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Archive => General Discussions => Vice War 9: Lost In Liberty => Archived Events => Suggestions => Topic started by: aXXo on April 28, 2020, 09:00:05 pm

Title: Return of the Stubby
Post by: aXXo on April 28, 2020, 09:00:05 pm
Still living in the old glory days of 0.3z?
Fight me bitch stubby only 1v1 motherfucker?
Sensitivity so maxed you swipe in Washington, bullet goes Wazirabad?

I have good news - Stubby is being buffed in Vicewar 9.

I personally felt that since 0.4 was introduced, Stubby had fallen off in popularity. It is much weaker compared to Shotgun - Outranged and outpaced. Since both of the weapons are free and supposed to be "side-grades" of each other, we need to reach a balance. Currently, I feel 90% players would prefer to use Shotgun over Stubby, unless the server forces it in packs/sets.

To buff Stubby, I changed the animation values of the weapon data, so that it is faster in c-glitch. The values have been adjusted, so that it resembles the speed of "ghost shooting" in VCMP 0.3z.

(https://i.imgur.com/7wUsi8O.gif)

You can try it out in the Vicewar 9 Server during a test/beta session.
The changes are not final, so let me know your feedback.

For server developers, that values I'm using are:
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// Quicker stubby c glitch
SetWeaponDataValue(21,15,10);
SetWeaponDataValue(21,16,14);
SetWeaponDataValue(21,17,12);
SetWeaponDataValue(21,18,8);
SetWeaponDataValue(21,19,12);
SetWeaponDataValue(21,20,10);
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: SilenTKilleR on April 28, 2020, 09:15:34 pm
good job! will try it in vw.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: ZUBI on April 28, 2020, 09:24:44 pm
This is a brave move i think old pals should definately loves it... :thumbsup:  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: ripmemes on April 28, 2020, 09:32:09 pm
Neat
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: PunkNoodle on April 28, 2020, 09:37:01 pm
Thanks I hate it
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: lederhos on April 28, 2020, 10:50:38 pm
take me back to murdock sky city bby
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Ryne on April 28, 2020, 11:16:54 pm
Looking forward to use it!
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: JuaN. on April 28, 2020, 11:33:32 pm
Looks like old polak glitching trolls c raping everyone back in XE American server and LW in 2008

Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Klaus on April 28, 2020, 11:36:14 pm
I'm not really a fan myself of modifying the gameplay in such a way. It would make it different to what we are all accustomed to and have been playing/learning/training/whatever leading up to the event. Though if it proves popular then I'll go with the majority.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: DiaZ on April 29, 2020, 02:33:33 am
Thanks I hate it

Now I can team kill punknoodle easily
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Zatch on April 29, 2020, 04:20:34 am
time to c-glitch 8)
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Vedder on April 29, 2020, 05:40:42 am
It's so cool, thanks for bringing it back for the event
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Waluta on April 29, 2020, 07:25:59 am
And yet, he thought I would never wait. Good job  8)
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: MasterOz on April 29, 2020, 08:05:38 am
Must be cool!
Great job   :)
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: krystianoo on April 29, 2020, 01:04:25 pm
I'm not really a fan myself of modifying the gameplay in such a way. It would make it different to what we are all accustomed to and have been playing/learning/training/whatever leading up to the event. Though if it proves popular then I'll go with the majority.
The final beta will take place on May 2nd.
This, aside from this forum, is when you guys can give your feedback regarding this change. The event is for the community and we definitely want to hear your opinions when it comes to the new Stubby.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Gohan on April 29, 2020, 07:33:15 pm
It's broken.

It's not worth it take an spas in this case, all of the checkpoints or atleast 3 of them are in closed places, close roads, where you can spam crouch while shooting timing those "ghost" shots. I've been testing it and it's annoying, you can actually shot like 10 bullets in 2.3 secs.

PD: the animation while crouching doesn't even finish and the shots already came out of the stubby.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: ElvenKing on April 30, 2020, 06:13:11 am
We can try and see but I'd not recommend applying this setting in event. A lot of players are used to the default weapon settings of stubby shotgun.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: lol55 on May 02, 2020, 02:54:30 pm
Well, This stubby is much better from previous stubby.
we can surely give a try to new stubby for this year :)
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: DiaZ on May 02, 2020, 05:23:40 pm
Well, This stubby is much better from previous stubby.
we can surely give a try to new stubby for this year :)

You can't use shotgun,stubby or spaz
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: lol55 on May 02, 2020, 06:41:34 pm
Well, This stubby is much better from previous stubby.
we can surely give a try to new stubby for this year :)

You can't use shotgun,stubby or spaz
Thats why made 7x spree on u even you are the best lagger in vcmp :)
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: ferrari32 on May 03, 2020, 08:13:25 am
Don't like seeing that. Ghost shots had a bit of randomness before.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: JuaN. on May 03, 2020, 04:40:36 pm
Don't like seeing that. Ghost shots had a bit of randomness before.
I can't agree to that, many players including myself managed to use ghost shooting pretty well back in the day with out a single bit of randomness but that was like 6 or 7 years ago and some new ppl may not remember it.

That was before 0.4 came out and vcmp developing staff kept on capping/limiting close combat style in order to favor m4 and long ranged weps usage

It's not exactly what stubby used to be but it's always good for old vcmp 1v1ers to see Stubby shotgun recovering its old power for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Vedder on May 03, 2020, 11:31:48 pm
It's not exactly what stubby used to be but it's always good for old vcmp 1v1ers to see Stubby shotgun recovering its old power for 24 hours.
Totally. Though after thinking and seeing what other players think, it seems particularly not a good idea to use this feature on the upcoming event, with a relatively new generation of players not fully acquianted with. However, I agree on Juan that this new feature makes the old 0.3zers recall how much fun and dynamic was glitching with stubby in the past (despite the fact that it's not exactly as it was). This might be improved and introduced, if not in Vice-War 9, in future events, servers and gamemodes.
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Gohan on May 04, 2020, 12:33:39 am
It's not exactly what stubby used to be but it's always good for old vcmp 1v1ers to see Stubby shotgun recovering its old power for 24 hours.
Totally. Though after thinking and seeing what other players think, it seems particularly not a good idea to use this feature on the upcoming event, with a relatively new generation of players not fully acquianted with. However, I agree on Juan that this new feature makes the old 0.3zers recall how much fun and dynamic was glitching with stubby in the past (despite the fact that it's not exactly as it was). This might be improved and introduced, if not in Vice-War 9, in future events, servers and gamemodes.

Agree with both of you, but as I said, it's totally broken in 0.4. The animation of the stubby doesn't even finish, like 70% of the anim and the shoot already hit the enemy. It's not an excuse of usage of it, it's just that players who probably doesn't play fast enough like old times, will cry every single moment that such a faster player which can you easy hit 10 shoots per 2 seconds and kills him.

PD:
I'm probably will be the one who cries :D
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: WiLsOn on May 04, 2020, 08:25:44 am
Idk why y'all so upset about this, you don't even use stubby or afraid that shotgun might become useless? Lol
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Halchter on May 06, 2020, 09:08:13 am
New stubby can't match this O0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLlJ6HWA7rY
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: aXXo on May 06, 2020, 09:41:09 am
New stubby can't match this O0
Changing to M4 range and Tec9 animation.  >:(
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: [EAF]Marcell on May 10, 2020, 11:28:31 am
best feature ive seen in vcmp since  sitting animation   O0
Title: Re: Return of the Stubby
Post by: Gulk on June 12, 2020, 07:46:17 am
it has a bug, if you hold still and shoot.... it pauses and the animation plays without a second shot. you need to fix that by keeping the reductions of those numbers identical.

https://easyupload.io/cmmc9m