Quote from: NewK on July 19, 2016, 01:28:58 am

A long ban instead of a permanent one acts as a way of regulating player behaviour just lke you said.

One year for all is too long. It's like death penalty in server. They will evade it and will be in illegal status, then they will get bans for ban evading and so on. Do you want it?
Long ban is good for only a hack's creator and for people who shared this hacks for others (ban for them should be a bit less than for a hack's creator). If people just used it without any type of sharing they should be banned as normal cheaters with shorter period. If player was just [ON] member and not used the hack he should be not banned at all. I hope the collective punishment will stay in middle ages. It's my option about that. 

I agree with this but I don't think there's any real suitable punishment that will truly teach a lesson. If I were in their shoes, 1 year ban is as vito said a death penalty, in my eyes 1 year vs permanent makes no difference, I might as well got the permanent. I'd find every way under the sun to ban evade throughout that time if VCMP matters to me that much. I'd make my hacks behind closed doors and watch my distribution to players instead of publicly distribute them in the clan like a free for all. In the end we wasted our time stressing over these hackers as no lesson was taught and no morality was instilled in their heads.

Stormeus made mention of extraordinary situations require extraordinary actions to be implemented. This is true but I'm not in agreement with where the energy is, you've explained it well to me before but I personally think that rather than worry about what ban these people should get, your extraordinary action should be on implementing in VCMP's code ways to completely block these hacks from running and let's make it stable. If it so happens that 1/2 of VCMP players can't connect when you're done, don't look at it as something to roll back, look at it as there's more hackers in VCMP than we know. As long as people with clean copies of GTA VC can connect, then you have done your work well. That's the only place a lesson in hacks will be taught. Permabans, 1 year bans, all a that shit is just gonna bring retaliation in my eyes

2016 - the year of surprises I tell ya. Glad to see you around again man

Friday
Bad Boys
Rush Hour
Shrek 2
Baby Boy

pretty much any proper comedy/action comedy out there though as long as the producers don't think that some whacky gay kissing shit is funny

FIRE BUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reason: Heh, from I've made a topic like this you know it's a special kind of inactive  . Well I got a new summer job at a warehouse. Pretty taxing on the body but I like it because it's helping a bodybuilding goal I wanted to start this summer. I live pretty far from the warehouse however so going to and from work requires me to sleep as I get home and wake at like 4 am to arrive early so throughout the weekdays, there's no hope of seeing me anywhere. I'll be around on the weekends though, mostly Saturdays if I'm not going out and maybe some Sundays

Date from: already started from Monday, June 13

Date until: July 15

Quote from: Luckshya on May 08, 2016, 03:34:22 am

Quote from: stormeus on May 07, 2016, 06:21:42 pm

What makes you think you're ready to apply after your last application?
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=6830.msg76563#msg76563

I tried my best to hang out with allmost all the active VUs, I worked on my anger, i was short-tempered as pointed out by Shawn. I talk to everyone in a kind and friendly way, even if someone talks to me in a rude way. Worked on my fighting skills with TzUnam and others. After giving up stress on all the above things for a month, i applied here again and will continue applying here till i get accepted. 

When that happened?

I can attest to that, he's been putting out effort alright and I commend him that it wasn't in annoying ways (for me at least), so I vote trainee

I have no probs with him, trainee

Ulrich I should've been the one to bring you back years ago. I even forgot why you left but welcome back mate