i swear these 1st world countries......the way i see it, they'll stop at nothing to make the movie surrogates a reality some day if they keep this shit up
How to know what's my address? i want to get some coins. ;D
i swear these 1st world countries......the way i see it, they'll stop at nothing to make the movie surrogates a reality some day if they keep this shit up
heh.. I liked that movie. But I don't see how digital currency = cyborgs :P
One of the things mentioned about Silk Road and its implementation of BitCoins is that it is tied, in some way, to the US dollar. This is essential really. If the 'currency' is to grow to a size whereby it is commonly used, then it would have to have all the checks, balances and controls that any other currency in the world has. The relationship between value of goods/services and the amount of real money spent would be incredibly volatile if there weren't.
My opinion is that no, this isn't the currency of the future, there are 1000 reasons why it wouldn't work.
Skirmant, everything can be forged, trust me.
The fact they're untraceable just helps people to hack them.
Think of it like a geme's exe file, the company issues out a real deal, yet hackers create their own version to tinker with the game. Yet, a game exe doesn't virtually exist :PSkirmant, everything can be forged, trust me.That may be true, but I think you're confused what a BitCoin is. The truth is it doesn't virtually exist :P
Think of it like a geme's exe file, the company issues out a real deal, yet hackers create their own version to tinker with the game. Yet, a game exe doesn't virtually exist :P
Still it's located in a settings folder.Think of it like a geme's exe file, the company issues out a real deal, yet hackers create their own version to tinker with the game. Yet, a game exe doesn't virtually exist :P
A BitCoin is not a file located on your computer that you can edit. It's an agreement between every dedi client on the planet that YOU HAVE it. That's based on the history of all transactions. It's a remote concept that has no direct way to be influenced. Can you see why forging is impossible now? ;)
And game developers don't give a shit about exe files. They know that players like to play their games without inserting a DVD each time :S
Still it's located in a settings folder.
just fyi
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19633980
Well I think it's about time I eat my hat. Skirmant, you must be one very rich man right now.
Gonna buy one with a mate once the price comes down a little bit following the spike this morning/yesterday :D
Then after a few weeks, I noticed the prices were going up pretty fast. When there was a pretty big drop, I bought 6.6 BTC. Worth 744 USD (Around 550 euros).
Along the way, I started using trading algorithms. Using the EMA algorithm (google it) I bought and sold those BTC for around 3 month.
And here we are.
My 744 USD is now 2182 USD.
Funky how this turned out. Thank you Skirmant :)
Nice one Skirm :)
BUT I WAS RIGHT, IT CAN BE STOLEN!
http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-falls-after-china-warning-2013-12
Bitcoins are already outdated, it's time to invest in Dogecoin (http://dogecoin.com/) mining.Read about those a few days ago, doge is mens.
Bitcoins are already outdated, it's time to invest in Dogecoin (http://dogecoin.com/) mining.
Also, since it's Christmas I'll send 10k doges each to everyone that posts their address ;D
Also, since it's Christmas I'll send 10k doges each to everyone that posts their address ;D
Gimme.
DQFVZWZk9223Kc2u5oLXhcaymnMmt95y2Y
DTJy6uuJHL3RP1wMdwxQr3rnJYHpmBKgWC (qt)
http://doges.org/index.php/topic,5283.0.html
I honestly can't tell if you guys are seriously investing in Dogecoins, but if you are, carefully consider that you would be investing in a currency that revolves around an Internet meme, and that people are actually taking the time to hack 21,000,000 of these joke coins (http://venturebeat.com/2013/12/26/dogecoin-a-virtual-currency-that-started-as-a-joke-gets-real-with-its-first-big-hack/).
If this actually does take off, and somewhere, maybe years down the road, investment bankers start buying and selling "Doge," I think that'd say a lot about the Bit/Dogecoin community and the value of cryptocurrencies.
But a lot of memes die out, and people forget about them. What if the doge meme gets forgotten, chances are, the currency will be as well :P
imho will take it to the moon └(°ᴥ°)┘(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbuttcoin.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F12%2FDogeTakeoff-lWUGwNX.jpg&hash=4f3df294042243a7bf4b7c51654731012ad3370e)
1 doge = US$0.0019
Prepare your butts for ZeroCash, a cryptocurrency developed by professional cryptographers that will provide 100% untraceable transactions.Bump, how's that shaping up?
I predict that it will have the 3th biggest marketcap by the end of the year
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/465963763028340736
Prepare your butts for ZeroCash, a cryptocurrency developed by professional cryptographers that will provide 100% untraceable transactions.Bump, how's that shaping up?
I predict that it will have the 3th biggest marketcap by the end of the year
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/465963763028340736
What happened with Dogecoin.
I've got like 10k.....
Can I trade in?
10k Dogecoin for Unlimited ingame dogecoin?
So, basically, you can just spend them on the server? You can't convert them back in dogecoins?Can I trade in?
10k Dogecoin for Unlimited ingame dogecoin?
No. All Dogecoin in the server is real, so if you deposit 10k, you get 10k.
So, basically, you can just spend them on the server? You can't convert them back in dogecoins?Can I trade in?
10k Dogecoin for Unlimited ingame dogecoin?
No. All Dogecoin in the server is real, so if you deposit 10k, you get 10k.
Ain't the undernet / dark web and deep web use bitcoins for currency, like Silk Road?A long time ago, yeah. Today it's used for just about anything and everything :p
After 3 years of anticipation Zerocash has been finally released! The network went live (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/) over a week ago.Are they an improvement over BTC's? If yes, in what way?
https://z.cash
https://explorer.zcha.in
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash
http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf
If I understand correctly. Bitcoin's transactions contain addresses and amount, which are pushed to the blockchain. zerocash only doesn't contain the addresses or amount, but are still checked by the blockchain.After 3 years of anticipation Zerocash has been finally released! The network went live (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/) over a week ago.Are they an improvement over BTC's? If yes, in what way?
https://z.cash
https://explorer.zcha.in
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash
http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf
So if I ever decide to kidnap someone that's how I ask for ransomIf I understand correctly. Bitcoin's transactions contain addresses and amount, which are pushed to the blockchain. zerocash only doesn't contain the addresses or amount, but are still checked by the blockchain.After 3 years of anticipation Zerocash has been finally released! The network went live (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/) over a week ago.Are they an improvement over BTC's? If yes, in what way?
https://z.cash
https://explorer.zcha.in
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash
http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf
Which means it's more private, and absolutely no one will know who send what to who. They just know someone send something, and didn't spend it twice.
Yes.So if I ever decide to kidnap someone that's how I ask for ransomIf I understand correctly. Bitcoin's transactions contain addresses and amount, which are pushed to the blockchain. zerocash only doesn't contain the addresses or amount, but are still checked by the blockchain.After 3 years of anticipation Zerocash has been finally released! The network went live (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/) over a week ago.Are they an improvement over BTC's? If yes, in what way?
https://z.cash
https://explorer.zcha.in
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash
http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf
Which means it's more private, and absolutely no one will know who send what to who. They just know someone send something, and didn't spend it twice.
Skirmant, you're alive?! Nice to see you here old man!
I still have 0.4 bitcoin - it is now worth 20% more than when I bought it 3 years ago. Not a huge gain, but not bad. Hopefully Z Cash won't cause my precious bitcoin to die ;D
i swear these 1st world countries......the way i see it, they'll stop at nothing to make the movie surrogates a reality some day if they keep this shit up
This virtual currency is not useful for your age people since you got nothing important to do with it.He can to buy some drugs as you said. ;)
Actually everything will be under total control of government in very close future. So no sense to discuss it.I don't think so, either another digi currency will overtake or it will eventually collapse, but government has got nothing to do with it since it will be more anonymous banking as now.
I don't think so, either another digi currency will overtake or it will eventually collapse, but government has got nothing to do with it since it will be more anonymous banking as now.Government is already controlling everything around banking, internet connection... It's very easy to disallow virtual money, maybe you will able to own it as a hashes/keys, but it will be useless. You will be unable to sell it for something real if your government will disallow it.
I don't think so, either another digi currency will overtake or it will eventually collapse, but government has got nothing to do with it since it will be more anonymous banking as now.Government is already controlling everything around banking, internet connection... It's very easy to disallow virtual money, maybe you will able to own it as a hashes/keys, but it will be useless. You will be unable to sell it for something real if your government will disallow it.
Still I exchange btc to hard cash and likewise.It means there is weak control yet.
weak control and high security when it comes to BTC ;)Still I exchange btc to hard cash and likewise.It means there is weak control yet.
weak control and high security when it comes to BTC ;)If you able to exchange it in other country and import your money easy - it's means no control here.
weak control and high security when it comes to BTC ;)If you able to exchange it in other country and import your money easy - it's means no control here.
What about making a lot of bitcoins (either by mining or getting paid for your unique service) and goto a country where btc is legal and withdraw your 'x' number of $ via ATM.It depends on the laws of your own country. Is some countries (non-UN) you even able to buy a slave, but it's not means your country will support it. The laws of your country is important because you are under control there.
What about making a lot of bitcoins (either by mining or getting paid for your unique service) and goto a country where btc is legal and withdraw your 'x' number of $ via ATM.It depends on the laws of your own country. Is some countries (non-UN) you even able to buy a slave, but it's not means your country will support it. The laws of your country is important because you are under control there.
What he's saying is that, if he were to go to a country where BTC's are legal (e.g. Croatia), and withdraw the money from an atm like the one above, no one at customs would give the slightest fuck about it. Because it's cash, how would the custom's officer know it came from BTC's?There is such thing as "origin of money" in the law. Don't think you are oversmart and government is fools. Just nobody cares about such things yet, because it's still hard to control.
Use logic
Origin of money? A crackhead chimpanzee could have handed me an ''x'' amount of cash, and in case someone asks I can say I found it on the street. No way to disprove origin of cash. Credit cards and bank accounts yes, but not cash.What he's saying is that, if he were to go to a country where BTC's are legal (e.g. Croatia), and withdraw the money from an atm like the one above, no one at customs would give the slightest fuck about it. Because it's cash, how would the custom's officer know it came from BTC's?There is such thing as "origin of money" in the law. Don't think you are oversmart and government is fools. Just nobody cares about such things yet, because it's still hard to control.
Use logic
Origin of money? A crackhead chimpanzee could have handed me an ''x'' amount of cash, and in case someone asks I can say I found it on the street. No way to disprove origin of cash. Credit cards and bank accounts yes, but not cash.It's possible to track by number, especially if you got it from ATM. But I think you not got the point.
ATM's are owned by private banks. Banks are obligated to keep a customer's account credentials and transfers private, and accessible to only him.Origin of money? A crackhead chimpanzee could have handed me an ''x'' amount of cash, and in case someone asks I can say I found it on the street. No way to disprove origin of cash. Credit cards and bank accounts yes, but not cash.It's possible to track by number, especially if you got it from ATM. But I think you not got the point.
Banks are obligated toTo show any info about client for requests due legal reasons.
With a court order, yes. Which is only requested due to theft/fraud that surpasses cca 400$. And customs officers don't have the legal authority to even request those.Banks are obligated toTo show any info about client for requests due legal reasons.
With a court order, yes. Which is only requested due to theft/fraud that surpasses cca 400$. And customs officers don't have the legal authority to even request those.
It depends on the laws of your own country.You lost the point about government's part. It's not about just "customs". What are you going to prove? You technically able to use bitcoin currently? It's clearly it is.
ATM's are owned by private banks. Banks are obligated to keep a customer's account credentials and transfers private, and accessible to only him.
It's possible to track by number, especially if you got it from ATM. But I think you not got the point.It doesn't make any sense if the value of $ is less, and no fool is gonna spend the same currency if the amount of withdrawn $ is too high :)
BTC is 10x more private than a normal bank account since BTC doesn't keep/ask for your personal info as much as bank requires.But everyone able to see transactions :)
Then which government have got rights to question him?If government is do not cares about real source of money then you can sell BTC/human organs/children/drugs in others countries, just care about your privacy during deals and wash money. Profit.
It doesn't make any sense if the value of $ is less, and no fool is gonna spend the same currency if the amount of withdrawn $ is too highI'ts only because it's still hard to control currently. So they ignoring small cases. My point was about future. Trends of it we can see already.
But everyone able to see transactions :)But still you can't see who did those transaction :) (example: 'a' sent 1 btc (787 USD) to 892J4pUCAkjr5O6d7LnPksfVjm3pEl0hKgZ)
If government is do not cares about real source of money then you can sell BTC/human organs/children/drugs in others countries, just care about your privacy during deals and wash money. Profit.Its not that government doesn't care about the origin of the money it is that BTC customers are tricking government by laundering money using bitcoin banking :)
I'ts only because it's still hard to control currently. So they ignoring small cases. My point was about future. Trends of it we can see already.It says 'someone' sent x$ to 'btc address' (see the first quote) and no intelligence agency can track that crazy btc address since bitcoins itself don't have it in their database as BTC always generate random identities or wallet address as per your request.
But still you can't see who did those transaction :) (example: 'a' sent 1 btc (787 USD) to 892J4pUCAkjr5O6d7LnPksfVjm3pEl0hKgZ)They can see an exchange from his 892J4pUCA* to real money. (don't even tell about mixers and etc shit for semi-crime).
Its not that government doesn't care about the origin of the money it is that BTC customers are tricking government by laundering money using bitcoin banking :)It's that, and it's only reason why you still able to use it when it's illegal. Just it's not expedient to spend their resources to you (currently, since need high resources for that (but not in future). So you can feel you are tricking government using bitcoin.
It says 'someone' sent x$ to 'btc address' (see the first quote) and no intelligence agency can track that crazy btc address since bitcoins itself don't have it in their database as BTC always generate random identities or wallet address as per your request.Lole. It lookign as "crazy btc address" for you only, not for PC and all transactions is available for public in sites like https://blockchain.info/
They can see an exchange from his 892J4pUCA* to real money. (don't even tell about mixers and etc shit for semi-crime).Can they findout who is 892J4pUCA* ? I don't think so , if you say yes then you may explain it :)
It's that, and it's only reason why you still able to use it when it's illegal. Just it's not expedient to spend their resources to you (currently, since need high resources for that (but not in future). So you can feel you are tricking government using bitcoin.You didn't understand my point, all I was saying is 'government can't fuck with btc money launderers :) use btc and convince yourself man ;)
Lole. It lookign as "crazy btc address" for you only, not for PC and all transactions is available for public in sites like https://blockchain.info/Public site? omg :D blockchain is not a public site lol, it is more like a database for blocks and the URL you linked here isn't public site either :P The transaction is shown but it doesn't leak anyone's privacy lol, every second you see millions transaction in blockchain, it doesn't mean they are telling you 'person' sent '$' to 'person2' its telling hash hash hash :D
And as I said before they will identify you when you will link it with real world. (if you are needed for them)
Can they findout who is 892J4pUCA* ? I don't think soSure blockchain is not site, just that site storing public info of blockchain. And yes, it's public site. It's easy to find any 892J4pUCA* in your history (not 'preson', it's about your 'crazy adress') since each transaction is public, they will identify your real name when you exchange it to real cash in exchange services (again: if gov. care about it). There is no such thing as privacy for government. It is an idol for naive public.
government can't fuck with btc money launderers :) use btc and convince yourself man
blockchain is not a public site lol, it is more like a database for blocks and the URL you linked here isn't public site either :P The transaction is shown but it doesn't leak anyone's privacy lol, every second you see millions transaction in blockchain, it doesn't mean they are telling you 'person' sent '$' to 'person2' its telling hash hash hash :D
idk wtf they gain by knowing the BTC address lmao, maybe you can send em some cash :D
since each transaction is public, they will identify your real name when you exchange it to real cash in exchange services
Brokers are doing the exchange service which is illegal too since there are no exchange service in those countries where btc are illegal, soSo brokers are illegal too. It's just a crime market.
now who copied the (from public transaction details) sender address/code to trace someone who prefer to make deal to exchange coins from a broker?After that broker will be arrested some data may be given from him to gov (or even before via backdoors in his computer). So it would be basically equal as any crime. Only expediency (spending resources/results) is important here, and since progress bring automatisation that spending of resources will be less day by day.
So brokers are illegal too. It's just a crime market.Ofco who said it is not? :)
After that broker will be arrested some data may be given from him to gov (or even before via backdoors in his computer). So it would be basically equal as any crime. Only expediency (spending resources/results) is important here, and since progress bring automatisation that spending of resources will be less day by day.
Ofco who said it is not? :)Then what point to discuss? Bitcoin for semi-crime currently? Yes. For major crime it will not help. It's just a toy for geeks.
I don't see any major chanceYes you don't.
A BTC miner (basically a broker) is not that noob to execute received stub(post backdoor) in his working PCMost of them is *too noobs* because even don't know how computer forensics works. You don't need to make target to "execute" anything. There is alot of vulnerability in software and network connection is under government's control as alot of software developers too... Your privacy very-well protected because only one reason - government doesn't really care about you.
I lost my password :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(You're not alone.
If you're talking about Daydream, Skirmant is in IRC right now
Ah, what wild 5 years for digital currency this has been, I think it's time to revive the thread a bit.I'm actually mining bitcoins with my Antminer S3. It's an old machine because there are newer ones like S5, S7 and S9 but it makes profits.
Bitcoin is now worth approx 10,000 USD right now, to make a recap it was 10 USD when I originally made this thread, which means if you put in $100 back in 2012 you'd have 100k worth of Bitcoin right now.
Next stop: world-wide adoption and $100,000 :^3
Dafuq now 1 bitcoin >= 15,000 USD$Now my bitcoins worth $42 :D (0.00275113 BTC)
damn i had like 0.0000150 bitcoins and suddenly lost em all ._:Dafuq now 1 bitcoin >= 15,000 USD$Now my bitcoins worth $42 :D (0.00275113 BTC)
If someone wants to earn a little bit of free bitcoins I recommend this faucet, I'm actually trying to win the lottery.
https://freebitco.in/?r=2349934
You have chances of winning from 0.00000013 BTC to 0.01288814 BTC
Edit:
This other faucet is for dogecoin.
http://freedoge.co.in/?r=521225
holy shit did skirmant get 100k for real? where does he live in lithuania? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Juan is thinking about all of the kush he can buy with 100000$
thought I'd share my xpBitcoin mining with GPU is nearly impossible these days, I think you mined some altcoin and exchanged it for bitcoin or you mined bitcoin like 8 years ago.
A few months ago, Bitcoin had a huge raise, I started mining using guiminer and bfgminer with slushpool(https://slushpool.com/home/), mined bitcoins for a lot of time(i had like 750 hash/s).
I recommend guiminer for new BTC miners, it's simple and easy to use for newbs.
bfgminer is a little complicated, at least imo. But the yield I got from BFGMiner was a lot more than that of guiminer.
Many people fail to understand how mining actually works, before you even start getting involved in Bitcoins,
PRECAUTION: Investing/mining Bitcoins in many country is strictly illegal and is a federal crime. Investors can face years in jail. So look up before you start. But there are countries, like India, it's neither illegal nor legal. The government discourage the use of bitcoins, and they give no guarantee for those who suffer losses.
If you're looking to invest, you should probably prepare yourself for losses, since these stuff happen all the time.
Keep track of the prices, when you feel that bitcoins hitting a jackpot, it is then that you invest.
That's probably all about investing.
Mining. Which most of you can do, but no guaranteed success. You must remember most of these self-proclaimed "miners" are hoax, they provide you free satoshi's for every 10 minutes or each hour. DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THESE. These are all fake, and these apps are produced by assholes who want to make money out of ad revenue on their sites.
You should remember that Satoshis or Bitcoins NEVER come for free(at least most of the times). If a miner by itself gives you free bitcoins, uninstall that app right away.
And how mining works? Simple, there are several companies in this world who are willing to pay your GPU(Graphical Processing Unit), how? Simple, your computers GPU solves a math problem(not kidding) for a specific company, who then pay you in small amounts. These small amounts start building up and you got a stack of satoshis.
Remember, your PC must have a GPU. PC's with APUs will not work, any apps claiming that they can mine with an APU system, is once again, a scam.
Pools: There are many pools, for you to mine bitcoins, how do these pools work?
It is actually the pool which solves a problem using your GPU, then this pool gives a "share" to you.
Why do they give me some and keep for themselves?
That's how the owner of a pool, makes money.
I've had great success with Slush's pool, I've mined about 20,000 INR in the past 3 months, (i.e about 320$), that too I used to mine for a couple of hours everyday. And I haven't mined bitcoins for like, the past 3 weeks.
If I'd just mined bitcoins 24/7 I'd have probably mined more than 1 Bitcoins by now.
Wallets: This is where the bitcoins you mined, are stored. I recommend Electrum to everyone, since it is trustworthy, that is all a wallet needs to have. (or the one Signal uses, seems pretty legit)
Mining bitcoins isn't as easy as it sounds. You might not find success in a pool you choose. And also note that, the greater GPU you have, the more you get paid.
Indians can make a lot of money out of Bitcoins if enough time and hardwork is given to it. Since Indian electric bills are effectively very low. The amount of profit you make is mind-blowing.
Any doubts, ask me below!
Happy investing/mining!
Guess it needs a multicore CPU for it to work?From what I know at the moment, it uses mainly your GPU in which it making it up to 100% usage in the background, unlike gaming in which uses lesser excepting if you got a paki pc.
Now the prices are out of the world, c'mon man, who wants to pay thousands of dollars for a GPU lolI'd rather buy a new gaming console for that price to be honest. But, wait, there isn't VCMP for them and it is harder coming to fighting ffs.
Who's hyped for the golden bull market of 2020/2021?
Who's hyped for the golden bull market of 2020/2021?
A what what?
It's pretty based
It's pretty based, I own some, including a bunch of ETH tokens like Chainlink and Klerosi got eth and link but was too late to get my hands on btc :(
(https://w1r3.net/aJhSqb.png)
Short term 50+% profit in a day: Binance Coinprobably this whole year
No argument.
How long it will last though, no clue
Bitcoin hit $50,000 mark yesterday :oGAAAAAYYYY