Its actually an old domain. If you search for mta sa and go to the main page,you'll see that.When you click the download button,you won't see anything related to MTA:VC. Better do a search before making nonsense comments.

Quote from: honor on October 06, 2017, 04:58:17 pm

More like you're coward, still remember that story about vcmp toxic community over xe written by you, followed by your farewell from this  community, yet you couldn't resist making a return to participate in it's controversies, I seriously hate part timers.

Guess you make a point.90 percent of the VCMP is the contraversies and 10 percent for the game.Anyways my intention was not what you think.Thats your opinion I respect

Normally I wouldn't come out and stress what I think about all of this,but I really had a feeling inbetween frustration and cringe at the same time.This is worse than anything i witnessed through my journey at VCMP.Hereby I needed to comment.

You are creating a hack and keep that as a secret.You get exposed and then you feel sorry for that and decide to quit VCMP.Because you can get away with that.While doing that,you also request some mercy for what you've done.I feel the frustration all the way on my body now.Do you ever think about the consequences of whatever you do with your life?

Isn't that even worse to not think about what could happen in the end than creating and distributing the hack itself?You've given a significant damage to the game and stole time from the development team and killed any interest that new players could depend themselves on.I'm sorry but this is nowhere near tolerable or reversable mistake.

I strongly recommend to cut any access to connect the game and forums as well.This does not deserve any modesty of any kind.

I thought you left the VC:MP community?

Yes I did,sometimes I get in touch with you guys via irc and forums,just barely

Hello dear members of VCMP community!

Before I begin,I would like to say that Im sorry for this post.Im not sure if it's the right place to post.But I found here to be more accurate for my goal.Please give it some time and read.Though,there are only a few to do.

I will try to cover the happens from when I believe everything got worse slowly to this day.Obviously,I'm trying to select my words carefully to not insult/hurt anyone to cause a drama.At the end of the day,I will be out of VC-MP.

At the very beggining of my VC-MP journey,I thought it would be like all of the other Multiplayer games and had restrictions to save the community from the toxicty.

What I mean by toxicity?

• People are allowed to swear as they want
• People are allowed to use Personal Information of the others
• No respect for the work of Developers
• Blind grouping
• Favoritism
• No actual punishments in case of important situations
• Rasicm/No respect for the Religions

Lets go through the items of list and explain them.

People are allowed to swear as they want

I believe all of the servers support that.People are free to swear to other's families.They make the fun of others' mistakes(e.g as bad english).Including other's pysichal appeance,their ages etc.Which causes to drive community to act like they want.Which,is quite wrong.Even though server admins trying to punish some of those actions,there is really no stopping it.


People are allowed to use Personal Information of the others

This is usally forums-related stuff.I see people trolling others using the picures of them.Even photoshopping them to look more funny.Since majority of the players are under 17-18,they dont really know what it might mean before sharing their personal informations to people whom they dont know.

The so called WK clan has done this to innocent kids,just look at them how they are trolling.
http://wk.clan.su/chlenix.htm

It's an important case to go on and give punishment to them.But that kind of things were never even considered.


No respect for the work of Developers

A minor ,yet a toxic case.A group of people always find a way to dislike what developers have been doing all this time.Im not talking about only VCMP devs,but server devs are also included.Sometimes they go further and ruin the work(DDoS,spam etc).


Blind grouping

This is a major problem.When a group of people take a side,they just wont care about the facts.They will keep ignoring.There is a clear example:Russian/ON side vs Anti-Russian/ON side.

When we look at the Russian/ON side,they are mostly like I mentioned before

The problem is,VCMP 's daily active playerbase is filled with 10-15 years old players that have no maturity and no understanding of community.They do not play it for fun:Instead doing it to feed their egos by being good at close-range 1v1 battles,doing good headshots and many more examples to list.They want draw attentions,they like to use their small victories as a weapon to overcome their haters.

At this point,we see countless stupid dramas firing up and retarded opinions floating around VCMP community.No-senseness is now a common thing.Just go ask them why they are doing this,they will keep doing the same shit.

Now considering this all above,these kind of players want to be with power.So WK is the only thing they can stick with.Whenever they get online,these players pick their skin and play with them.And WK players does not call them 'vassals' anymore.Because WK always gets outnumbered at some point of the kriegs and their number gets raise in time.If it was any official clan in VCMP,same thing would happen.

But the Anti-Russian/ON side are mostly the people who contributes to this community and are good people.There might be some exceptions though.


Favoritism

Yeah that happens most of the times in servers.People show favoritsm for those who are their friends or someone they can benefit from.Might that be,reports,admin applications etc.There are countless amount of this .

No actual punishments in case of important situations

For example,F1 Hacks:When it's found out,those used used it were banned from only a few servers.They should have been banned from entire VCMP.Some of the servers have benefited from this to gain more players(just because they didnt do that on their server).However,I know which servers were they,But Im not willing to name them.They have always backstabbed the community on these kind of situations.This also can be called favoritism of some sort.


Rasicm/No respect for the Religions

This was always an issue.Those actions were ended up with Bans,but it was never stopped.Sometimes they were tolerated.Clearly a sign to say the current community has toxic people.(Russian's VCMP JIHAD video.This is not fun if you can do empaty).

So what to do?This was always simple to answer.There are tens of people here who are quite good at programming and who absolutely knows whats best for the community.You can collabrate and put leverages on bad things.So that people wont even try.

I always planned to post this before at some point,But I didnt want to leave VCMP in the real terms.I also saw good things this community have been doing.Also that I was involved in The Revival of XE which started very well and ended up because of the kind of people I have explained about above.

And No,I wont blame anyone here.No names.
Im sure Im not the only one to think in that way.I just gave my input about what happens in VCMP

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So,Im leaving from the entire VCMP effective immadiately.You can exclude me from the parts Im involved.This post will be shown on places that Im confident.Im sorry for this.Good bye and good luck with your future endeavours.
Regards.

Honor | Omer L. Serdar

By the way,One thing needs to be adressed

I think your lack of apology after not replying for 11 days is rude, I think you've ignored most of what myself and others put forward in this thread

But

Actually I wasn't aware that Aki is still active, I thought he had essentially abandoned VC:MP and XE.
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This does change things

So you were going to do things in your way without asking any of us(xe staff).Untill the point you said this,you didnt mind aki responding to this.I think this is quite obvious what Im pointing out here.

And I think only one point summerize why you dont wish to do it:Things didnt process as you expected.So no.Inputs of people around here has no relation to aki.He has to wait to say on behalf of us.

Edit:- that last sentence is not fair, actually. Zatch, Honor and Fercho have posted, but they all seem to have appeared quite neutral - neither positive nor negative. Honor especially should be thanked for his input into this conversation. But where are the others?

Thank you,but i was quite positive on my posts

Actually , I 've tried to draw attentions of a point. I wanted people to focus on both you and aki with the posts i made.That helped alot to see what you actually think.Because everytime you made one of your traditionally "excessively long" posts,I felt they were lacking something.Unless this last one you made.

This was more personal focused and has more information about him from your point of view.

At the beggining of problems,I thought,if we hired a scripter and a manager,things would have gone smoothly and atlest the server would be online.

Surely it was not possible.Because all of the scripters were working for different kind of projects.As for the management,i have thought of a couple of names which i wont tell,but it was also not possible due the same reason i said for scripters.

While our current admins and moderators were discussing reviving of the server,George was teasing us with rare appearences.

aki said he can help the execution process,but rest was upto us.

Somehow George managed to release a private beta testing server.I can say we had alot of bugs in there.And wasnt actually the old XE that we expected.Community was willing the see the old XE.So we had it's discussion.


George said he started working on it ,Nothing happened since then.

Again somehow (which i still cant understand),we've seen Charley's post and this drew the most attention of aki.

Since he has rights of XE,this topic supposed to be reply-to-reply between Aki and Charley.A discussion from beggining to the point we are at.

Honestly,aki's silence in this thread frustrates me the most.Thats why I felt obligated and came up with question marks which also aki might have had.

As for myself,Im not trying to fight anyone here.All of the opinions of mine,are sincere and not to save anyone.My position in XE can be limited,but opinions are not.My self-trust is always full since I think im trying to do the right things.This means i have no fear of losing my level on this server.

If it's better for Community to do what Charley wants,so be it.But firstly we should read one more excessively long post from aki himself.