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VC:MP General / More cheating
« on: December 23, 2016, 09:17:10 pm »
Explanation
Hello everyone, today I'd like to make something public. Something important which I think everyone should know about. It is important for people (more importantly server staff members) to know this tool exists and it's being used and distributed. I'm talking about a tool/program that some people of this community use to give them an advantage by modifying their mouse sensitivity settings. This tool is a .dll that is injected into the game and through the use of an additional .ini file, you configure your mouse's individual X and Y axis aswell as zoom sensitivity.
So why is this a big deal? For those not aware, VC:MP 0.4 used to have an option on the config file that allowed players to do this same thing. Individually adjust their mouse's X and Y axis. This allowed players to have for instance, super high sensitivity for horizontal mouse navigation, but low sensitivity vertical mouse navigation and viceversa. A long time ago, VC:MP Devs decided to remove this option and added another option that allows players to adjust their sensitivity proportionally for both the X and Y axis, instead of individually. Therefore leveling the playing field for all players. This means the players would no longer be able to adjust their mouse's X and Y axis individually.
Proof
So here's the proof. These logs were sent to me by a person I trust, they're real, I would not post them if I didn't have full confidence in this person. I am not going to identify this person, he can identify himself if he wishes to (was not santa).
If you didn't bother to read the logs above, I'll make it simple for you:
Usage of this tool : Sevrin and slow (210W)
Distribution of this tool: UJIbU4 and slow (210W)
Those are 2 banable ofenses in my book. I know for some of you this is somewhat of a grey area, but that is only the fault of servers for their inaction towards these matters. I know some servers will take no action on this due to having a biased staff team and also since the servers in this community prioritize playercount over fairness which is just sad. I'd rather my server be empty or die than conforming to a community where things like this are apparently okay.
Here's my reply to whoever will reply with the following flawed logic:
Q: "Why would adjusting X and Y axis individually ever be considered cheating?"
A: Because it was expressively removed by VC:MP devs, other players don't have access to this functionality, but the users of this tool do. If your opinion is that players should be able to edit their X and Y axis that's fine, but that's not how things are at the moment. So you should act accordingly to how things are (also known as reality) and not how you think things should be.
Conclusion (TL;DR)
So let's recap:
Discuss and shit post away.
Hello everyone, today I'd like to make something public. Something important which I think everyone should know about. It is important for people (more importantly server staff members) to know this tool exists and it's being used and distributed. I'm talking about a tool/program that some people of this community use to give them an advantage by modifying their mouse sensitivity settings. This tool is a .dll that is injected into the game and through the use of an additional .ini file, you configure your mouse's individual X and Y axis aswell as zoom sensitivity.
So why is this a big deal? For those not aware, VC:MP 0.4 used to have an option on the config file that allowed players to do this same thing. Individually adjust their mouse's X and Y axis. This allowed players to have for instance, super high sensitivity for horizontal mouse navigation, but low sensitivity vertical mouse navigation and viceversa. A long time ago, VC:MP Devs decided to remove this option and added another option that allows players to adjust their sensitivity proportionally for both the X and Y axis, instead of individually. Therefore leveling the playing field for all players. This means the players would no longer be able to adjust their mouse's X and Y axis individually.
Proof
So here's the proof. These logs were sent to me by a person I trust, they're real, I would not post them if I didn't have full confidence in this person. I am not going to identify this person, he can identify himself if he wishes to (was not santa).
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[17:55:31] <S3vrin> guide me about m4 skills
[17:55:39] <S3vrin> I still can't kill some players
[17:55:43] <S3vrin> I used to be
[17:55:50] <S3vrin> your m4 skills are damn cool
[17:56:01] <S3vrin> I'm also part of you guys(I guess)
[17:56:13] <S3vrin> so can you tell me/advice me about m4 skills?
[17:58:58] <slow> low sensitivity, low vertical sensitivity, good gaming mouse, big gaming mousepad
[17:59:12] <S3vrin> low sens = yes
[17:59:17] <S3vrin> low vertical sens?
[17:59:21] <S3vrin> goood gaming mosue=yes
[17:59:26] <S3vrin> big gaming mousepad=yes
[17:59:56] <S3vrin> [17:29:21] <S3vrin> low vertical sens? ?
[18:00:13] <slow> i mean y-sens
[18:00:21] <S3vrin> How to low it
[18:00:38] <S3vrin> y axis sens right?, I heard about it but how to low it
[18:01:58] <slow> y sxis sens right, you can to use other programs
[18:02:03] <slow> axis*
[18:03:21] <S3vrin> Tell me how to
[18:03:25] <S3vrin> low y axis sens
[18:05:54] <S3vrin> i can't find it
[18:14:53] <S3vrin> back
[18:14:58] <S3vrin> say again what you said last
[18:16:13] <slow> about program y-sens, later i can give you link
[18:16:30] <S3vrin> can you now, vw6 is near so i get used to it?
[18:17:41] <slow> don't worry about VW6 we will win :D
[18:17:55] <S3vrin> you guys didn't applied yet :(
[18:18:07] <S3vrin> I want to be in top ratios, I'm confident this time taht I won't fuck up anything
[18:18:27] <S3vrin> those VUs & other clans made enough fun of me, even it was retardness not fun. I'll show them now the ture power of a team
[18:18:31] <S3vrin> true*
[18:18:41] <S3vrin> They cheated in CTF
[18:18:54] <S3vrin> Or else, we didn't let them win more than 1 base
[18:19:05] <S3vrin> well
[18:19:06] <S3vrin> You know what
[18:19:33] <S3vrin> In beta test vw6, last sunday. I was the top killer, 100 kills, I played totally alone in server, only 1 cuban against 12-15 haitians
[18:19:43] <S3vrin> Still my ratio was 1.06(not good but enough)
[18:20:21] <S3vrin> Im a guy of reality, I believe on it & I'm always honest & speak the truth, no matter what
[18:20:42] <S3vrin> And currently my aim, is to stick with TRC & WK till I'm playing this game
[18:21:37] <S3vrin> And slow, seriously, I never saw honest, team working, most united players like you(WK) and TRC
[18:21:59] <slow> ok i understood
[18:22:03] <S3vrin> I'll soon unban kakarot from EC
[18:22:08] <slow> later i can give linke to you
[18:22:13] <S3vrin> okay cool
[18:22:19] <S3vrin> Im here, got BNC set :D
[18:39:44] <slow> [OMITED LINK]
[18:39:56] <slow> are you here
[18:41:03] <slow> fix mouse [OMITED LINK]
[18:41:37] <S3vrin> back
[18:41:38] <S3vrin> yea?
[18:41:49] <S3vrin> wait lemme wear jacket fucking cold
[18:42:07] <S3vrin> ok back
[18:42:33] <slow> <slow> fix mouse [OMITED LINK]
[18:42:33] <slow> <S3vrin> back
[18:42:34] <S3vrin> which link is mouse fix
[18:42:39] <slow> download this
[18:42:39] <S3vrin> ok
[18:42:57] <S3vrin> downloaded
[18:43:24] <S3vrin> now?
[18:43:28] <slow> and will drop this files in game folder \data\cfg
[18:43:52] <slow> and then will join in game
[18:44:15] <S3vrin> there is data folder
[18:44:18] <S3vrin> but no cfg
[18:44:46] <slow> create
[18:45:14] <S3vrin> done
[18:45:15] <S3vrin> now?
[18:45:33] <slow> will join in game
[18:45:38] <slow> any server
[18:45:50] <slow> and live
[18:45:54] <slow> leave
[18:45:55] <S3vrin> you will come too?
[18:45:58] <S3vrin> ok
[18:45:58] <slow> :D
[18:46:09] <slow> my english is very high
[18:46:29] <S3vrin> no its fine
[18:46:38] <S3vrin> ok i joined ec & left
[18:46:42] <S3vrin> now ? xD
[18:46:42] <slow> ok
[18:47:11] <slow> MouseSet will open this fail
[18:47:14] <slow> file
[18:47:22] <slow> [vcmouse]
[18:47:22] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[18:47:22] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[18:47:22] <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[18:47:25] <slow> my settings
[18:47:30] <S3vrin> where?
[18:47:45] <S3vrin> what is [OMITED SETTING] lol
[18:47:46] <slow> \Grand Theft Auto Vice City\data\cfg
[18:48:08] <S3vrin> im in cfg
[18:48:40] <S3vrin> aight does anyone else knows about it?
[18:48:49] <S3vrin> ujibu4?
[18:49:10] <slow> this is just fix mouse sens
[18:49:30] <S3vrin> send me your file settings
[18:49:43] <S3vrin> so i dont need to do it as im too noob in these stuff
[18:50:09] <slow> afk
[18:50:15] <S3vrin> ok
[18:50:21] <S3vrin> tell me when you're back
[20:03:22] <S3vrin> free?
[20:57:18] <S3vrin> there
[20:57:21] <S3vrin> im online for you
[20:57:23] <S3vrin> :P
[20:57:36] <slow> i know
[20:57:42] <slow> i will go to gym now
[20:57:45] <slow> later man later
[20:58:23] <S3vrin> whenever you're free tomorrow?
[20:58:29] <slow> yes
[20:58:35] <S3vrin> when*
[20:58:45] <slow> idk
[20:58:47] <S3vrin> when you will be free tomorrw, tell me timings
[20:58:51] <S3vrin> hmm
[20:58:52] <S3vrin> okay
[20:59:01] <S3vrin> I'll try to be here after college
[20:59:02] <S3vrin> cya
[21:02:08] <S3vrin> there?
[21:02:20] <S3vrin> tell me what are your sensitivity settings
[21:02:26] <S3vrin> the y axis one
[21:03:12] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:30] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[21:03:30] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:30] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
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[20:59:46] <S3vrin> Hello
[20:59:46] <[TDH]Tom> 4HELLO S3vrin
[20:59:50] <[TDH]Tom> Hi
[21:00:01] <S3vrin> Do you know how to eidt y axis senstivity?
[21:00:06] <S3vrin> edit*
[21:00:10] <S3vrin> slow is busy
[21:00:10] <[TDH]Tom> Mouse drivers
[21:00:40] <S3vrin> he shared me that software, I pasted it in my gta vc folder data/cfg
[21:00:47] <S3vrin> and joined game & left
[21:00:50] <S3vrin> now what to do?
[21:00:56] <[TDH]Tom> Does it work?
[21:01:04] <S3vrin> I just pasted it
[21:01:14] <S3vrin> Now dunno if y axis sens is low or not?
[21:01:23] <S3vrin> what to do next, I want to know?
[21:01:27] <[TDH]Tom> Well, you have to check your sens then in order to make sure it works
[21:01:50] <S3vrin> ./setconfig game_senstivity 0.000175 is my real game sensitivty
[21:01:59] <S3vrin> now need to low y axis sens
[21:02:03] <S3vrin> through that asi loader
[21:02:24] <[TDH]Tom> Does it have any cfg files
[21:02:32] <S3vrin> cfg?
[21:02:52] <S3vrin> there is just scripts & a .dll file
[21:03:01] <[TDH]Tom> Then idk
[21:03:10] <S3vrin> in scripts there are different .asi files and .ini
[21:03:17] <[TDH]Tom> open ini file
[21:03:30] <[TDH]Tom> There must be a numercial values
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:17] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[21:04:05] <S3vrin> there are numerical values
[21:04:15] <[TDH]Tom> Adjust them according to your preferances
[21:05:43] <S3vrin> there's no such senstivity values
[21:06:27] <[TDH]Tom> copy past what 210W sent
[21:06:40] <S3vrin> lol hwere :(
[21:06:43] <S3vrin> where*
[21:06:43] <[TDH]Tom> 5*> Ask your questions
[21:06:51] <S3vrin> im dumb in it
[21:07:03] <[TDH]Tom> In ini
[21:07:45] <S3vrin> there are. [OMITED].ini, [OMITED].ini, and [OMITED].ini
[21:07:56] <S3vrin> do you got those .ini files
[21:08:00] <[TDH]Tom> No
[21:08:01] <S3vrin> upload them & send me link if you've
[21:08:04] <[TDH]Tom> I use mouse drivers
[21:08:13] <S3vrin> what are those
[21:11:55] <S3vrin> dunno what to do
[21:12:02] <S3vrin> I need to polish my m4 skills for vw6
[21:12:26] <S3vrin> Good thing is this time, I can play 15 hours
[21:12:34] <S3vrin> with some mins break
[21:12:37] <S3vrin> In beta
[21:12:41] <S3vrin> I was top killer ;P
[21:32:47] <S3vrin> tom
[21:32:47] <[TDH]Tom> 5*> Ask your questions
[21:33:00] <S3vrin> send me those slow's sensitivity settings
[21:33:07] <S3vrin> the logs i cant find
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:17] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[21:33:23] <S3vrin> ty
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[21:19:50] <UJIbU4> [OMITED LINK]
[21:31:31] <S3vrin> hi
[21:31:31] <UJIbU4> hi
[21:31:32] <S3vrin> thanks
[21:31:39] <S3vrin> but copy paste direct?
[21:41:04] <UJIbU4> .dll and scripts folder to gtavc.exe folder
[22:02:28] <S3vrin> ok its done
[22:02:36] <S3vrin> the senstivity on y axis
[22:02:39] <S3vrin> what it should ne
[22:02:41] <S3vrin> be*
[22:02:52] <S3vrin> good for both m4 & shotgun?
[22:19:09] <UJIbU4> I'm not using it
[22:19:25] <S3vrin> Okay
[22:19:26] <UJIbU4> try 0.1 y 1.2x
[22:19:36] <S3vrin> aight
[22:19:43] <UJIbU4> or 0.7y 1.2x
[22:19:52] <UJIbU4> or 0.07y 1.2x *
[17:11:41] <S3vrin> hi
[17:11:41] <UJIbU4> hi
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [vcmouse]
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 3,0
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 1,7
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[17:11:47] <S3vrin> these are mouse settings
[17:11:53] <S3vrin> what is [OMITED SETTING]?
[17:14:48] <S3vrin> and what values should I add
[17:14:58] <S3vrin> so shotgun & m4 both work good
[18:15:34] <UJIbU4> sight for zoom, dunno
[19:38:26] <S3vrin> ec
[19:38:31] <S3vrin> asap
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[21:56:39] <S3vrin> you know about y axis senstivity changing, right?
[21:56:42] <S3vrin> uj shared me those files
[21:56:49] <HunTinG> send me what he sent you
[21:56:54] <S3vrin> e.e
[21:56:58] <S3vrin> it'll take time
[21:56:59] <HunTinG> dont say name
[21:57:02] <S3vrin> its something mouse fix
[21:57:03] <HunTinG> just send
[21:57:06] <S3vrin> [OMITED LINK]
[21:57:19] <HunTinG> yes I know
[21:57:20] <HunTinG> SS' stuff
[21:57:33] <HunTinG> it doesn't work on 64
[21:57:36] <HunTinG> so it's useless for me
[21:57:52] <S3vrin> xD
[21:58:01] <HunTinG> I don't need to change my axis
[21:58:06] <HunTinG> they're good as it is
[21:58:52] <S3vrin> i want to
[21:58:53] <S3vrin> :P
[21:58:58] <S3vrin> for m4
[21:59:00] <HunTinG> what the fuck
[21:59:05] <HunTinG> lol
[21:59:12] <HunTinG> Well,I have a gaming mouse
[21:59:25] <HunTinG> It's pointless trying to modify it
[21:59:34] <HunTinG> and besides,who is just messing with me now?
[21:59:35] <S3vrin> ok
[21:59:38] <S3vrin> i figured it out
[21:59:42] <S3vrin> fucking very slow sens
[21:59:49] <HunTinG> lol gg
[21:59:54] <HunTinG> that may even fuck your game
[22:00:00] <HunTinG> I don't know
[22:00:07] <HunTinG> I mean crashing it while play
[22:00:13] <HunTinG> i had such trouble
[22:00:23] <S3vrin> if that happen
[22:00:34] <S3vrin> I'll simply uninstall and install again
[22:00:35] <S3vrin> :P
[22:02:19] <S3vrin> damn it too low
[22:04:43] <HunTinG> brb eat
[22:04:50] <S3vrin> aight
If you didn't bother to read the logs above, I'll make it simple for you:
Usage of this tool : Sevrin and slow (210W)
Distribution of this tool: UJIbU4 and slow (210W)
Those are 2 banable ofenses in my book. I know for some of you this is somewhat of a grey area, but that is only the fault of servers for their inaction towards these matters. I know some servers will take no action on this due to having a biased staff team and also since the servers in this community prioritize playercount over fairness which is just sad. I'd rather my server be empty or die than conforming to a community where things like this are apparently okay.
Here's my reply to whoever will reply with the following flawed logic:
Q: "Why would adjusting X and Y axis individually ever be considered cheating?"
A: Because it was expressively removed by VC:MP devs, other players don't have access to this functionality, but the users of this tool do. If your opinion is that players should be able to edit their X and Y axis that's fine, but that's not how things are at the moment. So you should act accordingly to how things are (also known as reality) and not how you think things should be.
Conclusion (TL;DR)
So let's recap:
- VC:MP Devs remove the option to adjust the mouse's X and Y axis individually
- Players find a tool to inject a .dll into their game that allows them to use the same options (and more) that the VC:MP devs expressively removed
- Users of this tool now have access to functionalities that other (clean) players don't, putting them at an advantage
Discuss and shit post away.