[ON] clan - a bunch of cheaters?

[KakaroT]

btw, moment of silence for those, who are intending to use wall hack and fps hack. Those hacks have disadvantage of using them, when they are injected/used for a while, they interacts with your mouse and you are then unable to aim (at almost all of the places in game). Your mouse is shaking until you turn them off. *cheers*

[Deadmau5]

[Thomas]

btw, moment of silence who are intending to use wall hack and fps hack. Those hacks have disadvantage of using them, when they are injected/used for a while, they interacts with your mouse and you are then unable to aim (at almost all of the places in game). Your mouse is shaking until you turn them off. *cheers*

This means you're well experienced, given the fact that you gave it many tries until you learned its defects.
Congratulations! you, yourself indirectly admitted that you have been using hacks for long time in servers.
Save your dignity, well what's left of it, and stop exploiting yourself and your clan.
P.S:

-rekt-

[Roystang]

What I mean is,ON CLAN isn't the only one having these hacks.
These stuff was also shared to some other guys(according to KxZ' distribution),for example chernobyl , or 'KF' clan (Tom can provide proof)
What matters is,if these hacks at least WON'T be blocked,then the others will freely use them in Deathmatch gamemode, and if so,they can use these with bit of 'intelligence'.

I apologize for everything that's public,hacks created by 'our clan' , and mostly for the inability to control ON members' willing of 'use these hacks' and providing links to them,
anyway, Stormeus,why didn't you even care when Tom sent all this stuff to you, never gave any bit of  time for looking at it and blocking it?

Kindly provide the proofs, and don't post useless craps about KF, just to save yourself, everyone knows who is the asslicker cheater here.
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You can ask Tom for proofs, as I mentioned above.
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[KakaroT]

This means you're well experienced, given the fact that you gave it many tries until you learned its defects.
Congratulations! you, yourself indirectly admitted that you have been using hacks for long time in servers.
Save your dignity, well what's left of it, and stop exploiting yourself and your clan.
P.S:

-rekt-

You don't need multiple tries to find its defect. If you just used it for a while there you go. Indeed having much experience with hacks, even re-opning hacks don't fix anything once it starts interacting you can't stop. Last time I used those hacks were in ON server testing them and that was the only time I used. (since no one will believe it, they are going to claim I used them in public servers lol )

[stormeus]

Last time I used those hacks were in ON server testing them and that was the only time I used. (since no one will believe it, they are going to claim I used them in public servers lol )

To be fair, you lost all credibility when as a clan admin, you couldn't even prevent your members from using and sharing them, or kick them for doing so.

[KakaroT]

To be fair, you lost all credibility when as a clan admin, you couldn't even prevent your members from using and sharing them, or kick them for doing so.

Well I tried, we kicked kxz for using hacks. And in rage he spread hacks. That's when we reported you and sent you all hacks to block them and waited for update that will block those hacks but there wasn't single news about it. And then we ended up here.

[stormeus]

To be fair, you lost all credibility when as a clan admin, you couldn't even prevent your members from using and sharing them, or kick them for doing so.

Well I tried, we kicked kxz for using hacks. And in rage he spread hacks. That's when we reported you and sent you all hacks to block them and waited for update that will block those hacks but there wasn't single news about it. And then we ended up here.

If it so happens that 1/2 of VCMP players can't connect when you're done, don't look at it as something to roll back, look at it as there's more hackers in VCMP than we know.

[...] what Stormeus was referring to was that the fixes interfered with normal, legitimate elements of the game, somehow affecting a huge number of people unexpectedly.

Believe it or not the WinAPI doesn't have a "TurnOffASI" function. The types of workarounds that would almost completely block ASIs from loading would also break the networking layer for half the player base and make them unable to connect to any server, regardless of whether or not they were hacking. The reason I didn't respond to your particular suggestion was because it was already tried and failed as such.

[HunTinG]

To be fair, you lost all credibility when as a clan admin, you couldn't even prevent your members from using and sharing them, or kick them for doing so.

Well I tried, we kicked kxz for using hacks. And in rage he spread hacks. That's when we reported you and sent you all hacks to block them and waited for update that will block those hacks but there wasn't single news about it. And then we ended up here.

If it so happens that 1/2 of VCMP players can't connect when you're done, don't look at it as something to roll back, look at it as there's more hackers in VCMP than we know.

[...] what Stormeus was referring to was that the fixes interfered with normal, legitimate elements of the game, somehow affecting a huge number of people unexpectedly.

Believe it or not the WinAPI doesn't have a "TurnOffASI" function. The types of workarounds that would almost completely block ASIs from loading would also break the networking layer for half the player base and make them unable to connect to any server, regardless of whether or not they were hacking. The reason I didn't respond to your particular suggestion was because it was already tried and failed as such.

And for this it was intended to extinct the drama,when yourself,as VCMP developer,couldn't stop the hack spreading, how could we?
It was a misunderstanding on what happen,lol.
Maybe yes, there's been an incident that brought hacks to VC-MP era.I think the only solution is to... (read PM)

[stormeus]

And for this it was intended to extinct the drama,when yourself,as VCMP developer,couldn't stop the hack spreading, how could we?

Easy, if you're aware that people are spreading hacks in your clan in some way you start investigating. You can go ahead and make that claim when you've written a C++ library that reliably stops DLL injection on a Windows system without breaking anything. I'm confident you won't because that's operating system behavior that can't just be turned off by an app.

[Sean]

And for this it was intended to extinct the drama,when yourself,as VCMP developer,couldn't stop the hack spreading, how could we?
It was a misunderstanding on what happen,lol.
Maybe yes, there's been an incident that brought hacks to VC-MP era.I think the only solution is to... (read PM)

If you cant fix it, then why share? Especially to players who are prone to this stuff? It's like letting your daughter stay at a BDSM porn studio hoping no one will touch her. It's clear the main guys behind the spreading of hacks are ON clan members.

IMO, strict actions should be taken.

[Thomas]

This means you're well experienced, given the fact that you gave it many tries until you learned its defects.
Congratulations! you, yourself indirectly admitted that you have been using hacks for long time in servers.
Save your dignity, well what's left of it, and stop exploiting yourself and your clan.
P.S:

-rekt-

You don't need multiple tries to find its defect. If you just used it for a while there you go. Indeed having much experience with hacks, even re-opning hacks don't fix anything once it starts interacting you can't stop. Last time I used those hacks were in ON server testing them and that was the only time I used. (since no one will believe it, they are going to claim I used them in public servers lol )

Alright, lets suppose you were working on hacks in your own private server, the question arises: why in first place would you be testing an "HACK"? if you did not intend to distribute it or use it officially? it seems alot of waste of time. if for "FUN purposes", why not play with your clan mates in the regular server in a regular way.
Secondly, you are well aware how plague spreads, so before distributing why didn't you put a check on it ( Like Murdock's VCA to work only on VCA enabled servers) to work only in ON server, you know that a client can provide function call back to servers if you made hacks or took it from someone, if you didn't had any access to source code, why didn't you stop dead or even expose yourself to your clanmates about being involved in using hack for 'TESTING' purpose? yes if it were only with your best friends it would be ok considering that they won't stab you in the back (unfortunately which they did ) but providing hacks to trainees and noobs, thats too stupid don't you think? giving hacks in the gaming community is a major crime and it should be dealt with.

[HunTinG]

Experimental incident.
What else could be said? It's clear that the theory of disloyal members is the only cause that brought us here, blame isn't enough to stop the hack spreading.
Everybody knows his fault ,but...


OFF-TOPIC

I wonder, now that we're finally on sights of VCMP,where was all 'sighting' when ON was on top of European (before all this 'hack spreading' ) ?
Are we really THAT hated that NONE appreciates every step of us? Is that really so because you want us out of this community for .. for what? ? ?
You're all been children,rofl, and it was worse than this , I can add,if that's the reason of all this HATING of others towards ON clan,


stop this grudge against us, it's really getting annoying.

[Dr.Shawn]

btw, moment of silence for those, who are intending to use wall hack and fps hack. Those hacks have disadvantage of using them, when they are injected/used for a while, they interacts with your mouse and you are then unable to aim (at almost all of the places in game). Your mouse is shaking until you turn them off. *cheers*

you idiot, this sounds totally same as if I'm glitching in 0.3 with laser sniper

[KakaroT]

Alright, lets suppose you were working on hacks in your own private server, the question arises: why in first place would you be testing an "HACK"? if you did not intend to distribute it or use it officially? it seems alot of waste of time. if for "FUN purposes", why not play with your clan mates in the regular server in a regular way.

then does it mean stormeus use aimbot?

again

(since no one will believe it, they are going to claim I used them in public servers lol )

If you don't understand go on replying to this, won't be debated by me anymore.