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Vice Underdogs Clan => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Charley on December 29, 2014, 04:22:12 pm

Title: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Charley on December 29, 2014, 04:22:12 pm
So tomorrow (the 30th) is our sixth anniversary. It's very strange for me thinking about the fact that six years have gone by since the clan was started; whilst it appears the mod and the number of active players is truly dwindling, the fact that anyone at all is left, to me, is a wonder.

I was trying to find the new VC:MP forum today, so I googled 'vcmp forum'. The VU forum came in as the seventh result. I don't know much about SEO, but I feel like this website is not particularly optimised. Instead of painstaking SEO, it has risen to the top, it seems, out of its sheer popularity. Taking a quick look at the stats, you can see that there are 59134 Posts in 4738 Topics by 1437 Members; and 6,166,814 pageviews. That is phenomenal. We could add considerably more onto that number too, if we take into account the posts made on the original forum, back when we held VCDC 1. (For anyone who doesn't know the story, our first forum was very popular but I violated the host's TOS by sending a mass-email, they took it down without notice, and we had made no backups haha.)

I don't mean this post to sound like an obituary - though I'm sure plenty of people would think that appropriate - but I think it's important to review what we've done here. It is no exaggeration to say that this clan has been a vital cornerstone in the history and development of VC:MP, and a review of our key achievements to date will interest the uninitiated and stir nostalgia in the oldies.

Before VU (Or ArS as it was first called) started, I'd attempted to form a couple of other clans. I'd only belonged to MK before, and I'd left them in September 2008 frustrated by the absent and stubborn leadership. My attempts had failed, because I was trying to form an elite group in an already-minuscule community. Back then the global playercount would reach a daily high of 30 if we were lucky, and would spend much of the day hovering near or at zero. The small handful of other clans back then (KFJ, DnA, MK, Killer and Strike's DS, Ka, R3V, DU and a few others) were largely inactive, and their acceptance policies were either rigid and unforgiving, or too loose. In fact, back then it was very rare for someone to 'apply' to anything. Generally, if you wanted to be part of a server or a clan, you would attempt to make friends with the people involved and wait to be invited. By trying to emulate the elite-oriented clans, my attempts floundered. With VU (ArS) though, things were slightly different. We decided to introduce two training tags, ArSr and ArSt, which no clan had done here before. Most clans didn't even have one training tag; you were either a full member or nothing.

The training system was a good one, and through its ranks came some great members - not least Knucis. It needed refining though, and there was a great number of internal problems between N0W4R, Thijn and I that prevented ArS from getting off the ground. The decision to re-open the clan as VU, with myself, Knucis, aXXo, Kontrium and a dude called Hydra as the only members proved to be a success. Instead of being a clan that opposed something (ArS stood for anti-roofing, anti-spazzing - lame, I know), we decided to go forward with an open and positive ethos. We noticed that all decent fighters were already in clans, and wouldn't leave to join us. So to gain members, instead of waiting for them to come, we would have to actively and recruit and train others, and bring them into the community. What we pioneered was the mod's first three-tiered training system, through which some of VC:MP's best players have gone (I won't list them, but go and look at the memberlists of ULK, DnA and Ka as well as our own, and there'll be more than one in each). Our two conditions were that the player could speak English, and that they were friendly. Everyone could learn how to fight, we thought, but people's personalities are fairly set in stone. We'd approach any English-speaking player in a server, train them how to use the game, and then bring them into our ranks as part of a group of friends. Our private tactics board grew to feature original and exclusive guides on practically all current techniques and tactics that players could use. Our numbers swelled exponentially. We went from having just five members to having more than thirty in just a few months, and in our second wave (I took a year off during university) we had more than 50 active members. And everyone could fight.

Soon after we re-opened, aXXo suggested that we host a tournament in order to engage and bring together the whole VC:MP community. Back then no one would play clanwars, and tags were largely meaningless. aXXo, and the rest of us, wanted to inject some real competition into the game, and boy did it work. The Vice City Dueling Championship (VCDC) was completely unprecedented, and saw the leaders of all the major active clans coming together to facilitate 40 players in a fight against each other. There was a lot of drama, and a lot of arguments, which made it perfect. It brought together players who had never spoken to each other before, who usually kept to their own forums and their own servers, bridging many gaps and laying the way for a real VC:MP community to emerge The participant list (http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?topic=15.0) makes for an interesting read.

Soon after VCDC, VU hosted a new, much larger, ongoing community event: the Vice City Ladder. The ladder was to be a ranking of 1v1 fighters in VC:MP, up which any challengers could try to climb by fighting the person above. I'm too lazy to work out the stats for the first Vice City Ladder, but a great number of people played and an insane number of matches were fought. Once again, it brought the community together on this forum. The 2011 ladder was also a great success, and both can be viewed archived here (http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?board=99.0).

In 2010, we released the server 'Sharks vs. Marios'. The concept was simple: limited to Prawn Island, with only two teams (the sharks and the marios), players would have non-stop combat on a varied-level terrain aided by a number of special features, unique at the time in VC:MP. They included XP points in order to gain rewards, ranks and titles based on XP level, teleportation pickups with variable access depending on XP-stage achieved and a small number of XP-earned ownable cars. Whilst not constantly in use, SvM would attract players who valued high-intensity and challenging gameplay. It was where the real pros of the game would go to fight, and gained something of a cult status among a few players who would play virtually nowhere else. Unfortunately this is pretty much all that remains of SvM, but those who played it I'm sure will remember it kindly.

Throughout 2010 and 2011, VU members became an integral part of the XE server. Notorious for its laggy scripts, but famed for its freedom and rational (compared to other servers') and involved management, it became our stomping ground. Thijn and I personally got very involved, and when the scripts were so bad that the server became virtually empty, I wrote an entirely new script, inspired by the old one, in squirrel, and upon release the server was once again stable. As one of three managers at the time, I was able to combine the community built here with that which was there, and brought players to the server who had previously shunned it. Whereas in 2008 and for some of 2009 XE was a dirty word, it soon became the only place for serious players to go. It became, once again, the most popular server in the mod, and started to become defined by the daily battles that VU and ULK would have there. Interestingly, had SvM not been made, things would have looked a bit different. Had I not been busy with SvM, ULK.HeAD - overall manager of XE at the time - said that he was going to give me his role as owner of the server (I'm expecting someone to call bullshit on this one, but if you go into the private management section of the XE forum, you can find a post from HeAD that confirms it to be true. Although I'm sure as soon as he sees this, Aki will find that post and delete it haha).

During Summer 2011, VU created and hosted another unprecedented event, the Vice War. Two teams, totaling 113 players, fought against each other for 24 hours. The second Vice War, also held during Summer 2011, stepped it up a notch. During the 24 hour event, 207 competitors played a combined, cumulative 31 days, 16 hours and 21 minutes, making 36,094 kills and scoring a shitload of points. It was unlike anything before or since, and can probably be described as the height of VC:MP competition. The archives can be found here (http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?board=128.0).

The Vice City Clan Tournament was VU sponsored, but not VU owned. It was an idea that many of us had had swimming around our heads for a while, and eventually Zegro approached me saying that he thought the VU platform would be a good place to host it from. Our reputation for holding events, the fact that our forum had become a community centre, seemed to make us the logical hosts of the next big event. The first VCCT didn't work out so well, as the logistics relied so heavily on everyone involved being diligent - and when dealing with some of the VC:MP community, that expectation is entirely unrealistic. The second VCCT, headed up by Morphine, was far more successful. The final between VU and ULK was incredibly close, and a tied score had to be settled with a basic LMS which ULK won. During the run-up to the event, and during it, VU held twice-a-week training sessions and explored tactics at length. The patterns of teamwork and camaraderie between the members grew to an astounding level, and we were able to prove that as well as being community-focused, we are also some of the best fighters in the game. Like the other events mentioned here, the tournament was unprecedented and nothing of similar weight has been hosted since. The archive for the second VCCT can be found here. (http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?board=158.0)

This is going to sound corny, but I think that of all our achievements to date, I think our greatest has been our friendship and ability to have fun. We've not only sought to fight in the game, and we haven't engaged with each other or outsiders purely on that basis. Rather, we wanted and succeeded in growing a group of friends who can/could discuss anything from politics, to religion, to music, to 10 hour long videos of nyan cat. We've welcomed, and will continue to welcome, as a matter of principle, anyone from anywhere, and make an effort to learn about them and let them learn about us. Though there have certainly been hiccups and mistakes along the way, by and large, we have fought to be inclusive and positive towards the players of this stupid little game that has eaten so much of our lives.

So happy sixth anniversary VU. I want to say thank you to all of the members, past and present, and to wish you all a happy new year. Perhaps we should have a reunion at some point in the future.


P.S. I may have missed a lot off of here, so if you have something to share please post about it below :)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: WiLsOn on December 29, 2014, 04:42:14 pm
This topic should be sticky.  :D i am glad 6 years & we are still alive & we are proud to be Vice Underdog member.  :)

Happy new year Charley.  :)

Happy 6th year anniversary VU.  :thumbsup:


P.S good to see you around.  ;)




Viva la VU
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: hotdogcat on December 29, 2014, 04:46:02 pm
Happy anniversary VU
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Niko on December 29, 2014, 05:28:28 pm
Happy 6th year anniversary VU.   ;D
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: RobinX on December 29, 2014, 06:44:53 pm
Yipee!
Proud to be a part of this clan.
Happy new year and 6th anniversary VU!

Cheers,
Dany

Viva la VU
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Dr.Shawn on December 29, 2014, 06:47:39 pm
HBD VU
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Thijn on December 29, 2014, 08:07:49 pm
God I love your endless long posts, they're such a good read. I really enjoyed reading up on the wonderful moments all the way back to the start.

You really captured our strength on the end:
I think our greatest has been our friendship and ability to have fun.
We became good at having fun, and being with a friendly bunch of people.

Thank you all for being here and for keeping the clan alive for so freaking long. Hopefully VCMP will become as active as before when 0.4 finally hits every major server.
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Zeke on December 29, 2014, 08:12:36 pm
This clan and that stupid little game, are one of the best things that have happened to me. Although I may not be a part of the clan, I'll always remember the great moments that we've shared together!

Happy Birthday Vice Underdogs!  :)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Anarki on December 29, 2014, 09:51:18 pm
Oh my gosh! It's been 6 years of Vice Underdogs and the time passed fastly. I'm so happy (((:
Happy 6th year anniversary :D
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Pleyo on December 29, 2014, 10:39:39 pm
I'm happy to be part of such a great clan, and I can't believe it it exists already for 6 years! Fuck, time passes quickly.

Happy birthday, VU! :)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Deadmau5 on December 29, 2014, 10:55:55 pm
Oh God :D!!! I love you VU :-* :-*
Happy 6th year anniversary and many much.
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Eddy on December 29, 2014, 11:52:57 pm
This clan and that stupid little game, are one of the best things that have happened to me. Although I may not be a part of the clan, I'll always remember the great moments that we've shared together!

Happy Birthday Vice Underdogs!  :)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: razor on December 30, 2014, 09:21:06 am
Happy 6th year anniversary!
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: ferrari32 on December 30, 2014, 10:08:48 am
I really must say, this clan seriously helped me mature, and become a better person. The amount of laughs and drama I've been through here is simply enormous. I'm really proud to be a part of this great community, and I'm very grateful for being able to meet so many nice and friendly people. Thank you all!
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Knucis on December 30, 2014, 01:17:55 pm
Incredible how, after all these years, we are still here, not because of the game but because of the community!

Happy Easter Vice Underdogs!

(also, Charley, damn, those posts)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Charley on December 30, 2014, 01:49:47 pm
(also, Charley, damn, those posts)

You love them really.
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Knucis on December 30, 2014, 01:51:35 pm
(also, Charley, damn, those posts)

You love them really.
I was expecting a larger reply, but yes, I do love them, don't we all? ;D
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Fercho on December 30, 2014, 05:43:24 pm
It's amazing to see how this clan has remained standing since 6 years ago, really thank you very much for giving me a chance to be part of this great clan which has been a fundamental part in the last years of my development as a person both game and in my personal life, I have lived here many times with my colleagues and many have been nice.

We also noticed the great friendship that has kept this clan for many years. I am very happy to be a proud member of this clan, happy birthday Vice Underdogs!  :)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: morphine on December 31, 2014, 08:22:36 am
glad to see you're still alive and kicking, Charley.


let's bring back SvM shall we?
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Charley on December 31, 2014, 08:35:53 am
let's bring back SvM shall we?

Yes! Do eet.

I live in China now though, so the chance of me being able to play with you guys, given the time difference and the high ping incurred by a shitty connection being routed through a VPN, is, unfortunately, infinitesimally small.
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Skirmant on December 31, 2014, 11:15:36 am
Time sure flies, it was interesting to be a part of this community for the last 4 years and take part in all the drama & discussion in it.
VCMP is pretty dead these days though, so a server like SvM should help a bit  :)

I live in China now though, so the chance of me being able to play with you guys, given the time difference and the high ping incurred by a shitty connection being routed through a VPN, is, unfortunately, infinitesimally small.

Are you living there long term from now on?
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Revolver on December 31, 2014, 11:43:33 pm
Congratulations and keep going.

ALSO

SVM TO REVIVE!!!
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Eddy on January 01, 2015, 08:23:59 pm
Thjin, svm please  :'(
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: GangstaRas on January 03, 2015, 05:53:44 pm
Everytime I see the history of VU it sure puts a smile on my face. I remember all the hype in Vice City Ladder. There was a big hype over akimaru and some other guys on who can dethrone him but some people in that competition only got where they got to because there was a system of if you didn't respond to a challenge in a week or something, the challenger moves up into your rank. I couldn't maintain it. I was like mid-way and some MK guy was just impossible for me to beat cuz he had his lead aim down on me but I didn't on him cuz he had the higher ping. Then Vice Wars, think I only participated in 2 of the 4 but the second one stood out for me, the one with the junkyard base, that was pure mayhem at the time and by far the best setup for battle. Good times real good times. We should have a blast from the past server


Oh ***, its almost 5 years for me. For some reason I keep thinking VU was older than this. I ain't just a senior then, I'm a great grand senior here lol. And all before me are the forefathers. You should be proud  :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Charley on January 06, 2015, 04:20:01 am
Are you living there long term from now on?

I'm living here for a year to write a book, I'll leave in October 2015 but I'm not sure to where yet.
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: Skirmant on January 28, 2015, 11:55:48 am
Are you living there long term from now on?

I'm living here for a year to write a book, I'll leave in October 2015 but I'm not sure to where yet.

That's really cool, what will the book be about? It would be interesting to read literature written by you :)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: bhattii on March 27, 2015, 03:28:19 am
HBD  8)
Title: Re: VU's 6 years old - a brief review of achievements to date.
Post by: WiLsOn on March 27, 2015, 04:50:17 am
HBD  8)
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