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Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Accepted Applications => Topic started by: Alpays on March 08, 2022, 07:17:08 pm

Title: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 08, 2022, 07:17:08 pm
Nick: Alpays

Age: 15

Timezone/Country: GMT +3:00, Turkey

Previous Nicks: Alpayz0r, used it for a short time in vcad only

Additional Comments: Hey all, in order to give a little historical background, i have started playing VC-MP in early 2020 by playing in roleplay servers for a short while. I started to play in dm servers by playing LW's followed by other servers. Nowadays i am mostly around in VC A/D and been playing in LW's and basically any other dm server if there is an activity. Only clan i have joined was MK which i applied in june 2021 i stayed in MK for about six months and left around three months ago. I've had not a specific reason to leave i thought i would have more fun being clanless and wouldn't apply for clans again and if i am being honest i wasn't happy with everything in MK so i decided to leave. Coming to the point what made me apply VU is that out of the all obvious reasons, i got to met with many VU members recently and i think VU is pretty selective when it comes to recruiting besides Domek vouched and suggested me to apply for VU. If there are people who don't know me personally i believe we can get to meet one way or another. Sorry beforehand if this application is too short to be honest i didn't want to go in to every detail and i am not really good at writing such stuff so any kind of question is welcomed, i will try to answer them as soon as i can. Cheers and nice day.

Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Vedder on March 08, 2022, 08:38:54 pm
Hey man, good to see you

I have one thought, for a start:

I don't really think VU is a 'selective' clan. We like to give everyone a chance here. What do you specifically mean by 'selective'? What kind of a clan do you think is the ideal one?

I personally don't know you even though we played several times. Will remain neutral for now. Good luck
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Ülker on March 08, 2022, 08:55:55 pm
Sorry, I don't like Turkish people. It's a strong vote for no from me kanka.

Viva la Armenia! ❤️







- Sent from my iPhone McDonalds, Yerevan.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 08, 2022, 08:58:47 pm
I don't really think VU is a 'selective' clan. We like to give everyone a chance here. What do you specifically mean by 'selective'? What kind of a clan do you think is the ideal one?

What i mean with being 'selective' isn't recruiting experienced/old players only it is recruiting the people who deserve. As far as i am aware the vu philosophy is giving chance to the new comers - train them, but that doesn't mean you are giving everyone the rank, only to the people you think they deserve which is why it makes vu selective for me.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: RajPut on March 08, 2022, 09:00:39 pm
Sorry, I don't like Turkish people. It's a strong vote for no from me kanka.
Discrimination! Kicked from VU.

@Alpays
I know you since a long time, we have been administrating LW together. I feel like you deserve a chance.

Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: MD619 on March 08, 2022, 10:18:18 pm
You’re a nice guy and a good friend of mine. You have good dming skills and other qualities that make me think you will be fit in this family so I’m voting Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: BliTz on March 09, 2022, 03:33:46 am
Well that's surprising , we've got so many kids in VU and I love to play with them. I'm sure you will have a great time..good luck ..




join falcons if u get accepted
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Inferno69 on March 09, 2022, 09:01:12 am
Another kebab in VU?  :o
I believe kebabs are decent people ( excludes Tic here )


Trainee
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Roystang on March 09, 2022, 09:19:08 am
Trainee for sure!
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: DiaZ on March 09, 2022, 09:23:33 am
I am not satisfied with your reason to leave MK. I will stay neutral for now.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Mody on March 09, 2022, 11:38:26 am
I am not satisfied with your reason to leave MK. I will stay neutral for now.
Same as what Diaz said, Alpays would you like to explain more about that?
Also, I'd like to talk with you in person, contact me on discord.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: koray on March 09, 2022, 01:22:17 pm
Alpays

Can you be more specific about why you were not happy with everything about MK?

Me and my clanmates did not know about this before your departion. We acknowledged this only after your departure and because people asked you about the reason. Still not satisfactory as to why you'd leave. It is always important to talk about the problems internally before taking radical decisions. It is also very important to give feedback about the things that you don't see right so it can be a better place for everyone.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 09, 2022, 02:11:11 pm
Thanks for the opinions and votes given

Alpays

Can you be more specific about why you were not happy with everything about MK?

Same as what Diaz said, Alpays would you like to explain more about that?
Also, I'd like to talk with you in person, contact me on discord.

Sure.
To be honest i wasn't very satisfied with the recruitment in MK mostly. As said above i have no problem with voting for very new players or unskilled players quite frankly i am not very good in dm as well but when i was in MK i always voted based on application guidelines which basically tells an applicant should have an understandable English, should be friendly and humble i dont mind about English part much as well it is ok if we are able to communicate. What i care most was players' in behaviour in game/forums i can honestly say some of our members were losing their temper and being too harsh and i never wanted to give chance to the people who i've seen being extremely harsh. I can agree that i didn't bring this up to discussion in MK but i tried to change people's view on the applications that i voted no everytime, saying that we shouldn't give chance to the people who is being toxic until they get to learn how to control themselves and most of them got accepted another thing was i felt like most of the people who applied stuck around only for a few days, posted an application, got the rank and never seen in forums/discord or in game ever again which again i wasn't satisfied with. I didn't mention about this at first in my departure topic i was rushed on the decision i took and eventually i wasn't right with thinking i wouldn't be interested in clans again or wouldnt play vcmp actively but i've had lost interest to the game back then so my reason could be not satisfiying and i am not really happy with what i did but right know there is nothing i can do about it. If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask

Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: ferrari32 on March 09, 2022, 04:49:50 pm
Trainee, good luck
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Sk on March 09, 2022, 04:58:04 pm
as you know I am not a gay pedophile so I think if I vote trainee for you It will make me one and thats something I am not so sorry for this. Sadly, I can't give any other reason besides this you are a very very act(ract)ive player and a very good player too. Butt I can give rookie. Please dispoint me.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Mody on March 09, 2022, 06:02:57 pm
T
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Domek on March 09, 2022, 06:29:03 pm
Trainee from fake ping.  ;)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Vedder on March 09, 2022, 07:37:46 pm
In case something bothers you in VU, I strongly recommend you to raise your voice and share your concerns before making such a decision.

I have my doubts, but I do believe a trainee position will not hurt. I also believe this place to be a perfect one for you to learn a lot whilst you grow up.

Edit: i forgot to say that I think you will be a great addition here

Good luck
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Spiller on March 10, 2022, 04:57:18 am
Hey Alpays, I hope you're doing fine.

I was shocked when you decided to leave MK all of a sudden. But I could understand your reasons. There were no hints of dissatisfaction or problems, neither on the departure topic nor when I asked you personally.

Which is quite conspiring to what you've mentioned here, infact, a lot of things are.

As said above i have no problem with voting for very new players or unskilled players
I don't see where was the difference of perspective in that, the clan as a whole is not active enough ingame to take skills into consideration. I can't recall the last time someone was rejected because they lacked a skillset.

i can honestly say some of our members were losing their temper and being too harsh... i tried to change people's view on the applications that i voted no everytime, saying that we shouldn't give chance to the people who is being toxic until they get to learn how to control themselves and most of them got accepted
This is just... outright heartbreaking. I had to recheck all your posts to make sure of this, that all the applicants you voted no for, were denied eventually. Toxicity was never condoned, FroZeN was kicked in his first instance. Dubious applicants were not accepted in the first try either.

For the sake of our amusement, lets say that there were problems with MK's recruitment, after spending all that time, you could have opened up about it. I can not say now that you could have talked to me about it at the very least because by reading this I can only assume you did not trust me as much as I trusted you. I hope you will not do the same in the future and will do as Vedder suggested.

If you were not satisfied with MK, I can understand, we are not serious about the game most of the time. Does not mean we let things pass. Please do not blame the process when you could never manage to put yourself in a feedback loop in the first place. There will be no perfect place and inaction will never solve problems.

Nonetheless, I would like to wish you luck with your application. I was only here to clear the air, I sincerely hope you guys will not let this change the direction of this application, he's still one of the nicest people I've met around here.

Godspeed.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: lederhos on March 10, 2022, 05:29:37 am
T. Good luck.

Now seriously, good luck!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 10, 2022, 05:37:10 am
Well thanks spiller but

i can honestly say some of our members were losing their temper and being too harsh... i tried to change people's view on the applications that i voted no everytime, saying that we shouldn't give chance to the people who is being toxic until they get to learn how to control themselves and most of them got accepted
This is just... outright heartbreaking. I had to recheck all your posts to make sure of this, that all the applicants you voted no for, were denied eventually. Toxicity was never condoned, FroZeN was kicked in his first instance. Dubious applicants were not accepted in the first try either.

This is not quite true because most of the time i voted no for applications in temporary private discussion board and just to be clear i can say that i've had no trust issues with you i felt like my reasons could sound a bit egoistic but then i felt not saying anything and leaving is more selfish so i've told this to the members when i was asked later
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: FaF on March 10, 2022, 06:22:21 am
Promise me Alpays that you will not spontaneously leave this great clan VU in case you get accepted, when someone you prefer not to be in the clan applies here and gets accepted because here everyone is given a chance. :)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Clarke. on March 10, 2022, 09:03:21 am
very cool and nice guy ,good luck Alpays
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: GM46 on March 10, 2022, 09:45:06 am
Good luck bhai.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Inferno69 on March 10, 2022, 10:04:22 am
T. Good luck.

Now seriously, good luck!  :thumbsup:
Accepted as VU1_A.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: SKAZ on March 10, 2022, 10:44:50 am
Good luck bro  :)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Major on March 10, 2022, 12:47:16 pm
hey Alpays, I have a question why did you exactly choose VU and not any other clan?
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 10, 2022, 01:34:25 pm
very cool and nice guy ,good luck Alpays
Good luck bhai.
Good luck bro  :)

Thx you all. :)

hey Alpays, I have a question why did you exactly choose VU and not any other clan?

Quote
Coming to the point what made me apply VU is that out of the all obvious reasons, i got to met with many VU members recently and i think VU is pretty selective when it comes to recruiting besides Domek vouched and suggested me to apply

This and i know most of the vu members, dont have any problem with them it seems to me that vu doesnt have any problem like inactivity or anything as well i just think vu is better for me than the other choices i have but im not saying other clans are just worse or anything everyone got their own reasons for applying for the clans and i've got my own for VU
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Vedder on March 10, 2022, 04:14:07 pm
In addition to what I said, Spiller and FaF have expressed my original intention with more appropriate words.

We are a family, sometimes we take decisions that a big degree of our members are not satisfied with and that must not be a reason for a departure. We are settled, in VU and life in general, in a purview where we are forced to accept decisions by others, and that sometimes will hurt but that's the beauty of it, accept the differences.

I am an example of that, see how divided is my application, yet Lederhos did not leave because of me and he tried his best to be friendly to me. Due to that, our relationship improved a lot.

I have faith in you, however.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 10, 2022, 09:05:59 pm
Well i dont think i was right with what i did i wouldnt do the same mistake again
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Major on March 11, 2022, 04:48:04 pm
Trainee
Dont disappoint us! Good luck. ;)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: TheViper89543 on March 11, 2022, 07:15:35 pm
Don't expect something negative from this Dude, he's a trusted person according to me, he deserve more than a chance. Good luck.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Scalla on March 12, 2022, 11:34:22 am
trainee cuz you start brawls a lot  O0
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: VipeX on March 13, 2022, 04:11:37 am
Good Luck!
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: hotdogcat on March 14, 2022, 02:29:08 pm
Nice person, Trainee
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Ülker on March 14, 2022, 07:04:27 pm
We could have let this this application go on for a few more days, but there really is no need to.

Full: 0
Rookie: 2
Trainee: 16
Neutral: 5
No: 0

With this outstanding positive poll count, I'm happy to announce that you've been accepted as Trainee. Although its only been a short time since you began your application, you have certainly made a good impression on us beforehand as not even a single member voted negative for you. As your former MK clanmates so kindly advised, please never hesitate to verbally raise any concerns you may have at any point in the future as everyone's feedback is equally important and valuable.

Before going any further, please remember to fully read our ethos (https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=3702.0) and constitution (https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7295.0). These are the very cores of our clan and what make us who we are. Congratulations [VU_T]Alpays, very well deserved!

Now, time for your actual initiation phase to begin...
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Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Febulous. on March 14, 2022, 07:35:40 pm
Congratulations
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Major on March 14, 2022, 08:16:10 pm
Congratulations Alpays! Welcome to VU ;)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 14, 2022, 09:08:07 pm
Thanks for the warm welcome guys :police:
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Vedder on March 14, 2022, 09:17:13 pm
Yooooo! New member! Let's begin the fuckfest

Welcome!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: MD619 on March 14, 2022, 11:55:24 pm
Congrats bro, Welcome to the family <3
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: DiaZ on March 15, 2022, 12:23:35 am
congratz
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: SKAZ on March 15, 2022, 03:15:40 am
Congrats  ;)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: RajPut on March 15, 2022, 03:54:40 am
Congrats man

Don’t let us down.
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: BliTz on March 15, 2022, 05:08:04 am
Congratz Alpays .. welcome to the kids gang :)
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: GM46 on March 15, 2022, 06:07:54 am
Congrats
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Inferno69 on March 15, 2022, 09:12:02 am
Congratulations Al-kpaybab



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Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: byJeanStylez on March 15, 2022, 03:05:03 pm
Congratulations Alpays-kun :3
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Hazard on March 15, 2022, 04:29:56 pm
congratulations
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Oreocake on March 15, 2022, 04:36:18 pm
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: MarshM on March 15, 2022, 08:35:15 pm
Congrats
Title: Re: Application - Alpays
Post by: Alpays on March 16, 2022, 06:55:27 pm
Thanks everyone O0 :police: