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Discussion => Debating Board => Topic started by: Knucis on March 12, 2012, 07:01:00 pm
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So yeah, I've been lucid dreaming for about 2 months now, and it's seriously awesome.
While Lucid dreaming you can do pretty much everything you want. Even sex, yes. But sometimes that turns into too much excitment and you eventually wake up.
But how do you lucid dream? Here are some tips:
MILD
Mnemonic Induced Lucid Dream
This method is familiar under the name MILD and has been invented by LaBerge.
According to LaBerge this method should be used when you have just awoken from an ordinary dream and you go back to sleep. The most important thing is your intent. You really have to believe what you say to yourself.
It is important to not want it too much. Try to let it come to you. If it doesn't work today, it will another time. Be patient.
MILD in 3 easy steps:
1 - Remember
Tell yourself that you will awake from a dream and you will recall that dream upon awakening. When awakening from a dream, try and remember as much as you can.
2 - Set your intent
While drifting back to sleep, concentrate on your intent to be aware that you are dreaming. Repeat the following text, or one you write yourself:
I'm going to dream now. I'm in a dream. I'm aware of my dream.
If you find your thoughts wandering, bring them back softly, and keep repeating the words.
3 - Visualise
Now imagine yourself becoming lucid in your dream. Go back to the dream you had before you woke up and imagine you realize it is a dream. (If you couldn't remember any dreams when waking up, use another dream you previously recalled). See yourself realising you are dreaming. Visualise what you are going to do once you are lucid. (for example flying)
Repeat
Repeat steps 2 and 3 until you fall asleep.
The dream
If you are successful you will be inside a dream and you will suddenly realize that you are dreaming.
WILD
Wake Induced Lucid Dream
When using the WILD technique, you go from being awake, directly into the dreaming state. That's why it is called Wake Induced Lucid Dream
The trick is to recognize the hypnagogic state and stay conscious while it develops in dream images. You will then be able to literaly step into your own dream world.
The hypnagogic state occurs on the border between waking and sleeping. It can be anything from colored dots to flashes of color or complete images. As you keep paying attention to it they will develop into more detailed images and if you stay aware you will find yourself inside your dream.
WILD in 3 easy steps
The below steps are interwoven. I separated them to make the process clearer.
1 - Relax
The hypnagogic stage occurs when you are relaxed. So first you do a relaxation exersise.
Feel yourself breathing in and out. Breathe in and tense the muscles of your feet. Breathe out and relax the muscles of your feet. Breathe in and tense the muscles in your lower legs. Breathe out and relax them again. Go on until you have come to your head.
2 - Be aware
The next step is staying conscious, and not drifting off. Ways to do that are:
Counting 1 - I'm dreaming, 2 - I'm dreaming, 3 - I'm dreaming, etc.
Paying attention to yourself breathing, while counting every breath in and out.
Imagining yourself walking down stairs, counting every step.
A combination of all of the above.
3 - Enter your dream
If you succeed in staying aware your hypnagogic images will become clearer. You will suddenly have a feeling you can now step into your dream. This is very hard to describe. The word that comes close is "knowingness"
With this knowingness you can grab an object you see before you or zoom in on an image. This will pull you into the dream.
Keep practising
The hardest thing is to stay aware and not drifting off to sleep. If you don't succeed, keep trying. WILD can take some time to master but it is worth it.
Experienced WILDers can reach this state without the counting - they just relax, keep paying attention to the hypnagogic images and then consciously enter the dreaming state.
Discuss your lucid dreams mates!
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Yea i have tried that already, but it doesnt come, it worked maybe 2 or 3 times, i was logging my dreams into the notebook and nothing :( which type of method did u use for LD, Knucis?
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I don't have a bed large enough for me to spread my hands. :(
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I don't have a bed large enough for me to spread my hands. :(
LOLOLOLOLOLO
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So yeah, I've been lucid dreaming for about 2 months now, and it's seriously awesome.
And u share this with us NOW!?!?!?!?!?
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While Lucid dreaming you can do pretty much everything you want. Even sex, yes.
I'm definitely gonna try this tonight.
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Yea i have tried that already, but it doesnt come, it worked maybe 2 or 3 times, i was logging my dreams into the notebook and nothing :( which type of method did u use for LD, Knucis?
Mostly MILDs
But I've been having more WILDs now. It's just better!
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I want it i get it ;D
I dreamed sex, shit you don't want to know with who :D
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happened with me more than a hundred times, it felt like there's a demon in my room because i used to get weirdly ghostish dreams, specially the time when i go to sleep after watching and playing horror movies and games
i still don't get what it is but i am just describing my part of dreams
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didn't work, screw you guys.
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didn't work, screw you guys.
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It doesnt happen from the first time you know "fuckas"
Anyways it worked. Was dreaming about me winning the MMA title hhhhhhhhhh
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it kind of worked for me today, i dream that i was in barcelona warching Barcelona vs Real Madrid, and real won 0-5 aftewards a bunch of real radicals went to Barcelona's stadium and planted a bomb with all the Barça fans still there
<33 epic shit man i love it
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it kind of worked for me today, i dream that i was in barcelona warching Barcelona vs Real Madrid, and real won 0-5 aftewards a bunch of real radicals went to Barcelona's stadium and planted a bomb with all the Barça fans still there
<33 epic shit man i love it
Haha, nice one :) .
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the thing that sounds scariest to me is the "sleep paralysis" thing. :v
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the thing that sounds scariest to me is the "sleep paralysis" thing. :v
Indeed, I was scared at first too Morphine, but you'll get used to is. The problem is that you hear random sounds and get allucinations during sleep paralysis. At first, since you are in panic, you'll see monsters and demons and such, but when you realise it's sleep paralysis they change into something nicer! And eventually you'll either wake up completaly or enter a LD!
happened with me more than a hundred times, it felt like there's a demon in my room because i used to get weirdly ghostish dreams, specially the time when i go to sleep after watching and playing horror movies and games
i still don't get what it is but i am just describing my part of dreams
Indeed I hate dreaming about fucking demons. 60% of my first sleep paralysis were with fucking demons and exorcist girl walking on my walls --', but then it went better because I was aware it was a sleep paralysis.
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Thank you, i'll never sleep now.
Knucis about the exorcist girl who walking on the walls, that's fucking scary. D:
PS: My dad says that i talk when i'm sleeping, i'm doing this since when i was 13 years old.
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I heard good method, but kinda hard to do it :D So u r goin sleep like always, at the morning, when your eyes are open DO NOT move any of your muscle and try to sleep again (it will take 30 seconds or less) then there are 80% chances for LD. Its hard for me, because I always forget about muscles part D:
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I aint trying this shit.
Jezz! You guys dont love your sleep or what??
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I aint trying this shit.
Jezz! You guys dont love your sleep or what??
I agree.
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I aint trying this shit.
Jezz! You guys dont love your sleep or what??
I disagree. I love my sleep, therefore I want to expand it to make it something even more likeable.
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Just had a lucid dream this night!
I noticed I was in a lucid dream when I looked at my hands, apparently I had 6 fingers (1 extra middle finger LOL). Then I spend the rest of the lucid dream jumping off high buildings :P Was really fun, you can really feel the air around you, it's a hard feeling to explain. Lucid dreaming is starting to get better everytime!
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Wait wut. Demons and exsorcist girls? I don't wanna do that crap...
'Tho I think I stumbled upon one of these by accident one or 2 times, I always hear those fucked up noises and see a guy staring right at me in bed. That's when I panic and wake up.
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Wait wut. Demons and exsorcist girls? I don't wanna do that crap...
'Tho I think I stumbled upon one of these by accident one or 2 times, I always hear those fucked up noises and see a guy staring right at me in bed. That's when I panic and wake up.
Same as you Ferrari, when i wake up or when i want to go to sleep i see a girl wearing white and staring at me from the door and up the door, i don't get scared of that, because it happens to me every time.
Knucis please explain how to sleep because i didn't understand a shit :D
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Wait wut. Demons and exsorcist girls? I don't wanna do that crap...
'Tho I think I stumbled upon one of these by accident one or 2 times, I always hear those fucked up noises and see a guy staring right at me in bed. That's when I panic and wake up.
Same as you Ferrari, when i wake up or when i want to go to sleep i see a girl wearing white and staring at me from the door and up the door, i don't get scared of that, because it happens to me every time.
Knucis please explain how to sleep because i didn't understand a shit :D
When that crap first began, I went to sleep with a military knife next to me. Got used to it too eventually.
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tried again, my dream was - i left my debit card in oil inlet of bus and i am chasing the bus on a horse.
wow fuck man weirdest dream of all time
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Just had a lucid dream this night!
I noticed I was in a lucid dream when I looked at my hands, apparently I had 6 fingers (1 extra middle finger LOL). Then I spend the rest of the lucid dream jumping off high buildings :P Was really fun, you can really feel the air around you, it's a hard feeling to explain. Lucid dreaming is starting to get better everytime!
You just did the Matrix scene there :P
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Just had a lucid dream this night!
I noticed I was in a lucid dream when I looked at my hands, apparently I had 6 fingers (1 extra middle finger LOL). Then I spend the rest of the lucid dream jumping off high buildings :P Was really fun, you can really feel the air around you, it's a hard feeling to explain. Lucid dreaming is starting to get better everytime!
You just did the Matrix scene there :P
Haha, yeah kind of!
And yeah, sleep paralysis can be really scary, but since you guys are used to it, it doesn't really matter. Just don't panic, think of something nice (like a girl) and the sleep paralysis will MOST LIKELY change into that girl! (Maybe you can even ask her (or think about) to strip!)
Well I normally do MILDs. Like an alarm that sounds at the middle of the night (in the headphones ofc, or my parents would kill me) and I wake up. I don't move any muscle so I can remember my dream, and then I try to sleep while focusing on my previous dream. This will cause me to enter the sleep state but beeing conscient, therefore you may enter a lucid dream!
But I also do WILDs. Like, going to bed, staying still (like don't move ANYTHING) and count sheep (lol). After some minutes (5 or 10 mins) you'll start to hear sounds and see some blurried visions on your eyes. You'll also feel up a weight in your chest (that means you are on sleep paralysis, so if you don't want to get scared, just dont open your eyes) and the blurried visions will get less blury and you can try "grabbing" an object inside that vision and voilá! You're in a lucid dream.
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Idk if this is considered as lucid dreaming, but one time when I was ill, I left my hands under my chest. Due to this a pressure was made on my chest due to gravity pushing my chest towards my hands. I felt like I was holding a giant heavy ball and I was sweating. Then I woke up in terror.
There is a saying that nightmares = pressure on your chest (because when there's pressure on your chest you breathe harder => your dreams become worse).
One day I thought about that saying and I tryed it again (this time without sleeping). And guess what happened - my thoughts turned into nightmares, lol.
You guys can try this by yourself - lie down with your stomach facing your bed, put your fists under your chest, wait for some time.
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sleeping on your chest is considered unhealthy either way.
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i lay down on my stomach and my hands under the pillow, i don't dream, i rarely dream.
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Yeah, sleeping on your chest is not recommended.
Seriously, try having a lucid dream tonight :P I am also going to try today, not sure if I'll be sucessful, but I'll post up tomorrow if I was.
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So I did the WILD, But I opened my eyes. Fuck you knucis...
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So I did the WILD, But I opened my eyes. Fuck you knucis...
Not my fault that you opened your eyes. If you kept it closed and waited a little longer you would've thanked me!
Also, failed to have that lucid dream D: Lost focus and went into a non-lucid dream.
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I also failed :D I have used the opening eyes every 3 seconds tactic, but I lost my focus after 10 - 15 minutes :D
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awww :P I normally use the check my hands tactic
also, if I could make my lucid dreams into music, it would be this:
http://www.youtube.com/v/v48rN6sJ4K0#!
Listen to 1:50
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Opened my eyes again. The time before I saw a devil, now I saw hell.
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Lawl, I already get Scared like SHIZ when I even just think of a scary sorta thing before going to sleep..
Gets the shiz outta me and the heck is this..?? :-X .. ofc not doing that.
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saw it on 9gag :P
And yeah, it IS awesome. You just have to go through sleep paralysis if you do the WILD technic.
If you do the MILD you may not go through sleep paralysis.
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It worked with me, the dream was : i'm sleeping on the bed and i saw someone runs in my room, his face was the troll guy, i lold so hard.
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i felt the sleep paralysis today after reaching home from a tiring french exam. my eyesight went all blurry as if i was on LSD and after a minute or two, i was able to move again. felt a bit creepy to be honest but i sure as hell will be trying it again soon. ;D
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Happened to me lots of times a while back, but I never realized what it was D: Ever saw your body while you are sleeping? LOL I have seen my body while my body is sleeping it is scary :D
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Happened to me lots of times a while back, but I never realized what it was D: Ever saw your body while you are sleeping? LOL I have seen my body while my body is sleeping it is scary :D
**ferrari32 dials the mental institution...
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Happened to me lots of times a while back, but I never realized what it was D: Ever saw your body while you are sleeping? LOL I have seen my body while my body is sleeping it is scary :D
FUCKING WICKED MAN!
That's a fucking Out of body experience (OBE)! I tried so many fucking times to do this and I failed hard! Tell me your secrets NAO!
i felt the sleep paralysis today after reaching home from a tiring french exam. my eyesight went all blurry as if i was on LSD and after a minute or two, i was able to move again. felt a bit creepy to be honest but i sure as hell will be trying it again soon. ;D
Really nice Morphine! It does feel a little bit creepy at first, but with it you'll be able to focus on a lucid dream!
Also, did you had any hypnagogic hallucinations or weird sounds?
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yeah it felt like i'd been watching one of those hallucinogen videos on youtube for 3 hours straight.
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Wicked nice, you are almost there Morphine :)
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One of my close friend have been experiencing nightmares like such whenever he goes to sleep during exams, he now have a habit of listening to music along his sleep.
Since this thread started I became aware that what this godamn shit is called.
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Damn, by nightmares you mean sleep paralysis? And in a fucking exam? Fuck!
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Tried it for 2 nights now
Didn't work
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Nah just kding i had awesome dreams
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Also, did you had any hypnagogic hallucinations or weird sounds?
Don't even get me started on those... I hear some girl whispering in my ear with some sort of demonish language. That's when I open my eyes and there we go...
She dissappears quite fast 'tho
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Tried to do the Wild one last night, Was too much tired as my yesterday was my last exam and a-lot of fun, was too much tired, I almost had it to my dream, Every fucking thing was going like planned to do the WILD but on the last step, I felt almost like sleepy and outta this world but just then.. FOTHAMUCKIN urge to Poop appeared and destroyed all my steps, went to toilet, Did poop for 30 Minutes and forgot about the LD and just when I went on the bed, I just went into usual sleep after 20-25 secs. >:(
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Also, did you had any hypnagogic hallucinations or weird sounds?
Don't even get me started on those... I hear some girl whispering in my ear with some sort of demonish language. That's when I open my eyes and there we go...
She dissappears quite fast 'tho
ferrari you're my twin, i'm having the same :D
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Also, did you had any hypnagogic hallucinations or weird sounds?
Don't even get me started on those... I hear some girl whispering in my ear with some sort of demonish language. That's when I open my eyes and there we go...
She dissappears quite fast 'tho
If you don't like it, why are you even doing so? I am not forcing anyone to do anything, so don't get me started.
But yeah I also had some Sleep paralysis like those.
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you and your demons..
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@Knucis, I have no idea how that happened there must be a guide somewhere but it was terrifying for me.
I got my balls in position! gonna try the techniques to get a lucid dream, I always wake up before I could ------ a girl
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Also, did you had any hypnagogic hallucinations or weird sounds?
Don't even get me started on those... I hear some girl whispering in my ear with some sort of demonish language. That's when I open my eyes and there we go...
She dissappears quite fast 'tho
If you don't like it, why are you even doing so? I am not forcing anyone to do anything, so don't get me started.
But yeah I also had some Sleep paralysis like those.
I wanna see how it's supposed to be :P
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So, I tried the WILD last night and Idk if I had any LD but I sure did felt kinda weird in a Dream, where Me wasn't Me.
I was some kind of switched with my friends body, I had full control on my friends body, it was just like real and my own body whom I wasn't controlling was walking on it's own I even tried to punch my body (LoL) and my body fell on the ground. This was just the weird Dream I had Last night (Me playing with Me, while I was my friend but was not me), the thing to say I didn't heard any noises while sleeping but sure did heard a door being closed and being opened 4-5 times. So, was this really a (Short) LD? or just a usual dream??
Also, I again tried to do the MILD one when I became awake of my previous dream but failed to do it because I actually wasn't feeling any sleepy. So, any tips of how to do this MILD because I couldn't concentrate on myself in MILD and also tell me was the first dream a LD or just a usual dream..
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Just fell into LD(guess so) 5 mins ago.After washing my cycle,i wanted to take a quick nap.Dunno,i tried to get into a Obe usually possible in morning.I was thinking about falling from the space to earth.And i cant believe i did it.In that dream there were weird noises.Can't explain,they were like echo'ing sounds.And ofc,i had played a silent hill game on my pc yesterday.I saw some of its scenario.I wanted to stay in the LD but it was too horrifying.I wished to wake up,Suddenly found my body was kinda like wax,i cannot move my mouth.I didnt thought it was a dream,it was quite a feeling like being awake.So i got worried,as i worried and though to be awake,i just,dunno how,woke up.Saw my self in my room.Knucis,this thing is quite horrifying.Never gonna try it again seriously it scared the shit outta me.