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Title: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 10:28:20 am
So a couple of us noticed that Kontrium had been logging in at weird times and when we checked his IP, it didn't trace to Poland. We ran a security check and things started seeming a little weird. Thijn worked quite hard and dug very deep to find who was using his account (it was through a proxy so it wasn't easy). He did however find the result, Akiharu.

ULK.Akiharu has stolen 100s of passwords from this forum. He's been using Kontrium's account to view and share items of information from our private forum. I confronted him and this is what he had to say:

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10:42 Charleyutton hey aki
10:42 Charleyutton I have a quick question
10:51 ^akiharu hey, you have banned me from your forums
10:51 Charleyutton thijn has banned you actually
10:52 Charleyutton I don't wanna have this chat until he's around
10:52 Charleyutton but you know why
10:52 ^akiharu id like to hear why actually
10:52 Charleyutton sure, let's wait for Thijn
10:52 ^akiharu i have messaged him, and have been waiting him for the past 4 hours
10:52 ^akiharu waiting for
10:53 Charleyutton really akiharu I don't think there's any point in pretending you don't know what you've done
10:53 ^akiharu its okay, you can tell me
10:53 ^akiharu im not going to pretend
10:54 Charleyutton the one question left in my mind is, how did you know kontrium's password?
10:54 ^akiharu we can have the conversation man to man
10:54 Charleyutton we noticed that kontrium had been logging in at peculiar times
10:54 ^akiharu aah
10:54 Charleyutton checked his IP and it wasn't from poland
10:54 Charleyutton so we ran a security check on him
10:55 Charleyutton you didn't cover your tracks quite as well as you hoped I think
10:55 ^akiharu and may I ask why you think (or know) that Kontrium is me?
10:55 ^akiharu or how
10:55 ^akiharu you don't have to answer anything
10:56 ^akiharu i'm just asking you if you can tell me that is
10:57 Charleyutton I can
10:57 Charleyutton but I'd like to you answer my question first
10:58 ^akiharu okay what is the question
10:58 Charleyutton 10:54 Charleyutton the one question left in my mind is, how did you know kontrium's password?
10:59 ^akiharu firstly, Id like to apologize
11:00 ^akiharu regarding kontrium's password
11:00 ^akiharu to be honest, I have many people's
11:01 ^akiharu it is a simple matter of omitted
11:01 ^akiharu omitted
11:01 ^akiharu omitted
11:02 ^akiharu and thats it
11:02 ^akiharu i have taken the omitted down ages ago though
11:02 ^akiharu omitted
11:02 Charleyutton you're a cunt, you know that right?
11:03 ^akiharu yes
11:03 ^akiharu well I'm truly sorry for it
11:04 ^akiharu i actually appreciate your discretion so far
11:04 ^akiharu if what you want me to do is leave vcmp as a whole, i will take responsibility and do that
11:05 ^akiharu please let me know what it is that you want
11:05 Charleyutton what it is I want
11:06 Charleyutton to be honest I haven't really thought about it that way
11:06 Charleyutton I wasn't going to use this to blackmail you
11:06 Charleyutton rather, I was going to post it in the public to defame you and then any consequences would be outside of my hands
11:07 Charleyutton thijn is here now
11:07 ^akiharu well if that is what you want then you have every right to do that
11:07 Charleyutton do you mind if we switch to #ghhs ?
11:07 ^akiharu im talking to you now actually
11:08 Charleyutton I'm not going to demand that you leave VC:MP
11:08 ^akiharu well you may demand anything
11:09 Charleyutton a lifetime supply of cake
11:09 Charleyutton nah but seriously
11:09 ^akiharu blackmailing will not work though, i'd much rather you do what you feel is best
11:09 Charleyutton I'm going to post this publicly, what you want to do with it is your choice
11:09 Charleyutton I think even if you stayed here
11:09 Charleyutton you'd be hated by so many people
11:09 Charleyutton that no matter what you did, you couldn't win
11:10 ^akiharu is that what you wish to do?
11:10 ^akiharu i implore you not to, but if there is nothing else I can do to salvage the situation
11:10 ^akiharu then I guess I have no choice
11:11 Charleyutton how much does ULK know?
11:12 ^akiharu ULK knows very little
11:12 ^akiharu other than for personal sickminded entertainment purposes
11:12 Charleyutton there's very little to know actually
11:13 Charleyutton there are no big secrets in VU
11:13 Charleyutton you ruined your chances here for nothing, pretty much
11:13 ^akiharu there are none in ULK either
11:14 ^akiharu let me know what you want; just tell me if defaming my character and name is your only option
11:14 Charleyutton well what else is there?
11:14 Charleyutton I'm not just gonna let you walk out of VC:MP with your pride and reputation in tact
11:15 Charleyutton and I hate brokering deals behind closed doors
11:15 Charleyutton everyone has the right to know everything in this mod
11:15 ^akiharu in that case
11:16 ^akiharu this is something you can hold against me eternally. i do request you to wait until i can fulfill my mission here before you do such thing
11:16 Charleyutton what's your mission?
11:17 ^akiharu let me release the new script, let me fix what I can within ULK, and let me pass on all the payments for the websites
11:18 ^akiharu and I will pack my suitcase and leave
11:18 ^akiharu you are free to forever tarnish my name after
11:18 Charleyutton what new script?
11:18 ^akiharu it's something I have been working on
11:19 Charleyutton to be honest I hate what you've done with XE
11:19 ^akiharu the plan/instructions for venkat itself is more than 2 pages
11:19 Charleyutton removing Tical was a dick move
11:19 ^akiharu i haven't done anything with XE
11:19 ^akiharu tical has not been removed
11:19 ^akiharu nothing has changed yet
11:19 Charleyutton yes he has, you told me so 2 days ago
11:19 Charleyutton again with the lies
11:19 Charleyutton when do you stop?
11:19 ^akiharu it's not a lie
11:20 Charleyutton we're gonna start going in circles here
11:20 Charleyutton you removed tical
11:20 Charleyutton that's a fact
11:20 ^akiharu if you didn't know when I was talking to you, did you not sense that I was partially consulting you?
11:20 Charleyutton no I didn't and don't try to flatter me
11:20 ^akiharu did you not sense that I was asking for your opinion or else why would i care?
11:20 ^akiharu i never flatter anyone
11:21 ^akiharu you're right we're going in circles now
11:21 Charleyutton in answer to your question, no
11:21 Charleyutton I will not wait until your mission is over
11:21 Charleyutton releasing a new stable script is not something that can be done quickly
11:22 ^akiharu alright
11:22 Charleyutton Venkat has not scripted in a long time. He's a great guy, but it's bound to have a few bugs just like the script did when we released it a year ago
11:22 ^akiharu fair enough
11:22 Charleyutton fixing what you can in ULK has an indeterminate time-frame
11:22 Charleyutton I have no idea how long that would take, or whether it's even possible
11:22 ^akiharu Charley Utton it was a pleasure knowing you
11:23 Charleyutton laters
11:23 ^akiharu cya

Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.

I resign from XE, as does Thijn and jUan. I haven't spoken to others yet, but I'd imagine the rest of VU will resign too. I would not want to help in a server ran by Ray, so why would I help in a server ran by aki?

Aki, you disgust me.

P.S. He probably has your passwords, so it would be wise to change them
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Ryne on May 26, 2012, 10:37:05 am
o.O  never expected this from u aki...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Midiox on May 26, 2012, 10:43:30 am
oh my god, This is a busy day
o.O  never expected this from u aki...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 26, 2012, 10:45:44 am
Its sad to know we had a Ray among us.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: koray on May 26, 2012, 10:47:57 am
It didn't make me shocked.You had to take care of your managements ; not with some little problems.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on May 26, 2012, 10:52:35 am
Pretty much a disappointment.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Avinash on May 26, 2012, 11:01:31 am
 ??? http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?topic=1638.0 = akiharu?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: WiLsOn on May 26, 2012, 11:06:18 am
damn shit :/
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 11:07:33 am
??? http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?topic=1638.0 = akiharu?

No
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Zeke on May 26, 2012, 11:08:24 am
o.O  never expected this from u aki...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 26, 2012, 11:19:52 am
cool story bro... ;D
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Midiox on May 26, 2012, 11:22:25 am
cool story bro... ;D
rofl, it's not a story it's the truth
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 26, 2012, 11:27:04 am
Meh, why did he do this to us? I have seen Aki as a loyal person, untill now...

Okay, so ULK enemy list?:

Bishop
+Akiharu


EDIT: I have just noticed that XE's forum is down. Wut?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Metalord on May 26, 2012, 11:44:24 am
I didn't expect this from you, akiharu. What a shame.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Midiox on May 26, 2012, 11:49:09 am
EDIT: I have just noticed that XE's forum is down. Wut?
ulk's forum too
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 26, 2012, 12:11:36 pm
Seriously? Didn't I foresight something like this like 5 days ago? http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?topic=2429.30 (http://vu.vrocker-hosting.co.uk/index.php?topic=2429.30) -.-

Don't get me wrong, ULK.Akiharu's actions are horrible and unjustifiable, but you can't deny that this is Kontriums fault as-well. I'm 99% sure that the only reason this forum was broken into is because he used the same password on multiple forums or servers (ULK's forum perhaps?).
How much do I have to whine and bitch for mods/admins to use individual passwords for the forums they manage to prevent bullshit like this ever happening? These are the simplest and most basic security measures there are and declining to use them is just plain stupid.



Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Nadeem on May 26, 2012, 12:21:18 pm
omg what i am reading :( .I can't even think about it .when i met aki before ,i was glad that i saw a loyal and a great person .May be this guy is Ray? .Thats embarrassing.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 12:22:15 pm
Nah Skirmant, that's not how it was done. He likely has all of our passwords, even if you use different ones for each forum.

Nadeem, no, he's not ray.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 26, 2012, 12:37:30 pm
Nah Skirmant, that's not how it was done. He likely has all of our passwords, even if you use different ones for each forum.

Then how did he magically find out Kontrium's pass if it was never used on any other forum?
Or are you implying that ray shared our database with him?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 12:47:08 pm
No, as you can see in the original post, his methods have been omitted to stop anyone else from trying to emulate them.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 26, 2012, 01:20:32 pm
No, as you can see in the original post, his methods have been omitted to stop anyone else from trying to emulate them.
His methods did include getting passwords from another forum and using them here. Our forum never got hacked by him, he used a password that he got on another forum or server.

So like Skirmant is trying to tell everybody:
USE DIFFERENT PASSWORDS
Especially when you have admin rights or right like member boards.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Dead_Man on May 26, 2012, 01:27:19 pm
You sirs from VU... Have just become gods.

GG akiharu... as i never liked ULK, this is the best day of my vcmp life.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Kelvin on May 26, 2012, 01:43:16 pm
It didn't make me shocked.You had to take care of your managements ; not with some little problems.

And if you resign from XE,make a new server and make me resign from there.And i always trust you there.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: XGamer on May 26, 2012, 01:46:47 pm
Look who's hacking, the leader himself.

i resigned to.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: antY_ARMY on May 26, 2012, 01:51:56 pm
ULK being ULK, what else?  ::)

I was actually laughing on my chair while I was reading this post.
As a matter of fact its a relief that everyone can now see how asshole akiharu is.
I never really understood how could anyone "respect" a guy like this. As newk says every post of him was kind of sarcastic and jocular and everyone took them seriously.
 
Oh god the cliches he used "I have a mission, then ill leave", "Blackmailing", "I will leave and never come back, ever...*tear*", What the fuck...?
Does he really need to turn this into a movie? This is just a small gaming comunity, his life is not ruined or something like that, it's just a simple game that will be dead in the next decades and noone will care about it.
People are so dramatic sometimes.

Yes he's a stupidass and he should be banned from some places, but lets not take over it.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 26, 2012, 02:00:26 pm
Oh god the cliches he used "I have a mission, then ill leave", "Blackmailing", "I will leave and never come back, ever...*tear*", What the fuck...?

Dreams of a fat kid who sits all day glancing at his monitor through those ass wide glasses...simple no lifers
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thomas on May 26, 2012, 02:25:02 pm
i can't imagine :<
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 26, 2012, 02:39:17 pm
just got a bit free time and made this to suit this situation


Clicky Clicky ---> http://i.imgur.com/RGwAZ.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/RGwAZ.jpg)





( expecting epic fail though -.-" )
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Gudio on May 26, 2012, 02:57:34 pm
Be careful ULK... :]
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Eddy on May 26, 2012, 03:25:49 pm
God, this is incredible

Look who's hacking, the leader himself.

i resigned to.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 03:26:51 pm
...


speechless.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Midiox on May 26, 2012, 03:42:42 pm
God, this is incredible

Look who's hacking, the leader himself.

i resigned to.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 26, 2012, 04:06:42 pm
As newk says every post of him was kind of sarcastic and jocular and everyone took them seriously.
I don't remember ever saying that, but yea I'm not shocked at all anymore, my respect for ULK was already down to an all time level of 0. So, just like you said: It's just ULK being ULK. Although we can't blame this on every single member of ULK, there's a few people on ULK I still respect, very few, but still this is exactly the kind of thing an ULK member would be involved with.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: GRAND on May 26, 2012, 04:48:18 pm
Come on, Charley, make your own server :>
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 26, 2012, 04:56:13 pm
Come on, Charley, make your own server :>

SvM much?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Kelvin on May 26, 2012, 05:01:20 pm
SvM is just a Team DeathMatch server.We need a big DM server better than XE
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 05:06:10 pm
A server is on its way
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: GranDoIz on May 26, 2012, 05:06:19 pm
SvM is just a Team DeathMatch server.We need a big DM server better than XE
+1
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: WiLsOn on May 26, 2012, 05:08:21 pm
SvM is just a Team DeathMatch server.We need a big DM server better than XE
^^
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on May 26, 2012, 05:21:04 pm
...


speechless.

I thought the whole community was aware that aki had access to.. everything.

And you especially Sephiroth, since you constantly asked him for information from other clan's private forums like the better part of last year or some shit? Don't pretend to be surprised man.

I've been making public jests about aki having access to everything forever now. Guess the joke is on me.

Made jokes about that and now I'm pointing out Seph's failure of a try to detach himself from it all as well - no faux integrity for you my friend.

Sigh. And that's about all I can do. Jest.

I would apologize but since it's not my crime, it wouldn't be sincere. I'd say I'm surprised, but that would be a lie. I really thought people were aware of it.

I'd ask you not to consider a single person's actions to be seen as a clan's but I suspect ya'll wouldn't listen - it's the comeuppance this audience has been waiting for a long time. Still good to have this hopeful sentence out here.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 05:30:51 pm
I'd ask you not to consider a single person's actions to be seen as a clan's but I suspect ya'll wouldn't listen - it's the comeuppance this audience has been waiting for a long time.

Yeah you're right, people have been waiting for this. I think there are many who believe that ULK members are willing to do this sort of thing, but that they are either incapable or they just haven't been caught doing it yet. As I said in the XE forum, I'd expect exactly the same sort of thing from Bishop, Olvido and Prontera.

Akiharu is seen as the defacto leader of ULK, so his morals are seen to reflect those of his clan. ULK might have once been a bastion of integrity and unity, but I think perhaps that day is gone. With Aki doing this, Bishop flaming everyone in VC:MP, other members bitching about other clans at every opportunity and very well known internal conflicts between members, how are people meant to respect ULK? How are they meant to expect anything else?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on May 26, 2012, 05:51:59 pm
I'd ask you not to consider a single person's actions to be seen as a clan's but I suspect ya'll wouldn't listen - it's the comeuppance this audience has been waiting for a long time.

Yeah you're right, people have been waiting for this. I think there are many who believe that ULK members are willing to do this sort of thing, but that they are either incapable or they just haven't been caught doing it yet. As I said in the XE forum, I'd expect exactly the same sort of thing from Bishop, Olvido and Prontera.

Yeah, I don't think many would do this. And anyone that I believe that would and would now try to make themself look better *cough*Sephi*cough*, I'd point out.

I don't agree with anything that's been done, nor have I "reaped the rewards" of this immoral behaviour except for when I've been listening to people rant on PMs on irc regarding the content we weren't supposed to have access to. But as I said, I don't think it's right. And anyone trying to make themself look good, that doesn't deserve it, I will point out.

There isn't anything I can do to make this right or anything I could have done to stop it, but this comeuppance is deserved. I won't deny that. People need to take responsibility for what they've done. I'm not going to let anyone non-deserving bullshit their way out of it.

Perhaps my inaction is to be frowned upon as well, but apathy is a trait I appreciate in myself. And I did mock these shenanigans openly, so I don't care, I did my part.

Though again, most of ULK should be left out of this collective shame. I realize that's not going to happen, but again, the sentiment deserves to be stated.

Quote
Akiharu is seen as the defacto leader of ULK, so his morals are seen to reflect those of his clan. ULK might have once been a bastion of integrity and unity, but I think perhaps that day is gone. With Aki doing this, Bishop flaming everyone in VC:MP, other members bitching about other clans at every opportunity and very well known internal conflicts between members, how are people meant to respect ULK? How are they meant to expect anything else?

Yep, wasn't trying to argue we didn't have it coming. And aki is only seen as the defacto leader by non-ULKs. You'd hear pretty loud complaints regarding him being a leader within ULK.

EDIT; forgot about the bolded part. I think you're the only person outside ULK that might ever have believed that to be true.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 26, 2012, 06:01:48 pm
I'd ask you not to consider a single person's actions to be seen as a clan's but I suspect ya'll wouldn't listen - it's the comeuppance this audience has been waiting for a long time. Still good to have this hopeful sentence out here.
Well that's not really something you need to worry about, my respect and many other peoples' respect for ULK was already tarnished enough long before akiharu decided to do this, starting from dishonest attitudes and sheer arrogance from some ULK members to fraudulent ways to win clanwars.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on May 26, 2012, 06:09:19 pm
I'd ask you not to consider a single person's actions to be seen as a clan's but I suspect ya'll wouldn't listen - it's the comeuppance this audience has been waiting for a long time. Still good to have this hopeful sentence out here.
Well that's not really something you need to worry about, my respect and many other peoples' respect for ULK was already tarnished enough long before akiharu decided to do this, starting from dishonest attitudes and sheer arrogance from some ULK members to fraudulent ways to win clanwars.

Rest assured, I personally don't care for the respect or even the opinion of the lesser souls, but there's people in my flock that do. And the majority of those people don't deserve to be hated. Hence my posts. Trying to salvage what little I can for those who deserve it. Of all the people that read this, there might be a few people that can see past their hate (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=5959.msg44433#msg44433).
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 26, 2012, 06:46:40 pm
I'd ask you not to consider a single person's actions to be seen as a clan's but I suspect ya'll wouldn't listen - it's the comeuppance this audience has been waiting for a long time. Still good to have this hopeful sentence out here.
Well that's not really something you need to worry about, my respect and many other peoples' respect for ULK was already tarnished enough long before akiharu decided to do this, starting from dishonest attitudes and sheer arrogance from some ULK members to fraudulent ways to win clanwars.

Rest assured, I personally don't care for the respect or even the opinion of the lesser souls, but there's people in my flock that do. And the majority of those people don't deserve to be hated. Hence my posts. Trying to salvage what little I can for those who deserve it. Of all the people that read this, there might be a few people that can see past their hate (http://xe-servers.com/index.php?topic=5959.msg44433#msg44433).
Like I said, it's not only me or anty_ARMY and dead_man that lost respect for ULK, so how many of those "lesser souls" are you actually talking about? I'm sure most VU members have lost respect for ULK even before this happened, yea I'm talking about the finals of VCCT, So I guess you consider all of VU "lesser souls" too. And this was exactly what I was talking about when I said:
sheer arrogance from some ULK members
Refering to other people as lesser souls, implying you are superior; that helped prove my point and yea I know you don't care about the opinion of a"lesser soul" like me right? I mean, forgive me oh great one! But it's just in case anyone doubted what I said. So like I said people have lost the respect for ULK even before this happened, not only those "lesser souls" you talk of. Also you seem think me, Dead_man and anty_ARMY are the same person, why are you showing me their posts? They have their posts and I have mine.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 26, 2012, 07:17:02 pm
The retarded prick strikes again. It‘s funny because everyone laughed at me when I was flaming him after the “Juan, I am truly sorry you are leaving vcmp“ drama. I am not surprised at all because like people said, this is the kind of shit ulk does. Thumbs up to dead_man and anty.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on May 26, 2012, 07:22:53 pm
That sheer arrogance can be attributed to me and a few others at best. Not to the whole clan.

Generalizing is a huge flaw in thinking, and hate is a petty emotion. It is not uncommon for the small-minded though. So as far as "proving points" goes, you proved my non-direct go at lesser souls true as well, making yourself part of that group, and you seem intent on including Dead_man, Anty_army and the entirety of VU to that group as well. At no point had I made it personal towards anyone in particular :)

All I was doing was making a general plea in hopes some people might not hold a few bad members representative of the clan as a whole. We're not all bad and not all of ULK deserves to be treated as such.

Oh btw, what did you mean by this:
Quote from: NewK
Also you seem think me, Dead_man and anty_ARMY are the same person, why are you showing me their posts? They have their posts and I have mine.

I have not quoted them nor referred to them, hell - I didn't even refer to you until you wanted to make it about you showing up and trying to insist your respect is a treasure we have lost now. Have you lost your mind?

My link to the XE thread takes to Tical's post in particular if you click on it. He's got a colorful way of saying things. I was referring to Tical's post, not the thread.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 26, 2012, 07:28:18 pm
I may be full of disrespect and hatred when it comes to ulk but there 3 maybe 4 people in there that don‘t deserve this kind of treatment and you, hazz, are one of them.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on May 26, 2012, 07:49:51 pm
Alright anyways, I'd be working against my original agenda here now anyways if I continued arguing, so I'll state this again, as Tical did on XE:

I apologize on the behalf of the clan and again, I'd appreciate it a lot if the innocent ULK could be left out of this collective shame-and-hate. And I realize and understand it's a hard thing to filter through the detest in a matter like this.

The guilty ones have had it coming, I'm not going to defend or justify them.

And if you feel like attacking me again, please do so in PM. I'd rather not defend my own person here, since that's a different issue.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 26, 2012, 08:21:39 pm
A server is on its way

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Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 26, 2012, 08:35:20 pm
Generalizing is a huge flaw in thinking, and hate is a petty emotion. It is not uncommon for the small-minded though. So as far as "proving points" goes, you proved my non-direct go at lesser souls true as well, making yourself part of that group, and you seem intent on including Dead_man, Anty_army and the entirety of VU to that group as well. At no point had I made it personal towards anyone in particular :)
Well you did replied to me, saying you didn't care about the opinion of lesser souls so of course I automatically thought you were refering to me and you replied with a link to that thread and did said "there might be a few people that can see past their hate" while tical's reply was directed at anty_ARMY and Dead_man, so it's easy to assume you were talking about them because you know they're not too fond of some ULK members and viceversa.
Oh btw, what did you mean by this:
Quote from: NewK
Also you seem think me, Dead_man and anty_ARMY are the same person, why are you showing me their posts? They have their posts and I have mine.

I have not quoted them nor referred to them, hell - I didn't even refer to you until you wanted to make it about you showing up and trying to insist your respect is a treasure we have lost now. Have you lost your mind?
Like I said, Tical's post was directed at them so It's an understandable assumption to make that you were refering to them aswell. And I'm not trying to insist my respect is a treasure, I knew before posting that no one in ULK cares about my respect or whatever I think, what I was trying to tell you is that it's not only me and those "lesser souls" you speak of that have lost respect for ULK. Also maybe you missed something on my first post?
Although we can't blame this on every single member of ULK, there's a few people on ULK I still respect
As you see I'm not generalizing, I know people in ULK are not all the same, for me to be generalizing I would have to know every single member in ULK and I don't.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Donstald on May 26, 2012, 08:36:16 pm
Nothing less was expect from akiharu, but this time you  are drowning along with rest of the gang. Who knows, how many others were also involved with this situation in secret and not to mention Sephiroth. ewww..
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
And you especially Sephiroth, since you constantly asked him for information from other clan's private forums like the better part of last year or some shit? Don't pretend to be surprised man.
you mean in 2009? when he was on a lw manager's account, trying to find out what it took to get me in there as a ULK representative admin on LW? That doesn't relate to this at all imo. I just didn't think he would view VU private forums to be honest. viewing a rival gang's private forums has absolutely no relation to viewing a server's private forum

Yeah, I don't think many would do this. And anyone that I believe that would and would now try to make themself look better *cough*Sephi*cough*, I'd point out.
And let me just get this out of the way right now, I could care less how anyone sees me in this community anymore. I don't care for it enough to bother. I'm just with ULK, I haven't played vcmp actively in a long time and I don't plan on it in the future either. I fully admitted a long time ago to the whole littlewhiteys scandal and my part in it.
So please tell me how am i trying to make myself look better? My reputation is tarnished and i dont give a fuck

Nothing less was expect from akiharu, but this time you  are drowning along with rest of the gang. Who knows, how many others were also involved with this situation in secret and not to mention Sephiroth. ewww..
excuse me, who are you? you werent even around during the last akiharu situation. get off the bandwagon tard
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 26, 2012, 08:45:26 pm
I don't see what is there to debate about ULK. I never liked them and I always knew that they were assholes.
I knew this before today's events, before VCCT and even before joining VU.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 26, 2012, 08:58:50 pm
Damn, the community seems to be tearing apart, a bit....
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 26, 2012, 08:59:00 pm
Ah this aki and LW's management rights solves a mystery I've been puzzling over for a few years now. Akiharu was banned on LWs back in 2008 for using hacks. Only he wasn't using the name Aki, he was using the name Sophie and was adamant that 'he' was a girl. 'She' used the same email address as aki and 'her' IP traced back to the same place as his.

When Strike and I found out and started chatting about it, his ban appeal mysteriously disappeared and no one knew how, or who had done it. Funny shit, so Aki you're not only like Ray, you're also like Ashay. How embarrassing.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Knucis on May 26, 2012, 09:04:49 pm
Seriously, fuck this shit. I am tired of so many retarded people doing retarded things for such a meanless game. Was it really worth it?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 09:05:41 pm
i dont even know my part in this anymore.. i wanna say i dont care about it but i do in a way...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: X_94 on May 26, 2012, 09:06:11 pm
Who gives a fuck?, only kino, rilex and some few others are good members, everybody else are the same :P

CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS NOOOOBS!!!
Right Now  8)
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 09:07:32 pm
CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS NOOOOBS!!!
Right Now  8)

honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: antY_ARMY on May 26, 2012, 09:12:04 pm
I don't know why my name is being refered so many times in so many posts, as i've never refered akiharu as the whole ULK clan, but only has his main representative.
If i did any of this please quote me.

Also i just like to point out "lesser souls"  ::), mighty god..................
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 26, 2012, 09:24:35 pm
honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.

Bullshit.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 09:33:50 pm
honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.

Bullshit.


changing a password wont work if someone can retrieve the password no matter what it is
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 26, 2012, 09:43:35 pm
honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.

Bullshit.



changing a password wont work if someone can retrieve the password no matter what it is

And does one gain these bullshit powers?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: stormeus on May 26, 2012, 09:45:18 pm
And does one gain these bullshit powers?

By <omitted>
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 09:45:33 pm
honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.

Bullshit.



changing a password wont work if someone can retrieve the password no matter what it is

And how does one gain these bullshit powers?

exploits, bugs, infiltration code injection, maliciousness


you'll know what i mean when you look up the actual definition of hacking

what he did isnt some ray shit, reading a password from a list then using it everywhere.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 09:54:35 pm
Made jokes about that and now I'm pointing out Seph's failure of a try to detach himself from it all as well - no faux integrity for you my friend.

I'm not attached to this situation in the first place. none of us in ulk knew he had access to VU private forums. I'm actually surprised he hasn't posted anything from there in our private forums as well.

tell me what exactly am I trying to hide hazz? I don't give a fuck. Call me out on anything here, I will address it all truthfully. I am not gonna hide anything that myself or anyone else has done that i had knowledge of. And regardless of gang/staff whatever i wont needlessly defend someone. Not conforming to anyone else anymore

so if theres anything you want to know ask it right here and now. Same if you want to try and call me out on something

It's time for me to have my own voice for once, instead of someone speaking through me. Fuck everyone.

hit me
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 26, 2012, 10:04:52 pm
honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.

Bullshit.



changing a password wont work if someone can retrieve the password no matter what it is

And how does one gain these bullshit powers?

exploits, bugs, infiltration code injection, maliciousness


you'll know what i mean when you look up the actual definition of hacking

what he did isnt some ray shit, reading a password from a list then using it everywhere.
He did use Ray shit, just on another way..
He never got access to our forum and thus never got my password or any other one who uses different passwords..
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on May 26, 2012, 10:06:18 pm
Alright, my bad NewK. Perhaps I was assuming too much.

That's all I wanted to make sure here, hate me all you want, just don't direct that distaste towards everyone that shares my tag just because of my arrogance. :>
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 26, 2012, 10:10:21 pm
honestly, for the methods akiharu uses, i doubt that will do any good.

Bullshit.



changing a password wont work if someone can retrieve the password no matter what it is

And how does one gain these bullshit powers?

exploits, bugs, infiltration code injection, maliciousness


you'll know what i mean when you look up the actual definition of hacking

what he did isnt some ray shit, reading a password from a list then using it everywhere.
He did use Ray shit, just on another way..
He never got access to our forum and thus never got my password or any other one who uses different passwords..



really? I guess he didn't use the same patterns here than as when he hacked into lw forums
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: X_94 on May 26, 2012, 10:11:36 pm
Alright, my bad NewK. Perhaps I was assuming too much.

That's all I wanted to make sure here, hate me all you want, just don't direct that distaste towards everyone that shares my tag just because of my arrogance. :>

i guess the ppl is so busy changing their passwords to hate you (i guess :P)

:D
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 26, 2012, 10:40:24 pm
Alright, my bad NewK. Perhaps I was assuming too much.

That's all I wanted to make sure here, hate me all you want, just don't direct that distaste towards everyone that shares my tag just because of my arrogance. :>
Hate is a strong word I have no reason to hate you, I just dislike arrogant remarks that's all.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kevinsito on May 26, 2012, 11:24:03 pm
Oh
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: DarKFirE on May 27, 2012, 12:35:59 am
Dude...
God, this is very painful not expect anything bad come from a person that seemed serious, not only affects the same but also puts the ULK clan in a difficult situation.  :-\
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: X_94 on May 27, 2012, 02:51:09 am
Dude...
God, this is very painful not expect anything bad come from a person that seemed serious, not only affects the same but also puts the ULK clan in a difficult situation.  :-\


ULK and it's rePUTAtion is the most unimportant thing here, THE PROBLEM ARE THE PASSWORDS AND AKIHARU WITH EM...!

 :blank:
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: tato on May 27, 2012, 05:33:57 am
never expect this from him, he's been with XE as a manager since 2009... :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: GangstaRas on May 27, 2012, 05:57:22 am
Seriously, fuck this shit. I am tired of so many retarded people doing retarded things for such a meanless game. Was it really worth it?

With power comes greed. heh, aki used to teach me how to fight back in the day wen all u cud hear was hanney or him the pros of vcmp. even in tht log, he still had the maturity i met him with bt shit. heh, i remember the days wen i sed fuck it, i wanna be in a clan and i was trying so hard to apply for ulk cuz i respected em and they seemed like the big leaders........aki.......olvido, he was my close gud frend here b4 vu and ulk and all this shit on these ppl now.......ulk..................................the malicious members.................how does 1 find time for this? where is the social life time?!!!! the life itself.....the girlfriends man!!!!! THE BITCHES!!!!! the floppy drive......is it the new pussy to ram rewarding u hack time? O.o"
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 27, 2012, 06:44:02 am
Thijn, y u no hack their forums instead?  :P
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Maverick on May 27, 2012, 07:04:51 am
Hmm. this reminds me of GTASA mission - Riot.

Well, I don't know akiharu much, probably not at all,  but I have always read up about him and his long line of acknowledgements to support XE and w/e else.

I guess, to me, this is just one of those ''doozies'' that come out of nowhere, like anty's brought-up gimic perspective of a novel. Well.. I see VC-MP as a novel.. And hearing this is like watching a conflict and a climax converge into each other. Or as one might say an ''unexpected event.''

On other ends... I still believe that ULK is a good clan, and for what reason aki may have done, shouldn't be looked & ridiculed to ULK as an whole. Let me be specific, as of thinking any less of ULK than what you have already though of in the past-time.



Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on May 27, 2012, 11:15:54 am
Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.

Yeah no, just himself for now at least. Unless ulk have been using private info for their own benefit (I don't know, do you?) I think you're all just using this as an excuse to vent your anger/frustration at ulk when it isn't warranted. As the leader of VU I expected more rationality from you.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Rathan on May 27, 2012, 11:32:32 am
wtf
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: buda on May 27, 2012, 11:42:36 am
Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.

Yeah no, just himself for now at least. Unless ulk have been using private info for their own benefit (I don't know, do you?) I think you're all just using this as an excuse to vent your anger/frustration at ulk when it isn't warranted. As the leader of VU I expected more rationality from you.

well its obvious akiharu did, just take a look at his latest post on xe forums
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2012, 11:56:19 am
Thijn, y u no hack their forums instead?  :P

....Glad to see you're still an impulsive dumbass
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2012, 12:16:43 pm
Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.

Yeah no, just himself for now at least. Unless ulk have been using private info for their own benefit (I don't know, do you?) I think you're all just using this as an excuse to vent your anger/frustration at ulk when it isn't warranted. As the leader of VU I expected more rationality from you.

Also let me just clarify, he hasn't posted a single thing about the contents of VU's private forum (before he got caught that is). We had no knowledge whatsoever of him doing this, or his access to it.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 27, 2012, 01:24:01 pm
Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.

Yeah no, just himself for now at least. Unless ulk have been using private info for their own benefit (I don't know, do you?) I think you're all just using this as an excuse to vent your anger/frustration at ulk when it isn't warranted. As the leader of VU I expected more rationality from you.

Also let me just clarify, he hasn't posted a single thing about the contents of VU's private forum (before he got caught that is). We had no knowledge whatsoever of him doing this, or his access to it.

I talked to a member of your clan and he told me he knew about this all this time.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: shakejunt on May 27, 2012, 01:28:02 pm
Probably other ULK's knew about this before and now claim to not know anything.
p.s. lol fuck ulk
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 27, 2012, 01:31:28 pm
Ofcourse they knew. Maybe not all of them but most did know. And by not trying to put an end to it you actually supported him in what he was doing. There goes your reputation too.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 27, 2012, 01:41:27 pm
none of us in ulk knew he had access to VU private forums. I'm actually surprised he hasn't posted anything from there in our private forums as well.

That's a lie

Also let me just clarify, he hasn't posted a single thing about the contents of VU's private forum (before he got caught that is). We had no knowledge whatsoever of him doing this, or his access to it.

That's a lie

Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.
Unless ulk have been using private info for their own benefit (I don't know, do you?)

Yes, I do.

Akiharu has tarnished the reputation of his clan and the server that it is trying to manage by itself.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2012, 02:11:45 pm
none of us in ulk knew he had access to VU private forums. I'm actually surprised he hasn't posted anything from there in our private forums as well.
That's a lie

That's not a lie, we didn't know he had access until you caught him.

Also let me just clarify, he hasn't posted a single thing about the contents of VU's private forum (before he got caught that is). We had no knowledge whatsoever of him doing this, or his access to it.
That's a lie

Unfortunately you're right. He has posted little things here and there. I had no clue it was confidential information.


Let me just clarify that I have absolutely no intention of hiding anything for akiharu. If I knew it I'd say it. I have nothing but utter disgust and distrust for him at this point in time.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 27, 2012, 02:40:52 pm
Alright, Sephiroth was kind enough to share with me a topic that was posted in the ULK private forum before we caught Aki on Kontrium's account.

Quote
I would, however, like to enlighten you a little based on my inferences from the activity that has been going on behind closed doors, among VU members. When Charley left XE, he did not leave quietly; he made it a big deal among VU members. It may be a tad bit pithy to say that he is sublimely "instigating a boycott" among VU members, but the fact of the matter is that it is true. He is well aware of what kind of reaction he can incite among VU members, and he has shamelessly manipulated a sort of negative agression in VU towards XE.
 
In a thread that Charley has started in VU forums that announces him leaving XE, he has described a new server that he will be creating as "fair, democratic and friendly" unlike some "other" servers, ostensibly making a subtle hint that he is referring to XE.

I'd just like to dispel a few of the lies he posted here. I'll quote from the actual posts made, unedited:

So I quit XE, but that doesn't mean I've quit VC:MP - quite the opposite.

After my exams finish (20th May) I'm gonna be making and launching a new server. It will be a community run server which is fair, democratic and friendly. It won't be like other VC:MP servers in a number of respects; I'll reveal more details closer to the time.

There will be opportunities for almost anyone who wants to help to get involved, they'll also be revealed closer to the time.

Finally, VU will own VC:MP  ;D

Nah, this is going to be a community server not a VU server. If VU owned VC:MP then we wouldn't have anyone else to play with; having no competition is boring.

Having said that I'd imagine that VU will take a large role in the administration team etc. but still, at its core it is community centred.

So first of all

'It will be a community run server which is fair, democratic and friendly. It won't be like other VC:MP servers in a number of respects; I'll reveal more details closer to the time.'

These are two separate points. The differences between this server and other servers will be in the way they're played, it was clearly not meant as a jibe at XE.

Contrary to his comment about the community centre just being 'rhetoric', the management team for the new server consists of 2 VUs, 2 ULKs, 1 MK and 1 clanless player. I assure you this server is community centred. The reason I said that VU will most likely have a large role in administration is because there's so many of us and many of us are able. I did not say that MK, ULK or whatever other clan won't have a large role.

I have absolutely not tried to turn VU against XE, in fact not once have I asked any VU to stop playing there or helping out before this shit happened. In fact I've been playing in XE more than I ever have over the last month or two, kicking and banning cheaters. As have my VU clanmates.

Sephiroth was also kind enough to share another post of his:

Quote
Today, I took ULK forums down because I was afraid of an attack against us. In fact, I think VU is the only gang out there that has a private forum with discussions on how a website/forum's security can be compromised - how hacking is done.

This is just an out and out lie. We do not teach people to hack forums here, in fact it has never been mentioned. If anyone ever tried to post something like a guide to hack forums we would take it out instantly. Stop lying Akiharu, jesus, do you have no shame?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 27, 2012, 02:42:30 pm
none of us in ulk knew he had access to VU private forums. I'm actually surprised he hasn't posted anything from there in our private forums as well.
That's a lie

That's not a lie, we didn't know he had access until you caught him.

Bullshit
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2012, 02:46:43 pm
none of us in ulk knew he had access to VU private forums. I'm actually surprised he hasn't posted anything from there in our private forums as well.
That's a lie

That's not a lie, we didn't know he had access until you caught him.

Bullshit

You have to be fucking kidding me. Read your leader's post.


By the way, some of you may see me showing these topics from ulk forums that akiharu made as a breach of privacy or betrayal of some sort. It's nothing but damage control. If everyone thinks we as ulk had prior knowledge of him having access and knowing he was posting compromised information, then that is a huge issue.

Turns out this is the big piece he posted that we had no idea was compromised information.

The only person at risk when I share that private post he made in ULK forums is akiharu himself. If i hadn't showed it, we as the rest of ULK would all still be tarnished as the same kind of scum that akiharu is.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: XGamer on May 27, 2012, 02:52:23 pm
Quote
Today, I took ULK forums down because I was afraid of an attack against us. In fact, I think VU is the only gang out there that has a private forum with discussions on how a website/forum's security can be compromised - how hacking is done.

Or you didn't want to show your members the truth?

I don't know why you still keep fighting, give up.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 27, 2012, 02:52:46 pm
Turns out this is the big piece he posted that we had no idea was compromised information.

I can accept that you might not have seen and read that topic, but to presume that the rest of your clan also were ignorant of it would be naive.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 27, 2012, 03:10:39 pm
He was leaking our private forums with you and you still had no idea he had access? You are either extremely stupid or just lying.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2012, 03:10:56 pm
i can accept that charley, but let me just add that unless prompted, none of us really check the forums.

Quote from: hackiharu
Today, I took ULK forums down because I was afraid of an attack against us. In fact, I think VU is the only gang out there that has a private forum with discussions on how a website/forum's security can be compromised - how hacking is done.

I truly believe the only reason akiharu was saying stuff like this in his apology topic to ULK is to try and justify him having access to your private section, expecting mentally triggered reactions such as like "aki you're our hero!"


He was leaking our private forums with you and you still had no idea he had access? You are either extremely stupid or just lying.
He did it one time, in a topic that none of us replied to or were prompted to look at. It was also less than a paragraph of compromised information, sandwiched between about 18 paragraphs in an essay about XE

Most of us truly do not know how long he has had access to your forums and if he still does or not.


Ok and now I just found out that hazz, and a few others knew for a long time about akiharu's access and didn't say a thing or try to stop it. 

I'm done trying to defend a cause because my only point in keeping the fight going was to prove the innocence of my clanmates, and apparently that innocent is null and void.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Dead_Man on May 27, 2012, 07:51:35 pm
I'm done trying to defend a cause because my only point in keeping the fight going was to prove the innocence of my clanmates, and apparently that innocent is null and void.
its fair enough that you are trying to at least protect the "innocents" from within the clan as i would do the same if something happened in clan i was in, but you can't also deny that ULKs reputation is below zero right now, as most of the elder members and high ranks in the clan knew of what akiharu was doing and didn't gave a shit about it.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on May 27, 2012, 08:12:39 pm
Quote from: hackiharu
Today, I took ULK forums down because I was afraid of an attack against us. In fact, I think VU is the only gang out there that has a private forum with discussions on how a website/forum's security can be compromised - how hacking is done.
No such thing lies within our forums, we treat hackers with active aggression.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 27, 2012, 08:49:25 pm
Quote from: hackiharu
Today, I took ULK forums down because I was afraid of an attack against us. In fact, I think VU is the only gang out there that has a private forum with discussions on how a website/forum's security can be compromised - how hacking is done.

Seriously..!? This guy is suppose to be the elite forum hacker that Sephiroth was referring to?

Ether Aki was listening to a bunch of childish rumors, or he is bullshiting us to cover something up.
I tend to think of option 2, because he had full access to our 'super secret' forum when he broke into Kontrium's account.

Until reading this I felt like he was truly sorry for what was done. But seeing that all he did is lie, I really doubt he will ever redeem himself.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2012, 08:51:34 pm
Quote from: hackiharu
Today, I took ULK forums down because I was afraid of an attack against us. In fact, I think VU is the only gang out there that has a private forum with discussions on how a website/forum's security can be compromised - how hacking is done.

Seriously..!? This guy is suppose to be the elite forum hacker that Sephiroth was referring to?

Ether Aki was listening to a bunch of childish rumors, or he is bullshiting us to cover something up.
I tend to think of option 2, because he had full access to our 'super secret' forum when he broke into Kontrium's account.

Until reading this I felt like you were truly sorry for what you did. But seeing that all you do is lie, I really doubt you will ever redeem yourself.


Like I said, he told us that to justify himself for having access to the other confidential information.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: stormeus on May 27, 2012, 09:17:45 pm
he told us that to justify himself for having access to the other confidential information.

Shame. At least Ray didn't try to justify his bullshit with more bullshit.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: X_94 on May 27, 2012, 09:33:26 pm
Shame. At least Ray didn't try to justify his bullshit with more bullshit.

Seriously, this is the most intelligent comment in this topic.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: buda on May 27, 2012, 09:42:18 pm
Shame. At least Ray didn't try to justify his bullshit with more bullshit.

Seriously, this is the most intelligent comment in this topic.

although it cant top foxtrot's posts hating on ulk like if he had to do it to keep living, lol.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Rathan on May 28, 2012, 06:43:23 am
wht happend over here
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Donstald on May 28, 2012, 07:02:46 am
@ Sephiroth - You seemed so angry got no words? "who are you?" eh? that's the best you got?. Don't try to hide the fact that akiharu was caught at hacking accounts. And you also seem to be talking in Akiharu's favor, although he hacked VU forum and its member's account and not just Kontrium's account, he has a list of bunch of other players( their account private info).
Judging by the logs charley provided, i think akiharu was suppose to leave VCMP after this, but i don't think he is man enough to do that. Instead he is trying to get is fame back and you too, trying to back him
up or something.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on May 28, 2012, 07:09:54 am
@ Sephiroth - You seemed so angry got no words? "who are you?" eh? that's the best you got?. Don't try to hide the fact that akiharu was caught at hacking accounts. And you also seem to be talking in Akiharu's favor, although he hacked VU forum and its member's account and not just Kontrium's account, he has a list of bunch of other players( their account private info).
Judging by the logs charley provided, i think akiharu was suppose to leave VCMP after this, but i don't think he is man enough to do that. Instead he is trying to get is fame back and you too, trying to back him up or something.
I advise you to remove this post.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2012, 07:30:30 am
@ Sephiroth - You seemed so angry got no words? "who are you?" eh? that's the best you got?. Don't try to hide the fact that akiharu was caught at hacking accounts. And you also seem to be talking in Akiharu's favor, although he hacked VU forum and its member's account and not just Kontrium's account, he has a list of bunch of other players( their account private info).
Judging by the logs charley provided, i think akiharu was suppose to leave VCMP after this, but i don't think he is man enough to do that. Instead he is trying to get is fame back and you too, trying to back him up or something.
I advise you to remove this post.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Ajeet on May 28, 2012, 07:32:55 am
@ Sephiroth - You seemed so angry got no words? "who are you?" eh? that's the best you got?. Don't try to hide the fact that akiharu was caught at hacking accounts. And you also seem to be talking in Akiharu's favor, although he hacked VU forum and its member's account and not just Kontrium's account, he has a list of bunch of other players( their account private info).
Judging by the logs charley provided, i think akiharu was suppose to leave VCMP after this, but i don't think he is man enough to do that. Instead he is trying to get is fame back and you too, trying to back him up or something.
I advise you to remove this post.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Donstald on May 28, 2012, 07:45:08 am
lol no shit. ":P i don't wanna be assassinated by those morons.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on May 28, 2012, 07:47:33 am
lol no shit. ":P i don't wanna be assassinated by those morons.
Not my point.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Donstald on May 28, 2012, 07:48:20 am
mind explaining?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 28, 2012, 07:52:06 am
offtopic : ferrari come to irc for.a.sec
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2012, 07:52:34 am
mind explaining?

Sephiroth isnt favouring Akiharu now, actually he wasnt ever...moreover now he has helped cutton abit against Akiharu
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Donstald on May 28, 2012, 07:59:34 am
I was only answering to him. What he said to me about joining this bandwagon out of nowhere. I am aware of what was going on from the beginning right after the very first post of charls. 
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sora_Blue on May 28, 2012, 08:46:02 am
What i like to see now is how ULK will get itself out of this disqusting position.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Ajeet on May 28, 2012, 09:10:54 am
What i like to see now is how ULK will get itself out of this disqusting position.

wait and watch...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 28, 2012, 09:12:46 am
What i like to see now is how ULK will get itself out of this disqusting position.

If they don't kick akiharu, there's not a lot that they can do.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2012, 09:14:31 am
What i like to see now is how ULK will get itself out of this disqusting position.

If they don't kick akiharu, there's not a lot that they can do.
exactly
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on May 28, 2012, 09:18:47 am
offtopic : ferrari come to irc for.a.sec
I'm there now.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 28, 2012, 09:41:33 am
What i like to see now is how ULK will get itself out of this disqusting position.

If they don't kick akiharu, there's not a lot that they can do.
The point is, how are they going to do it. Akiharu "owns" everything. There is no one on their forums that can change his membergroup or kick him. So the only way Akiharu can be kicked is by leaving himself.
I highly doubt that's going to happen..
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: buda on May 28, 2012, 09:49:57 am
in my opinion there is only one way to kick/make akiharu leave ULK, if head tells him so but as god knows where head is atm... akiharu will stay in ULK because as you said he owns everything
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 28, 2012, 10:43:26 am
in my opinion there is only one way to kick/make akiharu leave ULK, if head tells him so but as god knows where head is atm... akiharu will stay in ULK because as you said he owns everything
HeaD is on MSN right now..
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2012, 10:47:48 am
in my opinion there is only one way to kick/make akiharu leave ULK, if head tells him so but as god knows where head is atm... akiharu will stay in ULK because as you said he owns everything
Why cant they just leave Akiharu and the things he own? Akiharu is on top because there are other members under him, what if they all just leave the forums and dont associate themselves with Akiharu?
Akiharu would be left alone then.


"Only 2 things happen, either the mass follows a leader, or the leader has to follow the mass"
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 11:53:07 am
Nothing less was expect from akiharu, but this time you  are drowning along with rest of the gang. Who knows, how many others were also involved with this situation in secret and not to mention Sephiroth. ewww..

Nothing less was expect from akiharu, but this time you  are drowning along with rest of the gang. Who knows, how many others were also involved with this situation in secret and not to mention Sephiroth. ewww..
excuse me, who are you? you werent even around during the last akiharu situation. get off the bandwagon tard


@ Sephiroth - You seemed so angry got no words? "who are you?" eh? that's the best you got?. Don't try to hide the fact that akiharu was caught at hacking accounts. And you also seem to be talking in Akiharu's favor, although he hacked VU forum and its member's account and not just Kontrium's account, he has a list of bunch of other players( their account private info).
Judging by the logs charley provided, i think akiharu was suppose to leave VCMP after this, but i don't think he is man enough to do that. Instead he is trying to get is fame back and you too, trying to back him
up or something.

mind explaining?

I was only answering to him. What he said to me about joining this bandwagon out of nowhere. I am aware of what was going on from the beginning right after the very first post of charls. 

I really don't understand how it looks like I'm trying to back akiharu up in any way or hide anything for him?


How could you expect me to respond with anything to you EXCEPT hostility, based on your provoking and ignorant posts? And yes, based on your prior knowledge of anything to do with this, and your lack of presence in 2009, it DOES look like you're trying to hop on the bandwagon to use it as an excuse to express your hatred of me.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on May 28, 2012, 01:36:36 pm
Ignore donald, retards gonna retard. Half these guys are just looking for an excuse to get upset.

Anyway the one I found a bit confusing is that Hazz said none of the ulk members knew about aki's access to vu's private forums while Seph is saying they did. I normally trust both these guys so notsurewhattothink.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 01:42:15 pm
Anyway the one I found a bit confusing is that Hazz said none of the ulk members knew about aki's access to vu's private forums while Seph is saying they did. I normally trust both these guys so notsurewhattothink.

You mean that the other way around right?

I recently found out that a couple members did know about it and didn't take any action. Like I said, I'm done trying to defend anything because we have no valid points left in this argument
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2012, 01:48:10 pm
I recently found out that a couple members did know about it and didn't take any action.

That's pretty shameful  :-X
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
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Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 28, 2012, 02:31:45 pm
What i like to see now is how ULK will get itself out of this disqusting position.

wait and watch...

ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

The point is, how are they going to do it. Akiharu "owns" everything. There is no one on their forums that can change his membergroup or kick him. So the only way Akiharu can be kicked is by leaving himself.
I highly doubt that's going to happen..

You mean he owns both the domain and hosting? In that case, it's more of his forum than ULK's :P
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 28, 2012, 02:36:03 pm

ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.


Indeed...this fact about ULK has always been in a part of my mind and i guess it will always be
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 02:37:29 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 28, 2012, 02:41:42 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment










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Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 02:44:09 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment










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I agree with your personal text.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 28, 2012, 02:45:25 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment

Ignorant? ***** please...

....Glad to see you're still an impulsive dumbass
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 02:49:47 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment

Ignorant? ***** please...

....Glad to see you're still an impulsive dumbass

Do you even know what impulsive means?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 28, 2012, 03:02:43 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment

Ignorant? ***** please...

....Glad to see you're still an impulsive dumbass

Do you even know what impulsive means?

Moving? (as an adjective)
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 03:03:29 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment

Ignorant? ***** please...

....Glad to see you're still an impulsive dumbass

Do you even know what impulsive means?

Moving? (as an adjective)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 28, 2012, 03:09:44 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Look who's accusing other people for acting like impulsive assholes.
It would be nicer if we stopped flaming each other and stayed on topic. mkay..?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 03:10:20 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Look who's accusing other people for acting like impulsive assholes.
It would be nicer if we stopped flaming each other and stayed on topic. mkay..?

Look, another guy who doesn't know the meaning of impulsive.


but yeah i agree, let's get back on topic
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on May 28, 2012, 03:18:17 pm
ULK will just continue smoking weed and not giving a fuck.

this is a bit of an ignorant comment

Ignorant? ***** please...

....Glad to see you're still an impulsive dumbass

Do you even know what impulsive means?

Moving? (as an adjective)

...

If you dumbasses don't understand what's being said why comment...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on May 28, 2012, 03:20:50 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Look who's accusing other people for acting like impulsive assholes.
It would be nicer if we stopped flaming each other and stayed on topic. mkay..?

Look, another guy who doesn't know the meaning of impulsive.

An impulsive behavior is when a person does certain actions with out decently thinking them trough.
An example would be you bursting in laughter about something stupid and irrelevant, thus making yourself look like a complete asshole in the eyes of anyone else that reads your comment.  Just sayin'.

But yeah, let's go on topic.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 03:49:04 pm
An impulsive behavior is when a person does certain actions with out decently thinking them trough.
An example would be you bursting in laughter about something stupid and irrelevant, thus making yourself look like a complete asshole in the eyes of anyone else that reads your comment.  Just sayin'.

Here's the thing though; I don't care what is seen through the eyes of anyone else who reads my comment  O0 Just sayin'
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
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Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kevinsito on May 28, 2012, 05:50:35 pm
god knows where head is atm...

At jail! teaching to all these criminals how to play VCMP LOL.

Back to the topic, why would you guys even care about ULK decisions or matters anyway? as we have our way to fix issues, you may have your own way to find solutions to different problems OF YOUR OWN. I really laughed my fucking ass off when I read various people commenting at this mistake, where rather other people would actually have someone else's password and so we are in the same position, I'm not saying that everyone is a curious as others and anyone have a way to think, I simply don't care what yours is nor your opinion about the matter, so please don't quote me back to insult me.

I might write more about but first my bath and shower are calling me to think more about what to write and not damage people with my comments, which is pretty much what I am trying to avoid here, however I'm pretty much disappointed at a few people here that I never really expected them to express themselves like that just for hatred, personal dislike or simply or have a laugh at someone words.

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Yea indeed is ULK issue, people feels like if insulting is something important, or make fun of it, it is like if I make fun of DZ almost dead or MK having problems or either when VU lost against TLK 11-0 long time ago, such kind of problems just show something like a not social way to manage things. By making fun of someone being caught hacking or doing watheverthefuckitiswrong is not a solution.

I don't know wherther Charley dislikes Akiharu so much and viceversa , if it is truth or not I don't care, those are your thoughts and/or feelings, however making this generated a big scandal and if this achieved some kind of goal into your goal list it is certainly your problem, as I pointed out ULK might solve this as it own way. Other gang members insulting and making fun saying stuff like "Akiharu is gay for doing that", "He is a dick for doing so", "Worse than Ray" doesn't surprise us as they all were expecting something of this magnitude or even more happens.

10 Pages of this just made me laugh and made me think how much you guys pay attention to us, no matter the situation haha. To finsh my "large" post. I didn't want to write this but still good enough for myself posting how I feel after seeing lots of people comments, we will meet again in a large post.


Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on May 28, 2012, 07:21:00 pm
Now, you's all bitches shut up. This is a mutual problem, as we see it, and it can't be solved in any other way than cooperation and sharing intelligence.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 28, 2012, 07:32:49 pm
sharing intelligence.
We've heard that before :P


Anyways, yeh. Let's just stop moaning about it. ULK will handle this thing. That's what I hope at least. They just gotta kick him and live on. This is about Akiharu remember, not ULK.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 28, 2012, 08:17:27 pm
This is about Akiharu remember, not ULK.


Probably the most intelligent comment in this topic
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
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Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Zeke on May 28, 2012, 10:06:41 pm
lol.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Dead_Man on May 28, 2012, 10:20:07 pm
Yea indeed is ULK issue, people feels like if insulting is something important, or make fun of it, it is like if I make fun of DZ almost dead or MK having problems or either when VU lost against TLK 11-0 long time ago..
IF?!... you already did.
You are now sleeping in the sheets you made.
plus yes, we have nothing to do with ULKs way of solving this, but its on our right to discuss and even talk about w/e we want about anyone... so ye, everyones opinion is that you should kick akiharu out of the clan, you don't have to do so, but don't expect to gain respect by not doing it.

Butt-hurt much?

10 Pages of this just made me laugh and made me think how much you guys pay attention to us, no matter the situation haha.
yes we do pay attention to you, as ULK was the main reason of why the game we loved so much as became the most boring and unfun thing in the world... so, why would we not give attention?





Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
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Probably the most intelligent comment in this topic.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 29, 2012, 12:01:40 am
I'm going to reply as politely as possible as I don't wish to extend all this drama even more, if anything below seems hostile then, I can only say that wasn't my intention.

10 Pages of this just made me laugh and made me think how much you guys pay attention to us, no matter the situation haha.
Well Kevin that didn't make much sense. You see, if any other member of this community was caught stealing passwords/viewing private forums, that person being an ULK member or not, it would still get everyone's attention. What I'm saying is that yes, it caught our attention of course it did, but don't you think it would get our attention anyways if it was somebody else? Of course it would.

And Yea you are right about this:
By making fun of someone being caught hacking or doing watheverthefuckitiswrong is not a solution.
But you make it sound like he is the victim, as in: poor guy someone's making fun of him because he got caught stealing passwords /viewing private forums. There's consequences for those actions and being made fun of is actually not much of a big consequence/punishment, in fact that's a very very light punishement, if it can be called a punishment at all.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 29, 2012, 12:41:45 am
I'm going to reply as politely as possible as I don't wish to extend all this drama even more, if anything below seems hostile then, I can only say that wasn't my intention.

10 Pages of this just made me laugh and made me think how much you guys pay attention to us, no matter the situation haha.
Well Kevin that didn't made much sense. You see, if any other member of this community was caught stealing passwords/viewing private forums, that person being an ULK member or not, it would still get everyone's attention. What I'm saying is that yes, it caught our attention of course it did, but don't you think it would get our attention anyways if it was somebody else? Of course it would.

And Yea you are right about this:
By making fun of someone being caught hacking or doing watheverthefuckitiswrong is not a solution.
But you make it sound like he is the victim, as in: poor guy someone's making fun of him because he got caught stealing passwords /viewing private forums. There's consequences for those actions and being made fun of is actually not much of a big consequence/punishment, in fact that's a very very light punishement, if it can be called a punishment at all.

Indeed, if anyone actually cared enough, the authorities could be involved.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 29, 2012, 01:33:03 am
Yea indeed is ULK issue, people feels like if insulting is something important, or make fun of it, it is like if I make fun of DZ almost dead or MK having problems or either when VU lost against TLK 11-0 long time ago, such kind of problems just show something like a not social way to manage things. By making fun of someone being caught hacking or doing watheverthefuckitiswrong is not a solution.
First of all its not just ULK issue, your beloved Clan member Akiharu ( also portrayed as ULK clan leader) has done shit similar to Ray, and has access to the passwords of users of VU forums, which includes almost whole of VCMP community.

And its much expected and obvious that ULK will face criticism from everyone around ( though actually it isnt from everyone) when some member like Akiharu does some shit like this.
Regarding making fun of the person, what do you expect us to do? cut Akiharu's lawns or wash his feet?
Of course we will criticize "him" and make fun of him that how kiddish and stupid he acted in past days.

I don't know wherther Charley dislikes Akiharu so much and viceversa , if it is truth or not I don't care, those are your thoughts and/or feelings, however making this generated a big scandal and if this achieved some kind of goal into your goal list it is certainly your problem, as I pointed out ULK might solve this as it own way. Other gang members insulting and making fun saying stuff like "Akiharu is gay for doing that", "He is a dick for doing so", "Worse than Ray" doesn't surprise us as they all were expecting something of this magnitude or even more happens.
you still doubt that Akiharu will be liked or not after what he did? oh cmon kid, in what world are you living?

and about making it a scandal, dude we didnt make it, you beloved Akiharu did something big here, getting access to passwords of users and also private forums of other clan isnt something small and regarding ULK dealing it their own way, well we have already seen what ULK has done till now to Akiharu.

And about your expectations regarding the abuses to Akiharu...dude what happened to Akiharu is pretty obvious to have happened, its not something different or special that you expected and if this doesnt surprise you why is it hurting you now?

10 Pages of this just made me laugh and made me think how much you guys pay attention to us, no matter the situation haha. To finsh my "large" post. I didn't want to write this but still good enough for myself posting how I feel after seeing lots of people comments, we will meet again in a large post.
Bullshit. (like foxtrot says )




Its a request, dont come here and dig graves and provoke flame wars, the matter was almost solved and then you come here and tried to act smartass, though your bigass post is just plain nonsense.


Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kevinsito on May 29, 2012, 03:07:20 am
Ah? I didn't mean to offend :( but you have done it to me. So what do I do? stay away from this issue :) instead of fighting.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: shakejunt on May 29, 2012, 03:10:41 am
Do you guys ever think you care TOO much about vcmp?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: NewK on May 29, 2012, 03:22:48 am
Ah? I didn't mean to offend :( but you have done it to me. So what do I do? stay away from this issue :) instead of fighting.
Well I tried my best not to sound hostile, if you can tell me where in my post I offended you, I'd like to know. I simply addressed the points you brought up, politely and without flaming anyone. I don't know what to do anymore so that people don't take my posts as attacks.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kevinsito on May 29, 2012, 03:48:57 am
No you didn't offend me.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 29, 2012, 05:15:36 am
Ah? I didn't mean to offend :( but you have done it to me. So what do I do? stay away from this issue :) instead of fighting.


No you didn't offend me.



Stop misleading people with your own stupidity. Thanks.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 29, 2012, 05:50:20 am
kevinsito, all you do is take bin laden's part and try to defend him after the 9/11. What you are doing is ridiculous and unnecessary. Also, your posts contradict each other (as seph pointed it out) which makes me think you have no idea what is going on around here and you just want to draw some attention. Please, get your facts straight and unless you know who is guilty and who isn't then stop posting crap.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kevinsito on May 29, 2012, 06:15:22 am
lol should've not posted anything, dunno I was to impulsive when I wrote that, anyway I might go away since you don't want my opinion.

Ah? I didn't mean to offend :( but you have done it to me. So what do I do? stay away from this issue :) instead of fighting.
No you didn't offend me.
Stop misleading people with your own stupidity. Thanks.

<Omitted to prevent problems.>.

o/
/me walks away
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on May 29, 2012, 09:58:38 am
10 Pages of this just made me laugh and made me think how much you guys pay attention to us, no matter the situation haha.

Don't you see coming here and saying things like this perpetuates the view that ULK are arrogant arseholes? The fact that you take an ego-boost out of one of your members being caught stealing 100s of passwords shows your true colours once again, Kevin. The reason that people pay attention to you is because you put their in-game experience in jeopardy; be it by unfair bans or purposefully skewing the balance to favour yourselves. It really shouldn't be taken as a compliment, people pay attention to you how America pays attention to Al-Qaeda (Well, not quite, but same general principle).

Anyway, to the rest of ULK who take issue with the comment "it's just ULK being ULK", if you do not kick Akiharu out of your clan then you are in some ways vindicating his actions and confirming this statement as true. If you feel it acceptable to have such a person in your ranks, high up in them in fact, then you are showing that indeed, it is just ULK being ULK.

As far as I can see Akiharu has been in receipt of no punitive action whatsoever. He is still manager of XE, he is still a ULK.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 29, 2012, 03:19:54 pm
As far as I can see Akiharu has been in receipt of no punitive action whatsoever. He is still manager of XE, he is still a ULK.

And the sad truth is; that won't change. Nobody not enough people care/are active in private discussions enough to want to kick him out of either of those things.

Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Maverick on May 29, 2012, 04:13:56 pm
Do you guys ever think you care TOO much about vcmp?

lol true.

But all we want to do in VCMP / XE is to play w/o anybody ruining the sanity of the game.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 29, 2012, 05:30:14 pm
ULK must take action against akiharu. They won‘t? They don‘t care? Then his bad reputation will spread to his clan mates for not taking care of this very important matter. Or the active members will leave the clan immediately proving they do care but they can‘t do anything but to leave. This is for all the ulks out there


edit: I know this ain‘t my business or anyone‘s but I don‘t give a fuck if you think this way given the fact that he affected the community and no one in his clan can‘t take actions against him. Do whatever you want to do but don‘t get butthurt about us talking about this.k
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Ajeet on May 30, 2012, 06:05:34 am
ULK must take action against akiharu. They won‘t? They don‘t care? Then his bad reputation will spread to his clan mates for not taking care of this very important matter. Or the active members will leave the clan immediately proving they do care but they can‘t do anything but to leave. This is for all the ulks out there


edit: I know this ain‘t my business or anyone‘s but I don‘t give a fuck if you think this way given the fact that he affected the community and no one in his clan can‘t take actions against him. Do whatever you want to do but don‘t get butthurt about us talking about this.k


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Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 30, 2012, 08:52:46 am
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P.S.: dont like images taking over all the posts :D
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 30, 2012, 09:50:50 am
ULK must take action against akiharu. They won‘t? They don‘t care? Then his bad reputation will spread to his clan mates for not taking care of this very important matter. Or the active members will leave the clan immediately proving they do care but they can‘t do anything but to leave. This is for all the ulks out there


edit: I know this ain‘t my business or anyone‘s but I don‘t give a fuck if you think this way given the fact that he affected the community and no one in his clan can‘t take actions against him. Do whatever you want to do but don‘t get butthurt about us talking about this.k
**
Are you serious? Why so serious? BECAUSE IT IS FUCKING SERIOUS. This ain't something small that can just be forgotten. Something has to happen at ULK, and it has to be done right now.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Windlord on May 30, 2012, 01:04:07 pm
I don't know why some people don't get this:


A severe crime was carried out by a member of ULK and owner of XE, named akiharu.


It's as simple as that.

IRL you don't get second chances until you have served your sentence.
IRL you don't get all jovial and make kids with your raper.

Get some sense in your thick heads.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 30, 2012, 01:58:55 pm
Just wondering, did you guys read Aki's reply at XE topic ? :P
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on May 30, 2012, 02:42:11 pm
Just wondering, did you guys read Aki's reply at XE topic ? :P
I did and he's right. I hate to keep his method secret, so im gonna say fuck it and tell you all anyways.

What he did, and what makes him different to someone who hacks or Ray, is make a login page that looks like ours.
So, He abused our/Kontrium's trust in him giving the right URL and let Kontrium login at that page instead of our forums. The script behind the page logs whats being used as login details to a text file and thats how the got them.
He did not touch our forums, nor used any other forums to gain the login details.
The term that explains this method is called Phishing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing). So I do not want to hear any more terms like Hacking in this thread.
Thank you.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 30, 2012, 02:49:40 pm
Lol, interesting.... Just like the shit they do on YouTube with all the free paypal hacks and shit.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on May 30, 2012, 04:17:36 pm
Lol, interesting.... Just like the shit they do on YouTube with all the free paypal hacks and shit.
His method actually made me lol hard, usually no lifer or stupid kids do this on social networking sites these days :P

Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 30, 2012, 04:47:19 pm
I don't know why some people don't get this:


A severe crime was carried out by a member of ULK and owner of XE, named akiharu.


It's as simple as that.

IRL you don't get second chances until you have served your sentence.
IRL you don't get all jovial and make kids with your raper.

Get some sense in your thick heads.

Yes but there are retards that don‘t understand what the fuck is really happening and they feel they got something to say but they are retarded, like i said, and they choose the easy way : to post a picture. You can‘t ask them to use their brains :(
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on May 30, 2012, 04:47:55 pm
^   +1
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on May 30, 2012, 07:00:46 pm
I don't know why some people don't get this:


A severe crime was carried out by a member of ULK and owner of XE, named akiharu.


It's as simple as that.

IRL you don't get second chances until you have served your sentence.
IRL you don't get all jovial and make kids with your raper.

Get some sense in your thick heads.

Yes but there are retards that don‘t understand what the fuck is really happening and they feel they got something to say but they are retarded, like i said, and they choose the easy way : to post a picture. You can‘t ask them to use their brains :(

I agree
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on May 31, 2012, 02:22:29 am
He's trying to talk his way out of it now and make it look like all he did was use Kontrium's account  :thumbsdown:.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on May 31, 2012, 04:03:32 am
He's trying to talk his way out of it now and make it look like all he did was use Kontrium's account  :thumbsdown:.

That‘s why “i‘m so serious“
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Crossfire|OutlawZ on May 31, 2012, 08:40:39 am
so he "fished" out Kontrium's account password? GETIT? phished out? AHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on May 31, 2012, 10:19:29 am
so he "fished" out Kontrium's account password? GETIT? phished out? AHAHAHAHAH

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 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on June 01, 2012, 10:23:54 am

.. if you do not kick Akiharu out of your clan then you are in some ways vindicating his actions and confirming this statement as true ..


Thinking you're in a position to even suggest anything to us is arrogance as well ;p

Aki has been slaving for ULK since we came to VCMP. He's given us the forums, he's given us the site, he's given us a server (two). Maybe in the process he's deluded himself into thinking he's got more power than any other ULK, and it's understandable you share the delusion. If he's worked for a power grab all this time, he's worked for nothing.

Any ULK defending aki here is out of touch with reality as well. As I said, I knew what was going on, I didn't give a shit, and I still don't. Ya'll got fucked, and I understand that it's a terrible tragedy and an insult to you. I'm not trying to say what he did was right and moreover it's fucking pathetic he's trying to rhetoric his way out of this.

To be frank the further this angry discussion goes, his weaseling is the thing that annoys me personally most about all this.

The fact is ULK does not respond well to outsiders trying to  tell us what to do, and naturally any attempt by you trying to pressure us results in an aggressive response. And I'm pretty sure in the end if we weigh aki's work for ULK vs your poor security habits, the vote for kicking him will not pass. It might, since his weaseling is working against him as well, but I wouldn't bet on it ;D

The point is, we can take care of our own affairs. You should learn your place and keep out of it.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Windlord on June 01, 2012, 10:32:02 am
You dont know what you're talking about.

VU's forum had no vulnerability. Akiharu abused trust put on him as the previous host and acquired a few credentials in an illegal manner.

ULK is part of this whole ordeal due to idiots like you turning a blind eye to blatant criminal activities being carried out. Protecting akiharu in such an irrational manner would be accepting your part in said criminal activities.

Understood?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on June 01, 2012, 10:45:30 am
You'll need to re-read my post.

I'm not protecting him. He stole the passwords, I believe that much is established. And I believe he should take the responsibility for his actions.

And while it's true legal theory does have a few instances where inaction could be considered a crime in itself, this is not one of them, sorry ;p. He acted of his own volition and will. We didn't ask him to get anything (well Sephiroth did for LW's, but as far as I know he's the only exception), nor did we help him in any way. And prior to this whole drama we (at lease me) had no idea about his methods.

So if you're so intent on arguing real life mechanics into this crime, you should do your homework. You can include the rest of us by your own morality, but not by real life legal theory.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Windlord on June 01, 2012, 11:04:10 am
I don't remember mentioning any specific laws, do you? My only remote reference to any possible real-life laws was in declaring akiharu's actions to be illegal.

Despite your criticisms against akiharu, you fail to hide some of the brainwashing you've received, not limited to thinking that some fault lies in VU and Kontrium, as well as the fact that akiharu's petty contributions to ULK matter to anyone here.

Morality is the main standard and you're only displaying yourself and your clan in an increasingly bad light. If you think you can justify being a bystander, by all means do. You'll merely leave a bad taste in many VCMP players' mouths. Perhaps that means nothing to you, perhaps it does.

Edit: It's rather pathetic how the dealings of aki+ULK are becoming obsessed towards proving the inapplicability of real-life laws as well as pushing blame on the afflicted.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Bass on June 01, 2012, 11:14:45 am
I didn't like XE anyways.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: FaF on June 01, 2012, 11:16:05 am
I wish windlord good luck in trying to make the deaf listen to the cool music  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: biohazard on June 01, 2012, 11:31:30 am
Oh no, you brought in the "IRL" guns here on the previous page of this thread, I hadn't referred to any of it beforehand. You're mistaking me for aki, who's referring to actual laws on the XE threads and I believe that to be equally pathetic.

The brainwashing? My thoughts are my own. I have not spoken to akiharu about this issue. I take very few people seriously enough to let them influence me, and Akiharu is not one of them. I am well aware most of the words he says is for effect only, rhetoric and manipulations.

Anyways I didn't bring up akiharu's contributions to ULK because they'd matter to anyone outside ULK. You need to apply your brain a bit, as Foxtrot suggested, and read my posts again. I brought it up because his contributions matter to ULK, and they will most certainly be taken into account when we're weighing his fate. I brought those contributions up in the process of trying to explain to you that we take care of our matters ourself and you guys believing you are in a position to pressure us in our internal matters is futile. I thought this much was obvious. I do hate repeating myself.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Windlord on June 01, 2012, 11:48:31 am
Yes, I did forget about my 'IRL' post. (I was traveling and stuff, not that it matters.)
In that light, some of my criticism was ill-targeted.

I did understand what you were saying though and the 'brainwashing' I was referring to, you haven't responded to. Which clearly means you have nothing to say against them. To believe any blame lies on VU's side is being biased, in this case.

The akiharu contribution bit was mentioned to explain the difficulty of akiharu receiving disciplinary action, yes. However you are mentioning it because you feel it compares and possibly balances out. The morality in that comparison is highly questionable and anyone has the right to question that.

You also repeatedly say that no one can demand ULK to punish akiharu. This makes it seem like ULK is being a judge for the crime and that makes no sense. Disregarding aki's membership of ULK and leadership of XE being tied in with the ULK clan, VU members have the right to demand action, as the afflicted.

Also may I mention that we wouldn't have this discussion if akiharu simply accepted his crime and resigned from the various posts which he now does not deserve.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Sephiroth on June 01, 2012, 05:14:33 pm
I didn't like XE anyways.

How is this post relevant in any way, shape, or form?
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on June 01, 2012, 05:24:38 pm
Seeing how some of the ULK members talk in this topic, I'm starting to think they are related to what Akiharu did...

Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on June 01, 2012, 05:27:38 pm
I didn't like XE anyways.

How is this post relevant in any way, shape, or form?

We are boycotting XE as a protest against Aki. None ordered or suggested this, simply none (or little) of us seem to play it anymore because of principle :-X
It's the least we can do to display our dissatisfaction with the management.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Bass on June 01, 2012, 06:18:42 pm
@ Sephiroth:

Quote from Cutton:
"I resign from XE, as does Thijn and jUan. I haven't spoken to others yet, but I'd imagine the rest of VU will resign too. I would not want to help in a server ran by Ray, so why would I help in a server ran by aki?"

You should read the first post again sephiroth.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on June 03, 2012, 10:42:11 am

.. if you do not kick Akiharu out of your clan then you are in some ways vindicating his actions and confirming this statement as true ..


Thinking you're in a position to even suggest anything to us is arrogance as well ;p

I don't quite see how putting forward basic logic could be seen as arrogant... but whatever.

The fact is ULK does not respond well to outsiders trying to  tell us what to do, and naturally any attempt by you trying to pressure us results in an aggressive response.

The point is, we can take care of our own affairs. You should learn your place and keep out of it.


you guys believing you are in a position to pressure us in our internal matters is futile.

So what, are we meant to just keep quiet and not share any opinions on the matter? Have you never heard of open criticism or diplomacy? We discuss these matters just as any media would an organisation that's done bad. If the media didn't openly expose and pressure wrong-doing individuals in organisations then the status quo would not likely by affected and those individuals would go unaccounted for. Use your brain, this is just natural criticism, speculation and pressure that would occur in exactly the same way had the case been the other way around. You can't honestly tell me that had one of our gang stolen a bunch of passwords from your site that we wouldn't have a tirade of abuse and pseudo-orders from some of your members. Knowing some of your members (Bishop) it would have been brought up in every single conversation, not matter how irrelevant, for a good few years.

You personally might be in a position where you know the facts and feel you can make a judgement by yourself, but there are others who don't. If we hadn't kept at this, Akiharu would have lied his way out and you and your gang would have been none the wiser.

Our influence lies in the fact that we believe gangs should care a modicum about their relations with other gangs. We are too small a mod to not care about such things. Again, you, personally, might not care about your relations with others but there are sure as hell a bunch of guys in your gang who do.


And I'm pretty sure in the end if we weigh aki's work for ULK vs your poor security habits, the vote for kicking him will not pass.

There was nothing wrong with our 'security habits', for what he did there is no protection against.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on June 03, 2012, 12:10:35 pm
Well he said sorry so it's all good...

As Charley said if the roles were reversed and it was Thijn making an identical ULK login page (which by the way has no bearing on a websites security...) and logging account pw's and taking private information I can imagine quite a few ULK members would be upset. What course of action would you take? Firstly he'd be banned from ULK's forums, most likely have his XE administrator status taken (and probably banned) and he certainly wouldn't be in VU any more or have any part in their servers.

So has any of this happened with Akiharu? No, instead he's squirming around as if he's gotten away with some great heist and it looks pretty clear the only thing he's sorry about is being caught out. The fact that it seems a bunch of ULK members knew he had access to VU's forums doesn't help the cause since any action taken would be perceived as hypocritical on their part but doing nothing looks even worse from the outside.

Get rid of him, it might amaze you but we really don't care about his contributions to ULK after what he's done. VCMP will survive without him.

And before a swarm of ULK's come in here calling me buttmad and hater or something I didn't have a problem until he started trying to talk his way out of it and deceive others over what he actually did.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: UlrichZuko on June 03, 2012, 01:16:02 pm
Hey when i allegedly hacked when i was in ULK, nobody was "dealing" or "discussing" with my situation, I left before i knew i would be kicked for sure.

And this quote from biohazard:
Quote
And I'm pretty sure in the end if we weigh aki's work for ULK vs your poor security habits, the vote for kicking him will not pass.

Reveals that they are not going to do anything about him after all.

I see a future with TLK.ex_hackerNub in it.

Now attack me as you see fit...oh you probably will say "you're not worth responding to, bla bla bla".
corrupt little children.
<omitted>.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Olo on June 05, 2012, 06:06:21 pm
O_O

The worst is that he really seemed to be reliable. I chated and joking with him getting him as a normal player without any mask or other shit.

PAINTED FOX!
 

I, errrrr, have come to a smart conclusion. Fuckingly succesful decission when I decided to leave ULK. No offence to its members (who, although they treat me like everyone sees, arent passes thiefts) with the exception of Aki.



Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Abdula001 on June 06, 2012, 03:47:38 am
Meeen i come back to VC MP after 2 years.leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.must realize that maybe they are more idiots.in that clan but u cant say all.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on June 06, 2012, 10:35:13 am
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: GRAND on June 06, 2012, 12:58:24 pm
Meeen i come back to VC MP after 2 years.

2 years?! Meeens I saw u last time in 2006/7 DD:
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: morphine on June 06, 2012, 01:50:31 pm
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.

It's your ego that makes it so hard to understand, rather than the bad language itself. :P
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Squida on June 06, 2012, 02:37:10 pm
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.

It's your ego that makes it so hard to understand, rather than the bad language itself. :P

no...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: morphine on June 06, 2012, 02:42:48 pm
Well I understood it just fine. :c
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: kyber7 on June 06, 2012, 03:45:16 pm
Well, I don't.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Foxtrot on June 06, 2012, 04:12:05 pm
Well fuck you then CAUSE I DO HHH
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Abdula001 on June 06, 2012, 07:01:37 pm
Hahaha sorry.my english is fucked up i only wanted to say that i know him very long and  he changed when he got the admin rights and joined ulk i thought he was a nice person but he changed that was i wanted to say and grand i joined vc mp 2008 may lol not 2006 2007 xD
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: buda on June 06, 2012, 08:19:45 pm
in my humble opinion locking this would be the better thing we could do, this is one of the most viewed/replied thread on this forum already,  lets stop giving them more importance than the importance they really deserve
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on June 07, 2012, 01:24:56 pm
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.

It's your ego that makes it so hard to understand, rather than the bad language itself. :P
My ego? Go fuck a duck...
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: morphine on June 07, 2012, 01:54:10 pm
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.

It's your ego that makes it so hard to understand, rather than the bad language itself. :P
My ego? Go fuck a duck...

You can't really expect perfect English from everyone here, that's all that I was trying to get across.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Thijn on June 07, 2012, 02:03:31 pm
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.

It's your ego that makes it so hard to understand, rather than the bad language itself. :P
My ego? Go fuck a duck...

You can't really expect perfect English from everyone here, that's all that I was trying to get across.
In that case, Have a cookie :]
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Skirmant on June 07, 2012, 04:53:20 pm
in my humble opinion locking this would be the better thing we could do, this is one of the most viewed/replied thread on this forum already,  lets stop giving them more importance than the importance they really deserve

This forum? More like the entire VCMP community.
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: ferrari32 on June 07, 2012, 05:05:40 pm
leaving and akiharu do shit like that i know himj before he joined any clhidan back than in 2008 this is a shame he changed too after he got full access to xe and got into ulk i see he changed alost got arrogance think ulk is best clan in world ppl changing poor im dissapointed in you thought u were a good guy btw i dunno if has bad mebers or not but i wouldnt say that the whole clan is shit becouse of 1 person you.
That's the longest sentence I've seen. And it was fuck hard to understand.

It's your ego that makes it so hard to understand, rather than the bad language itself. :P
My ego? Go fuck a duck...

You can't really expect perfect English from everyone here, that's all that I was trying to get across.
In that case, Have a cookie :]
I'll have 2  :)
Title: Re: ULK.Akiharu, worse than Ray?
Post by: Charley on June 07, 2012, 05:06:32 pm
K, locked.

To summarise:

Akiharu's a no good two faced lying son of a bitch.