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Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Denied Applications => Topic started by: Vedder on March 15, 2021, 01:50:11 am

Title: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 15, 2021, 01:50:11 am
Nick: Vedder/Calhoun

Age: 18

Timezone/Country: GMT -3 / Argentina

Previous Nicks: Calhoun, biozcalhoun

Additional Comments: Hello everyone. I have been spending a considerable amount of time to think about what really VC:MP means to me, what I really want to get from this community and VU and I have reached to a conclusion: I want to join this clan.

- First of all, what has changed?

The last time when I applied, I did not elaborate too much. I did not believe that it was necessary; but I want to make it clear this time.

Right after I was banned from this forums, remaining with my ignorance and arrogance; it took no long time for life itself to show me what I was doing wrong. What I lacked.

People trusted on me - it was pretty obvious that I was not the same guy from 2013. That little kid. But 'not being the same' as before, does not automatically mean that I was a good person.

Calhoun, myself, back to those times when I was on VU; had grown up. 5 years turned out to be a good boost. But I lacked knowledge, respect for opinions of people older than me, experience - all those things which people were trying to give me and, trust me, it's not easy to look around when you are blindfolded.

Life hit me really fucking hard. As well as I lost everything on this community, "the second life of a kid", I lost many good things on real life for being like a piece of shit.

And that is my point here. I did not change for VC:MP, better said, I did not pretend to look like I changed  myself to join a VC:MP clan. That does not happen. Soon or later enough, it is evident. It was the real life, my dudes, the one that showed me that I was fucking up.

One year and a half of being away have been a very good school on my personal development. What happened to me was not my unique inflexion point, but also my natural growth. Being a 16 years old kid with no worries about anything and with revolution airs on the back, to being 18 years old and acquiring much more responsabilities have changed the balance. That is the thing here.

I have turned into a much more patient person, much more convinced of my capabilities but not letting it get into my head, I can WORK with a TEAM and that was simply IMPOSSIBLE back at that time. I can LOVE people, I can take care of my friends, I strive to be a GOOD person knowing that there's always one much, much better than me.

I used to annoy so much, to think so much, to literally make problems for everything, to tend to believe myself as superior among others, to incentivate people to vote for me, to systematically configure things in order to gain something from a situation, but today; I simply prefer to live the real life. Enjoy the real things, act with humility, and knowing that there is always something to improve in the horizon.

Why do I want to join VU, what do I want here in VC:MP this time?

The answer is very simple: VU makes me feel very happy, and so does VC:MP.

You see, it is different when you grow yourself up in a game like this being 11 years old, than if you join it when you are 20.

This game has always been an essential part of my life and I feel no embarrassment for saying it. You see, back in the secondary school (and part of my primary school too), I had no friends. Not a single one. Discovering a virtual world where I could enjoy so fucking much to kill people with my laggy ass and where I learnt English was simply glorious. I did not need any more than that. I grew up with VC:MP, this has always been like my second home, and one always tend to get back home.

So, the reason is simple: I fucking love this game. And VU is the community that makes me feel more identified with my feelings about this game. People in VU love this game more than winning, care to help and save the community more than losing an event. And I do too.

- What can I give to VU?

You will have to determinate most of that by yourselves, hehe. I do not like to speak about myself more than a general profile. I think that I am funny; for instance - and I think that I am a decent guy. I like to help people (specially newbies), and in terms of in-game competition, I'm a goofball lagger who can capture any base or flag without receiving a single shot. Think about it.

Thank you guys.

Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: DiaZ on March 15, 2021, 02:05:46 am
hi again
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 15, 2021, 02:11:15 am
hi again
whats up
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Major on March 15, 2021, 03:37:49 am
Good luck mate  :)
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Inferno69 on March 15, 2021, 04:58:40 am
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I'm a goofball lagger who can capture any base or flag without receiving a single shot. Think about it.
Voting full gl
As per my observations you seem to be a decent and calm guy. ( as i have seen you playing in EAD ).
Trainee.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: TheViper89543 on March 15, 2021, 06:53:45 am
Good luck!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Charley on March 15, 2021, 09:32:01 am
People in VU love this game more than winning, care to help and save the community more than losing an event.

lmao

What happened to the clan you started?
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: BliTz on March 15, 2021, 12:50:21 pm

People in VU love this game more than winning, care to help and save the community more than losing an event.
Yea bro...we care about everyone ...fuck events 😪😪😪
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 15, 2021, 01:39:06 pm

People in VU love this game more than winning, care to help and save the community more than losing an event.
Yea bro...we care about everyone ...fuck events 😪😪😪
I did not mean that, hahaha. Competitiveness in VU is absolute. In fact I saw it in the last EAD Champ*, and it looks like getting much, much better and stronger since that. My point is that the clan goes further than that and care about other things as well.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Roystang on March 15, 2021, 03:07:51 pm
In what clans have you been in before?
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 15, 2021, 03:15:42 pm
In what clans have you been in before?
I have been in ULK, MK, VU and OSK.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: ferrari32 on March 15, 2021, 05:04:03 pm
Voted trainee, don't spam my whatsapp thx
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 15, 2021, 05:07:41 pm
Voted trainee, don't spam my whatsapp thx
Thank you so much!!!!!!!! Never again xd
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: mairee on March 15, 2021, 06:41:35 pm
Trainee. Simply because you made an effort to reach out to me before applying. Most applicants these days don't do that. Changing my vote to no.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: PaiN. on March 15, 2021, 08:24:01 pm
Trainee , no me decepciones
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: BanJack on March 15, 2021, 09:03:45 pm
Good luck pal.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Roystang on March 16, 2021, 09:02:34 am
After all the fuck ups you did in the past, I've noticed you are a better person now. I hope you won't disappoint us again.

Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Trax on March 16, 2021, 10:05:36 am
Trainee.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 16, 2021, 11:01:29 am
Side note: If I fuck this again please take my body, cut its legs and arms, burn them, send them to morphine, destroy my computer, and bury the rest of my body so I cannot ever try to return again.

Thank you guys. I appreciate very, very much the faith that you are putting on me.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Ülker on March 16, 2021, 01:40:06 pm
Hey Calhoun, it's good to see you applying here once again. Although your previous application didn't go as well as you would've hoped, I'm glad to see that it didn't deter you from improving yourself and trying again now. I've been regularly DMing with you on EAD, MK's CTF and KotH, and from what I've seen, your skills aren't even in question. You've been good to me long before I even joined VU, which shows me that your kindness comes from a good place, and not just to appease us.

It's a strong Trainee from me. Best of luck with the rest of your votes! ^-^
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Inferno69 on March 16, 2021, 03:02:01 pm
Side note: If I fuck this again please take my body, cut its legs and arms, burn them, send them to morphine, destroy my computer, and bury the rest of my body so I cannot ever try to return again.

A small price to pay for salvation
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 16, 2021, 03:34:42 pm
Hey Calhoun, it's good to see you applying here once again. Although your previous application didn't go as well as you would've hoped, I'm glad to see that it didn't deter you from improving yourself and trying again now. I've been regularly DMing with you on EAD, MK's CTF and KotH, and from what I've seen, your skills aren't even in question. You've been good to me long before I even joined VU, which shows me that your kindness comes from a good place, and not just to appease us.

It's a strong Trainee from me. Best of luck with the rest of your votes! ^-^
Thank you very much dude! It has been nice to meet you.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: David. on March 16, 2021, 05:14:29 pm
Suerte cabron espero q entres
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Harold on March 16, 2021, 06:55:39 pm
Goodluck bro. BTW what nickname you use in CTB?
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 17, 2021, 01:41:18 am
Suerte cabron espero q entres
Te agradezco y sabes que te aprecio mucho mi amigo. Un abrazo enorme. Gracias!!!

Goodluck bro. BTW what nickname you use in CTB?
Thank you dude. Eh, I don't remember having tried that server. By 'base', I meant EAD and KoTH; but where my lag abilities are most seen is without any doubt in MK's CTF. In case I try it, you will always find me as Calhoun or biozcalhoun.

Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Charley on March 17, 2021, 02:10:59 am

What happened to the clan you started?

Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 17, 2021, 02:41:28 am

What happened to the clan you started?


Hi Charley; I misunderstood this message.

At the time I founded SL (Sherlockian Lepidopterans), I finally got what you were meaning about all the hard work that building a clan represents. My motivation was on a high level, there was a new wave of "fresh, new clans" getting started from the bottom and I went on that bandwagon.

Why did I found* (edit: I thought forge was forjar in spanish xD) it? Personally, I thought at that time that I was capable of leading a team, a group. Maybe I can. For instance, the only job where I'd find myself suitable is as professor. Where I can lead my own class; transforming others, helping others. But 'being able to lead' was not enough to make it successful.

Helping others, leading others and transforming others is what I wanted to get from SL, but my expectatives were so high. Being a leader and the carrier of a system, a complete structure that was just starting wasn't easy and I didn't have enough maturity. I carefully read your advices before finally going on in making a decision. Founding a clan was nice. Making the banner was nice. Making the rules was nice. But then simply something laked - and figured out pretty soon: I had no interest and motivation to develop such a high proyect.

The motivation behind that project remained on the pure expectative of being able to share my thoughts against sexism and other things to the rest of the people in VC:MP; but soon I realized that I was either not ready, or sincerely I did not have enough guts to do it. Enough time. Enough enery.

Soon, my fellow members started to leave, they were not happy with my activity nor the situation of the clan, my reputation was not good either. I went away no much time later and thought and I'm sure that I don't really want to be a leader in VC:MP any longer.

My interests have turned into a 180º change to having much, much fun ingame. No worries. No preocupations. Share moments with people in a place that I love. I regularly join LW and EAD and have fun with strangers, with friends, with anybody. I just have fun everyday and love that. I have met very nice guys from VU these latest times. I met some from the old times too. I want to share every damn good thing with them and with everyone else. Just that.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Charley on March 17, 2021, 07:18:37 am
Thanks for your considered response. Voting trainee.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Drakola on March 17, 2021, 02:18:56 pm
T.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: TheKing on March 17, 2021, 04:55:20 pm
I think, you deserve a shot. Trainee for sure my dude!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 17, 2021, 05:14:59 pm
I think, you deserve a shot. Trainee for sure my dude!
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f8/32/25/f832259f726a4f452338252cb84db1b9.jpg)
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Domek on March 17, 2021, 06:16:56 pm
Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: TrapHole. on March 19, 2021, 09:50:06 pm
Si me hubieran aceptado cuando tenia pc te votaba trainee jaja pero suerte man nomas no te vallas a salir si te aceptan eh  8)
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: BanJack on March 19, 2021, 10:11:16 pm
Neutral for now, comrade.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 19, 2021, 11:07:20 pm
Si me hubieran aceptado cuando tenia pc te votaba trainee jaja pero suerte man nomas no te vallas a salir si te aceptan eh  8)
Gracias pibe!!!!!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Zatch on March 20, 2021, 03:06:15 am
joder cuanto texto. ni creas que voy a leer tu biblia

Side note: If I fuck this again please take my body, cut its legs and arms, burn them, send them to morphine, destroy my computer, and bury the rest of my body so I cannot ever try to return again.
Trainee just for this ^
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 20, 2021, 03:37:19 am
joder cuanto texto. ni creas que voy a leer tu biblia

Side note: If I fuck this again please take my body, cut its legs and arms, burn them, send them to morphine, destroy my computer, and bury the rest of my body so I cannot ever try to return again.
Trainee just for this ^
Tu y tus jaladas pinche vato

Oh si soy latinoOOooO juego en brl y tengo dialecto gangter

Gracias amigo. Un beso!!!!!!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: BanJack on March 20, 2021, 03:26:29 pm
After a fruitful conversation with Calhoun, I am voting Trainee.
I took a look about what happened with him in the past, I know it is still hard for some members (especially those who had direct harm from him) to accept this situation, and they have the right not to. However, from what I've passed here, I think a chance won't harm if he assures by his actions not just words that he is worth the shot.

Trust issues are hard to be solved, yet maybe a reconciliation can work here. Take a life example, how many times have you caught a friend putting you in troubles ?, after that you reconsider forgiving and befriending him again because of what you have been through together, and of course with a will to be forgiven from his side.

For Calhoun, I recommend you start talking to those that doesn't yet feel comfortable with you because once you are accepted and still have those issues, non of the two sides will be comfortable at one home.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 20, 2021, 03:40:48 pm
After a fruitful conversation with Calhoun, I am voting Trainee.
I took a look about what happened with him in the past, I know it is still hard for some members (especially those who had direct harm from him) to accept this situation, and they have the right not to. However, from what I've passed here, I think a chance won't harm if he assures by his actions not just words that he is worth the shot.

Trust issues are hard to be solved, yet maybe a reconciliation can work here. Take a life example, how many times have you caught a friend putting you in troubles ?, after that you reconsider forgiving and befriending him again because of what you have been through together, and of course with a will to be forgiven from his side.

For Calhoun, I recommend you start talking to those that doesn't yet feel comfortable with you because once you are accepted and still have those issues, non of the two sides will be comfortable at one home.

Thank you. It was a very fruitful conversation.

I understood that my words have losed veracity, and what it really counts is my authenticity and my attitudes in-game,  out-game. But I am thankful to BanJack and other VU members who have approached to me and tried to build a bridge where talking was neccesary for both of the sides to be understood.

I have avoided directly talking because in all honesty I just prefer everyone to vote on their own visions and perceptions, be it negative or positive, but these talking spaces are very good for me to express myself better.

I am, regardless of acceptance or not, looking forward to put an eye on what you've said in your post, BanJack.

Thank you again.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Ülker on March 22, 2021, 05:47:27 am
Although I still stand behind everything that I've said, it has recently been brought to my attention that a few of my clanmates have still not forgotten what happened in the past with you leaking private VU clan information. Although some of them may have forgiven you, not all of them are ready to consider you family yet.

I always have and always will prioritize VU's constitution and ethos, and put our clan's unity before anything else, and hence I'll be changing my vote to no for now. I hope you can understand that.

I would advise you to spend some time on making amends with our members, and once their views on you have been mended, I would still love to add you to our roster one day in the future.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Dr.Shawn on March 22, 2021, 08:52:45 am
Source (https://mk.vc-mp.net/forum/approved-as-trainees/my-application-calhoun/msg35501/#msg35501)
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Regarding to what happened with VU, i will tell you the truth: I really like the people of that clan, but i left for a reason and now i face it: I don't, and i will never fit there. They are looking for people that, on my view, are "intelligent" but like "nuns", i mean, some of them are disgusted if i insult somebody in the game - thing that i do not do often, just when i am in a bad day. There was an hypocresy and something that i disliked from a guy of this clan, a very bad attitude towards me for just killing him. I have also big problems with two of their members, and i also had to apply a straight-away punishment to one of them which i'd guess that pissed him off. For all those reasons, i have decided to change my look in 180º degrees and stop looking at VU.
funny
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I was not feeling comfortable, to be honest, i was like a ghost there. The rank overcame me and I felt no matter what I could do, the importance that they were giving me was bullshit.
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More than often i used to ask VU members for help and advices, and Charley - Siezer - Ferrari32 replied me with enthusiasm, but still the ones who were against me, did not. So fuck it, if somebody doesn't want me in a place, i won't go over there. I am stopping to think on what people thinks about me, and i am focusing more in what i really want.
All you will get from me now is bullshit bro.
This two faced attitude is nice, keep it up. If you have felt this way that we did not want to help you in regards to whatever you wanted, keep this in mind: Once someone gets accepted in VU no matter the odds or strong resistance from any member, you become a part of the family and we help each other in any case.

The 180º turn that you are taking again is funny asf.
I was going to be neutral but I can't anymore.

VU is not here to correct everyone's mistakes, there are more deserving players like Major and even Viper, but you are just here to clear your name and I'm not buying it.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: CHE_JoOoOoO^ on March 22, 2021, 08:57:46 am
I go for a NO.
Trust issues and clan hopping are being dominated in most of the people who reapply.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 22, 2021, 09:03:19 am
I wrote that, yeah. I think at the moment of applying to MK, in all honesty, all I wanted to do in that application is write some bullshit to get accepted no matter what.

You see, there is a pattern on which, at the time you're talking about, I had been jumping over and over: First, applying VU giving some shit justification, after that, applying to OSK giving another shit justification, finally, applying MK with triple shit justification.

To be brutally honest, I was not comfortable in VU. But that was not because of VU, I realize that I was not ready to belong to any clan, no matter what. I was also not very comfortable in OSK. I faced problems in MK too. It was all about me.

Bullshiting was my manner of getting accepted in any place, convincing with shit. I understand that you cannot trust me any longer, but all I can do is keeping up working hard trying to demonstrate my authenticity in any action. If you don't believe me, it's fine. I just hope that you realize that I don't want to lie anymore and that I feel much more ready to be part of a family like this again and much more mature about my behavior.

I do not need a clan to clear my name, as you believe. I am here for the simple reasons that I posted on the first topic. I have no another interest on joining a VCMP clan more than that: I like VCMP. Simple.

VU will not give me something to eat, VU will not get me a job. VU will not help me end my degree. If it was one of those things, then I'd maybe care more of 'cleaning my name'. But no. The reason for joining, is stated above.

Besides, every time I join a server, many people remember me with kindness. I have lots of friends here and I don't consider that my name is 'dirty'. Almost everyone greets me, anytime. Almost everyone have a good feeling towards me (from my perception).

I don't actually think I need a clan, I just want to be part of it.

How could VU clear my name, exactly? You see, BanJack, for example. He has joined VU recently. He is now a part of VU. But I still remember his shit. Do you think that VU will help people forget his mistake? Maybe, but not in a near future. Not in a medium range future, even. It's him who has some hard work to do. Here and now, only BanJack, with clan or clanless is the one who will prove people wrong or right. That's the same case with everybody with horseshit on the back dude.

I also agree that Major and Viper might be more deserving than me.

For Ulker, it's okay man, don't worry.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Saim on March 22, 2021, 09:09:32 am
I go for a NO.
Trust issues and clan hopping are being dominated in most of the people who reapply.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Scalla on March 22, 2021, 01:39:11 pm
Hello Calhoun, good to see you applying again in the Vice Underdogs.

I've heard about what you have done in the past, from jumping from a clan into another to getting in troubles with VU and MK (I guess we don't have to talk about that deeply), you seem to be improving your attitude, but that's the only thing I've seen good in you so far, unlike the bad things, which I can say that they're a lot. Our members didn't forget about what you've done yet, many of them isn't ready to trust you, and I respect their opinion as they got their point proven.

That being said, I'm going for no.
Good luck pal  O0
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: mairee on March 22, 2021, 03:25:00 pm
I wrote that, yeah. I think at the moment of applying to MK, in all honesty, all I wanted to do in that application is write some bullshit to get accepted no matter what.

You see, there is a pattern on which, at the time you're talking about, I had been jumping over and over: First, applying VU giving some shit justification, after that, applying to OSK giving another shit justification, finally, applying MK with triple shit justification.
I have changed my vote to no. I am pretty sure the reason is obvious enough.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: auzk on March 22, 2021, 04:16:22 pm
hey there...how are you??? feels good to see you here... Voting trainee  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: KaOtiV on March 22, 2021, 04:27:28 pm
I go for a NO.
Trust issues and clan hopping are being dominated in most of the people who reapply.
I agree. I will vote No.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 22, 2021, 04:49:33 pm
I wrote that, yeah. I think at the moment of applying to MK, in all honesty, all I wanted to do in that application is write some bullshit to get accepted no matter what.

You see, there is a pattern on which, at the time you're talking about, I had been jumping over and over: First, applying VU giving some shit justification, after that, applying to OSK giving another shit justification, finally, applying MK with triple shit justification.
I have changed my vote to no. I am pretty sure the reason is obvious enough.
It's okay. But I am referring about something that passed two years ago.. I felt pretty sure it was explicitly known here.

edit: I forgot to reply Scalla. Thank you for your input and your words dude. I will keep improving, as far as I have time I will stay playing actively. You will find out that I can be loyal, friendly and mature. Thanks again!!!!!!! You're very cool and it's nice to have met you.

Thank you auzk, you have always been a good partner. Miss you in LW.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Siezer on March 22, 2021, 05:34:38 pm
I am voting trainee given that you’ve been trying to fix what you’ve done years back. I think you’ve been making a lot of effort reaching everyone of us individually and trying to apply again even though after being rejected a lot of times.

I believe you are a better person now but it will take some time for people to understand since the thing you had done in past was destructive. I believe in giving chance when someone is honest and been a much better person than before.

I hope you earn trust of VU’s if not this time, definitely next time. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 22, 2021, 05:44:20 pm
I am voting trainee given that you’ve been trying to fix what you’ve done years back. I think you’ve been making a lot of effort reaching everyone of us individually and trying to apply again even though after being rejected a lot of times.

I believe you are a better person now but it will take some time for people to understand since the thing you had done in past was destructive. I believe in giving chance when someone is honest and been a much better person than before.

I hope you earn trust of VU’s if not this time, definitely next time. Best of luck!
Siezer, you have always been there to trust and believe on me when I had nothing left here. I would go to the extent of saying that I remained here because of friends like you.

Thank you, you have also showed me that humility is the only path to achieve success. And it's so good to have your vote of confidence, no matter what. I appreciate you so much.

Don't doubt it dude, I keep positive, if not this time, maybe the next one. After all it's true that I have a lot to keep working on. A big hug for you!!!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: SMD on March 23, 2021, 07:19:38 pm
I don't trust you, Voting NO.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Sevrin on March 23, 2021, 09:11:43 pm
Good luck Calh!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: byJeanStylez on March 24, 2021, 07:33:03 am
Buena suerte puta
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: PunkNoodle on March 24, 2021, 08:14:19 am
Well in terms of application I don't see anything new being said from the previous apps, it's been like two years of you saying that you have improved. As for us, we're still the same "hypocritical nuns" of before (and probably have always been). There's also the post from Shawn which refreshed my mind, you say that you weaselled your way in MK clan through deceit and in truth there has been countless lies over the years where I don't see how I can take any word you wrote for granted; i'm not convinced at all.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 24, 2021, 04:19:44 pm
Well in terms of application I don't see anything new being said from the previous apps, it's been like two years of you saying that you have improved. As for us, we're still the same "hypocritical nuns" of before (and probably have always been). There's also the post from Shawn which refreshed my mind, you say that you weaselled your way in MK clan through deceit and in truth there has been countless lies over the years where I don't see how I can take any word you wrote for granted; i'm not convinced at all.
Hi PunkNoodle, I understand you and I think you are right. All I can do is promise that I will keep working on myself in order to prove all of you that my words aren't just words. I respect your vote and I hope I can make it positive for the next opportunity. A big hug.

And for everyone, I've been quite off these days because it was my birthday, plus I had much work xD, but I've been watching the application closely and I'm looking at all of your inputs.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Charley on March 26, 2021, 03:41:18 am
Eugh, I hate to be that guy, but... someone needs to defend Calhoun a little here.

Age
He made that post quoted by Shawn in October 2018. Two and a half years ago. Which would make him... 15 years old? And now he's 18.

I challenge any one of you to say that you never did anything when you were 15 that you then thought was dumb as fuck by the time you were 18.

Context
For context, at that time, he was bitter because he was a 15-year-old kid who wasn't being accepted in the way he wanted to be, by a group of older people he looked up to. Lacking affirmation, he lashed out, did some stupid shit, said some stupid shit, and felt the consequences - he was disgraced, banned from this forum for a year and kicked from MK. Why did he attack VU, Leder and Sawyer? Because his ego was damaged, and he was immature; simple.

Intention
I try and keep my distance, but honestly all I've seen since Calhoun got unbanned is him trying to fit in again, and trying to do it in a positive way. It might piss people off when he PMs them asking questions, it might seem cloying or needy, but it's also a sign of dedication, and perserverance. Moreover, it seems like it's coming from a good place.

It must be frustrating to be judged, at 18, by how you behaved when you were 15 or 16, and yet in this application Calhoun has kept his cool, calmly explaining how he feels, and there's little doubt in my mind that he's being honest.

So?
There are very few players left in this game with as much potential as Calhoun, and certainly even fewer with the same level of dedication.

My vote remains trainee, and if he fucks up again, then we can always give him a lifetime ban from the forum and all VU events.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 26, 2021, 04:07:22 am
Thank you Charley, there's a little more of hope in my mind after I see your reply Xd

I believe we are more judged in this game without taking account our age because everything remains written, always available to be brought up, and we don't look on the age of a guy at a first thought because it's natural and psychologically comprehensible that, if you are an adult and see kids like me through a computer, your brain will associate me as an adult. Because I am basically a forum profile, you cannot see a photo of mine to put yourself in context to how stupid this kid might look like and therefore understand why he's so idiot. Just a thought?

I am 19 now. I see in the past what I used to write in those eras and HOLY FUCK, i want to fucking cut ma eyes. But nobody judges me in real life because they understood, by sharing moments and knowing my real self, that I was simply a kid. It is not a justification, I just say what I guess is my perception.

There are some things that remain unclear till now so I guess it doesn't come bad to clarify them. Again, regardless whether you believe me or not.

At that time I was just seeking some attention and trying to be a smartass, I lacked affirmation yeah, and actually found some shitty 'rolemodels' as Charley calls them in this community and looked at them, thought they were cool so started to copy what they did, spitting shit at VU, for example.

I guess I also have to explain my side to what happened with Leder and Sugar. I will simply say that my intention was never to damage any of both, I had fucked up before and a friend of mine was going to be kicked due to that, and we cooperatively coordinated that strategy to save his ass. It only took a few minutes before I regreted because this was fucking sick, I was sorry for KingCaco being kicked but I did not want to cause that harm to Sugar after he struggled so much to get in here. Obviously I faced the consequences - it was something that got out of my hands and I did not know how to act. This was the first time that I realized that I could be a good person. Because I did something really bad and I regreted it so much.

I never accessed to VU private boards either. In fact, I had KingCaco's account not because I stole it. He gave it to me voluntarily to help him register.
But the only time I logged in with his account was after his kick, to post some threateny shit which Charley could obviously see by posts edits history xd.

I never even accessed to write his app, I helped him from outside. He posted it himself.
 
Anyways, at any rate, I appreciate so much your confidence on me Charley, and while I cannot get the same from the rest, I don't think it's actually a bad thing. I want to be in VU, I think it's a good place with good people where I can help people and self-develop a lot. But if you guys need some more time to trust me and my authenticity, I will be glad to show everybody how much I have learnt from all my experiences in this hate-love path that life puts us through.

And yeah, in case of fucky up ban my ass please

Thank you guys once again!!!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: GangstaRas on March 26, 2021, 12:50:39 pm
You know I saw the name Vedder around and didn't give it much attention to know it was you Calhoun, thought you left the community. It's good you're around.

As I left an input on BanJack's application, I feel the need to give my perspective here as well.

The story you see detailed in the application is the truth and his words are sincere. How do I know that?

December 23rd, 2019, Calhoun just randomly messaged me through VC:MP Forums. I don't remember if he was banned here or something as to why he chose there but he did and he was basically seeing me off since I retired and also explained some personal development that occurred throughout that period.

Quote
Your retirement
Sent to: GangstaRas on December 23rd, 2019, 11:57 PM
« 2 responses to this message were sent. »
Hi GangstaRas,

I am writing from my phone, so sorry if I don't find the right words. It's quite annoying, and not comfortable.

I did not want this moment to arrive, but it did. You are finally taking a rest and your input on VCMP's day by day improvement will not get updated and that is a very big lost.

I cannot get what it feels like. I have grown up in this game too, just as you since 2011, since I was a little kid. I met a lot of people here. English knowledge. Interest for 80s music which inserted me into rock and roll and guitar classes. But I never left the community, I simply wasn't able to - it's a part of my life and always will.

True to that, VCMP taught me some real life shit manners, ways-of-acting, discipline, respect, tolerance - not the way I'd have liked to, because I had to face everyone's hate to finally get it. VCMP was an example of what I shouldn't have done on my real life. Even when I did.

Going to my point, you were a very important part for my improvement and I owe you a lot, GangstaRas.

VCMP people cannot notice it. And it will never be the same, but even if you don't believe on me, good things started to happen when I hit a wall and figured out what I was failing at.

Some days ago,

[probably a lil too personal here so I redacted this portion, gist is, gave up some very toxic shit in real life, realized his mistakes, changed his approach and found new people that he cherishes]

... And the best part: Can you believe that my classmates recognized me as the best classmate? A recognizement only made for the best kind of people. And I could not avoid crying.

All of this is something I need to tell you, because your input was the first start, the kick on my ass that I needed.

I got some more things to tell, but I am so happy and full of energy, and I will be always thankful to you.

Happy retirement, Gangsta. Hope to see you around.

I replied to that message the Christmas Eve of that year and that was the last time we ever spoke since on a personal level. If he wanted to kiss ass in applying he could've done it back when that message was sent, he could've done it last year where he apparently applied in June (missed me completely, I had to search the Denied Apps to verify), and he could've done it today.

Unlike BanJack who I picked up the difference in vibe from a personal message in tandem with the time of his application, Calhoun has a standing record from that far out. We acknowledged BanJack's 180, let's acknowledge Calhoun's. I vote trainee.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 26, 2021, 03:32:39 pm
Thank you so much, Gangsta. I appreciate it so much.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: TheKing on March 29, 2021, 02:27:41 pm
On a personal note, I believe you can be a VU I also think there's lots of work to be done but looking at the things you have already accomplished, I know you have it in you to break the necessary barriers.

12 of us  stand by our vote of confidence in you and keep our trainee votes. I'm gonna be straight forward, theres 18 that still are not convinced, I know your aware of that. I'm telling you this not to discourage you but to fuel that potential that you have on turning the situation around to your favor. It probably not be now, but I know it'll come to the day that you'll reach that goal.

This doesn't mean your app is closed or denied, like I said being straight forward with you. I strongly believe that we should consider to give this app a closer look and not vote slightly. Good luck man!
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Roystang on March 29, 2021, 04:57:19 pm
You've got from almost getting app banned to now making 12 of us believe in you. You better not fuck the chance you may get or I'll give you some nice ass whooping.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Vedder on March 29, 2021, 05:39:25 pm
You've got from almost getting app banned to now making 12 of us believe in you. You better not fuck the chance you may get or I'll give you some nice ass whooping.
I will be glad then, to concede you permission of every wavy hair of my ass.

Thank you TheKing and all VU members. I appreciate yours and every member's trust and enthusiasm on me and I will do my best effort to turn it around.
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: Jack_Noodle on April 02, 2021, 08:45:29 am
Yo Calhoun Once Again VU .
Title: Re: Application - Vedder/Calhoun
Post by: mairee on April 02, 2021, 05:19:25 pm
It has been quite some time since the application was created and the poll hasn't changed from a few days as well. With that being said, I'm going to step ahead and deny this application.

Most of our members are still not ready to trust you due to your past. We usually like to give everyone a chance but your case is complicated. You need some serious effort to convince the members to change their views about you.

Poll result:
12 Positive
2 Neutral
18 Negative