)
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All time enemy of muslims, Lord will save the world now.
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All time enemy of muslims, Lord will save the world now.
You say it like Clinton likes to hug all Muslims. Clinton is not any better than Trump.
Note: I dont support any of them.
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All time enemy of muslims, Lord will save the world now.
Why you refer it as the end of the world ? He ain't ruling Pakistan
If he tries to take any action against Muslim around the world then there will be opposite reaction because Muslim community is also huge.
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Still sucks that an election that's thousands and thousands of miles away from me still affects my daily life. I've been paying some attention to the stock market here yesterday and I've noticed a 15% drop in companies that are affected from outside the country.
Apart from that, my country's part of NATO, which will probably change now as we're stuck in an economical stagnation, and can't compete to most European countries that invest in military technology and NATO's arsenal itself. Trump proposed a new policy towards NATO, translating somewhat to pay me and I'll protect you.
Very bad for us considering the threats of neighbouring countries with radical governments, plus a new ISIS sleeper agent threat coming from the muslim population of Bosnia.
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Both ISIS & KKK like Trump for obvious reasons. KKK because Trump shares the same mindset and ISIS because by hating on perfectly normal Muslims in particular, he's helping ISIS to convince their local population that each and every single entity in west hates them.
It'd be ridiculous to say that these Presidents are "elected". I'd say they're selected. All Presidents of USA in the past 20-30 years have directly/indirectly started wars. Bill Clinton’s “quiet war†on Iraq set the stage for George W. Bush’s bloody invasion. Obama's administration funded "moderate rebels" which later turned into ISIS with shitload of resources and training they acquired during their "moderate rebels" time period.
Anyone with common sense and a little knowledge of history can easily predict how rapidly the world's political scenario is changing. We are headed towards the World War 3 and at this particular moment which is undoubtedly one of the most sensitive in humanity's modern history, Donald Trump has been brought into authority and power, just so they can achieve their bloody objectives. The worst among people are being elected their leaders. Is this not enough to perplex and worry any sane person?
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Anyone with common sense and a little knowledge of history
Knows the main distinction between the good and evil. The evil has no power to write itself as the good in the history.
People always killing each other and calling enemy as the bad to brainwashs people to support them. And it will be until last human. Believing in good/evil concept it's foolish. The "terror" in your mind are equal as the evil, is it? Read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror and USSR was legit state. Why? They are won. This is how the world works. Dead people can't talk to protect their position.
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Both ISIS & KKK like Trump for obvious reasons. KKK because Trump shares the same mindset and ISIS because by hating on perfectly normal Muslims in particular, he's helping ISIS to convince their local population that each and every single entity in west hates them.
It'd be ridiculous to say that these Presidents are "elected". I'd say they're selected. All Presidents of USA in the past 20-30 years have directly/indirectly started wars. Bill Clinton’s “quiet war†on Iraq set the stage for George W. Bush’s bloody invasion. Obama's administration funded "moderate rebels" which later turned into ISIS with shitload of resources and training they acquired during their "moderate rebels" time period.
Anyone with common sense and a little knowledge of history can easily predict how rapidly the world's political scenario is changing. We are headed towards the World War 3 and at this particular moment which is undoubtedly one of the most sensitive in humanity's modern history, Donald Trump has been brought into authority and power, just so they can achieve their bloody objectives. The worst among people are being elected their leaders. Is this not enough to perplex and worry any sane person?
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The American nation has chosen Trump; does that mean that the 50+ million people that have voted for him are KKK supporters and Muslim haters? No - instead of talking conspiratist horsestuff with no factual evidence let's wait and see if Trump will really start WW3 just like you say he will.
And if you want change, then go out on the streets; talking in a game-forum won't fix anything.
undoubtedly one of the most sensitive moments in humanity's modern history
Anyone with common sense and a little knowledge of history
Trump wants better relations with Russia; two major superpowers liking each other? Good.
Even if you think the opposite then still this isn't even close; maybe you should read about the Cuban Missile Crisis or the 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident.
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Trump wants better relations with Russia
Trump also wants to grab women by the pussy. Do you volunteer to provide some?
The American nation has chosen Trump; does that mean that the 50+ million people that have voted for him are KKK supporters and Muslim haters? No - instead of talking conspiratist horsestuff with no factual evidence let's wait and see if Trump will really start WW3 just like you say he will.
Trump promotes intolerance, which leads to division, which leads to the frustration, which ultimately contributes to the formation of terrorist groups. How do I know? Because I come from a place which has gone through all of this. You've absolutely zero knowledge on this topic.
Alright, so it's okay for a racist, bigot, dumbass to rule the most important country on this planet, just because some of his followers "aren't like that"? Does this even makes any sense? You sound confused, go figure out yourself before sharing your twisted opinions online.
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Doesn't matter, he is elected by American majority and now you can't help it
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Trump also wants to grab women by the pussy. Do you volunteer to provide some?
that's about as good of an argument as is your skill ingame
no need to elaborate on that matter
Alright, so it's okay for a racist, bigot, dumbass to rule the most important country on this planet, just because some of his followers "aren't like that"? Does this even makes any sense? You sound confused, go figure out yourself before sharing your twisted opinions online.
i don't think you read properly
yes, it is okay because he was elected in a democratic way, chosen by 50+ million people and won the election in a fair way
on the other hand, i'd like you to prove he is racist and a bigot. use the things he said in his speeches with sources
i'm not even gonna consider the 'dumbass' thing seeing as he's a fucking millionaire he clearly is a smart person
Trump promotes intolerance
sure
maybe you should use your head a bit, because the shit he said about muslims was just for campaigning purposes - did you forget about the orlando shooting already?
if you actually think he's going to ban them from coming to the usa you are very wrong
You've absolutely zero knowledge on this topic.
i doubt that
what i don't doubt though is that you have 0 knowledge on USA politics which is further proven by you ignoring my last part of the reply
humanity is going away from world war 3 due to the election of trump who will make us-ru relations better unlike clinton who blamed russian government for many evils in this world
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Well I might as well drop in here again.
-Trump stated he'll improve relations in Russia in hopes of getting support for an invasion on Syria most likely.
-If they actually do establish good relations, how safe should I feel that there are 2 egoistic bastards holding 3/4 of the nuclear weapons in the world in their hands, dancing polka and singing kumbaya together? The only thing stopping people from using nuclear weapons is their fear of other people using nuclear weapons on them. That's called a deterrent.
-Trump being smart? The man went bankrupt 4 times already, one of the reasons including him investing millions into a weekly magazine, about himself. Speaking of which, why didn't coolboy run for president? He wins in an intelligence competition.
-Neither of you, nor do I know shit about US politics, so let's just wrap that part up
Okay to summarize,
-Krystianoo stop acting like the ultimate realist businessman tycoon fucking sir of notthingham, doesn't affect anything in any way.
-Madkiller stop acting like the ultimate moralist, I know you mean well but meh, that's just not how the world works. Not profitable
In the end vito said it best. That's how the world works, when things are unbalanced you add in the factor you need to balance it, and history won't be recalled by the dead.
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how safe should I feel that there are 2 egoistic bastards holding 3/4 of the nuclear weapons in the world in their hands, dancing polka and singing kumbaya together? The only thing stopping people from using nuclear weapons is their fear of other people using nuclear weapons on them. That's called a deterrent.
So it's bad when they're enemies, and it's bad when they're friends.
You should watch a movie called War Games from 1983.
There is no winner in nuclear wars, and there is no reason to use nuclear weapons - if a country uses one, another one will retaliate.
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Outside of that, I don't see why you should be more afraid of Trump than Clinton.
Clinton is the one that scared Iran with nuclear weapons and threatened China (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1981763/hillary-clinton-vowed-to-ring-china-with-missiles-over-north-korea-threat-wikileaks-emails-say/)
Trump being smart? The man went bankrupt 4 times already, one of the reasons including him investing millions into a weekly magazine, about himself.
You know Kanye West as well, right? I think he declared bankrupcy too, but he posts pictures of him bathing in cash and such on his instagram profile.
Here are some quotes from Trump about that as well:
Trump said "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt. … We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on The Apprentice. It's not personal. It's just business."
Because the businesses used Chapter 11 bankruptcy, they were allowed to operate while negotiations proceeded. Trump was quoted by Newsweek in 2011 saying, "I do play with the bankruptcy laws – they’re very good for me" as a tool for trimming debt.
Not to mention he was ranked 156th wealthiest person of the USA in 2016 by Forbes and 324th in the world, bla-bla-bla. Of course he's smart.
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I don't want to spend my time again in all this but what i have stated in my first post was everything going in news and around people. Still I'll try to answer what ever i can find coz i can't re-watch every single news to cut shot and show you.
Number of people including celebrities are moving to canada after his presidential victory.
1. that's total bullshit
2. even if they do, then usa won't have any worries about celebs like this going out (http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/20/madonna-promises-to-give-anyone-who-votes-for-hillary-clinton-a-blow-job-6203560/)
So, there were many of them who stated before that they will leave U.S if trump won which you can find here. (http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/celebs-who-said-theyd-leave-u-s-if-trump-won/). There are many of these type of news, you can search them. I don't wanna talk anything more on it. Like you said, it looks more bullshit coz it is never easy to leave country for such a reason.
There are tons of tweets you can read against trump
and there are tons of tweets against clinton as well, y'know the bad shit she has done too
obviously there are tons against clinton too, but i am talking more about those tweets posted after trump won, i saw few of those on news.
ISIL supporters are celebrating Trump’s victory as beginning of ‘the end of the American empire'
source? valid proof?
even if yes (which i doubt), then who gives a fuck about rats like isil anyway?
You can take a look at this. (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/isil-supporters-celebrate-trumps-victory-as-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-american-empire).
then who gives a fuck about rats like isil anyway?
Countries do.
yeah more strange is trump did so much negative campaign against American-African and 8% votes to trump are by American-African.
examples? (plz no sites like democracynow)
These stats are shown by cnn or some other news channel day after trump won. People were debating on these stats.
I don't say I am 100% correct or these sources or what ever news channels are showing us. You guys know how news channels works and all behind it. Still i just made a effort to give some answers on what you have asked. Come on guys trump has won and we can't revert it, just chill and let him lead.
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Trump also wants to grab women by the pussy. Do you volunteer to provide some?
that's about as good of an argument as is your skill ingame
no need to elaborate on that matter
Bringing in my skills of a 15 years old game while discussing politics sounds very valid as well. Try to come up with better arguments next time.
Also, your President Trump believes climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese people. Must say you idealize genius political folks.
on the other hand, i'd like you to prove he is racist and a bigot. use the things he said in his speeches with sources
Are you fucking kidding me.
“Let me ask you, have you even read the U.S. Constitution?†Khan asked Trump before pulling a copy of the document from his jacket pocket and holding it up. “I will gladly lend you my copy,†he declared.
Khan’s wife Ghazala Khan, who wears a Muslim head scarf, stood at his side during the speech but did not speak.
In response to the devastating speech, Trump seized on Ghazala Khan’s silence to insinuate that she was forbidden from speaking due to the couple’s Islamic faith.
"If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me,†Trump said in an interview with ABC News that first appeared on July 30.
In May, Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.
“He’s a Mexican,†Trump told CNN of Curiel. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.â€
“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,†House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.
When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people.
Workers at Trump’s casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey, have accused him of racism over the years. The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.
“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,†O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.â€
Like many racial instigators, Trump often answers accusations of bigotry by loudly protesting that he actually loves the group in question. But that’s just as uncomfortable to hear, because he’s still treating all the members of the group — all the individual human beings — as essentially the same and interchangeable. Language is telling, here: Virtually every time Trump mentions a minority group, he uses the definite article the, as in “the Hispanics,†“the Muslims†and “the blacks.â€
He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionateâ€
Trump’s racial incitement has already inspired hate crimes. Two brothers arrested in Boston last summer for beating up a homeless Latino man cited Trump’s anti-immigrant message when explaining why they did it.
“Donald Trump was right — all these illegals need to be deported,†one of the men reportedly told police officers.
Trump did not even bother to distance himself from them. Instead, he suggested that the men were well-intentioned and had simply gotten carried away.
“I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,†Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.â€
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.â€
and if all this material isn't enough just go here (https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4r2yxs/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is/?st=ivcx60bi&sh=fc7cb7fb) for another shitload of links to all the bullshit he has been saying.
then who gives a fuck about rats like isil anyway?
Did you just say that? You sound like someone with a negative IQ. ISIS is one of the biggest threats to world peace night now and you're like, "yeah whatever". Ask the innocents murdered, butchered, beheaded, burned alive every day in the middle east to know if they "give a fuck" about ISIS. Seriously, end of the argument. You're a waste of time.
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Look, the majority have spoken. Very few states voted against Donald Trump and it should now be clear to everyone what people of the United States want; They want change. It's funny to see mostly asians here complaining about this. Are you afraid of them canceling your Visa or something? They voted for Trump because of his policies, and you should properly read into them before tagging him a racist. The man cares deeply about his country and will do what he believes is best for America. It is what it is so stop complaining about it. This is democracy and the silent majority have spoken, much like we did ourselves earlier this year in the UK.
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Look, the majority have spoken. Very few states voted against Donald Trump and it should now be clear to everyone what people of the United States want; They want change. It's funny to see mostly asians here complaining about this. Are you afraid of them canceling your Visa or something? They voted for Trump because of his policies, and you should properly read into them before tagging him a racist. The man cares deeply about his country and will do what he believes is best for America. It is what it is so stop complaining about it. This is democracy and the silent majority have spoken, much like we did ourselves earlier this year in the UK.
We have had the worst possible leaders for decades, now it's probably USA's turn lol. I don't care whether he creates visa hurdles for people coming from a specific region, I'm concerned that he might start a war in the middle east, in one of our countries following the footsteps of his peers and this is what bugs me a lot.
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The war is already on-going in the middle east, the war on ISIS. This is going to continue, no matter who is in charge. Donald Trump's policies are more focused on national interest rather than foreign affairs.
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Look, the majority have spoken. Very few states voted against Donald Trump and it should now be clear to everyone what people of the United States want; They want change. It's funny to see mostly asians here complaining about this. Are you afraid of them canceling your Visa or something?
I guess only those are afraid who landed illegally, everyone else is at peace.
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R.I.P Earth
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Okay here's the thing about Trump and his leadership. I'm speaking from a point of view, of somebody that has lived in the United States, and currently reside in my home third world country depending directly on every person who migrates to support a family, with their remittances. This is seen like a downfall for the US empire.
His attitude is not the one of somebody that can persue that position(you've seen obamas transformation from 2008-2016). Trump talks about making america great again in cost of all of the people that support the american economy. He is selling hatred, on te contrary of what his political views stand for. For those who are not aware, Republicans are conservatives, all of their views are based on a religious point of view. He is the contrary to all of that. Yet, he is being utilized, he's just another puppet to put the blame on. He recently stated that Mexico and my country Honduras, are the worst for being the most influential countries for narcotics to land in the united states, therefore his solution is deport 2 millions of immigrants. Stating that all that we as latinos provide to the united states are criminals? That country was built under hardworking men and women from around the globe its economy depends on it, theres no such thing as being able to send all of those people home, because you'll see a downfall on its economy.
Many of the young people 18-25 age range voted for Clinton, she's not the best. Yet, it seemed like choosing from them she would be the best fit. Popular votes were given to Clinton, yet Trump won specific states that represented a good amount of electoral votes leading to his 270+ that made him the next POTUS.
Trump won, because he took advantage of his ego and selfishness. He won because he got the religious votes from the american society, and he won because he also got the vote of the racist half of them. There was a poll running around for both Clinton and Trump that showed 54% of the Americans voters were "Concerned" if either of them were at the WH.
All of this ideas of building the wall, kicking people out, spreading hatred, solidifyng economy is a huge curtain of smoke people. As soon as he won stocks went down, the mexican "pesos" fell horribly. He got what he wanted threating the minority, you thought america was a non-racist country, this is its answer to the world. He think he's doing what is right for his country, yet he has never been on the other side of the coin. Trump was born in a golden crib, he has not seen what real suffering is. The most is probably bankrupcy on his casinos. Its horrifying how can people trust this guy with the nuke codes. And the thing is that Democrats didnt win crap. You have a republican president, republicans majority on the white house, and majority of republicans as senators. They will support his ideas, and its no joke that if he does everything in his will to do all of this, they will fall. And all of the countries depending on them will to, the promising domino effect Trump sold to the millions of americans.
On the contrary, they should let him get to office first. If he's so good as his cockyness lets see how he can "Make America Great Again". Its all nonesense without even seeing him lead a country. America is great, because of immigrants of the world. Latinos, muslims, asians, europeans; they all buiilt that. Truth is americans wont do the jobs these people do on a daily basis.
Deomcrats are idiots, they had Bernie Sanders that could of easily beat Trump, yet they went for Clinton thinking she'll win with her ideals. What the world needs is peace, not hatred.
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Bringing in my skills of a 15 years old game while discussing politics sounds very valid as well. Try to come up with better arguments next time.
you insulted me, so i insulted you
Did you just say that? You sound like someone with a negative IQ. ISIS is one of the biggest threats to world peace night now and you're like, "yeah whatever". Ask the innocents murdered, butchered, beheaded, burned alive every day in the middle east to know if they "give a fuck" about ISIS. Seriously, end of the argument. You're a waste of time.
i did, but maybe i did mean isis's opinion..
isis's territory will probably be taken back soon and they'll go underground, which is unavoidable
isis has shown to all terrorist organizations in the world that it is pointless to fight openly, e.g take over territory, cities because it's only a matter of time until those territories are taken back
they will fight from the underground, and im afraid not much can be done about this, maybe there could be - if the military didn't say they're going to attack Mosul a week before they did, maybe then ISIL leaders wouldn't get out of the town (if they were there in the first place)
All of this ideas of building the wall, kicking people out, spreading hatred, solidifyng economy is a huge curtain of smoke people. As soon as he won stocks went down, the mexican "pesos" fell horribly.
it's a speculative market
people bet on clinton winning, some people bet on trump winning
those who bet on trump won, and those who bet on clinton lost so they are getting rid of their actions, they're selling, short-saving, they're leaving the market, it's normal behaviour
again, the us people have chosen and it's not going to change
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Thats true, it will be under their concious if shit happens!
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Congratulations
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Hey this looks like a good thread to bump.
Strange isn't it ?
Because people voted for him and now they don't want him.
I know that he didn't won by a huge lead but majority wins.
Despite popular opinion in this thread, the majority of voters lost.
And the current situation in the U.S. would be the tiniest bit more bearable if Trump and his party, having majority control of the legislature, could actually pass an agenda, but alas they're too incompetent to get past their own infighting to pass any significant bills.
And still they blame the minority party.
I'll see you all in another seven months when Mike Pence is president á–(ツ)á–Œ
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if Trump does get impeached (nope) I will donate all my money on LW & EC and release hacks & cheats & CLEO & asi mods & logs & your mom from asylum
edit: if not you give me beta tester rank thx
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Trump's not going to get impeached because his ego is too fragile to handle that. He'll resign before he is and give a speech in the process talking about all the ways he Madeâ„¢ Americaâ„¢ Greatâ„¢ Againâ„¢ and how he's going to take down the fake news mediaâ„¢ from the inside.
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The likelihood of a politically-predicated impeachment is almost nil right now, as Trump has crossed so many lines in terms of traditional Republican politics, and yet Republicans have a fairly unflinching support for him. He could literally take a piss on a statue of Reagan and Republicans would be on CNN within minutes defending it.
One of the problems is that the Republican top-brass will be blamed if Trump is impeached, as ever since November they have stood by him and let him get away with all his bullshit. If all of his bullshit finally gets the ultimate call-out, then Paul Ryan and the cadres will be left with their integrity in tatters. While they and their manbaby candidate still have power, their integrity holds on by a shoestring. The shoestring will snap if Trump is found to have acted criminally, at which point impeachment papers will finally be drawn.
Now six months in, I feel equally sanguine and demoralised at Trump's inability to be president. He is exactly as many of us predicted - stupid, petty, insecure, ignorant, inarticulate, arrogant and completely devoid of any sense of humour. I'm sanguine about the fact that these traits just don't graft on to running the USA, and so change in most areas is either slow or non-existent, as Trump bashes up against one barrier or another as a result of his inexperience (and inability to actually appoint staff). I disagree with you here Stormeus, because I think any amount of stalling his agenda is a good thing - it is testament to how badly thought out the agenda is. The flip side of this of course is that some of his agenda does make it through, and most of it is horrific. His withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement, his exaltations at the feet of Saudi war criminals, his attack on US international aid and domestic women's sexual and reproductive health assistance is all indefensible. Not to mention his attack on the very pillars of American democracy, the institutions that allow for a discernment between truth and fact, that are supposed to hold the executive to account, that are supposed to afford people an honest and informed participation in the political process, he is a disaster.
Mike Pence would also be a dangerous president, not least because of the way he lets his deeply traditional religious views guide his politics, but he would be better than Trump.
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Well if it comforts you, our bitch president asslicked him for a week anyway. Wonder if trump grabbed her by the pussy.
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As did our Prime Minister. It's embarrassing.