Vice Underdogs
Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Denied Applications => Topic started by: kyber7 on November 23, 2011, 10:02:48 pm
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Which game are you applying for, VC:MP, SA:MP, LU or all?: VC-MP
Nick: LaS3r
Previous Nicks: desfire97
Timezone/Country: Bulgaria
Age: 14
Do you speak English? Yes
Time you have played vcmp/samp: 2 years
Previous clans: Hmm.... UR - closed, 7W - closed
Do you use mIRC: Yes
Why you want to join VU: Well, I think last time I have lost my spot in VU unfairly. I'm applying again because I want to come back where I was. I still haven't prove anything since last time (because of the short period of time I was in).
Favourite weapon: Stubby, Ingram, Laser Sniper, M60
Which VUs do you know: Almost everyone.
Would you be interested in competing in clan wars?: Yes
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I guess Yes.. with hope that you won't be a disgrace to VU again. Good Luck buddy :thumbsup:
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I SAID YES
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You know my vote already.
Nope.
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Bah, the posts got deleted because of a forum host transfer.
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As I said in the deleted application, Trainee
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The fact that he should have never been kicked because of something he didn't really do, makes me think that he should get his VU_T tag back.
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Sorry, No.
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Erm,I would have voted trainee but i have my doubts,my vote is a no until i get out of the same.
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What is the point of saying "This is you last chance" to someone who has screwed everything up twice, but when he crawls for a third chance, you carelessly say "Trainee :)" ? Just doesn't make much sense.
Sadly the posts disappeared, so I'm not sure who read them/who didn't, but my position about Las3r has always been clear- We do not need a problem maker. You say he's changed? I've seen enough to say he is still one of the most annoying players in vc:mp. Intelligence? Never noticed it.
I'm still wondering why is he even still in vc:mp, not even talking about why on Earth should he be in VU.
As I said in my posts before: Let's not step on the same rake again.
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still his last kick was unfair but what he did before wasnt good either im neutral for now
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Sorry, No.
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I am voting no. Good luck.
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Deleted my post.
Voting no, well i know that was not good, but i'm going with the members.
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I have no idea where to go with this since I'm barely acquainted with LaS3r. Staying neutral for now.
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what the sense give you a chance when we all know that you will fuck it up?
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what the sense give you a chance when we all know that you will fuck it up?
We also gave a chance to Meta, but he sure as hell didn't fuck up.
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what the sense give you a chance when we all know that you will fuck it up?
We also gave a chance to Meta, but he sure as hell didn't fuck up.
Meta wasn't kicked out of the clan two times.
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Not yet, I don't think you have grown up, because smart people wouldn't say that sentence: "Such newbe as you shouldn't be an admin"
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because smart people wouldn't say that sentence: "Such newbe as you shouldn't be an admin"
In other words, talking / wondering off about an admins level (demotion and such)
Would have expected better from you, LaS3r.
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I don't do this so often until these days but SO he has changed right?
[14:19] <&jizzBotz> [16] LaS3r: Kevin, umad bro?
[14:19] <&jizzBotz> [16] LaS3r: eaither learn how to fight or get demoted to lvl 0
[14:20] <&jizzBotz> [16] LaS3r: and I'm gonna report you
Then, [14:20] <&jizzBotz> * Admin Prontera kicked:[ LaS3r ] Reason:[ Hi, please don't threaten admins that they will be demoted thanks ]
EAITHER!
Are you thinking or really sure that you want to insult your clan's name, with these kind of people? I can't take decisions here or either vote, I don't do it in any case, but just as an advice, do you think he deserves the chance of represent this respected clan after such kind of melodramatic acts? in my own opinion I don't think so.
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Oh c'mon now, some of you ULK guys are abusing. Admit it! Everytime I play in XE some of you just find a false-stupid reason to kick me or get me banned. Btw, why didn't you post everything that happend, Kevin? (Clicky (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=4825.0))
Like last time when I asked Tical if modding was allowed, and he just banned me like that (Clicky2 (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=4527.0)).
Oh and a few months ago when I had armour in XE (Clicky3 (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=3269.msg27893#msg27893))... Well isn't it a bit obvious that someone actually gave armour to me? I mean, the same time that happend, there was an admin in there with rcon access, the one who took pictures of me, the one who reported me.... and all this time I tryed to join VU..
Act professional with the staff? Nig please...
Now, please leave my app before you harm your reputation even futher.
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Act professional with the staff? Nig please...
Now, please leave my app before you harm your reputation even futher.
Well, no from me.
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Act professional with the staff? Nig please...
Now, please leave my app before you harm your reputation even futher.
:(
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See what I'm talking about? Zero intelligence, stupid as fuck.
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Dudes, I really believe this clan can change everyone's personality, and help them mature up. This is worth for Las3r too, and I'd really like to see how he would do if we gave him another chance. Everyone deserves a chance, no matter how rude and impolite they are, because chances change people for the better.
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Everyone deserves a chance
He had a chance, and got kicked for a valid reason. He got another chance, got kicked for an invalid reason, but still showed disgusting attitude. We try giving him another chance, and he rages in his app.
Three strikes, you're out.
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Oh c'mon now, some of you ULK guys are abusing. Admit it! Everytime I play in XE some of you just find a false-stupid reason to kick me or get me banned. Btw, why didn't you post everything that happend, Kevin? (Clicky (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=4825.0))
Like last time when I asked Tical if modding was allowed, and he just banned me like that (Clicky2 (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=4527.0)).
Oh and a few months ago when I had armour in XE (Clicky3 (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=3269.msg27893#msg27893))... Well isn't it a bit obvious that someone actually gave armour to me? I mean, the same time that happend, there was an admin in there with rcon access, the one who took pictures of me, the one who reported me.... and all this time I tryed to join VU..
Act professional with the staff? Nig please...
Now, please leave my app before you harm your reputation even futher.
I'm only here to defend myself because this is heavy slander and defamation of character.
I never gave you armor, we already tried to discuss it with you a few times but all you did was say umadbro and ignore us when we were trying to get to the bottom of it and see if it might have been the armor bug or some kind of unbeknownst glitch. Also the report video itself was created and filmed by outlawz on his own behalf.
Let's be completely honest here. Me being a server manager, and you being heavily disliked amongst the ENTIRE xe staff. I don't need to falsify cheats to ban you, I could ban you with no reason at all if I so desired and there would really be barely anything of a quarrel. We could permanently ban you if we wanted to. That was not my motive, or else you would have been banned a long time before your little armor debacle. Now swallow that little fact before you continue your pointless accusations.
This application is none of my business or concern because whenever i try to help other clans it ends in me being persecuted and accused of foul play.
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Oh c'mon now, some of you ULK guys are abusing. Admit it! Everytime I play in XE some of you just find a false-stupid reason to kick me or get me banned. Btw, why didn't you post everything that happend, Kevin? (Clicky (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=4825.0))
Like last time when I asked Tical if modding was allowed, and he just banned me like that (Clicky2 (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=4527.0)).
Oh and a few months ago when I had armour in XE (Clicky3 (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=3269.msg27893#msg27893))... Well isn't it a bit obvious that someone actually gave armour to me? I mean, the same time that happend, there was an admin in there with rcon access, the one who took pictures of me, the one who reported me.... and all this time I tryed to join VU..
Act professional with the staff? Nig please...
Now, please leave my app before you harm your reputation even futher.
I'm only here to defend myself because this is heavy slander and defamation of character.
I never gave you armor, we already tried to discuss it with you a few times but all you did was say umadbro and ignore us when we were trying to get to the bottom of it and see if it might have been the armor bug or some kind of unbeknownst glitch. Also the report video itself was created and filmed by outlawz on his own behalf.
Let's be completely honest here. Me being a server manager, and you being heavily disliked amongst the ENTIRE xe staff. I don't need to falsify cheats to ban you, I could ban you with no reason at all if I so desired and there would really be barely anything of a quarrel. We could permanently ban you if we wanted to. That was not my motive, or else you would have been banned a long time before your little armor debacle. Now swallow that little fact before you continue your pointless accusations.
This application is none of my business or concern because whenever i try to help other clans it ends in me being persecuted and accused of foul play.
Ban me plz ;]
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Sorry Ferrari, i am going to have to disagree with you because if you are that sure about people whoever joines us will change then why shouldn't we accept everybody who applies? Don't you think it would be unfairness towards other players too? In addition, many players application were denied because there was no hope for them and LaS3r is a different case he always messes up with us and almost nobody likes him because of his disgusting attitude or whatever he does. If we were to give him another chance after that i think it will be insult to the name of VU like Kevin mentioned.
I am also changing my vote to "NO" after reading all other posts about him, i think i made a mistake acknowledging LaS3r earlier, and i also think now there is no hope left for LaS3r since he has always destroyed our faith for him to change. If we give another chance it will be like giving him another chance to fuck it up.
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Sorry Ferrari, i am going to have to disagree with you because if you are that sure about people whoever joines us will change then why shouldn't we accept everybody who applies? Don't you think it would be unfairness towards other players too? In addition, many players application were denied because there was no hope for them and LaS3r is a different case he always messes up with us and almost nobody likes him because of his disgusting attitude or whatever he does. If we were to give him another chance after that i think it will be insult to the name of VU like Kevin mentioned.
I am also changing my vote to "NO" after reading all other posts about him, i think i made a mistake acknowledging LaS3r earlier, and i also think now there is no hope left for LaS3r since he has always destroyed our faith for him to change. If we give another chance it will be like giving him another chance to fuck it up.
Half of the guys that apply don't know english, and the other half lies about living in california...
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Sorry Ferrari, i am going to have to disagree with you because if you are that sure about people whoever joines us will change then why shouldn't we accept everybody who applies? Don't you think it would be unfairness towards other players too? In addition, many players application were denied because there was no hope for them and LaS3r is a different case he always messes up with us and almost nobody likes him because of his disgusting attitude or whatever he does. If we were to give him another chance after that i think it will be insult to the name of VU like Kevin mentioned.
I am also changing my vote to "NO" after reading all other posts about him, i think i made a mistake acknowledging LaS3r earlier, and i also think now there is no hope left for LaS3r since he has always destroyed our faith for him to change. If we give another chance it will be like giving him another chance to fuck it up.
Half of the guys that apply don't know english, and the other half lies about living in california...
Ok, that's enough. You really need to look back at his history & the moral of the community with desfire/LaS3r. I know you may think LaS3r can change, but there's too many bad knots from desfire just being a ''clean, liked player.''
Act professional with the staff? Nig please...
Now, please leave my app before you harm your reputation even futher.
From what I know, VU is a respectable clan, if someone cannot respect the staff, then I don't think he's cut out for it. This sentence pretty much just summed it up.
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Maaan.. Fuck this punk ass, pussy ass, faggot ass, gay ass drama! I'm tired of this bullshit. It happens EVERY time we discuss Las3r.
I like Las3r and stuff, but this time I'm stayin' neutral till shit gets straightened the fuck up.
FUCK THE SYSTEM!
>.<
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Uhh, sorry for my last nerd-rage. I got a bit mad because of the shit that happens in XE.
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Dudes, I really believe this clan can change everyone's personality, and help them mature up. This is worth for Las3r too, and I'd really like to see how he would do if we gave him another chance. Everyone deserves a chance, no matter how rude and impolite they are, because chances change people for the better.
OH GOD FERRARI!
When someone posts application he don't need to be rude when someone says the right thing, if someone want to defend himself he can say it in a nice way, not like Nigga please, seriously....
LaS3r watch your mouth before we shut it.
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My Vote is Trainee, but if we all cannot get along then i suggest not accepting him.
I strongly vote for Trainee
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My Vote is Trainee, but if we all cannot get along then i suggest not accepting him.
I strongly vote for Trainee
Kinda what I think. I keep my vote, trainee, but if this stuff leads to arguments, he shouldn't be accepted.
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Alright,now i had got all ma doubts out,and now laser,i am voting full member / rookie.
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changing my vote from trainee to rookie too. (no jk)
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I'll vote for rookie.
Good luck.. ;)
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I will be neutral .. I really don't know too much him, and also his old story in VU
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I'm sick of flaming Las3r since it's all a pure coefficient of rage. I used to be enemies with Metalord before too and we've gotten to being friends back again so why not try it here too?
In my honest opinion you'd fit well into VU if you could change the way you react to people among other things. (I can't since I'm a hopeless case already :))
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Trainee.
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I'm sick of flaming Las3r since it's all a pure coefficient of rage. I used to be enemies with Metalord before too and we've gotten to being friends back again so why not try it here too?
In my honest opinion you'd fit well into VU if you could change the way you react to people among other things. (I can't since I'm a hopeless case already :))
Any suggestions of what should I change exacly?
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I'm sick of flaming Las3r since it's all a pure coefficient of rage. I used to be enemies with Metalord before too and we've gotten to being friends back again so why not try it here too?
In my honest opinion you'd fit well into VU if you could change the way you react to people among other things. (I can't since I'm a hopeless case already :))
Any suggestions of what should I change exacly?
Your attitude.
Need to learn to control your temper, dont rage very often.
Thats for now ;D lol
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I'm sick of flaming Las3r since it's all a pure coefficient of rage. I used to be enemies with Metalord before too and we've gotten to being friends back again so why not try it here too?
In my honest opinion you'd fit well into VU if you could change the way you react to people among other things. (I can't since I'm a hopeless case already :))
Any suggestions of what should I change exacly?
The only thing that needs change imo is that you don't get involved into spit fights when someone accuses you of something. There is a peaceful way to argue, which doesn't involve flaming, and allows you to express your opinion and defend yourself.
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Well I see things are starting to change. Well I can't vote, but all I can say is best of luck into getting in, LaS3r.
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Still remain at my vote which got deleted ::)
T-r-a-i-n-e-e :thumbsup:
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Any suggestions of what should I change exacly?
you can start with the signature :D
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Any suggestions of what should I change exacly?
Start accepting the fact that the world does not revolve around you.
You should think from other person's point of view too before presenting yours.
Try to put yourself as a person in your surroundings, then make your decisions.
That might help you with attitude problems :)
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Any suggestions of what should I change exacly?
One in particular that comes to mind is:
Learn to accept your mistakes, its not that big of a deal to admit that you did something wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, kiddo ;)
I'm glad to see that everything is going well for you. LaS3r.
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Anyone else got anything to say?
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We already said what we had to say :)
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I'd be happy if he got another chance :)
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as a non-member, an outside point of view is I'm seeing a big positive change in him. his attitude ingame, on some forums etc... if it matters if not whatever
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Haven't really seen him interact much with other players, and was pretty quiet when fighting in XE.
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adding a final vote Trainee
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Trainee
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I only believe in second chances. That's all I have to say.
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I only believe in second chances. That's all I have to say.
this can easily have various meanings imo
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Well
I only believe in second chances. That's all I have to say.
He had 2 chances :)
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WellI only believe in second chances. That's all I have to say.
He had 2 chances :)
More then 2 :P
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nop, he had only two chances and this might be the third, but the fact he should have never been kicked on his second stay in VU ( he deserved it on the first) clearly makes this his REAL second chance and as we only believe in second chances.. here's the thing ;D
in case somebody forgot it my vote remains as rookie
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nop, he had only two chances and this might be the third, but the fact he should have never been kicked on his second stay in VU ( he deserved it on the first) clearly makes this his REAL second chance and as we only believe in second chances.. here's the thing ;D
in case somebody forgot it my vote remains as rookie
An my name is Jesus
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Oh, we are voting again?
No, never, not in a hundred years.
Why people dislike DZ? Cause they accept tards like Koray and PIIPEE who represent themselves as 'good' as they can. Las3r is in the same category, so why dig our own grave??
The ones who haven't been annoyed by him yet- sorry, but there is just no way I will compromise with this.
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Why people dislike DZ?
Why do you talk about us?Also everyone is not hating DZ.Just your replies makes sense on VU members and some tard guy like you.
Why anyone dislike VU?Because you accepted the biggset lagger and 'jaja' spammer Metalord.You guess everyone likes VU?Poor you...
Anyways dont talk about us in application boards,you tard.
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See what I mean? :D
No, Koray, I mentioned a perfect example of how easily can few members stain clan's reputation.
And ironically, I indeed couldn't have figured a better description for you than the "lagging jaja spammer" you gave. Keep up the good work, Koray! :thumbsup:
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Koray you will never learn the lesson, you making of your self a joke, why these noob comments, these comments will make you noob around VCMP community, i don't mean to say that you're a noob i'm just explaining what these comments will do to people attitudes.
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Veteran, you aren't "a flower to be smelled" too.
what these comments will do to people attitudes.
You should come sometimes ingame when me and Veteran are both in a server to see his "attitudes"
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koray is mad besides from gay ( koray gay, gay koray )lol it even ryhmes
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Veteran, you aren't "a flower to be smelled" too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRZ5c6I-vo
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some tard guy like you.
Atleast this "tard" can speak decent english, not like your pro engrish. Also, this "tard" made alot more for a clan than you could ever do.
Why anyone dislike VU?Because you accepted the biggset lagger and 'jaja' spammer Metalord.You guess everyone likes VU?Poor you...
Ohohoh, you consider Metalord the "biggset (new word I guess?)" lagger and "jaja" spammer? Well look at yourselves, buy a mirror maybe, and you'll see who's the "biggset" one.
About everyone hating VU, well to be honest I don't give a fuck. We DID ALOT MORE than any other clans did (I am not beeing cocky here, I am just saying facts.). Maybe they are just jealous? If they are, well that's a good thing.
Now shut up, and get the fuck out of our forums.
About LaS3r, No. Sorry but I don't really believe in 12039293472394875394875 chances.
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An my name is Jesus
Hai Jesus, nice to meet u ;D
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Would've rated Knuci's post with a thumbs up.
But trust me pal, they ain't worth the time you spend cooking that post up, just take it with humor. :thumbsup:
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Here's the way I see it.
Las3r joined VC:MP and acted like a dick. He got kicked from VU and as a result was ridiculed by the whole community on a daily basis. Some may say this was fair, some would say it was childish. Either way, that's what happened. Afterwards, he spent a lot of time building up rapport with the community (VU's in particular), trying to mend old wounds. He went from being a completely hated douchebag to being accepted back into the clan (albeit on loose strings).
He then got caught in XE with armour, which I'm now 90% sure he didn't give himself. People turned on him again, going back to how they were before and completely negating all the efforts that he had put in previously. This made him mad and he sought retribution; he started acting like a dick again, flaming everyone, trying to piss people off etc. etc.
Laser acting like a dick towards staff members in XE (and a few other members of the community) is a retaliation to them acting like a dick to him. They feel that he initiated it, which in their eyes justifies their acting like a dick to him. He believes that they unfairly wronged him, that they shouldn't have reacted to him being a dick in the first place and that they are now unfairly holding a grudge. His view is that they conspired against him in the whole armour episode and so he feels victimised, leading to him becoming defensive. What has occurred is a total break down in respect between the two parties.
If we were to truly wipe the slate clean, Laser forgiving everyone else for their shenanigans and everyone else forgiving Laser for his, then I feel we would have no problem in moving forward in a productive way. However, this is not practical as humans often struggle to look at things objectively and can't help but hold judgements from the past against things/people in the present.
So this puts us in a certain dilemma. The challenge I am having is judging the extent to which Laser wants to change, or fit in, and (of equal importance) how far the community is willing to let him change, or fit in.
I think I'd like to give Laser a chance as I feel guilty for the last chance he was given was stolen from him and I do think he's an intelligent guy. That doesn't mean I think he's flawless; indeed I certainly think at the moment he's too arrogant and reacts somewhat immaturely when challenged. However I think these traits are portrayed in an extended defensive nature. He has pride and therefore doesn't want to be made a fool of by others. This self-regard is commendable to an extent, but only if balanced by an appropriate measure of humility - something that I'm yet to see.
The other aspect undeniably worth considering is the effect his application would have on the clan, should it be accepted. Regardless of whether I think it's the right thing to do, if others don't then it could split us in certain ways; something that I want to avoid. This goes back to what I was saying about the problem of judging how far the community is willing to let him change/fit in. I am really stuck on this one, hence why it's taken me so long to reply. I need to think a bit more about it and I'd like to invite anyone who has anything to say about what I've mentioned above to comment.
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Well, soldiers sometimes get stripped from their rank, but once the court marshall's find out he's innocent, he gets reinstated back to his old rank. If the army can do it, so can we.
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No, I'm not talking about the "armour thing", honestly I don't care about it. I'm talking about his personality I dislike. I see him as an annoying, cheap, and stupidly childish player that will most likely cause problems.
We just kicked out ShakeJunt for leaking posts from the Trainee/Rookie board. So would I trust Las3r and freely express my thoughts there? Definitely not. And that's just one of the things that would happen if Las3r gets accepted.
I agree with Charley, that people would move forward more productively if they closed their eyes for past, but like I said, I'm talking about the way I see him now.
Just reminding that I never thought it was a good idea to even give him that second chance. (So I don't feel like owing him anything.)
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Here's the way I see it.
Las3r joined VC:MP and acted like a dick. He got kicked from VU and as a result was ridiculed by the whole community on a daily basis. Some may say this was fair, some would say it was childish. Either way, that's what happened. Afterwards, he spent a lot of time building up rapport with the community (VU's in particular), trying to mend old wounds. He went from being a completely hated douchebag to being accepted back into the clan (albeit on loose strings).
He then got caught in XE with armour, which I'm now 90% sure he didn't give himself. People turned on him again, going back to how they were before and completely negating all the efforts that he had put in previously. This made him mad and he sought retribution; he started acting like a dick again, flaming everyone, trying to piss people off etc. etc.
Laser acting like a dick towards staff members in XE (and a few other members of the community) is a retaliation to them acting like a dick to him. They feel that he initiated it, which in their eyes justifies their acting like a dick to him. He believes that they unfairly wronged him, that they shouldn't have reacted to him being a dick in the first place and that they are now unfairly holding a grudge. His view is that they conspired against him in the whole armour episode and so he feels victimised, leading to him becoming defensive. What has occurred is a total break down in respect between the two parties.
If we were to truly wipe the slate clean, Laser forgiving everyone else for their shenanigans and everyone else forgiving Laser for his, then I feel we would have no problem in moving forward in a productive way. However, this is not practical as humans often struggle to look at things objectively and can't help but hold judgements from the past against things/people in the present.
So this puts us in a certain dilemma. The challenge I am having is judging the extent to which Laser wants to change, or fit in, and (of equal importance) how far the community is willing to let him change, or fit in.
I think I'd like to give Laser a chance as I feel guilty for the last chance he was given was stolen from him and I do think he's an intelligent guy. That doesn't mean I think he's flawless; indeed I certainly think at the moment he's too arrogant and reacts somewhat immaturely when challenged. However I think these traits are portrayed in an extended defensive nature. He has pride and therefore doesn't want to be made a fool of by others. This self-regard is commendable to an extent, but only if balanced by an appropriate measure of humility - something that I'm yet to see.
The other aspect undeniably worth considering is the effect his application would have on the clan, should it be accepted. Regardless of whether I think it's the right thing to do, if others don't then it could split us in certain ways; something that I want to avoid. This goes back to what I was saying about the problem of judging how far the community is willing to let him change/fit in. I am really stuck on this one, hence why it's taken me so long to reply. I need to think a bit more about it and I'd like to invite anyone who has anything to say about what I've mentioned above to comment.
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The way I see it, its like a battlefield b/w two sides of VU on their acceptance / denial of their opinions on LaS3r.
In my opinion , the more this thread is left open to discuss, the more difficult it becomes to even decide anymore, because from both ways, whether he gets accepted or not, the effect will change.
I will admit and from what I've seen, LaS3r has changed positively throughout the last month or four weeks and has been on his best behavior not to jibe minds in different directions.
As of right now as this remains at stand-by, I would probably conclude a
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The way I see it, its like a battlefield b/w two sides of VU on their acceptance / denial of their opinions on LaS3r.
Its not a battlefield...
Few questions for Las3r...
Why do you want to join VU, you sure this is the right clan for you?
As you clearly know that you are not appreciated here at all. Even if you proves yourself good enough for the clan and get accepted, how do you plan to make up with the differences you have with the members?
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Why do you want to join VU, you sure this is the right clan for you?
I want to join VU because this is where my VC-MP life has started. Even if I was a douche, this clan changed the experience I had before. I want to be in VU because some of the old members here were my closest friends back in the old days. If it wasn't for VU I wouldn't be in VC-MP playing or posting in here or in other forums.
The other thing is that this clan attracks me most. Idk why, it just attracks me. I don't have this feeling againts other, more popular clans like ULK (no offends ULK dudes, lol).
Another thing is that the ppl in VU taught me a lot of things. For example - a lot of you taught me how to fight. Because of you ppl, now I'm one of the most skilled players around VC-MP. The other, very important thing that didn't just affected my VC-MP life, it affected my real life too, is that a member of your clan (Knucis) taught me how to speak English propertly. I'm not saying I'm 100% good at English, but I'm pretty good at it thanks to him. Thanks to him I have good marks in my highschool too.
As you clearly know that you are not appreciated here at all. Even if you proves yourself good enough for the clan and get accepted, how do you plan to make up with the differences you have with the members?
Well, to be honest, once I get accepted (I'm not begging to) into the clan, some of the members that hate me most actually become friendlly at me. The other thing is that since my first kick from VU, the time that has passed by, I learnt my lesson. The time I wasn't in VU after my first kick, a lot of changing had begin. For example - after I met Amenine, we planned on forming a new clan. After we created 7W, that event forced me to change possitivelly. After my second (unfair) kick, the time when I wasn't in XE (because of the unfair ban) I changed even more.
This explains how I'll behave in the future too. I will do my best in VU, climbing the ladder till I reach the full VU rank, which will be a great achievement for a guy who used to be an asshole in the past (me).
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attracks
lol attracts* :D
Good story though LaS3r.
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now I'm one of the most skilled players around VC-MP
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now I'm one of the most skilled players around VC-MP
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now I'm one of the most skilled players around VC-MP
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now I'm one of the most skilled players around VC-MP
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LOL Garry's Mod is the funniest game ever.
LaS3r, you probably won't be considered as ''the most skilled'' player playing VC:MP, but your skill and technique has improved enormously since the past months. :)
But that's probably not that important in this case.
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Just remember to accept a mistake in something you've done once in a while. That's quite crucial; I've personally learnt my lesson.
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I said ONE of the most skilled player, not the best. But lol at you ppl's pics ;D
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(Knucis) taught me how to speak English propertly.
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could be a simple typo, T is with R in keyboards, no big deal
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I'm sorry to have left this open for so long.
I'd like to accept you into the clan Las3r, but I can't. It would cause too much animosity between members. You can see here there is a clear divide between members and that won't do.
You'll have to win over the hearts and minds of people like Veteran and Knucis before you can be accepted here,
Good luck with whatever path you choose to follow now.
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I hoped to get smth like a christmass present, but nvm...
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I hoped to get smth like a christmass present, but nvm...
That's sad :(
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to be honest i still think an opportunity wouldnt have been so bad at all, and not seeing it happening is kinda disappointing at least for me but whatever we gotta respect that decission and i all got to say after this, is to wish you good luck,keep working, improving and one day you will get what should have never been stolen from you.
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I hoped to get smth like a christmass present, but nvm...
You probably will, but not this, sorry.
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good luck next time
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good luck next time
>implying there's going to be a next time.
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Block this please.