Vice Underdogs
Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Denied Applications => Topic started by: Hazard on June 27, 2020, 02:49:39 pm
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Nick: Hazard
Age: 16 (will be seventeen in October)
Timezone/Country: Pakistan, PK (GMT+5)
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Additional Comments: Greetings everybody! How ya'll are doing? It's Muhammad Raqeeb here and I'm applying for the VU clan.
My personality isn't much famous in VC:MP these days but yes I have made major changes from the starting to the present and most of the people recognize me as a fair/respected person.
I joined VC:MP in 2012 and It seemed very interesting to me. But had some breaks since my brother's PC was broken and went in-active for a period of two years. Rejoined VC:MP in 2014 where I had my own PC and I was enjoying it and the first servers in which I used to have fun were LW, DDRP and VKs. I used to play LW a lot as it still a fair and peaceful server and the admins there are still great. This is the only server which remained alive from the starting of 0.4 till now, never had any break of long period. I used to play with XaARM in the team of Tommy Vercetti (Sky blue) I learnt from the guys and started to fight.. I did fair fighting in LW but I felt a lot of disturbance and helplessness in VKs, DDRP where people team-up against me. Their moves were faster and quicker, I also tried a lot to copy them but since I was playing with arrow keys.. It was literally hard for me to understand those glitches but after a few years in 2016, I learnt C/Fast glitches from [VU_R]MaTrIx. He was a very nice guy, most of the VU guys were respectful and well-known in the whole VC:MP. I wished to join them but never got a chance to. I always felt VU is a big level clan where my attitude, fighting and communications skills didn't matter.
I joined UF in 2017 (Click to view the app) (https://uf-clan.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=1530.0) I was a interesting hacker at that time, I used several hacks and even aimbot when it was published on YT, got banned in official servers.. kicked from UF, lost almost my all reputation but I worked a lot on my reputation, fighting and communication skills but still I got bullied a lot of times in VC:MP that I'm not worthy of that, I'm just an aimlocker who can't play without hacks.. bla bla then I almost lost hope (Since I wasn't much mature so I always took everything seriously) Then after training a lot my fighting skills were increased by fighting with competitive players and winning duels from the starting. So this is also a quality of mine. Then I re-joined UF and prove that I'm worthy of becoming a good and loyal member. I almost stayed a year but then left because of issues with members. (Click to check the app) (https://uf-clan.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=1814.0) My English skills weren't that bad but yes, now my English skills are better than the past. You can see how the app is written in my UF app, link given above. I left UF because I didn't feel comfortable, when these cases happened about Fox, hence major misunderstandings for were created that time.
After leaving UF, my path was to stay clanless but I used to be un-happy being clan-less, there was no fun then I decided to join MK. I had ability of defense, great death-matching skills that's why I joined MK, since It's name is Miami Killers. I thought it would be better for my training. We had personal problems with PL community but since there were only a few guys who were PL so I decided to join MK, thinking no sherlock/drama would happen. Stayed there almost two months then suddenly I saw the application of Devil and after it a lot of players from PL (whom I had personal problems) not seeing the personal stuff I decided to clear my doubts by asking them a few questions. As It was clear that most of the guys left their clans for PL community, a few of them were Devil and Chocolate so I asked them if MK would impose a policy regarding that they either have to choose PL or MK. I felt completely broken when I saw this reply (https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/applications/my-application-devil_jin/msg39357/#msg39357) from MK. I decided to leave MK after this reply (https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/approved-as-trainees/my-application-devil_jin/msg39357/#msg39357). I like to stay where the members have unity, fun and they have respect for each other. Living in MK felt useless because there I felt no unity, fun (no friends), felt like a slave. After leaving MK It was feeling boring, most of the people invited me to their clans but I rejected them. I thought like "I don't want a temporary relationship, I want a permanent with all the qualities" Here everyone is friendly, they have a strong unity, and there are a lot of events and things I'm excited to work with VU! :)
I'm currently a moderator of European City.
- Discord | Hazard#8320
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I've observed improvement in your DM skills and overall repute in the community. I really appreciate you for that but something just bothering me about the loyalty factor.
We've a lot of members, we are the biggest clan of this community. There will probably be misunderstandings and different school of thoughts in the future, let's say if you are accepted. I'm kinda worried about you leaving the clan just because clan doesn't operate the way you want and accepting the people whom you don't like.
Not sure what eventuated in MK but it looks like the clan policy didn't pleased you which made your way out, eh? If yes, that's problematic, our policies won't remain the same. We revise them based on our member's opinion and voting system.
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I've observed improvement in your DM skills and overall repute in the community. I really appreciate you for that but something just bothering me about the loyalty factor.
We've a lot of members, we are the biggest clan of this community. There will probably be misunderstandings and different school of thoughts in the future, let's say if you are accepted. I'm kinda worried about you leaving the clan just because clan doesn't operate the way you want and accepting the people whom you don't like.
Not sure what eventuated in MK but it looks like the clan policy didn't pleased you which made your way out, eh? If yes, that's problematic, our policies won't remain the same. We revise them based on our member's opinion and voting system.
Thanks for the appreciations.
As I stated in my application, I re-joined UF in 2018 but then stayed like a year. I always support the thing which pleases me. I broke the trust of UF in 2017 but after a year I prove them wrong. I don't think there's a link of departure because it all started from discord channel. I'm just a guy wandering for a place where the members are equal and respect is given equally, hence I found VU as a better clan for their unity, work and events.
You're right almost, I worked a lot for MK aswell but as I stated, They went over me whenever I try to ask any questions regarding the applicants. As a clan member I wouldn't like to ruin the reputation of MK so I would ask the questions, right? It all started from there, felt completely uncomfortable and left. So basically I left because of the management.
And It's not like accepting the people who you don't like. I'll appreciate it hundred percent.. But in MK, it was all because of their management. I just asked a few simple questions (written in the app) and they went over me.
P.S: Waiting for your 1234 post.. :P
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What? Do you want to visit every clan's private boards once?
I doubt your loyalty. No
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You being nice to vus was easy for me to figure out that you were soon going to apply to VU. You being hypocrite is a problem. You have behaviour issues which I firmly think requires to be fixed. I personally think you're a good fighter and a good friend but what is wrong, is wrong. Settle down your issues with PL as we don't want any of our member indulging in silly fights and arguments, We don't need a representative trashing VU's image.
FaF's reply on your leaving topic caught my attention telling that you were told to fix issues with PL. If not being friends, be neutral at least. According to FaF you never wanted to sort it out. Instead, you left when Devil_jin joined MK. Things here don't work this way, We here talk about the issue and try to resolve it collectively and i'm sure MK tried to do the same but you left. This incident suggests how loyal you are.
It's a No for this time.
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I want to clear one thing here that I left because I had a strong feeling that the management is not being fair/equal to me when I asked them a few questions which were obvious, they just disapproved my questions. I have cleared everything in my application but still I'm getting the same messages.
I said not looking at the personal problems, I decided to ask them a few questions and the management objected them. Hence I felt uncomfortable and left the clan.
Every clan member has right to ask questions and obviously they'll think good of the clan. That's why I appreciate all the votes. I chose VU because of friendly people, no negativity shit and a respected place for every member, no value all equal.
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Your loyalty is a doubt for me
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good luck.
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Your loyalty is a doubt for me
I can understand your situation brother. It's not your fault, caste your vote freely. Every clan member has right to vote. :)
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Neutral for now.Everyone has doubts about your loyalty and that makes me hesitant to vote positive.
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You kicked me in ec cuz I pawned you and your mate underalias.
Strict No from me, Control your rage.
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You kicked me in ec cuz I pawned you and your mate underalias.
Strict No from me, Control your rage.
I didn't know you were a member of VU. You were randomly disturbing me while I was fighting with other guys.
You must've known what happens when a person is lagging, at-least in my screen and what do you feel when he disturbs you during a fight. I respect you from the starting till now. Here's a video if you don't believe me.
https://youtu.be/uxHUCCtozbI
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No
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You kicked me in ec cuz I pawned you and your mate underalias.
Strict No from me, Control your rage.
You must've known what happens when a person is lagging, at-least in my screen and what do you feel when he disturbs you during a fight. I respect you from the starting till now. Here's a video if you don't believe me.
https://youtu.be/uxHUCCtozbI
It could be your lag too, as long as I remember you lag more than I do.
You kicked me in ec cuz I pawned you and your mate underalias.
Strict No from me, Control your rage.
I didn't know you were a member of VU. You were randomly disturbing me while I was fighting with other guys.
So if it’s not a VU member you will disrespect him if he disturbs you during fight?
Dude little taunt msgs are fine but your behaviour is not normal when you’re disturbed or wte.
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I didn't know you were a member of VU. You were randomly disturbing me while I was fighting with other guys.
Does it matter if he is a VU member or not? Rules are equal for everyone, I guess, and if the kick was according to rules and not a raged action. you should stick to it otherwise you are accepting that you just took action due to your anger which is a clear rule break of admin rules.
Good luck ;)
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You have to wait more and stay connected with VUs in order to understand you accordingly.
I know about that MK matter and I don't think the reason you left it wasn't valid at all, I'll cast my vote after few days.
You've improved a lot, no doubts. But you need to have control on your anger and ignoring ppl who talk trash.
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You kicked me in ec cuz I pawned you and your mate underalias.
Strict No from me, Control your rage.
I didn't know you were a member of VU. You were randomly disturbing me while I was fighting with other guys.
I see two things here:
1. Looks like you only respect VU members and won't care about your behavior if it's a non VU. That's bad. My applications were denied twice due to this. I am not stopping you from respecting the clan, but learn to respect other people too.
2. Favouritism? You won't punish someone if they're a VU?
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I’ve known you since vccnr I encourage you to work on your attitude and Hangout with us more.
Trainee
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Good luck O0
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I didn't know you were a member of VU. You were randomly disturbing me while I was fighting with other guys.
Does it matter if he is a VU member or not? Rules are equal for everyone, I guess, and if the kick was according to rules and not a raged action. you should stick to it otherwise you are accepting that you just took action due to your anger which is a clear rule break of admin rules.
Good luck ;)
Not only me, I think Kody was with me aswell, he was complaining about the lag. His ping and FPS were fine, at least believe him.. not me
I saw a lot of admins kicking players for being laggy so I also did.. what's wrong in that? I even apologized to you and DiaZ.
You kicked me in ec cuz I pawned you and your mate underalias.
Strict No from me, Control your rage.
I didn't know you were a member of VU. You were randomly disturbing me while I was fighting with other guys.
I see two things here:
1. Looks like you only respect VU members and won't care about your behavior if it's a non VU. That's bad. My applications were denied twice due to this. I am not stopping you from respecting the clan, but learn to respect other people too.
2. Favouritism? You won't punish someone if they're a VU?
I even kick/punish my best friends in EC. There's no favouritism man. What do you think why would I join EC staff.. why would they accept me if they saw favouritism in me..??
There are 2 things which I care the most even if it's a game.
First - Staff matters.
Second - Clan matters.
I just told that if I knew it was a VU member then why would I
even fight with him. You all took it to the wrong way.
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You have to wait more and stay connected with VUs in order to understand you accordingly.
I know about that MK matter and I don't think the reason you left it wasn't valid at all, I'll cast my vote after few days.
You've improved a lot, no doubts. But you need to have control on your anger and ignoring ppl who talk trash.
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what were your argonath bans about? conduct and behavior weren't they?
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Hello Hazard,
Thank you for taking the time and effort to write such an in-depth application. It's well-written and informative.
You mentioned this a couple of times:
I said not looking at the personal problems, I decided to ask them a few questions and the management objected them. Hence I felt uncomfortable and left the clan.
Would you feel comfortable sharing what questions you asked, and why/how they were objected to by management?
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I have written in the application but anyways okay.
Since we know a few PL members left their clan for the sake of the community, like Chocolate and Devil so I asked him the question about what would they choose if they're given a choice of two things, PL or MK. As it was my clan and I had the right to ask questions but they objected them, info given already in the app.
Thanks for the appreciations.
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Good luck but you need change man you was my friend and started killing me for no reason when i was defending you in wars and alot of things for things like it this guys vote no "loyalty" i hope you will be accepted the next time
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I have written in the application but anyways okay.
Since we know a few PL members left their clan for the sake of the community, like Chocolate and Devil so I asked him the question about what would they choose if they're given a choice of two things, PL or MK. As it was my clan and I had the right to ask questions but they objected them, info given already in the app.
Ah, I thought there was something extra.
From that reply you cited on the MK forum I don't see much objection to the idea of asking questions. What I see is Tazz restating MK's policy, which you appeared to be ignoring. If MK's policy is that MK-PL dual membership is okay, then your question was simply irrelevant to a potential applicant.
To me it seems, rather, that you left because you weren't comfortable abiding by MK's policy. Is that correct?
In my eyes this would be fine, we too do not agree with dual-membership, but the difference in reasoning here is important. To spell it out clearly:
Reason 1: they didn't accept me asking questions.
Reason 2: I couldn't accept their clan policy on PL.
Seems to me you left for reason 2.
As it was my clan
Just because you belong to a clan doesn't mean you can individually go against its stated policy.
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I have written in the application but anyways okay.
Since we know a few PL members left their clan for the sake of the community, like Chocolate and Devil so I asked him the question about what would they choose if they're given a choice of two things, PL or MK. As it was my clan and I had the right to ask questions but they objected them, info given already in the app.
Ah, I thought there was something extra.
From that reply you cited on the MK forum I don't see much objection to the idea of asking questions. What I see is Tazz restating MK's policy, which you appeared to be ignoring. If MK's policy is that MK-PL dual membership is okay, then your question was simply irrelevant to a potential applicant.
To me it seems, rather, that you left because you weren't comfortable abiding by MK's policy. Is that correct?
In my eyes this would be fine, we too do not agree with dual-membership, but the difference in reasoning here is important. To spell it out clearly:
Reason 1: they didn't accept me asking questions.
Reason 2: I couldn't accept their clan policy on PL.
Seems to me you left for reason 2.
As it was my clan
Just because you belong to a clan doesn't mean you can individually go against its stated policy.
Hazard is there a reason why you've blocked me on discord cause i tried pming you and i get an error saying that i must been blocked. If you don't give me a reason i'm changing my vote to no.
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Good luck Pro :)
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Trax bruh, to send me messages you have to accept my request on discord.
(https://i.imgur.com/4wCjSH9.png)
I have written in the application but anyways okay.
Since we know a few PL members left their clan for the sake of the community, like Chocolate and Devil so I asked him the question about what would they choose if they're given a choice of two things, PL or MK. As it was my clan and I had the right to ask questions but they objected them, info given already in the app.
Ah, I thought there was something extra.
From that reply you cited on the MK forum I don't see much objection to the idea of asking questions. What I see is Tazz restating MK's policy, which you appeared to be ignoring. If MK's policy is that MK-PL dual membership is okay, then your question was simply irrelevant to a potential applicant.
To me it seems, rather, that you left because you weren't comfortable abiding by MK's policy. Is that correct?
In my eyes this would be fine, we too do not agree with dual-membership, but the difference in reasoning here is important. To spell it out clearly:
Reason 1: they didn't accept me asking questions.
Reason 2: I couldn't accept their clan policy on PL.
Seems to me you left for reason 2.
As it was my clan
Just because you belong to a clan doesn't mean you can individually go against its stated policy.
Yes I didn't know what to call it but yes because I wasn't feeling comfortable with their clan policy on PL.
I personally thought there are less PL members when I was applying to MK and thought we'll work it out because both of the PL members were in-active and I thought there will be nothing to worry about. I'll keep my way and they'll be on their way but soon it went on dual-membership of MK and PL which were out of my mind.
Yes, denying my questions made me un-comfortable a little bit, thought It will stay until the end and that's how I left MK. I didn't like their policy on PL-MK dual membership, yes.
I just thought here things aren't like MK, they get support from every member and they don't consider gangs more than the clans. I won't disappoint anyone if I get a fair chance.
Thanks!
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I think your application is well written, your DM skills are very good and I personally have no issues with your reasoning for leaving MK. Although you've had a dark past, you've since rebuilt your reputation and become a moderator on EC, which I think is very credible.
It's a strong trainee from me. Good luck with the rest of your votes :)
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Trainee.
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I am voting trainee, you have my vote :)
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You being nice to vus was easy for me to figure out that you were soon going to apply to VU. You being hypocrite is a problem. You have behaviour issues which I firmly think requires to be fixed. I personally think you're a good fighter and a good friend but what is wrong, is wrong. Settle down your issues with PL as we don't want any of our member indulging in silly fights and arguments, We don't need a representative trashing VU's image.
FaF's reply on your leaving topic caught my attention telling that you were told to fix issues with PL. If not being friends, be neutral at least. According to FaF you never wanted to sort it out. Instead, you left when Devil_jin joined MK. Things here don't work this way, We here talk about the issue and try to resolve it collectively and i'm sure MK tried to do the same but you left. This incident suggests how loyal you are.
It's a No for this time.
I respect those who deserve. Are you saying that I had no respect for VUs before my application? I'm not that kind of person to be nice for the sake of my goodness.
About what you told about behavior issues. Maybe you may have taken something serious in that VCSF discord. But I often do jokes with KingsBlade. If not, then you must've been talking about those PL stuff which made me a little bit angry. If someone puts their finger in my personal things than why would I stay silent? You should've checked Ibee's report and decide who is fair and unfair. Anyways I'll not focus on useless things.
My above replies will clear everything for you about MK
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VCSF is a complete different thing, we're not even talking about it.
by behaviour issues, I meant by these.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581840865132281856/726889364533018715/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581840865132281856/726889814665723974/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581840865132281856/726890444071632998/unknown.png)
Let's talk about this incident,
You weren't even touched. No one said you anything. Out of nowhere you came into the argument between Deadshot and Qarz.
Deadshot saying you to " Shut the fuck up mate, stop being like these" literally meant that he didn't wanted to argue with you. You on the other hand kept on going.
The fight later on was taken to another level which i don't really would like to discuss.
You said all this when you were in MK. Well, you pretty much showed what clan's ethos mean to you.
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I am voting trainee, you have my vote :)
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still Doubt on loyalty.
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VCSF is a complete different thing, we're not even talking about it.
by behaviour issues, I meant by these.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581840865132281856/726889364533018715/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581840865132281856/726889814665723974/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581840865132281856/726890444071632998/unknown.png)
Let's talk about this incident,
You weren't even touched. No one said you anything. Out of nowhere you came into the argument between Deadshot and Qarz.
Deadshot saying you to " Shut the fuck up mate, stop being like these" literally meant that he didn't wanted to argue with you. You on the other hand kept on going.
The fight later on was taken to another level which i don't really would like to discuss.
You said all this when you were in MK. Well, you pretty much showed what clan's ethos mean to you.
We both argued on a single thing, blackeagle kept provoking me in EC.. then I just pulled a little anger on him. Deadshot came in between and by that I meant he's defending BlackEagle so I started to pull my anger on him aswell.
We both apologized to each other for our bad behavior.. Since we were friends in the past and we both realized our mistakes. It all started from EC when I left from VCSF server.
https://imgur.com/a/VycV9Rk
Well I wouldn't waste my time in the future on useless quarrels. I hope I get a chance.
still Doubt on loyalty.
What? Do you want to visit every clan's private boards once?
I doubt your loyalty. No
Your loyalty is a doubt for me
Neutral for now.Everyone has doubts about your loyalty and that makes me hesitant to vote positive.
I can't make you guys understand but I will surely make you proud one day. If I got a chance.
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Voting Trainee, I hope you stay loyal.
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Well,I never experienced any kind of misbehave so i don't know what kind of rage issues you have got.
That's why i'm changing my vote to T...I hope you will not make me regret it :)
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What if same incident happened in your previous clan happen in VU as well. What will be your decision? Leaving topic or you will try to solve it.
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What if same incident happened in your previous clan happen in VU as well. What will be your decision? Leaving topic or you will try to solve it.
I just think every member is equal here and management listens to everybody here, nobody here consider gang more than VU and I think it should stay. So as long as this rule applies there will be no problems in my prospective.
Even if it happens so I'll try to solve it first. (possibly)
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I just think every member is equal here and management listens to everybody here, nobody here consider gang more than VU and I think it should stay. So as long as this rule applies there will be no problems in my prospective.
Even if it happens so I'll try to solve it first. (possibly)
That possibly at the end grabbed my attention. We've dealt with this many times with so many members, sometimes they let their personal issues or reasoning cloud their judgement on whether whats right or wrong. We will always try to resolve things before they get out of hand and become disrespectful. From what you've explained or the parts i've read I get the perception that you struggle on getting on other peoples shoes and try to understand things from their point of view to try to work to find middle ground.
Our core values are very clear, and trust me we take this very seriously. This is something that most of the members would agree that don't want anymore, silly little dramas being hand out and not being able to be resolved as mature people. Yes, we get the majority of our members are in their teens but here we try to work in everything here not just your VCMP persona.
Other thing that got my attention is the focus on past clans, actions etc... Other than you think VU is friendly and we treat everyone equal. Why do you believe being a VU will be the best decision? What do you want to achieve by joining VU? What are the several aspects that you think by joining VU you will be able to improve?
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I do not wish to see any new PL members in my clan, it is a threat to our privacy.
Now before you all come and jump on me with PL- VU Relation again saying that there are a lot of VUs who are in PL, well the thing is that those members have our trust since long time and they are always there for the clan first.
I have no reason to trust you since you clearly believe that your *gang* is over your clan, that being the difference between you and other VU-PL members.
Clearly my vote will be no every time you apply with the same mentality.
also is the application section visible to VCCNR players only ?
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I do not wish to see any new PL members in my clan, it is a threat to our privacy.
Now before you all come and jump on me with PL- VU Relation again saying that there are a lot of VUs who are in PL, well the thing is that those members have our trust since long time and they are always there for the clan first.
I have no reason to trust you since you clearly believe that your *gang* is over your clan, that being the difference between you and other VU-PL members.
Clearly my vote will be no every time you apply with the same mentality.
also is the application section visible to VCCNR players only ?
I think he is against PL and clans to be exact or any of that dual-gang stuff.
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Then I don't understand why he left MK
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Then I don't understand why he left MK
https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/leaving/departure-2700/msg39384/#new
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Then I don't understand why he left MK
I left because I felt uncomfortable by the dual membership of MK-PL and I felt I'm not getting the respect equally and by seeing that I decided to leave the clan.
I just think every member is equal here and management listens to everybody here, nobody here consider gang more than VU and I think it should stay. So as long as this rule applies there will be no problems in my prospective.
Even if it happens so I'll try to solve it first. (possibly)
That possibly at the end grabbed my attention. We've dealt with this many times with so many members, sometimes they let their personal issues or reasoning cloud their judgement on whether whats right or wrong. We will always try to resolve things before they get out of hand and become disrespectful. From what you've explained or the parts i've read I get the perception that you struggle on getting on other peoples shoes and try to understand things from their point of view to try to work to find middle ground.
Our core values are very clear, and trust me we take this very seriously. This is something that most of the members would agree that don't want anymore, silly little dramas being hand out and not being able to be resolved as mature people. Yes, we get the majority of our members are in their teens but here we try to work in everything here not just your VCMP persona.
Other thing that got my attention is the focus on past clans, actions etc... Other than you think VU is friendly and we treat everyone equal. Why do you believe being a VU will be the best decision? What do you want to achieve by joining VU? What are the several aspects that you think by joining VU you will be able to improve?
Well I understand and believe that trying to resolve things is better. But there are a few PL members who are against me and I just don't like to be friends with those silly people.
But clan is my second priority so what they'll say me I'll try my best for it and here are a few PL members who I respect and their behavior is fine with me, plus they've been in the bad/good times of the clan so that's how I don't feel problems.
I will just continue on my way and do my best for the clan members, will treat PL members equally for the clan but if there are grudges in the clan for their gang stuff (e.g: pulling their gang problems in the clan) so that's a different case and If it's equal for all members so I don't think any problem will take place even if there are dual membership b/w VU and PL
I have learnt that keeping these personal things at a side, try to be equal with gang members is fair.
Being a fair clan from all prospectives weren't enough for me to apply for VU. Here I found a strong unity which is unbreakable and most of the friends are here. I just want to strengthen the clan with my contributions. I just want to achieve peace, fun and a better place for me. I will serve it from all my efforts without making ya'll disappoint. I will get to play with experienced players here and that will improve my skills and knowledge. I want to be a good example for the people who used hacks/cheats in the past.
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I just want to achieve peace.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/81qOJ7Pk7kg/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Trainee
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Good to see you applying here bro, you were always good to me since we met each other.
We had nice duels and you have great dm skills which is really good to have, beside your skills your attitude is not bad.
You just got rage issues like me, but I worked on it and fixed it, I also learnt that even if it's an irl situation (more worse than MD619's dm situation) that got me hurt, mad or even sad the other players wouldn't know if I have problems irl or not, in the end we have to grow up.
Same goes to you, MD619 didn't know that he was lagging and even if he knew you should've not done that as long as this is a dm server and he didn't do anything wrong.
To be honest I feel like you can work on this and fix it as well but whats hard to fix is the loyalty, I really hope you fix that because its more important than getting raged so fast, and despite all of this we don't hate any other clans as long as they respect us and even if they don't "respect" and "loyalty" are our titles.
You deserve a chance buddy but please consider fixing what I mentioned in my comment.
Trainee.
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neutral
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Well I understand and believe that trying to resolve things is better. But there are a few PL members who are against me and I just don't like to be friends with those silly people.
*claps*
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What are you guys on about here lol?
You have problems with one or two members of a community and you talk shit about it as a whole. Also i find some of you talk about some MK-PL dual-gang or some membership thingy. PL doesn't operate as a gang or something, it's just like the Arab community of vcmp but the difference is that some members do wear the *PL tag whereas they shouldn't be having it on their nickname because it indicates more of a gang or clan, but if it's fine with their clan policy then it's okay.
PL is not a clan but a community and if any PL member is a part of VU or MK then obviously they have to consider their clan as first priority in VCMP, so this below quoted condition doesn't apply at all. The only difference is that VU is not okay with it's member wearing additional tags whereas MK has no issues with it until their rules and policies are not violated.
I couldn't accept their clan policy on PL.
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What are you guys on about here lol?
You have problems with one or two members of a community and you talk shit about it as a whole. Also i find some of you talk about some MK-PL dual-gang or some membership thingy. PL doesn't operate as a gang or something, it's just like the Arab community of vcmp but the difference is that some members do wear the *PL tag whereas they shouldn't be having it on their nickname because it indicates more of a gang or clan, but if it's fine with their clan policy then it's okay.
PL is not a clan but a community and if any PL member is a part of VU or MK then obviously they have to consider their clan as first priority in VCMP, so this below quoted condition doesn't apply at all. The only difference is that VU is not okay with it's member wearing additional tags whereas MK has no issues with it until their rules and policies are not violated.
I couldn't accept their clan policy on PL.
Optimistic, but it's not as simple as you say it is.
There is a gang, people play together, they talk, say things, they even say things which are not meant to be said.
What kind of gang won't effect other clan's privacy ?
There was an indian gang, there were people from different clan and trust me it is way old then PL or even the parent version of PL (T.F.) and nobody got a problem with that.
If everyone is having problem with that, then somewhere you all are wrong.
I know most of PL will hate this but I don't want any more PL - VU relation, I am and I will always be against this kind of relation.
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I know some recent happenings must have caused confusions but it's not how you see it. 50% of VCMP players from our community are now a part of MK, some are in VU and some are clan-less such as me. We don't operate as a gang or something in VCMP anymore. We do contribute with providing server or forum host, mapping and modeling and few other things but not a gang or some shit.
Some people have problems because they think that PL works as a gang which is against their policies, and i'm sure things would go okay if such confusions are not being made. I know it's the tag which makes it look like more of a gang but then it's player's choice along with their clan policies. VU doesn't allow any tag and the players don't put any whereas MK is cool with it unless any rule or policy is being violated, So there's no point or logic talking about some MK-PL or VU-PL membership. I do understand that you don't want any relation and I'm not asking for it, but then i disagree with the confusions that you call community a gang.
I have stated what was needed, I hope you understand and pardon me for the interruption in application discussion topic. You have made a good choice @Hazard, Good luck with the application :thumbsup:
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Trust problems are on your recruits' end, has nothing to do with their involvement in a group of friends with the sole difference being a tag that they wear to express their sense of belonging and pride.
The whole thing sounds silly, what I can understand is that you're against VU members having close friends/a group of friends that they chat with on discord just like any other group that hangs out and wanders in the streets.
if there happens to be an information leak, it is your members that aren't worthy of the membership, because if someone turns out to be exposing you out, then it's their problem and he should be sanctioned accordingly.
Either way, It is still possible to have private info leaked but you can't deprive people of having close friends and in this case, friends who define themselves as an organized group, because you're being paranoid, you can't be 100% sure your members are going to leak info but banning VU members from joining PL is outright exaggerated and a lazy attempt to put an end to this problem,
There is really no difference as few members from both sides may still be friends, but they don't belong to that gang, so if a VU member is idiot enough not to know how critical private information is and happens to have shared it with a member from the other side then you'll find out this decision is useless.
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Sorry no one asked your opinion here and it's application topic not a debate topic.
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Last chance from my side, Trainee
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Going with no.
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some are in VU and some are clan-less such as me. We don't operate as a gang or something in VCMP anymore.
clanless due to PL since you left SS for PL ;) you are a bad example >:D
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Someone rename this topic to VU-PL policy debate.
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Trainee, my friend.
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I don't care about what happened in MK. Even what happened between you and PL doesn't attract me. All I care about is you don't cause problems in the clan due to some outsiders.
Also, people are trying to be funny and applications section isn't the place for this. Please consider posting something relevant to the topic rather than collecting some funny reacts.
Trainee.
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I know you from a long time, you use to play in VL server with Samurai.Jack nick and also some others nicks too which you have mentioned, at that time i found you a good guy but now i don't like your attitude and the way you handle things!
I am going with a NO this time, goodluck!
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Good Luck:)
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Hey Hazard,
After thorough mutual consensus amongst VU members, We've decided that this application is going to get Denied. Our opinions clearly suggest that what you lack. You need to work on your behavioural issues and prove your loyalty as well. I would advise you to hang out with more VUs and spend some healthy time with them. Your application was great but you need to overcome the lacking factors in order to have that VU tag beside your nick. Although the poll count shows more positive votes than negative votes but that ratio is not satisfactory.
Thank you for your patience
Poll count,
Trainee - 15 votes
Neutral - 1 vote
No - 13 votes
Good luck for the next one.
-VU Recruitment Team.
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Player: Hazard
Opponent: [SS]FulToN_619
Results: 1-2 :: (5-0, [SS]FulToN_619 | 5-3, Hazard | 5-4, Hazard)
Winner: Hazard
Screenshots (for proof): https://i.imgur.com/5lCWB3q.png
Comments (if any): unexpected. good game. :thumbsup:
Admin who watched: [ss*]keLvin_ and [SS]Deko. who joined on the last set.
Challonge updated.
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