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SA-MP does not have more players than VC-MP because it turns a Spitfire's permanent bans into temporary 6 month bans.

It has more players because GTA:SA was the most popular GTA before GTA 5. It has more players because it's easier. You shoot someone in SA-MP or MTA, he shoots you back - it all works. In VC-MP, you can die in less than a second because of someone's laser aim with M4. In VC-MP, once you get shot with a shotgun you are going to die. All of us here might like that, but the truth is SA-MP is easier, more well-known and more accessible for the average player. Not to mention that it is more refined than VC-MP

SAMP is not famous, it gained fame.

VCMP went in a downhill the moment some admins started being narcissistic, and the servers got boring, and no major gamemode other than A/D style or DM ever existed.

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It has more players because it's easier. You shoot someone in SA-MP or MTA, he shoots you back - it all works. In VC-MP, you can die in less than a second because of someone's laser aim with M4. In VC-MP, once you get shot with a shotgun you are going to die.

it is not about being easy or not, it is about being competitive, and VCMP is in fact more competitive than SAMP.

CSGO is not easy, it's hard. Call of duty is way harder, with DM fuckfests and you get shot every second.

they're both successful, while VCMP is not, compared to SAMP. we agree that gta sa is better and more famous, and definitely SAMP's going to have more players, but VCMP can have its playercount larger than it is today.

there is a clear lack of imagination, with every mass tdm server feeling the same, playing the same, as you run like a beheaded chicken in a narrow place trying to gun down whoever is in front of you.

no racing servers, no battleroyale servers ( doable ), not many unique and fun RPG servers, and actually no freeroam servers.

" bUt HeY idIoT, wE hAvE fReErOaM sErvErs, GTFO "

if you call something as lazy and shitty as LWs a freeroam server, or the other few servers, then you've never played actual freeroam.

the closest thing to freeroam is VKs, but even that, it is far away from being freeroam. you spawn directly into the main world where combat takes place and soulless admins grief noobs for sprees.

if you ask me, why freeroam is very important, it is because the one that has the most playercount in SAMP. ( UIF server )

Freeroam is an open world that implicates different types of game modes, aside from freeroam itself.

you should receive a menu upon joining server to get into any of these gamemodes

including:

1-Freeroam: a free open world where you spawn in a heavily modified map with ramps and big structures, you can do whatever you want, you can go on godmode and fly everywhere, get in a fancy vehicles and drift, or you can have a fight with a bunch of friends and strangers.

2- Demolition derby: self explanatory

3- Racing: different tracks in custom and main map, where you can race with other people in the same gamemode

4-Deathmatch: in certain arenas ( check uif gameplay videos to see how unique their maps are )


freeroam server can have other gamemodes, like:

-Fallout ( dw not a post apocalyptic nuclear roleplaying game ) : you stand with bunch of dudes in a platform and try not to fall as parts of that platform is falling out.

- protect the president: TDM match where robbers have to assasinate the president and cops have to protect him.

- Cops V Robbers: Self explanatory, not like that fucked up unbalanced mixture of everything that turns you into a grinding machine that we have today. as if Just Cause, Gta and Pewdiepie had a baby whose name is VccNr.


Conclusion: it really saddens me how VCMP has a great advantage over SAMP and MTA, the ability to add custom stuff without replacing already existent assets, it could've been exploited in favor of attracting more people into the game. and especially useful for newcomers who look for this type of servers. psst, UGMP will have this feature 

no way people would cope with the frustrating nature of LWs where old players endlessly kill and hunt down newbies, only 0.5% decide to stay in VCMP and take it upon themselves to learn how to fight. because they were patient.

the other merely have a reason to come back, while if they joined a real freeroam server, they'd happily join again and test all the other gamemodes without having to be constantly DM'ed and abused by assholes.

well I can't believe I am writing this but I agree with you for once, only this once.  ( morphine quoting kessu )

I disagree, rules are rules, players understand that and have to comply with them, but sometimes a person gets outright banned for something minor but for a long duration. not that he's not wrong or anything but the ban time is staggering.

players get hooked to VCMP (that's a no doubt) and they want to have fun in the game, some of them tend to do something stupid ( nobody is perfect ) but they get banned for at least 3 days, that's like holding defecation for them. and they lose interest in that server as they hold a feud against that certain admin. those who are claimed by stubbornness will definitely try to ban evade...
it feels bad, even worse when the ban is due to a shitty VCMP glitch.

this is a game, and people want to have fun in the game ( or compete ). I guess 2 hours up to one day ban for light rule breaks is enough.

I wanted to allude to few reasons that made people lose interest over time, not saying if admins reaction are right or wrong.

one of which is the long ban times and strict rules, speaking of which I was refering to all servers, as all of them pretty much play the same because they often get administered by same people.

vcmp is not gta online, and so long ban times wouldn't really help, it is barely keeping up with player count and if this continues it'll just lose more players because not many join the game, and so it is important to save the community before thinking about bringing other people.

Admins, devs and moderators of all servers alike:

do you want a different outcome?

then try different solutions!!


we all want to have fun, if someone does a mistake, warn him, or ban him for short amount of time, if he does it again, ban him for a day or even a week, third time then you permanently ban him.

that's how samp is still alive, as xmair pointed out, even though SA has shitty and dirty brownish graphics and slow pace.

Eid mubarik 

there needs to be something new and catchy. a new update.

i dont know why stormeus is working on this all alone, he barely can keep up and we cant blame him,

he must recruit other developers to work on it.

one of the main causes for the playercount waning is the strict administration of VCMP.
literally gangstaras alone banned 100 players off one of the servers he administered. ( permanently )

ban times are too long, people get cocky when you get banned, and sometimes you get banned because you said something admins dont like, ( example: ferrari called kessu a "dictator" once, got permanently banned,  cheaters in ead get banned for lifetime with no chance to get unban) they lose interest.

imagine how many newbie players quit vcmp when they find they were banned for a month for something as silly as deathevading.

admins are sometimes careless, ( example: Weldone got banned for something someone else with a similar nickname did, only to be unbanned 3 months later and at admins's realisation that it was a wrongful ban )

in SAMP hackers get banned for no more than 120 minutes, and their servers filled with players up to 600 at the same time!

Windows 10 umm, like thatll work, nice reasoning.