As for the people that see benefit in banning people like NO_MERCY off of servers - I do not classify this as exemplary behavior either. The more you fight fire with fire, the larger the fire becomes. It is a vicious circle that I see no end in.

Yes! It's the servers who are in the wrong for banning a cheater and a ban evader. How dare they!? ? 

Alright, jokes aside now, I understand the approach you're trying to take morphine, and it would be the correct approach IF we did not know how he is evading. But that's not the case. It's not like we don't know how he is evading. Any competent server developer with a decent understanding of a server-client model knows pretty damn well how it can be done. VCMP devs know about it too. But here's the thing: Just because we know how it's done, that doesn't mean that there's a 100% full proof viable solution to it. There's certain compromises you have to make to "solve" this issue. I've made mine and I believe it will solve most cases.

That "talent" you see is not there. He's not the first to evade like this and he certainly won't be the last. He was simply helped by someone who actually has a clear understanding of how things work on a more technical level. Once 1 person finds out, he can simply pass on the information and the others will simply follow the instructions. I'd hardly call following instructions "talent".

With that said, there is no anti-cheat protection that is perfect in any game. That's just the nature of things. As I said there's certain compromises you have to make here and there, but people still seem to think that the concept of "perfect anti-cheat protection" is real. It's not. Not in VCMP and not in any other game. We should atleast be thankful that 0.4 has any anti-cheat at all. 0.3 didn't really have much, if any.

WTF dudes, hey MK guys!!! We are having a match tomorrow in CTF 5 server (VU_T/R vs MD). I cant register on your forum because it asks "what year is it?" and it fails my test when I write 2017. Seriously?

We will need to password shutdown the server at 15:00 GMT. Please let me know if its feasible ASAP! Hope someone reads it and reply here!

Alright I've fixed the question, now the answer is 2017.

What do you mean with "password shutdown" ? You mean locking the server with a password? We always do that, we just announce the password on public forums for spectators to join, but if you don't want spectators in your match that is fine too, we just won't announce the server password publicly. Just make sure to tell that to the staff members who are going to be handling your CW and it should be fine.

About your suggestions, thanks for taking the time to write those down I agree with some of those and not so much with others. I could go into more detail, but unfortunately don't have the time to do so atm. I'll be keeping an eye on this topic regardless.

Eddy showed me one place on the Damn roofers arena that had a gap between some fences. This is fixed now, another fence was added and cannot be jumped over.

I looked around for some more gaps but didn't find any.

Quote from: GangstaRas on June 29, 2017, 05:39:33 pm

There was one spawn bug though that manifested itself. We loaded up I believe it was Vercetti Fields mid match and I was spawned way out of base. By my guess, I believe I took on the spawnpoint of the map Motel Fury as it corresponded well with the side that is to the beach. It only happened once and to me only I think of the 25+ maps I checked that day.

If you are saying that during Vercetti Fields you spawned in Ocean Beach in the 'hotels' section, I had the same issue on Vercetti Fields map.

This is fixed now. Let me know if there's any other bad spawnpoints on other arenas.

Another bug I did notice was the auto-start voting system. The voting options disappear after a period of time with no way of re-activating it unless an admin comes in the server, disables then re-enables the autostart function. So no non-admin can start a match and play on the server in their own time as a result. That needs to be dealt with.

This is actually how it works on CTF4.0 aswell, the only difference is that the script spams the staff channel with a warning when this happens and usually someone on the staff channel uses the IRC command to re-enable autostart. I haven't added this warning to the CTF5.0 IRC bot though, In the future I'm going to change it so that whenever admins leave the server the autostart function will be automatically enabled.

Quote from: NewK on June 27, 2017, 01:32:33 am

Quote from: GangstaRas on June 26, 2017, 07:28:43 pm

Since the script has spawning issues when flipping sides between teams

Did this happen again during this last multi clan match?

I remember fixing this bug months ago and I just tested it right now and couldn't reproduce it. You sure this is still happening? If so, do you remember on which arena this happened?

Well yeah we had issues but no it wasn't the issue of spawning that was present in the TRC vs VU match way back. I believe the command just flat out didn't work. Skycrappers was one example where we had to kill ourselves and switch sides as a result.

Do you know if the staff member tried to use the command while the round was in progress? Or did he used it before the round started from the lobby? The command has to be used while on the lobby, doesn't work while the round is in progress

I am not fully aware of "these recent posting trends" you're refering to, but those who get banned will always complain regardless of whatever changes you guys decide to make now, so don't expect to receive any constructive criticism from  their side. If you're talking about imposing general forum wide rules to prevent the scenarios which you described, I don't think that will work because the type of people that engage in these sort of behaviours will not be held back by a simple rulebook, but I guess it's worth a shot anyway since it will atleast bring awareness to the fact that those issues exist and that such behaviours will not be accepted.

I believe the "issue" here that this forum is such a big community hub for matters not directly related to VU, that people tend to forget that this is infact a clan forum and expect the forum administration to be lenient in most cases. Although, I am of the opinion that VU could and should have a say about what they allow in their own forums.

That way I see it, anything that helps reduce the toxicity in the community is a good thing.

Thanks everyone

No exception NewK, he shared same hacks, mousefix, f1, wsfix. he claimed himself in pics using "wsf"

I'm capable of drawing my own conclusions, tyvm.

Can someone clarify what exactly is Mousefix? Is that the same tool I talked about ? Or something different?