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Archive => Vice War Summer 2011 => Archived Events => Admin Reports => Topic started by: NicoArin on August 14, 2011, 04:02:31 am
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During the war i recived many reports from different players. They told me that kevinsito was abusing a lot and they send me some images and logs.
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** [DZ^]Rodrigo2 [3] killed ULK.Kevinsito [5] (Stubby) (Right Arm)
[19:28] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito banned [STK]SpeedyX. Reason: none
Why is kevin kicking for ping? I though we had auto ping kicker ...
12Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [DZ^]Rodrigo. Reason: ping
12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [DZ^]Rodrigo. Reason: yeah I saw your ping 500+
12Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [DZ^]Rodrigo. Reason: fix your lag
To be sure, i joined with other nickname and starting saying things like "kevin gay" when i was killed by him.
Right after that i was banned by him.
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Nico if u dont mind then listen me that dont kill me:d was abusing him and sliding alot thats why he got bann and kick ;D
Regards
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Nico if u dont mind then listen me that dont kill me:d was abusing him and sliding alot thats why he got bann and kick ;D
Regards
i never slide, dont lie please, he banned me because i called him "lagger", "admin abuser"
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sorry nilz i am not telling about yo >:(
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yeah he kicked me after i killed him reason:fix your lag lol and in vice war 1 he kicked a player for no reason also
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maybe he kicked them because they are not registered
http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?topic=1851.0
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Hey what's up guys well just. . . .
I don't consider an unfair kick for sliding, or rocket glitching, and massively lagging, right terrorist and some others? unfair ban from the event to nilz, and nico for trolling me with nilz's nick well I would only consider nico's ban as my mistake about nilz's ban I would never consider it unfair, after all the times he was sliding, his massive lag, and horrible insult against my person ( I guess on my video log is when he was sliding I will look for it there are 65GB of video on my HD).
I would consider this thread: Totally Pathetic, I was the only admin online when the event was about to finish, so who would take most of blue lagging with 400+ pings I don't see the "unfair" point for the kicks, I only see the unfair point for banning nico, and if you feel hurt or insulted by it I'm so sorry for you and your thought :)
Any comment is welcome.
Edit: And the most important thing I would liek to add, I expect pathetic comments and a big bullshit drama about me, I would like to personally talk with charley about this since he is the main brain of the event.
PS: You guys are reporting me, I should have reported you all for spamming the vice war echo :)
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PS: You guys are reporting me, I should have reported you all for spamming the vice war echo :)
But you didn`t, so now please shut up.
I was the only admin online when the event was about to finish, so who would take most of blue lagging with 400+ pings.
That is not your job, we have auto ping kick system for that.
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so I'm not able to tlak and defend myself? good mister :)
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[06:48] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 * Admin Kevin kicked:[ [DZ^]tmavs4 ] Reason:[ go fuck anywhere else please ]
[06:48] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 3** [5] [DZ^]tmavs4 left the server. (Kicked - go fuck anywhere else please)heh
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so I'm not able to tlak and defend myself? good mister :)
I`m just telling you to stop saying unnecessary things.
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The auto ping kicker was failing ... just telling, kicking rodrigo was legit. His ping was hanging around 600.
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Post removed, please back up accusations with evidence. You are not helping anyone. - Charley
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The auto ping kicker was failing ... just telling, kicking rodrigo was legit. His ping was hanging around 600.
If kicking rodrigo was legit, the whole [AsS] Clan should have been kicked with all the other red laggers and they weren't. As i said ingame they had really heavy lagg, and when i asked why wouldn't they be kicked and blue players would, i never got a serious response from any admin, and some admins didn't even said anything. I remember kevin and some other admins kicked nearly all LBR's until they were completely extinct. But most of the red laggers were still there.
Im not saying that all admins acted like this, but some did.
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I am hearing complaints from red team members even... I guess kevin has some explaining to do..
for future vice wars I propose a new rule that we actually work to enforce:
no whining, no complaining, and no admin actions without a fraps video and report to match
of course there would need to be some specifications for the admin part of that.. but I think you guys can understand what I'm getting at
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During the war i recived many reports from different players. They told me that kevinsito was abusing a lot and they send me some images and logs.
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** [DZ^]Rodrigo2 [3] killed ULK.Kevinsito [5] (Stubby) (Right Arm)
[19:28] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito banned [STK]SpeedyX. Reason: none
Why is kevin kicking for ping? I though we had auto ping kicker ...
12Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [DZ^]Rodrigo. Reason: ping
12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [DZ^]Rodrigo. Reason: yeah I saw your ping 500+
12Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [DZ^]Rodrigo. Reason: fix your lag
To be sure, i joined with other nickname and starting saying things like "kevin gay" when i was killed by him.
Right after that i was banned by him.
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THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN BLUE TEAM? HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THE PASSWORD?
yep red admins were mostly concerned with blue team laggers..
ohwait, out of all staff, two are in blue, and both of them haven't played.. :d
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One of the main things here i'd like to point out is that there where a handful of other admins online during the time Kevin was on. But most of them wouldn't repeatedly kick players because they killed him and he decided they had morrid lag and where to be surely kicked. Seriously i could understand where the blue team was coming from. They had little to no response from most admins when they asked the specific reasons of a kick. You can pinpoint alot of shit on Kevin, no doubt. There where legitimately players with almost unplayable lag, but kicking all of LBR (lmao) isn't really reasonable. Maybe for future events the ping limit should go down a bit for the sake of arguing.
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THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN BLUE TEAM? HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THE PASSWORD?
LOOOOOOOL
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ohwait, out of all staff, two are in blue, and both of them haven't played.. :d
this, and how we are suppose to check our own team? Join blue or teamattack? Also the server had been lagging a lot (like prev. vice war) till afaik 10-9 hours left to the end, then it was fixed so whining about lags of non-LBR's before this point was normal, past it some peeps still were bitching and repeating the same sentence about "ban him or them for lags" every fucking 20 seconds while they really didn't fight those laggers after the fix (who even before fix could be killed anyway) while several LBRs were almost immortal, walking near a pickup (or running circles in a hangar) and holding a fire from 10 peeps during 1-2 minutes. If you guys want a good multiplayer without glitches, bugs, lags and other bullshit there are plenty other games with build-in mp, vc-mp is yet one of the shittest made from technical side.
P.S. you can't blame people for lag (if they didn't force it ofc.), but you always can for glitches :)
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Wherever the fault lies, I just want to point out that I'm kinda fucking annoyed at how the two Vice Wars produced in anyway of bad admin-ship.
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ohwait, out of all staff, two are in blue, and both of them haven't played.. :d
this, and how we are suppose to check our own team?
You can check them by simply looking at them and see them lagging and warping like hell, i fought a couple of red laggers before the "the fix" and after and they were same, also i don't know what's this fix you talk about i didn't lagged the whole the whole time. So yea even if red admins couldn't check their own team, that's why blue players were reporting and still our reports were being ignored.
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Admins do not have eyes everywhere, they also can't spend their entire time looking out for laggers on both teams.
I only kick/ban people for lagging if I personally fight them and they are impossible to hit down, when I know for certain that I've got a normally valid shot on them at least 3 or 4 times. I could not make these judgements on my own team, as I would have to be fighting them for a good 30 seconds. I didn't fight my own team at all, let alone for 30 seconds. The real problem in the lag kicks was not that red admins were abusing, it was that there was a serious deficit of blue admins to clean up our laggers. That is not our fault.
As for any other type of lag kick, it should only be if people's ping exceeds 400. The auto-ping kicker is only called when a player spawns, so it is possible for players to have a ping low spike and avoid the auto, in which case it's the admins job to manually remove them.
As for Kevin, did he really kick all of LBR? I want some evidence on that accusation before I move any further with this report.
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[06:48] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 * Admin Kevin kicked:[ [DZ^]tmavs4 ] Reason:[ go fuck anywhere else please ]
[06:48] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 3** [5] [DZ^]tmavs4 left the server. (Kicked - go fuck anywhere else please)heh
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seriously though why .-.
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[00:48] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [MK]Zer0K. Reason: horrible warp
[00:49] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [LBR]Rockz.. Reason: horrible lag
he kicked me and [LBR]Rockz at the same time.
anyways dont try to hide him self accept that u do wrong and abuse your powers. all r saying that not only one or two players r reporting about u.
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The auto ping kicker was failing ... just telling, kicking rodrigo was legit. His ping was hanging around 600.
<jaajjaa, insert a complaint here, another one, and another one>
/c report
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Cutton i know that the red admins don't fight their teamates to find out if they lagg, that's why we(blue players) were reporting the red laggers but we were all ignored.
Now for the proofs of kevinsito's kicking rampage:
[07:33] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked (LBR)GUANGUE7. Reason: ping
[18:25] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [LBR]Rockz.. Reason: horrible lag
[19:17] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [LBR]Rockz.. Reason: horrible lag
[19:48] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked (LBR_T)Anta171. Reason: horrible lag
[19:54] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [LBR]Rockz.. Reason: you gotta fix that lag
[19:59] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked (LBR_T)Anta171. Reason:
terrible lag
[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [LBR]Rockz.. Reason: horrible
lag
[21:07] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [LBR]Rockz.. Reason: ping/lag/warp
[02:35] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked (LBR)EDERSON. Reason: lag
These following kicks only happened whenever kevinsito was killed, have a look:
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 12 LK.Neji2 [16]14 killed 4 ULK.Kevinsito2 [9]4 (Flamethrower) (Body)
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 4** LK.Neji died.
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 [DZ]B scored a defensive 4 point kill.
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 12 [DZ]B2 [44]14 killed 4 [VU_R]XGamer1002 [7]4 (Stubby) (Body)
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 4 *USA*WachiiTurr02 [24]14 killed 12
Lance_Wilson2 [0]4 (Stubby) (Right Leg)
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 12 [DZ^]Rodrigo2 [8]14 killed 4 *USA*Man_Fart2 [15]4 (M60) (Head)
[19:04] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked LK.Neji. Reason: lag[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 12 [MK]Zer0K2 [10]14 killed 4 ULK.Kevinsito2 [12]4 (Stubby) (Left Leg)
[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7** [VU_R]Inferno sprints away!
[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 4** TKz.DriikZ died.
[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Time Remaining: 8 hours, 10 minutes and 55 seconds.
[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Blue: 106474 Red: 12724
[20:50] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked [MK]Zer0K. Reason: horrible warp
This one is quite interesting too:
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 12 [DZ^]darkSider2 [0]14 killed 4 ULK.Kevin2 [15]4 (Spaz) (Torso)
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[15] ULK.Kevin: 14 grrr
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[16] TLKr.Manas: 14 fuck the dead man
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ULK.HeAD scored a defensive 3 point kill.
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 ** 4 ULK.HeAD2 [27]14 killed 12 [MK]NewK2 [31]4 (M60) (Torso)
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[15] ULK.Kevin: 14 I will kick that guy once I get my level
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[15] ULK.Kevin: 14 if I get it
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[21] UJIbU4.: 14 nice
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Time Remaining: 21 hours, 39 minutes and 36 seconds.
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Blue: 13104 Red: 1444
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[15] ULK.Kevin: 14 and people will sya
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[19] TLK.Ajeet: 14 ye some of them are pausing the game
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Reds failed to attack the blue base.
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[19] TLK.Ajeet: 14 bastards
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[15] ULK.Kevin: 14 no you abuse
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 4** [TZ]Nilz died.
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[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[26] [DUr]Evil_Knight: 14 my stats es 10 kills 20 deaths D
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[2] [AsS]Icarus: 14 88
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[21] UJIbU4.: 14 but give a fuck
[07:21] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 7[15] ULK.Kevin: 14 then I will really abuse!
And this one is just plain admin abuse without even questioning, if he was idling i would've understand but that's not what the ban "reason" says:
[03:43] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked tmavs4. Reason: slot reserved to new comers
Seriously wtf....
PS: Marcell fix your quote lol, i never said "Jajajaj complaint, another complaint, jajaja whining" ._.
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lol
have you even saw those LBR guys? they were literally sprinting/standing in our base pickup, without losing any HP from 10 guys with M60s (no im not over-exxegegera ffffffff, exaggareatin....whatever you spell it like lol) and no, they weren't AFKing, it was like they were totally desynched from the server, other's shots did nothing to them and they didn't had epic warp or something as well.
in next vicewar (if there will be a one) just apply for admins too instead of 'LOL LETS LEAVE THIZ SHITTY EVENT COZ ALL ADMINS ARE FROM RED ADMIN ABUSE!!!!!' I agree Kevin went too far with kicking laggers, if you ask me, in next VW we gotta have auto-kick for lower ping than current auto-kick, and leave the admin-kicks-for-lag only to certain HARDCORE situations (when someone has epic lag and his ping ain't that big)
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aha! So it was Kevin, not the WHOLE administration. Seriously, the way you were reporting in-game looked like everyone in the adminstration was abusive. "Oh I shouldn't have trusted VU, they are always giving us bad administration." <- Seriously this was annoying as fuck and I was pissed off. Apply for fuck's sake. And lets see if that happens again.
I know I didn't kick some red laggers, because I couldn't really see (as Charley pointed out) and I didn't want to make an unfair kick. Everyone I kicked from the blue team WERE LAGGING LIKE FUCK. And I only kicked LBR guys. Seriously, as Marcell mentioned it was impossible to shoot them.
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"Oh I shouldn't have trusted VU, they are always giving us bad administration."
When did i ever said that?
I told you already ingame that only some admins were abusing, not all.
man, I seriously don't understand why do you always think im talking about the whole administration. When i specifically said only some admins where abusing.
And marcell i believe you when you say those LBR guys lagged but those LBR guys are the equivalent of those [AsS] guys.
As for the admin apps i didn't apply because there was 26 admins already, it didn't crossed my mind that more admins were needed.
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The most annoying thing in VW2 is that admins kicked blues and didn't give a fuck about us blue who were reporting reds for their lag..
I am hearing complaints from red team members even... I guess kevin has some explaining to do..
for future vice wars I propose a new rule that we actually work to enforce:
no whining, no complaining, and no admin actions without a fraps video and report to match
of course there would need to be some specifications for the admin part of that.. but I think you guys can understand what I'm getting at
+1 agree with HeAD
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[03:43] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked tmavs4. Reason: slot reserved to new comers
When there was only about 20 - 25 players... I was just specing and the second i spawned, i was kicked.
And kicking players for high ping was in inadequate reasoning. Mainly everybody's ping was high on the server, some reaching from 200 to 537. Obviously we can't do nothing about that.. And what Knucis said.. maybe we don't want to become admin, because the main focus is lag & ping issues. People lag at certain spots like the bases, where most of the dm gameplay was going on. Some peoples fps would be around 12 when entering red base or Prawn Island, which causes them to warp or morbid lag. You'd actually think its worth kicking repetitively or banning... Just let them play..
All I'm saying is that next time we have a Vice War, accept players who don't make a big fuss about this or that, because you know many random players are going to report ''that'' admin.. This is mainly the reason why this war wasn't so interesting.
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If kicking rodrigo was legit, the whole [AsS] Clan should have been kicked with all the other red laggers and they weren't. As i said ingame they had really heavy lagg, and when i asked why wouldn't they be kicked and blue players would, i never got a serious response from any admin, and some admins didn't even said anything.
I think it's pretty disgusting how some people in the blue team think they have the right to whine about how "red admins" weren't kicking "blue players" and shouting "ZOMG ABOOSE I TELL CUTTON ON YOU" when they didn't make a single fucking report. You see someone lagging morbidly or breaking the rules? /c report, don't whine about "OH ADMIN DIDN'T SEE LAGGER BUT IT'S THEIR FAULT FOR NOT KICKING ANYWAYS"
Most of the time when I got a report, I even went so far as using /kill and spectating the person in question. And guess what? I'd say about... 4 blue team players were actually reporting, while the others complaining didn't even make the administration aware of any problems.
If you wanted to accuse the entire administration of abusing when you didn't do jack shit, without telling us about the problem, let alone even give us a name or ID to check out, then honestly, I feel you should've been banned from the event.
Did I? no. inb4 "ABUSER"
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About lag part (=/=ping), man this goddamned vcmp habitats about 80% of them, so just forget this rule unless ONE is LAGGING EXTREMELY of EXTREMELY. Adding to that, sometimes host is alone an issue of all of that.
and yeah you guys need to "fight" before you can summarize that guy has lag, and mostly admins are "red" so red have to fight the blues, simple you're just looking into one side, i am not saying that everyone was into this, but yeah blue were mostly affected from this.
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Post removed, user banned from posting for 2 weeks. Potential ban from next event pending.
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About lag part (=/=ping), man this goddamned vcmp habitats about 80% of them, so just forget this rule unless ONE is LAGGING EXTREMELY of EXTREMELY. Adding to that, sometimes host is alone an issue of all of that.
and yeah you guys need to "fight" before you can summarize that guy has lag, and mostly admins are "red" so red have to fight the blues, simple you're just looking into one side, i am not saying that everyone was into this, but yeah blue were mostly affected from this.
thats true they really didn't give a fuck about blue team they keept kicking us for lag , and they forgot that also reds are full of laggers and now they come here to say "OH NONONO ITS OUR FAULT" yes it is your fault an admin shouldn't make difference between anyone..compared with the last VW this is a shit .
Red weren't full of laggers, nor blues were, the point is only blue's were getting kicked, i guess we probably got outnumbered too(?)
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[03:43] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked tmavs4. Reason: slot reserved to new comers
When there was only about 20 - 25 players... I was just specing and the second i spawned, i was kicked.
btw if you spectate for more than 15 secs you got kicked, also you might spawn at the moment the kick cmd was entered, once happen to me.
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[03:43] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked tmavs4. Reason: slot reserved to new comers
When there was only about 20 - 25 players... I was just specing and the second i spawned, i was kicked.
btw if you spectate for more than 15 secs you got kicked, also you might spawn at the moment the kick cmd was entered, once happen to me.
heh, them whom was he kicking? :P
it's a straight kick, not bug.
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If kicking rodrigo was legit, the whole [AsS] Clan should have been kicked with all the other red laggers and they weren't. As i said ingame they had really heavy lagg, and when i asked why wouldn't they be kicked and blue players would, i never got a serious response from any admin, and some admins didn't even said anything.
I think it's pretty disgusting how some people in the blue team think they have the right to whine about how "red admins" weren't kicking "blue players" and shouting "ZOMG ABOOSE I TELL CUTTON ON YOU" when they didn't make a single fucking report. You see someone lagging morbidly or breaking the rules? /c report, don't whine about "OH ADMIN DIDN'T SEE LAGGER BUT IT'S THEIR FAULT FOR NOT KICKING ANYWAYS"
Most of the time when I got a report, I even went so far as using /kill and spectating the person in question. And guess what? I'd say about... 4 blue team players were actually reporting, while the others complaining didn't even make the administration aware of any problems.
If you wanted to accuse the entire administration of abusing when you didn't do jack shit, without telling us about the problem, let alone even give us a name or ID to check out, then honestly, I feel you should've been banned from the event.
Did I? no. inb4 "ABUSER"
Bo-oh give me a fucking break, even tough we didn't /c report sometimes, we CONSTANTLY said it on the chatbox about the stuff that was bothering us. And don't fucking say you didn't saw it, you were even replying with quotes such as "stop making excuses", "stop crying", "stop whinning".....way to go huh? Admins acting like this, ignoring players....
And it's not like you need people to /c report to act as an admin, i guess if a cheater was playing and we say about it on the chatbox you wouldn't do anything about it because no /c report was used....ffs you just chosed not to give a fuck about what we were saying and you kept barking stuff like "stop making excuses", "stop crying", "stop whinning".
And yes i gave names about ppl who were lagging like hell i just didn't used /c report because /c report i mainly to report stuff that is against the rules and lagging like hell is not on the rules topic. And like i said before i didn't accuse the entire administration, so stop making shit up and read my last post, i only accused some admins like you and Kevinsito because you were both kicking some people for retarded reasons, lmao you even kicked someone for camping.......i don't know which game you came out of or how many time you have been playing vcmp but kicking someone for camping in vcmp is just fucking ridiculous.
Once again: I did not accused the entire administration i only accused some admins (mainly you and Kevin) for kicking people for stupid reasons.
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[03:43] <@ViceWar-Bots> 12 Admin ULK.Kevinsito kicked tmavs4. Reason: slot reserved to new comers
Accepted, demoted.