[17:55:31] <S3vrin> guide me about m4 skills
[17:55:39] <S3vrin> I still can't kill some players
[17:55:43] <S3vrin> I used to be
[17:55:50] <S3vrin> your m4 skills are damn cool
[17:56:01] <S3vrin> I'm also part of you guys(I guess)
[17:56:13] <S3vrin> so can you tell me/advice me about m4 skills?
[17:58:58] <slow> low sensitivity, low vertical sensitivity, good gaming mouse, big gaming mousepad
[17:59:12] <S3vrin> low sens = yes
[17:59:17] <S3vrin> low vertical sens?
[17:59:21] <S3vrin> goood gaming mosue=yes
[17:59:26] <S3vrin> big gaming mousepad=yes
[17:59:56] <S3vrin> [17:29:21] <S3vrin> low vertical sens? ?
[18:00:13] <slow> i mean y-sens
[18:00:21] <S3vrin> How to low it
[18:00:38] <S3vrin> y axis sens right?, I heard about it but how to low it
[18:01:58] <slow> y sxis sens right, you can to use other programs
[18:02:03] <slow> axis*
[18:03:21] <S3vrin> Tell me how to
[18:03:25] <S3vrin> low y axis sens
[18:05:54] <S3vrin> i can't find it
[18:14:53] <S3vrin> back
[18:14:58] <S3vrin> say again what you said last
[18:16:13] <slow> about program y-sens, later i can give you link
[18:16:30] <S3vrin> can you now, vw6 is near so i get used to it?
[18:17:41] <slow> don't worry about VW6 we will win :D
[18:17:55] <S3vrin> you guys didn't applied yet :(
[18:18:07] <S3vrin> I want to be in top ratios, I'm confident this time taht I won't fuck up anything
[18:18:27] <S3vrin> those VUs & other clans made enough fun of me, even it was retardness not fun. I'll show them now the ture power of a team
[18:18:31] <S3vrin> true*
[18:18:41] <S3vrin> They cheated in CTF
[18:18:54] <S3vrin> Or else, we didn't let them win more than 1 base
[18:19:05] <S3vrin> well
[18:19:06] <S3vrin> You know what
[18:19:33] <S3vrin> In beta test vw6, last sunday. I was the top killer, 100 kills, I played totally alone in server, only 1 cuban against 12-15 haitians
[18:19:43] <S3vrin> Still my ratio was 1.06(not good but enough)
[18:20:21] <S3vrin> Im a guy of reality, I believe on it & I'm always honest & speak the truth, no matter what
[18:20:42] <S3vrin> And currently my aim, is to stick with TRC & WK till I'm playing this game
[18:21:37] <S3vrin> And slow, seriously, I never saw honest, team working, most united players like you(WK) and TRC
[18:21:59] <slow> ok i understood
[18:22:03] <S3vrin> I'll soon unban kakarot from EC
[18:22:08] <slow> later i can give linke to you
[18:22:13] <S3vrin> okay cool
[18:22:19] <S3vrin> Im here, got BNC set :D
[18:39:44] <slow> [OMITED LINK]
[18:39:56] <slow> are you here
[18:41:03] <slow> fix mouse [OMITED LINK]
[18:41:37] <S3vrin> back
[18:41:38] <S3vrin> yea?
[18:41:49] <S3vrin> wait lemme wear jacket fucking cold
[18:42:07] <S3vrin> ok back
[18:42:33] <slow> <slow> fix mouse [OMITED LINK]
[18:42:33] <slow> <S3vrin> back
[18:42:34] <S3vrin> which link is mouse fix
[18:42:39] <slow> download this
[18:42:39] <S3vrin> ok
[18:42:57] <S3vrin> downloaded
[18:43:24] <S3vrin> now?
[18:43:28] <slow> and will drop this files in game folder \data\cfg
[18:43:52] <slow> and then will join in game
[18:44:15] <S3vrin> there is data folder
[18:44:18] <S3vrin> but no cfg
[18:44:46] <slow> create
[18:45:14] <S3vrin> done
[18:45:15] <S3vrin> now?
[18:45:33] <slow> will join in game
[18:45:38] <slow> any server
[18:45:50] <slow> and live
[18:45:54] <slow> leave
[18:45:55] <S3vrin> you will come too?
[18:45:58] <S3vrin> ok
[18:45:58] <slow> :D
[18:46:09] <slow> my english is very high
[18:46:29] <S3vrin> no its fine
[18:46:38] <S3vrin> ok i joined ec & left
[18:46:42] <S3vrin> now ? xD
[18:46:42] <slow> ok
[18:47:11] <slow> MouseSet will open this fail
[18:47:14] <slow> file
[18:47:22] <slow> [vcmouse]
[18:47:22] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[18:47:22] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[18:47:22] <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[18:47:25] <slow> my settings
[18:47:30] <S3vrin> where?
[18:47:45] <S3vrin> what is [OMITED SETTING] lol
[18:47:46] <slow> \Grand Theft Auto Vice City\data\cfg
[18:48:08] <S3vrin> im in cfg
[18:48:40] <S3vrin> aight does anyone else knows about it?
[18:48:49] <S3vrin> ujibu4?
[18:49:10] <slow> this is just fix mouse sens
[18:49:30] <S3vrin> send me your file settings
[18:49:43] <S3vrin> so i dont need to do it as im too noob in these stuff
[18:50:09] <slow> afk
[18:50:15] <S3vrin> ok
[18:50:21] <S3vrin> tell me when you're back
[20:03:22] <S3vrin> free?
[20:57:18] <S3vrin> there
[20:57:21] <S3vrin> im online for you
[20:57:23] <S3vrin> :P
[20:57:36] <slow> i know
[20:57:42] <slow> i will go to gym now
[20:57:45] <slow> later man later
[20:58:23] <S3vrin> whenever you're free tomorrow?
[20:58:29] <slow> yes
[20:58:35] <S3vrin> when*
[20:58:45] <slow> idk
[20:58:47] <S3vrin> when you will be free tomorrw, tell me timings
[20:58:51] <S3vrin> hmm
[20:58:52] <S3vrin> okay
[20:59:01] <S3vrin> I'll try to be here after college
[20:59:02] <S3vrin> cya
[21:02:08] <S3vrin> there?
[21:02:20] <S3vrin> tell me what are your sensitivity settings
[21:02:26] <S3vrin> the y axis one
[21:03:12] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:30] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[21:03:30] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:30] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[20:59:46] <S3vrin> Hello
[20:59:46] <[TDH]Tom> 4HELLO S3vrin
[20:59:50] <[TDH]Tom> Hi
[21:00:01] <S3vrin> Do you know how to eidt y axis senstivity?
[21:00:06] <S3vrin> edit*
[21:00:10] <S3vrin> slow is busy
[21:00:10] <[TDH]Tom> Mouse drivers
[21:00:40] <S3vrin> he shared me that software, I pasted it in my gta vc folder data/cfg
[21:00:47] <S3vrin> and joined game & left
[21:00:50] <S3vrin> now what to do?
[21:00:56] <[TDH]Tom> Does it work?
[21:01:04] <S3vrin> I just pasted it
[21:01:14] <S3vrin> Now dunno if y axis sens is low or not?
[21:01:23] <S3vrin> what to do next, I want to know?
[21:01:27] <[TDH]Tom> Well, you have to check your sens then in order to make sure it works
[21:01:50] <S3vrin> ./setconfig game_senstivity 0.000175 is my real game sensitivty
[21:01:59] <S3vrin> now need to low y axis sens
[21:02:03] <S3vrin> through that asi loader
[21:02:24] <[TDH]Tom> Does it have any cfg files
[21:02:32] <S3vrin> cfg?
[21:02:52] <S3vrin> there is just scripts & a .dll file
[21:03:01] <[TDH]Tom> Then idk
[21:03:10] <S3vrin> in scripts there are different .asi files and .ini
[21:03:17] <[TDH]Tom> open ini file
[21:03:30] <[TDH]Tom> There must be a numercial values
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:17] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:03:57] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[21:04:05] <S3vrin> there are numerical values
[21:04:15] <[TDH]Tom> Adjust them according to your preferances
[21:05:43] <S3vrin> there's no such senstivity values
[21:06:27] <[TDH]Tom> copy past what 210W sent
[21:06:40] <S3vrin> lol hwere :(
[21:06:43] <S3vrin> where*
[21:06:43] <[TDH]Tom> 5*> Ask your questions
[21:06:51] <S3vrin> im dumb in it
[21:07:03] <[TDH]Tom> In ini
[21:07:45] <S3vrin> there are. [OMITED].ini, [OMITED].ini, and [OMITED].ini
[21:07:56] <S3vrin> do you got those .ini files
[21:08:00] <[TDH]Tom> No
[21:08:01] <S3vrin> upload them & send me link if you've
[21:08:04] <[TDH]Tom> I use mouse drivers
[21:08:13] <S3vrin> what are those
[21:11:55] <S3vrin> dunno what to do
[21:12:02] <S3vrin> I need to polish my m4 skills for vw6
[21:12:26] <S3vrin> Good thing is this time, I can play 15 hours
[21:12:34] <S3vrin> with some mins break
[21:12:37] <S3vrin> In beta
[21:12:41] <S3vrin> I was top killer ;P
[21:32:47] <S3vrin> tom
[21:32:47] <[TDH]Tom> 5*> Ask your questions
[21:33:00] <S3vrin> send me those slow's sensitivity settings
[21:33:07] <S3vrin> the logs i cant find
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:17] <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 1,0
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 0,32
[21:33:19] <[TDH]Tom> [18:32:41] <S3vrin> [20:33:35] <slow> <slow> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[21:33:23] <S3vrin> ty
[21:19:50] <UJIbU4> [OMITED LINK]
[21:31:31] <S3vrin> hi
[21:31:31] <UJIbU4> hi
[21:31:32] <S3vrin> thanks
[21:31:39] <S3vrin> but copy paste direct?
[21:41:04] <UJIbU4> .dll and scripts folder to gtavc.exe folder
[22:02:28] <S3vrin> ok its done
[22:02:36] <S3vrin> the senstivity on y axis
[22:02:39] <S3vrin> what it should ne
[22:02:41] <S3vrin> be*
[22:02:52] <S3vrin> good for both m4 & shotgun?
[22:19:09] <UJIbU4> I'm not using it
[22:19:25] <S3vrin> Okay
[22:19:26] <UJIbU4> try 0.1 y 1.2x
[22:19:36] <S3vrin> aight
[22:19:43] <UJIbU4> or 0.7y 1.2x
[22:19:52] <UJIbU4> or 0.07y 1.2x *
[17:11:41] <S3vrin> hi
[17:11:41] <UJIbU4> hi
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [vcmouse]
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE X AXIS] = 3,0
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [OMITED SETTING MOUSE Y AXIS] = 1,7
[17:11:43] <S3vrin> [OMITED SETTING SIGHT SENSITIVITY] = 1,0
[17:11:47] <S3vrin> these are mouse settings
[17:11:53] <S3vrin> what is [OMITED SETTING]?
[17:14:48] <S3vrin> and what values should I add
[17:14:58] <S3vrin> so shotgun & m4 both work good
[18:15:34] <UJIbU4> sight for zoom, dunno
[19:38:26] <S3vrin> ec
[19:38:31] <S3vrin> asap
[21:56:39] <S3vrin> you know about y axis senstivity changing, right?
[21:56:42] <S3vrin> uj shared me those files
[21:56:49] <HunTinG> send me what he sent you
[21:56:54] <S3vrin> e.e
[21:56:58] <S3vrin> it'll take time
[21:56:59] <HunTinG> dont say name
[21:57:02] <S3vrin> its something mouse fix
[21:57:03] <HunTinG> just send
[21:57:06] <S3vrin> [OMITED LINK]
[21:57:19] <HunTinG> yes I know
[21:57:20] <HunTinG> SS' stuff
[21:57:33] <HunTinG> it doesn't work on 64
[21:57:36] <HunTinG> so it's useless for me
[21:57:52] <S3vrin> xD
[21:58:01] <HunTinG> I don't need to change my axis
[21:58:06] <HunTinG> they're good as it is
[21:58:52] <S3vrin> i want to
[21:58:53] <S3vrin> :P
[21:58:58] <S3vrin> for m4
[21:59:00] <HunTinG> what the fuck
[21:59:05] <HunTinG> lol
[21:59:12] <HunTinG> Well,I have a gaming mouse
[21:59:25] <HunTinG> It's pointless trying to modify it
[21:59:34] <HunTinG> and besides,who is just messing with me now?
[21:59:35] <S3vrin> ok
[21:59:38] <S3vrin> i figured it out
[21:59:42] <S3vrin> fucking very slow sens
[21:59:49] <HunTinG> lol gg
[21:59:54] <HunTinG> that may even fuck your game
[22:00:00] <HunTinG> I don't know
[22:00:07] <HunTinG> I mean crashing it while play
[22:00:13] <HunTinG> i had such trouble
[22:00:23] <S3vrin> if that happen
[22:00:34] <S3vrin> I'll simply uninstall and install again
[22:00:35] <S3vrin> :P
[22:02:19] <S3vrin> damn it too low
[22:04:43] <HunTinG> brb eat
[22:04:50] <S3vrin> aightExplanation(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F8mPdhUL.png&hash=117fe479b8d0cc7e66a07ae9bf36e925b440bed9)
Hello everyone, today I'd like to make something public. Something important which I think everyone should know about. It is important for people (more importantly server staff members) to know this tool exists and it's being used and distributed. I'm talking about a tool/program that some people of this community use to give them an advantage by modifying their mouse sensitivity settings. This tool is a .dll that is injected into the game and through the use of an additional .ini file, you configure your mouse's individual X and Y axis aswell as zoom sensitivity.
Can't we just get rid of these idiots already? They'll hack in-game and then have the audacity to make memes online glorifying their "victory". Like what the actual hell lol.
@Hunting, Kakarot & UJIBU4:
I'll repeat my words: I sincerely pity your miserable, pathetic life. Must be quite hard to live with these facts, or probably you're just too dumb to realize it.
vu cant won the vw6 ok the next vw we should ban WK team yes they are hackers, hack sensitivity yes banAt least don't hack on your english lmfao
Personally i dont think this is ok but you can't control everyone's game.Indeed we can't control or detect it yet. But when we have confessions or logs like these, that's more than enough to take a decision.
Or can you?
...Hello Kyzo, I'm sorry but not much from your reply made sense to me. You might've missunderstood what I said above. The .dll file has to be loaded into the game and the .ini file is used to change the values of the x axis, y axis and zoom sensitivity. None of these 3 options are available to be changed through VC:MP or Vice City. And the zoom sensitivity was never even available on previous VC:MP versions.
what makes the file never calls to an intervention of an external software or any thing that has no relation with the game ... consequently, it is from game to game And this finaly is never counted as a cheating.I don't understand where you got this impression from. The file is not from the game it does not belong to the game and allows the user to change values otherwise not possible without this tool. It's not "simply" a .dll file, no .dll file is "simply" a .dll file, as you say it. Many of the hacks available nowadays in current games and even VC:MP are .dll files loaded into the game with configuration files to adjust their settings like the .ini files I mentioned.
The second perspective: it would be a serious injustice to these players if we take into account players with heavy equipment, I distinguish here gamers with gaming mice, who with the opportunities given to them, may indirectly have this .dll (Or .ini) file without really owning it (I note well here the drivers of these mice that from, you can really adjust a lot of things).I get what you're saying here, but here's the real difference. Mice that have these functionalities have their changes applied system-wide, and not specifically to a game, they don't change the game's behaviour. This tool changes your game's behaviour according the settings you define. Very different and important for us to make a distinction here. For instance, the setting to change the zoom sensitivity would only change the weapons' zoom sensitivity, it wouldn't change the sensitivity of your mouse's scroll wheel. While if you did use a mouse driver, you'd be able to change the sensitivity of the scroll wheel but only system-wide for all your PC's applications. In VCMP you'd have a higher sensitivity everytime you used the scroll wheel, and with the tool I described, only your zooming sensitivity would be changed. So this tool, through the .dll modifies specific game memory addresses to allow this type of usage. It's very very different from the ocasional mouse driver.
The third perspective: why can we not include this in the area of ​​the faults committed by the developers, the fact of locking this option. I find this awkward as many of us find. Really i feel a nostalgia to the previous versions in which we had the ability to play easily without any restrictions, this version really gives the game a taste of bitter . This is not an egoist opinion, ask the question to others to understand, especially the OLD SCHOOL'z.It is not a fault, it was a deliberate update from the VC:MP dev team. They didn't just make a mistake and removed it, that's not how things work, it's not like they go through the code and then all of sudden: "oops, I just mistakenly removed this feature and added a new one." Doesn't really work like this. But if you think that developers should not have removed that option, that's an entirely different thing altogether, that's your opinion and you're very free to have it. But let me quote myself here:
If your opinion is that players should be able to edit their X and Y axis that's fine, but that's not how things are at the moment. So you should act accordingly to how things are (also known as reality) and not how you think things should be.
A bold claim, but can you back it up? I posted proof for my statements, can you post proof of yours?
I can confidently say that the majority of you, even pretestants, use this kind of method...You want to make a change, start with yourself :)
First of all, I didn't knew that modifying X and Y axis sensitivity is disallowed in VC:MP.Sorry Sevrin but not knowing about it doesn't exempt you. If hackers could say "I didn't know I couldn't adjust my HP or my Armour or my weapon bullets", would you then not ban them?
Then here you go, tell me with full honesty. When I was in VU, there was a topic in private boards about lowering X ans Y axis sensitivity through Windows(which wasn't reversible) am I right or not??As I explained above, changing these types of settings through windows or mouse drivers is very different. Allow me to quote myself:
Mice that have these functionalities have their changes applied system-wide, and not specifically to a game, they don't change the game's behaviour. This tool changes your game's behaviour according the settings you define. Very different and important for us to make a distinction here. For instance, the setting to change the zoom sensitivity would only change the weapons' zoom sensitivity, it wouldn't change the sensitivity of your mouse's scroll wheel. While if you did use a mouse driver, you'd be able to change the sensitivity of the scroll wheel but only system-wide for all your PC's applications. In VCMP you'd have a higher sensitivity everytime you used the scroll wheel, and with the tool I described, only your zooming sensitivity would be changed. So this tool, through the .dll modifies specific game memory addresses to allow this type of usage.
So about youCan't we just get rid of these idiots already? They'll hack in-game and then have the audacity to make memes online glorifying their "victory". Like what the actual hell lol.
@Hunting, Kakarot & UJIBU4:
I'll repeat my words: I sincerely pity your miserable, pathetic life. Must be quite hard to live with these facts, or probably you're just too dumb to realize it.
Cryyyy VU
Hmm, There I imagine you being a sophister facing socrates in one of his dialogues in a spartan salon. You're turning in a vicious circle with all my respects .Hah, sophisters/sophists that really takes me back to my highschool years! But that's okay if this is what you think, I don't feel the need to prove myself to you so I'm not bothered at all by what your impressions of me are. I believe after nearly 10 years in this community, I've established some trust from the general playerbase, so your opinion does not worry me. (Sorry if that sounds presumptuous or hostile, but it is what it is)
P.S : printf("for more informations , please google : " sophisters approach " \n");
I will go with full honestly, I don't use it anymore because I currently play with /setconfig game_sensitivity 0.00015. Amal knows this as I told him once.Did vu provide a tool to you for that ?
There's whole clarification about lowering modifying Y and X sensitivity through windows(By axxo). Right or wrong?I will go with full honestly, I don't use it anymore because I currently play with /setconfig game_sensitivity 0.00015. Amal knows this as I told him once.Did vu provide a tool to you for that ?
We just have you 2 commands which are common these days.
If you have noticed the commands have their limits, the game sensitivity ratio can not go below 0.500000, so you use another file to do so and say u didn't knew if it was disallowed and now I don't know what to say....
Question is : IS THERE USAGE OF ANY TOOL SPECIFIED ? absolutely NO.There's whole clarification about lowering modifying Y and X sensitivity through windows(By axxo). Right or wrong?I will go with full honestly, I don't use it anymore because I currently play with /setconfig game_sensitivity 0.00015. Amal knows this as I told him once.Did vu provide a tool to you for that ?
We just have you 2 commands which are common these days.
If you have noticed the commands have their limits, the game sensitivity ratio can not go below 0.500000, so you use another file to do so and say u didn't knew if it was disallowed and now I don't know what to say....
There's whole clarification about lowering modifying Y and X sensitivity through windows(By axxo). Right or wrong?if you can't use cmds in-game then there is another method to change the game sensitivity through windows by going to your vcmp's directory and changing it manually and whats wrong in it ?
Omg VC:MP Beta Testers bunch of cheaters http://forum.vc-mp.org/?topic=4088.msg30251#msg30251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6KINvDBCk Alarm Alarm
You're people going to be crazy in cheating-paranoia.
Mice that have these functionalities have their changes applied system-wide, and not specifically to a game, they don't change the game's behaviour. This tool changes your game's behaviour according the settings you define. Very different and important for us to make a distinction here. For instance, the setting to change the zoom sensitivity would only change the weapons' zoom sensitivity, it wouldn't change the sensitivity of your mouse's scroll wheel. While if you did use a mouse driver, you'd be able to change the sensitivity of the scroll wheel but only system-wide for all your PC's applications. In VCMP you'd have a higher sensitivity everytime you used the scroll wheel, and with the tool I described, only your zooming sensitivity would be changed. So this tool, through the .dll modifies specific game memory addresses to allow this type of usage. It's very very different from the ocasional mouse driver.
Mice that have these functionalities have their changes applied system-wide, and not specifically to a game, they don't change the game's behaviour.
It seems your understanding of the english language is flawed. Let me simplify:Mice that have these functionalities have their changes applied system-wide, and not specifically to a game, they don't change the game's behaviour.
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTupjKd1.png&hash=be1d91a9aed629c2c8cfa7d2f936dc07d0cda420)
-Show me on that screenshot where you could adjust the sensitivity of weapon zooming in VCMP (weapon zooming only, not scroll, the tool I describe allows you to do this)It's clearly about aiming.
-A profile is simply a preset, you can give it any name, just like "VCMP", that doesn't mean that it's altering the game's behaviour, you can choose that VCMP profile and go play some other game and it would work.(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVXLGdZh.png&hash=58e13a3ca1441c34c7575f7ffe3e7e15179c540c)
No, it's about players who use this tool having access to functionalities that other players don't. Weapon zooming is one of those.-Show me on that screenshot where you could adjust the sensitivity of weapon zooming in VCMP (weapon zooming only, not scroll, the tool I describe allows you to do this)It's clearly about aiming.
It is true I dont play much thesedays, but long before I was a coder, I was player. I've been in this community many more years as a player, than I have been as a coder.-A profile is simply a preset, you can give it any name, just like "VCMP", that doesn't mean that it's altering the game's behaviour, you can choose that VCMP profile and go play some other game and it would work.(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVXLGdZh.png&hash=58e13a3ca1441c34c7575f7ffe3e7e15179c540c)
Sorry, your agruments to link it as 'cheat' is too weak. However, you are coder not a player, I can't blame you for that.
Vito, you are getting everything wrong hereThen tell me correct one.
having access to functionalities that other players don't.
About the "Link Program" function, it also doesn't change game behaviour. I'll explain:
And yet, for all the gaming mice that exist, none has the option to specifically change VCMP weapon zooming sensitivity, like the tool described.Quotehaving access to functionalities that other players don't.Ownership of gaming mouse too, not everybody own it.
Yes, exactly, mouse behaviour, not game behaviour. The tool I described changes various addresses of the game's memory, that is the definition of game cheating. It changes things inside the game. The razer sofware changes nothing inside the game, all the changes are made on the mouse, not the game itself, unlike the tool described.QuoteAbout the "Link Program" function, it also doesn't change game behaviour. I'll explain:It's change mouse behaviour per game.
So this software changes X-Y-sensetivity per weapon? What a big distinction switch it by macros? Or it's a cheat because it changes game's memory? I use no-cd, I am cheater too?And yet, for all the gaming mice that exist, none has the option to specifically change VCMP weapon zooming sensitivity, like the tool described.Quotehaving access to functionalities that other players don't.Ownership of gaming mouse too, not everybody own it.Yes, exactly, mouse behaviour, not game behaviour. The tool I described changes various addresses of the game's memory, that is the definition of game cheating. It changes things inside the game. The razer sofware changes nothing inside the game, all the changes are made on the mouse, not the game itself, unlike the tool described.QuoteAbout the "Link Program" function, it also doesn't change game behaviour. I'll explain:It's change mouse behaviour per game.
You have lost your mind m8So this software changes X-Y-sensetivity per weapon? What a big distinction switch it by macros? Or it's a cheat because it changes game's memory? I use no-cd, I am cheater too?And yet, for all the gaming mice that exist, none has the option to specifically change VCMP weapon zooming sensitivity, like the tool described.Quotehaving access to functionalities that other players don't.Ownership of gaming mouse too, not everybody own it.Yes, exactly, mouse behaviour, not game behaviour. The tool I described changes various addresses of the game's memory, that is the definition of game cheating. It changes things inside the game. The razer sofware changes nothing inside the game, all the changes are made on the mouse, not the game itself, unlike the tool described.QuoteAbout the "Link Program" function, it also doesn't change game behaviour. I'll explain:It's change mouse behaviour per game.
So this software changes X-Y-sensetivity per weapon?Changes zooming sensitivity, therefore should be only snipers
What a big distinction switch it by macros? Or it's a cheat because it changes game's memory? I use no-cd, I am cheater too?Wow, if you really cannot understand the difference between a no-cd .exe that simply allows you to open the game and a tool that allows you to change game values after the game is open, then I feel like I'm wasting my time here.
I feel like I'm wasting my time here.Yes you are.
even steam provides NO-CD vc, so they are hackers too ?Yes by newk's logic.
steam = hacker company ?
the point here mentioned is using third party software which gives an advantage to an individualGaming mouse's software = third party software too.
Third party software that changes the mouse behaviour, not game behaviour.even steam provides NO-CD vc, so they are hackers too ?Yes by newk's logic.
steam = hacker company ?the point here mentioned is using third party software which gives an advantage to an individualGaming mouse's software = third party software too.
And yes, gives an advantage.
So when Hanney VC:MP Beta Tester will be banned in all vc-mp servers?
I use non-official no-cd. Ban?Third party software that changes the mouse behaviour, not game behaviour.even steam provides NO-CD vc, so they are hackers too ?Yes by newk's logic.
steam = hacker company ?the point here mentioned is using third party software which gives an advantage to an individualGaming mouse's software = third party software too.
And yes, gives an advantage.
So when Hanney VC:MP Beta Tester will be banned in all vc-mp servers?
Using a no-cd .exe provided by an official source (steam) is different obviously.
I use non-official no-cd. Ban?
You using a no-cd .exe does not allow you to have access to game functionalities that other players don't have. You have the exact same functionalities they do in terms of multiplayer balance, so no, not a cheater.
What exacly game behaviour it changes? X-Y-sensetivity? It's mouse's one.The memory addresses that it changes belong to the game. Zooming sensitivity aswell, which doesn't belong to the mouse, it belongs to the game.
The memory addresses that it changes belong to the game. Zooming sensitivity aswell, which doesn't belong to the mouse, it belongs to the game.It's just different way to do equal act - change X-Y-sensetivity by specific pressed key(s)
Weapon zooming sensitivity is not. Can only be done using the tool.The memory addresses that it changes belong to the game. Zooming sensitivity aswell, which doesn't belong to the mouse, it belongs to the game.It's just different way to do equal act - change X-Y-sensetivity by specific pressed key(s)
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[23:08:43] <KakaroT> The administration told me i will be unbanned long ago
[23:08:56] <KakaroT> they didn't mention of posting ban appeals in future
[16:05:11] <S3vrin> Just do it before that I can't approve it nor I go with long ass discussiom
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[20:01:06] <S3vrin> Aur ban appeal me sevrin likhna
[20:01:23] <KakaroT> howl na likhon?
[20:05:05] <S3vrin> Nhi
[20:05:14] <KakaroT> ok
[20:05:25] <KakaroT> account approve karo
[20:05:29] <S3vrin> Tu bol k muje nhi yaad kisne ban kiya tha isi liye sevrin likh dai
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[20:17:47] <S3vrin> ECBot1-: 42160c616d3b188c6968a79d8bd20cd7b14ec48f banned by:[ S3vrin ] reason:[ Perma ]
[20:17:58] <S3vrin> Actually you was banned by me xD
[20:17:59] <KakaroT> Thanks :)
[20:18:07] <KakaroT> :v
[20:18:10] <S3vrin> So unbanned now by myself :D
[20:18:17] <KakaroT> :D
[20:18:44] <S3vrin> You know I got raged that time and that happens with everyone who is one some position
[20:18:57] <KakaroT> yea
[20:19:19] <S3vrin> So i personally believed after some months it wasnt you when i had good conversation with hunting
[20:19:42] <KakaroT> The whole drama was useless, we were targeted and forced to close clan by many administrations and krystianoo promised for instant unban if we close clan. But we didn't do it
[20:21:22] <KakaroT> Gohan left clan because we didn't move to his forum of ON when mine was down for some weeks
[20:22:05] <S3vrin> Oh
[20:22:20] <S3vrin> Well not closing the clan was wise decision
[20:22:21] <KakaroT> He said he will test, so i gave him and he promised not to share them. Then when he applied in vu he could do only fool them to get accepted back. So he revealed all the things to them and krystianoo
[20:22:55] <KakaroT> Yea, me and tom disagreed on closing clan. Hunting said he will do but then we didn't let him do later he got it why shouldn't we close
[20:23:37] <S3vrin> It was wise decision and now atleast your clan got cleaned
[20:23:50] <S3vrin> I still dont trust voyaflex tbh
[20:24:25] <S3vrin> Becausw if he didnt distributed nothing would've happened more
[20:24:30] <S3vrin> But thats past
[20:24:53] <S3vrin> You saw they was fucked up in vw6 even the gamemode was in their favor totally
[20:25:10] <KakaroT> yea, all the problem was created due to voyaflex using hacks and sharing with other members because we trusted him then whole clan knew there are hacks then voyaflex went against us and shared f1 with chernobyl and some others. Then he apologized, to get back in clan but later he left after drama happened. The other guy was Gohan who brought more trouble
[20:25:28] <KakaroT> yea, vw was their side
[20:25:35] <KakaroT> yet lost and banned me for f1
[20:25:57] <KakaroT> kelvin kicked me once for "suspecious" reason before i got banned
[20:25:58] <S3vrin> Lol
[20:26:05] <S3vrin> Fuck them
[20:26:08] <KakaroT> :D
[20:26:11] <S3vrin> They can just do this
[20:26:19] <KakaroT> I made many memes, did you see them?
[20:26:26] <S3vrin> Trc made 4410 points in total
[20:26:29] <S3vrin> Yeah lol
[20:26:35] <S3vrin> Thosw are funny
[20:26:39] <S3vrin> Wk site one right?
[20:26:44] <S3vrin> Those*
[20:26:56] <KakaroT> did they put there lol i didn't see
[20:27:10] <S3vrin> I remember 2015 when i came back to vcmp and thought to apply in TZ but when i saw its dead xD
[20:27:22] <KakaroT> yea xD
[20:27:32] <KakaroT> i left because it was dead
[20:27:46] <S3vrin> Then turning point i applied to vu which was bad for me
[20:28:26] <KakaroT> before leaving I wanted to see a better team to join, i could fine none than WK and TRC, rest clans were fucked. I joined wk and then left TZ later Hunting offered me to be admin so I went ahead
[20:28:39] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:07] <S3vrin> But now im in trc the most experienced, skillful, best clan of vcmp as wk is most skillful but its a team not clan type
[20:29:09] <KakaroT> WK put only one of my meme in their post
[20:29:12] <KakaroT> the krystianoo one
[20:29:19] <S3vrin> Hahahaha
[20:29:22] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:23] <KakaroT> :D
[20:29:46] <S3vrin> I remember last vw when krys was shouting dont let them take the lead etc
[20:29:55] <S3vrin> He's a pure dickhead
[20:30:01] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:30:12] <KakaroT> I heard he take pills and he got mental problems
[20:30:18] <S3vrin> VU and krys wanted to win alongwith mk thats why they brought ss
[20:30:33] <S3vrin> Yeah dont you see him by his posts
[20:30:42] <KakaroT> yea, they had all their team made already.
[20:30:54] <S3vrin> He's mental wild wise over confident pills taker bich
[20:30:59] <KakaroT> yea, i see kry's they are like cancer lol
[20:31:13] <S3vrin> But you know what actually
[20:31:24] <KakaroT> after vw vu got same as krys. both being mentally retarded lol
[20:31:51] <S3vrin> TRC, ON and WK is actually pain in the ass for them all of them(VU, SS, MK)
[20:31:58] <S3vrin> They cant do anything
[20:32:08] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:32:14] <S3vrin> The ctf match was actually in real 5-1 to TRC
[20:32:26] <KakaroT> I wonder when all those opponents gonna rise up and have well managed team play lol
[20:32:36] <S3vrin> Real score is 3-3 but actual is 5-1 to TRC
[20:33:03] <S3vrin> You cant even imagine vu winning against trc in ctf
[20:33:17] <S3vrin> Because ctf needs proper teamwork and courage
[20:33:23] <S3vrin> Which vu doesnt have
[20:33:39] <S3vrin> They rise for the start and then they're fucked up
[20:33:59] <KakaroT> yea
[20:34:12] <KakaroT> vw6 in nutshell was vw5
[20:34:22] <S3vrin> Anyways my mob's battery going to die im gonna charge it and play vcmp for a while as im frew after 3 daya
[20:34:32] <S3vrin> So cya for now
[20:34:33] <KakaroT> same thing happened. VU side leading at first and then crying for lose
[20:34:40] <KakaroT> alright cya
Weapon zooming sensitivity is not. Can only be done using the tool.http://www.bloody.tw/en/Products.php?pid=28&id=45
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[21:08:24] <S3vrin> post an unban appeal in EC
[21:08:33] <S3vrin> you'll be unbanned ;)
[21:08:38] <S3vrin> for sure, that's my promise!
[23:08:43] <KakaroT> The administration told me i will be unbanned long ago
[23:08:56] <KakaroT> they didn't mention of posting ban appeals in future
[16:05:11] <S3vrin> Just do it before that I can't approve it nor I go with long ass discussiom
[16:05:11] -KakaroT- I am away, please leave your message.
[16:05:21] <S3vrin> Discussion*
[16:05:42] <S3vrin> Believe me ;)
[19:08:11] <KakaroT> ok
[20:01:06] <S3vrin> Aur ban appeal me sevrin likhna
[20:01:23] <KakaroT> howl na likhon?
[20:05:05] <S3vrin> Nhi
[20:05:14] <KakaroT> ok
[20:05:25] <KakaroT> account approve karo
[20:05:29] <S3vrin> Tu bol k muje nhi yaad kisne ban kiya tha isi liye sevrin likh dai
[20:06:00] <S3vrin> Done
[20:06:35] <KakaroT> ok posting
[20:13:11] <KakaroT> done
[20:17:47] <S3vrin> ECBot1-: 42160c616d3b188c6968a79d8bd20cd7b14ec48f banned by:[ S3vrin ] reason:[ Perma ]
[20:17:58] <S3vrin> Actually you was banned by me xD
[20:17:59] <KakaroT> Thanks :)
[20:18:07] <KakaroT> :v
[20:18:10] <S3vrin> So unbanned now by myself :D
[20:18:17] <KakaroT> :D
[20:18:44] <S3vrin> You know I got raged that time and that happens with everyone who is one some position
[20:18:57] <KakaroT> yea
[20:19:19] <S3vrin> So i personally believed after some months it wasnt you when i had good conversation with hunting
[20:19:42] <KakaroT> The whole drama was useless, we were targeted and forced to close clan by many administrations and krystianoo promised for instant unban if we close clan. But we didn't do it
[20:21:22] <KakaroT> Gohan left clan because we didn't move to his forum of ON when mine was down for some weeks
[20:22:05] <S3vrin> Oh
[20:22:20] <S3vrin> Well not closing the clan was wise decision
[20:22:21] <KakaroT> He said he will test, so i gave him and he promised not to share them. Then when he applied in vu he could do only fool them to get accepted back. So he revealed all the things to them and krystianoo
[20:22:55] <KakaroT> Yea, me and tom disagreed on closing clan. Hunting said he will do but then we didn't let him do later he got it why shouldn't we close
[20:23:37] <S3vrin> It was wise decision and now atleast your clan got cleaned
[20:23:50] <S3vrin> I still dont trust voyaflex tbh
[20:24:25] <S3vrin> Becausw if he didnt distributed nothing would've happened more
[20:24:30] <S3vrin> But thats past
[20:24:53] <S3vrin> You saw they was fucked up in vw6 even the gamemode was in their favor totally
[20:25:10] <KakaroT> yea, all the problem was created due to voyaflex using hacks and sharing with other members because we trusted him then whole clan knew there are hacks then voyaflex went against us and shared f1 with chernobyl and some others. Then he apologized, to get back in clan but later he left after drama happened. The other guy was Gohan who brought more trouble
[20:25:28] <KakaroT> yea, vw was their side
[20:25:35] <KakaroT> yet lost and banned me for f1
[20:25:57] <KakaroT> kelvin kicked me once for "suspecious" reason before i got banned
[20:25:58] <S3vrin> Lol
[20:26:05] <S3vrin> Fuck them
[20:26:08] <KakaroT> :D
[20:26:11] <S3vrin> They can just do this
[20:26:19] <KakaroT> I made many memes, did you see them?
[20:26:26] <S3vrin> Trc made 4410 points in total
[20:26:29] <S3vrin> Yeah lol
[20:26:35] <S3vrin> Thosw are funny
[20:26:39] <S3vrin> Wk site one right?
[20:26:44] <S3vrin> Those*
[20:26:56] <KakaroT> did they put there lol i didn't see
[20:27:10] <S3vrin> I remember 2015 when i came back to vcmp and thought to apply in TZ but when i saw its dead xD
[20:27:22] <KakaroT> yea xD
[20:27:32] <KakaroT> i left because it was dead
[20:27:46] <S3vrin> Then turning point i applied to vu which was bad for me
[20:28:26] <KakaroT> before leaving I wanted to see a better team to join, i could fine none than WK and TRC, rest clans were fucked. I joined wk and then left TZ later Hunting offered me to be admin so I went ahead
[20:28:39] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:07] <S3vrin> But now im in trc the most experienced, skillful, best clan of vcmp as wk is most skillful but its a team not clan type
[20:29:09] <KakaroT> WK put only one of my meme in their post
[20:29:12] <KakaroT> the krystianoo one
[20:29:19] <S3vrin> Hahahaha
[20:29:22] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:23] <KakaroT> :D
[20:29:46] <S3vrin> I remember last vw when krys was shouting dont let them take the lead etc
[20:29:55] <S3vrin> He's a pure dickhead
[20:30:01] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:30:12] <KakaroT> I heard he take pills and he got mental problems
[20:30:18] <S3vrin> VU and krys wanted to win alongwith mk thats why they brought ss
[20:30:33] <S3vrin> Yeah dont you see him by his posts
[20:30:42] <KakaroT> yea, they had all their team made already.
[20:30:54] <S3vrin> He's mental wild wise over confident pills taker bich
[20:30:59] <KakaroT> yea, i see kry's they are like cancer lol
[20:31:13] <S3vrin> But you know what actually
[20:31:24] <KakaroT> after vw vu got same as krys. both being mentally retarded lol
[20:31:51] <S3vrin> TRC, ON and WK is actually pain in the ass for them all of them(VU, SS, MK)
[20:31:58] <S3vrin> They cant do anything
[20:32:08] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:32:14] <S3vrin> The ctf match was actually in real 5-1 to TRC
[20:32:26] <KakaroT> I wonder when all those opponents gonna rise up and have well managed team play lol
[20:32:36] <S3vrin> Real score is 3-3 but actual is 5-1 to TRC
[20:33:03] <S3vrin> You cant even imagine vu winning against trc in ctf
[20:33:17] <S3vrin> Because ctf needs proper teamwork and courage
[20:33:23] <S3vrin> Which vu doesnt have
[20:33:39] <S3vrin> They rise for the start and then they're fucked up
[20:33:59] <KakaroT> yea
[20:34:12] <KakaroT> vw6 in nutshell was vw5
[20:34:22] <S3vrin> Anyways my mob's battery going to die im gonna charge it and play vcmp for a while as im frew after 3 daya
[20:34:32] <S3vrin> So cya for now
[20:34:33] <KakaroT> same thing happened. VU side leading at first and then crying for lose
[20:34:40] <KakaroT> alright cya
bonusCode: [Select][21:08:18] <S3vrin> yo
[21:08:18] -KakaroT- I am away, please leave your message.
[21:08:24] <S3vrin> post an unban appeal in EC
[21:08:33] <S3vrin> you'll be unbanned ;)
[21:08:38] <S3vrin> for sure, that's my promise!
[23:08:43] <KakaroT> The administration told me i will be unbanned long ago
[23:08:56] <KakaroT> they didn't mention of posting ban appeals in future
[16:05:11] <S3vrin> Just do it before that I can't approve it nor I go with long ass discussiom
[16:05:11] -KakaroT- I am away, please leave your message.
[16:05:21] <S3vrin> Discussion*
[16:05:42] <S3vrin> Believe me ;)
[19:08:11] <KakaroT> ok
[20:01:06] <S3vrin> Aur ban appeal me sevrin likhna
[20:01:23] <KakaroT> howl na likhon?
[20:05:05] <S3vrin> Nhi
[20:05:14] <KakaroT> ok
[20:05:25] <KakaroT> account approve karo
[20:05:29] <S3vrin> Tu bol k muje nhi yaad kisne ban kiya tha isi liye sevrin likh dai
[20:06:00] <S3vrin> Done
[20:06:35] <KakaroT> ok posting
[20:13:11] <KakaroT> done
[20:17:47] <S3vrin> ECBot1-: 42160c616d3b188c6968a79d8bd20cd7b14ec48f banned by:[ S3vrin ] reason:[ Perma ]
[20:17:58] <S3vrin> Actually you was banned by me xD
[20:17:59] <KakaroT> Thanks :)
[20:18:07] <KakaroT> :v
[20:18:10] <S3vrin> So unbanned now by myself :D
[20:18:17] <KakaroT> :D
[20:18:44] <S3vrin> You know I got raged that time and that happens with everyone who is one some position
[20:18:57] <KakaroT> yea
[20:19:19] <S3vrin> So i personally believed after some months it wasnt you when i had good conversation with hunting
[20:19:42] <KakaroT> The whole drama was useless, we were targeted and forced to close clan by many administrations and krystianoo promised for instant unban if we close clan. But we didn't do it
[20:21:22] <KakaroT> Gohan left clan because we didn't move to his forum of ON when mine was down for some weeks
[20:22:05] <S3vrin> Oh
[20:22:20] <S3vrin> Well not closing the clan was wise decision
[20:22:21] <KakaroT> He said he will test, so i gave him and he promised not to share them. Then when he applied in vu he could do only fool them to get accepted back. So he revealed all the things to them and krystianoo
[20:22:55] <KakaroT> Yea, me and tom disagreed on closing clan. Hunting said he will do but then we didn't let him do later he got it why shouldn't we close
[20:23:37] <S3vrin> It was wise decision and now atleast your clan got cleaned
[20:23:50] <S3vrin> I still dont trust voyaflex tbh
[20:24:25] <S3vrin> Becausw if he didnt distributed nothing would've happened more
[20:24:30] <S3vrin> But thats past
[20:24:53] <S3vrin> You saw they was fucked up in vw6 even the gamemode was in their favor totally
[20:25:10] <KakaroT> yea, all the problem was created due to voyaflex using hacks and sharing with other members because we trusted him then whole clan knew there are hacks then voyaflex went against us and shared f1 with chernobyl and some others. Then he apologized, to get back in clan but later he left after drama happened. The other guy was Gohan who brought more trouble
[20:25:28] <KakaroT> yea, vw was their side
[20:25:35] <KakaroT> yet lost and banned me for f1
[20:25:57] <KakaroT> kelvin kicked me once for "suspecious" reason before i got banned
[20:25:58] <S3vrin> Lol
[20:26:05] <S3vrin> Fuck them
[20:26:08] <KakaroT> :D
[20:26:11] <S3vrin> They can just do this
[20:26:19] <KakaroT> I made many memes, did you see them?
[20:26:26] <S3vrin> Trc made 4410 points in total
[20:26:29] <S3vrin> Yeah lol
[20:26:35] <S3vrin> Thosw are funny
[20:26:39] <S3vrin> Wk site one right?
[20:26:44] <S3vrin> Those*
[20:26:56] <KakaroT> did they put there lol i didn't see
[20:27:10] <S3vrin> I remember 2015 when i came back to vcmp and thought to apply in TZ but when i saw its dead xD
[20:27:22] <KakaroT> yea xD
[20:27:32] <KakaroT> i left because it was dead
[20:27:46] <S3vrin> Then turning point i applied to vu which was bad for me
[20:28:26] <KakaroT> before leaving I wanted to see a better team to join, i could fine none than WK and TRC, rest clans were fucked. I joined wk and then left TZ later Hunting offered me to be admin so I went ahead
[20:28:39] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:07] <S3vrin> But now im in trc the most experienced, skillful, best clan of vcmp as wk is most skillful but its a team not clan type
[20:29:09] <KakaroT> WK put only one of my meme in their post
[20:29:12] <KakaroT> the krystianoo one
[20:29:19] <S3vrin> Hahahaha
[20:29:22] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:23] <KakaroT> :D
[20:29:46] <S3vrin> I remember last vw when krys was shouting dont let them take the lead etc
[20:29:55] <S3vrin> He's a pure dickhead
[20:30:01] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:30:12] <KakaroT> I heard he take pills and he got mental problems
[20:30:18] <S3vrin> VU and krys wanted to win alongwith mk thats why they brought ss
[20:30:33] <S3vrin> Yeah dont you see him by his posts
[20:30:42] <KakaroT> yea, they had all their team made already.
[20:30:54] <S3vrin> He's mental wild wise over confident pills taker bich
[20:30:59] <KakaroT> yea, i see kry's they are like cancer lol
[20:31:13] <S3vrin> But you know what actually
[20:31:24] <KakaroT> after vw vu got same as krys. both being mentally retarded lol
[20:31:51] <S3vrin> TRC, ON and WK is actually pain in the ass for them all of them(VU, SS, MK)
[20:31:58] <S3vrin> They cant do anything
[20:32:08] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:32:14] <S3vrin> The ctf match was actually in real 5-1 to TRC
[20:32:26] <KakaroT> I wonder when all those opponents gonna rise up and have well managed team play lol
[20:32:36] <S3vrin> Real score is 3-3 but actual is 5-1 to TRC
[20:33:03] <S3vrin> You cant even imagine vu winning against trc in ctf
[20:33:17] <S3vrin> Because ctf needs proper teamwork and courage
[20:33:23] <S3vrin> Which vu doesnt have
[20:33:39] <S3vrin> They rise for the start and then they're fucked up
[20:33:59] <KakaroT> yea
[20:34:12] <KakaroT> vw6 in nutshell was vw5
[20:34:22] <S3vrin> Anyways my mob's battery going to die im gonna charge it and play vcmp for a while as im frew after 3 daya
[20:34:32] <S3vrin> So cya for now
[20:34:33] <KakaroT> same thing happened. VU side leading at first and then crying for lose
[20:34:40] <KakaroT> alright cya
bonusI banned him, then after almost 6 months I unbanned because he is innocent. Do whatever you can.Code: [Select][21:08:18] <S3vrin> yo
[21:08:18] -KakaroT- I am away, please leave your message.
[21:08:24] <S3vrin> post an unban appeal in EC
[21:08:33] <S3vrin> you'll be unbanned ;)
[21:08:38] <S3vrin> for sure, that's my promise!
[23:08:43] <KakaroT> The administration told me i will be unbanned long ago
[23:08:56] <KakaroT> they didn't mention of posting ban appeals in future
[16:05:11] <S3vrin> Just do it before that I can't approve it nor I go with long ass discussiom
[16:05:11] -KakaroT- I am away, please leave your message.
[16:05:21] <S3vrin> Discussion*
[16:05:42] <S3vrin> Believe me ;)
[19:08:11] <KakaroT> ok
[20:01:06] <S3vrin> Aur ban appeal me sevrin likhna
[20:01:23] <KakaroT> howl na likhon?
[20:05:05] <S3vrin> Nhi
[20:05:14] <KakaroT> ok
[20:05:25] <KakaroT> account approve karo
[20:05:29] <S3vrin> Tu bol k muje nhi yaad kisne ban kiya tha isi liye sevrin likh dai
[20:06:00] <S3vrin> Done
[20:06:35] <KakaroT> ok posting
[20:13:11] <KakaroT> done
[20:17:47] <S3vrin> ECBot1-: 42160c616d3b188c6968a79d8bd20cd7b14ec48f banned by:[ S3vrin ] reason:[ Perma ]
[20:17:58] <S3vrin> Actually you was banned by me xD
[20:17:59] <KakaroT> Thanks :)
[20:18:07] <KakaroT> :v
[20:18:10] <S3vrin> So unbanned now by myself :D
[20:18:17] <KakaroT> :D
[20:18:44] <S3vrin> You know I got raged that time and that happens with everyone who is one some position
[20:18:57] <KakaroT> yea
[20:19:19] <S3vrin> So i personally believed after some months it wasnt you when i had good conversation with hunting
[20:19:42] <KakaroT> The whole drama was useless, we were targeted and forced to close clan by many administrations and krystianoo promised for instant unban if we close clan. But we didn't do it
[20:21:22] <KakaroT> Gohan left clan because we didn't move to his forum of ON when mine was down for some weeks
[20:22:05] <S3vrin> Oh
[20:22:20] <S3vrin> Well not closing the clan was wise decision
[20:22:21] <KakaroT> He said he will test, so i gave him and he promised not to share them. Then when he applied in vu he could do only fool them to get accepted back. So he revealed all the things to them and krystianoo
[20:22:55] <KakaroT> Yea, me and tom disagreed on closing clan. Hunting said he will do but then we didn't let him do later he got it why shouldn't we close
[20:23:37] <S3vrin> It was wise decision and now atleast your clan got cleaned
[20:23:50] <S3vrin> I still dont trust voyaflex tbh
[20:24:25] <S3vrin> Becausw if he didnt distributed nothing would've happened more
[20:24:30] <S3vrin> But thats past
[20:24:53] <S3vrin> You saw they was fucked up in vw6 even the gamemode was in their favor totally
[20:25:10] <KakaroT> yea, all the problem was created due to voyaflex using hacks and sharing with other members because we trusted him then whole clan knew there are hacks then voyaflex went against us and shared f1 with chernobyl and some others. Then he apologized, to get back in clan but later he left after drama happened. The other guy was Gohan who brought more trouble
[20:25:28] <KakaroT> yea, vw was their side
[20:25:35] <KakaroT> yet lost and banned me for f1
[20:25:57] <KakaroT> kelvin kicked me once for "suspecious" reason before i got banned
[20:25:58] <S3vrin> Lol
[20:26:05] <S3vrin> Fuck them
[20:26:08] <KakaroT> :D
[20:26:11] <S3vrin> They can just do this
[20:26:19] <KakaroT> I made many memes, did you see them?
[20:26:26] <S3vrin> Trc made 4410 points in total
[20:26:29] <S3vrin> Yeah lol
[20:26:35] <S3vrin> Thosw are funny
[20:26:39] <S3vrin> Wk site one right?
[20:26:44] <S3vrin> Those*
[20:26:56] <KakaroT> did they put there lol i didn't see
[20:27:10] <S3vrin> I remember 2015 when i came back to vcmp and thought to apply in TZ but when i saw its dead xD
[20:27:22] <KakaroT> yea xD
[20:27:32] <KakaroT> i left because it was dead
[20:27:46] <S3vrin> Then turning point i applied to vu which was bad for me
[20:28:26] <KakaroT> before leaving I wanted to see a better team to join, i could fine none than WK and TRC, rest clans were fucked. I joined wk and then left TZ later Hunting offered me to be admin so I went ahead
[20:28:39] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:07] <S3vrin> But now im in trc the most experienced, skillful, best clan of vcmp as wk is most skillful but its a team not clan type
[20:29:09] <KakaroT> WK put only one of my meme in their post
[20:29:12] <KakaroT> the krystianoo one
[20:29:19] <S3vrin> Hahahaha
[20:29:22] <KakaroT> yea
[20:29:23] <KakaroT> :D
[20:29:46] <S3vrin> I remember last vw when krys was shouting dont let them take the lead etc
[20:29:55] <S3vrin> He's a pure dickhead
[20:30:01] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:30:12] <KakaroT> I heard he take pills and he got mental problems
[20:30:18] <S3vrin> VU and krys wanted to win alongwith mk thats why they brought ss
[20:30:33] <S3vrin> Yeah dont you see him by his posts
[20:30:42] <KakaroT> yea, they had all their team made already.
[20:30:54] <S3vrin> He's mental wild wise over confident pills taker bich
[20:30:59] <KakaroT> yea, i see kry's they are like cancer lol
[20:31:13] <S3vrin> But you know what actually
[20:31:24] <KakaroT> after vw vu got same as krys. both being mentally retarded lol
[20:31:51] <S3vrin> TRC, ON and WK is actually pain in the ass for them all of them(VU, SS, MK)
[20:31:58] <S3vrin> They cant do anything
[20:32:08] <KakaroT> yea lol
[20:32:14] <S3vrin> The ctf match was actually in real 5-1 to TRC
[20:32:26] <KakaroT> I wonder when all those opponents gonna rise up and have well managed team play lol
[20:32:36] <S3vrin> Real score is 3-3 but actual is 5-1 to TRC
[20:33:03] <S3vrin> You cant even imagine vu winning against trc in ctf
[20:33:17] <S3vrin> Because ctf needs proper teamwork and courage
[20:33:23] <S3vrin> Which vu doesnt have
[20:33:39] <S3vrin> They rise for the start and then they're fucked up
[20:33:59] <KakaroT> yea
[20:34:12] <KakaroT> vw6 in nutshell was vw5
[20:34:22] <S3vrin> Anyways my mob's battery going to die im gonna charge it and play vcmp for a while as im frew after 3 daya
[20:34:32] <S3vrin> So cya for now
[20:34:33] <KakaroT> same thing happened. VU side leading at first and then crying for lose
[20:34:40] <KakaroT> alright cya
Thats clearly bullshit I never used zooming laser or anything whatever it was /setconfig tag_maxdist 300
I am not worried nor scared because I didn't cheater nor I am lying. Do whatever you can using full force.
I explained what was needed in my first post. GL with the rest of stuff.
I always knew there was smth fishy with all this 0.4 m4 whoring, and i wasnt wrong. some bitches cant play fair yet,
there must be a 30% of ppl being fishy and using 0.4 new craps to take advantage around vcmp
Is it that hard to play without all these fishy things? nie i dont think so
bonusI banned him, then after almost 6 months I unbanned because he is innocent. Do whatever you can.
___
Thats clearly bullshit I never used zooming laser or anything whatever it was /setconfig tag_maxdist 300
I am not worried nor scared because I didn't cheater nor I am lying. Do whatever you can using full force.
I explained what was needed in my first post. GL with the rest of stuff.
http://www.bloody.tw/en/Products.php?pid=28&id=45That page shows all black for me, can't really see anything there, but once again: Whatever features that mouse gives you, it does so by not changing any game behaviour., it just changes mouse behaviour. The tool, changes vice city game memory addresses. I also don't believe that any mouse exists that has a specific function for "Vice City weapon zooming". There's just toggle buttons, which can be used to simulate that behaviour but still not the same, not even close.
^Such mouse allow you to change zooming sens, just customize a core, press button to change to sniper mode, and boom and again to back or just bind it with zoom button, as long as you hold zoom button the core remains activated and as you leave button, core deactivates. problem?
Just tell me the difference? Those mouse can be linked to game as pointed by vito. both things are same if you change sens by game modification or by mouse drivers, the thing is you gonna aim better. It doesn't matter, if you have non gaming mouse and use asi to adjust mouse sens or have a gaming mouse and adjust sens by its drivers. Does it even matter? want 100% fair play? lock everything in game to default so nothing can be customized from game. Then we will have 100% fair play. modifying sniper scope for accuracy at long range where laser can't reach/appear, modifying palms to invisible for clear view and shooting player hiding behind them is cheating too. Doesn't matter done by modifying game or using a third party hack. Both affects gameplay no matter if it is changing game address or using system wide programs. Both provide same thing. Just done different way.http://www.bloody.tw/en/Products.php?pid=28&id=45That page shows all black for me, can't really see anything there, but once again: Whatever features that mouse gives you, it does so by not changing any game behaviour., it just changes mouse behaviour. The tool, changes vice city game memory addresses. I also don't believe that any mouse exists that has a specific function for "Vice City weapon zooming". There's just toggle buttons, which can be used to simulate that behaviour but still not the same, not even close.
^Such mouse allow you to change zooming sens, just customize a core, press button to change to sniper mode, and boom and again to back or just bind it with zoom button, as long as you hold zoom button the core remains activated and as you leave button, core deactivates. problem?
I've already explained the difference 100 times. If you guys can't understand what I'm saying then, that's not my fault.
Just tell me the difference? Those mouse can be linked to game as pointed by vito.
both things are same if you change sens by game modification or by mouse drivers, the thing is you gonna aim better. It doesn't matter, if you have non gaming mouse and use asi to adjust mouse sens or have a gaming mouse and adjust sens by its drivers. Does it even matter? want 100% fair play? lock everything in game to default so nothing can be customized from game. Then we will have 100% fair play. modifying sniper scope for accuracy at long range where laser can't reach/appear, modifying palms to invisible for clear view and shooting player hiding behind them is cheating too. Doesn't matter done by modifying game or using a third party hack. Both affects gameplay no matter if it is changing game address or using system wide programs. Both provide same thing. Just done different way.The means to an ends are just as important as the final result. No mouse has a "vice city zooming sensitivity setting" like the tool has, therefore it cannot be fully replicated only simulated.
PS: lemme point out what administrations said when it came to banning players with greenless vc mod, they said they can't detect it on other screen only from user's perspective, since when is axis adjustment detected from other perspective except user's.
Personally i dont think this is ok but you can't control everyone's game.Indeed we can't control or detect it yet. But when we have confessions or logs like these, that's more than enough to take a decision.
Or can you?
I only read NewK's post, so I'll disappoint you with this: You can set y-x sensitivities directly to mice like Razer via software (Razer Synapse). I could do that on my Razer mouse. I think I already posted a screenshot about a year ago. So you can't do anything about that as not only vcmp players do that. I mean, personally I don't do that because I prefer y-x sens on the same level. However, zoom sensitivity would already be considered as cheating or whatever.Should've read more, everyone knows that, all of that has been discussed already, here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7727.msg89805#msg89805)
I've already explained the difference 100 times. If you guys can't understand what I'm saying then, that's not my fault.If you did understand "same thing done different way".
The means to an ends are just as important as the final result. No mouse has a "vice city zooming sensitivity setting" like the tool has, therefore it cannot be fully replicated only simulated.I already showed you a mouse (http://www.bloody.tw/en/product.php?pid=10&id=119) which can do "zooming sensitivity" Either zoom axis adjustment or zooming faster.
Indeed we can't control or detect it yet. But when we have confessions or logs like these, that's more than enough to take a decision.There were/are videos of greenless/modified sniper scopes users they posted themselves, weren't they enough to take decision?
It's not the same thing done in a different way. Zooming sensitivity can only be done with the tool. The mouse you linked has SCROLL sensitivity and you have to toggle it, the tool has ZOOM sensitivity. It changes ZOOM SENSITIVITY without affecting the SCROLL sensitivity, you can increase ZOOM sensitivity but scroll speed isn't affected when changing weapons. With the mouse you can't do that. You can only do that by pressing buttons on the side of the mouse to toggle those changes. So as you see, it's not the same thing done in a different way. It's very different.I've already explained the difference 100 times. If you guys can't understand what I'm saying then, that's not my fault.If you did understand "same thing done different way".The means to an ends are just as important as the final result. No mouse has a "vice city zooming sensitivity setting" like the tool has, therefore it cannot be fully replicated only simulated.I already showed you a mouse (http://www.bloody.tw/en/product.php?pid=10&id=119) which can do "zooming sensitivity" Either zoom axis adjustment or zooming faster.
Where and when, I've never seen any reports from you.
There were/are videos of greenless/modified sniper scopes users they posted themselves, weren't they enough to take decision?
PS: If you still find excuses to defend it, I am out. "Common sense is not a rule when it is against your own members." -your logicI have no idea what you're trying to say here.
I'd rather my server be empty or die than conforming to a community where things like this are apparently okay.Yes Newk , I know you will be man of your words even If that means banning a staff member , You should take action immediately and set an example for others.
there must be a 30% of ppl being fishy and using 0.4 new craps to take advantage around vcmp(https://s29.postimg.org/yo3hwswpz/Capture.png)
really this topic made my day :''''(
I find it weird, that such a thing would only show up now. I mean if you had this proof before, why post it now? Today of all days? Why not report this to me before? Worry not though, if this is proven to be true, actions will be taken.QuoteI'd rather my server be empty or die than conforming to a community where things like this are apparently okay.Yes Newk , I know you will be man of your words even If that means banning a staff member , You should take action immediately and set an example for others.
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Now please , Don't give me any counter bullshit arguments as this is clearly cheating , It is a third-party software which gives you advantage over regular normal players and for those who say it is not cheating , Yes It is , It does gives you advantage otherwise it would not be called a "cheat engine".
"Once a hacker , Always a hacker."
-Noori
Because I found it after ViceWar , Otherwise I would have posted it and regarding it to be true.It is not a big deal , Check the link of video , He live-streamed himself and Vice city is loaded in the cheat engine.Thanks for reporting. Seeing as Krystianoo has confessed he will receive the same punishment as the others.
This was used in CTF so its your decision to make.
[13:01:05] <~[TDH]Tom> https://r1---sn-xguxaxjvh-8v1e.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?key=yt6&upn=cuLOTWEui5Y&ratebypass=yes&ipbits=0&itag=22&initcwndbps=3836250&dur=4145.017&lmt=1472766564169116&sparams=dur%2Cei%2Cid%2Cinitcwndbps%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Clmt%2Cmime%2Cmm%2Cmn%2Cms%2Cmv%2Cpl%2Cratebypass%2Crequiressl%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&ei=bUReWKn4NoedY-jAnvgE&mime=video%2Fmp4&ip=5.165.67.62&requiressl=yes&pl=20&mn=sn-xguxaxjvh-8v1e&mm=31&source=youtube&mv=m&mt=1482572540&ms=au&id=o-AIc2701j6QgAQc0KY2SMmki75wy_NzAjfkvEJ3Z715IM&expire=1482594510&signature=BB88FBEEC545401541C015D613BE9BF82E08CD82.371D41B96C9865A10883D87E3E173C070DB41393&title=dna%20vu
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There's this thing in the present called a proper mouse that can do this for you.http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7727.msg89812#msg89812
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Stop being stuck in the year 2000 and be butthurt over something that is common in modern day gaming.
morphine be like now after Servin's skills. "Y DIDN'T U STAP US FR0M CHITING? WHY NOT? WHY SERVER ADMIN DIDN'T KICKED US, WHY ADMIN SERVER BOT SCRIPT FAILED, WHY U NO TEST THIS" another great respect for Your clan in a single Year.this is the proof of how being in a trial stage without being promoted during 2 years could affect to your mind, an advice fellow vcmp mates that are currently in a trial stage, do your best and try to get the full tag as soon as possible, dont let that happen to you.
There's this thing in the present called a proper mouse that can do this for you.http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7727.msg89812#msg89812
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Stop being stuck in the year 2000 and be butthurt over something that is common in modern day gaming.
ExplanationWhat the fuck are you on about.
Hello everyone, today I'd like to make something public. Something important which I think everyone should know about. It is important for people (more importantly server staff members) to know this tool exists and it's being used and distributed. I'm talking about a tool/program that some people of this community use to give them an advantage by modifying their mouse sensitivity settings. This tool is a .dll that is injected into the game and through the use of an additional .ini file, you configure your mouse's individual X and Y axis aswell as zoom sensitivity.
So why is this a big deal? For those not aware, VC:MP 0.4 used to have an option on the config file that allowed players to do this same thing. Individually adjust their mouse's X and Y axis. This allowed players to have for instance, super high sensitivity for horizontal mouse navigation, but low sensitivity vertical mouse navigation and viceversa. A long time ago, VC:MP Devs decided to remove this option and added another option that allows players to adjust their sensitivity proportionally for both the X and Y axis, instead of individually. Therefore leveling the playing field for all players. This means the players would no longer be able to adjust their mouse's X and Y axis individually.
this is the proof of how being in a trial stage without being promoted during 2 years could affect to your mind, an advice fellow vcmp mates that are currently in a trial stage, do your best and try to get the full tag as soon as possible, dont let that happen to you.cough yes, why not. Atleast I don't cheat and don't cry to Admins why their Server scripted failed. You seems be really liking My MK promotion. I've screenshots what happened off boards. I don't have to prove to a tard clan mate who is impressing His clan leader, Not just You, including the one who I believed were the best like, Noori, ZUBI and Servin. So get off My promotion as I know I was right there. Better to get of My MK topic and save some rep and respect for Your shitty clan. :)
with all of my best wishes.
...Was trying to link you to a reply of mine regarding that program. And the fact that there is no option to change "zoom sensitivity". Only the tool I mentioned can do that. With the mouse, there are only toggles you can assign on those sensitivity stages you meantioned. Don't know what you mean by quoting that first paragraph of my post.
I understand what you're trying to say now, I thought you were referring to your original post and explanation of said tool....Was trying to link you to a reply of mine regarding that program. And the fact that there is no option to change "zoom sensitivity". Only the tool I mentioned can do that. With the mouse, there are only toggles you can assign on those sensitivity stages you meantioned. Don't know what you mean by quoting that first paragraph of my post.
I know you can do that with macros but that's not the same as what the tool does, as I said, the tool I mention needs no press of a button. It simply changes your zooming sensitivity and doesn't affect your scrolling sensitivity while doing other actions like changing weapons for example.I understand what you're trying to say now, I thought you were referring to your original post and explanation of said tool....Was trying to link you to a reply of mine regarding that program. And the fact that there is no option to change "zoom sensitivity". Only the tool I mentioned can do that. With the mouse, there are only toggles you can assign on those sensitivity stages you meantioned. Don't know what you mean by quoting that first paragraph of my post.
However, this is still possible to be done by anyone via several ways.
1. The tool you're describing by injecting some type of .dll into the game.
2. Creating a macro (can be done via mouse/keyboard software depending on which product you're using) to adjust scroll speed in windows mouse settings while playing.
3. Creating a script via third party programs like autohotkey to change scroll speed in windows mouse settings while being ingame with the press of a button. This would be the easiest option for anyone who doesn't have the knowledge or resources for above mentioned methods.
I know you can do that with macros but that's not the same as what the tool does, as I said, the tool I mention needs no press of a button. It simply changes your zooming sensitivity and doesn't affect your scrolling sensitivity while doing other actions like changing weapons for example.I explained it already that you can bind sniper mode activation key to right click (scope button) as hold bind. so when you scope the sniper mode is activated in 0ms and now u can zoom faster. And when u exit scope your main mode (settings) are activated again in 0ms. Which makes it same as the tool above. If you still say it is not "same thing done different way."
I know you can do that with macros but that's not the same as what the tool does, as I said, the tool I mention needs no press of a button. It simply changes your zooming sensitivity and doesn't affect your scrolling sensitivity while doing other actions like changing weapons for example.So it's basically becoming a sort of "hardcoded" thing in the game for say scopes only, making them fully zoomed in while you aim down sights if desired?
Still not the same at all, what if I try to use FPV with an M4 or an RPG? I get that same effect which is not the way the tool works.I know you can do that with macros but that's not the same as what the tool does, as I said, the tool I mention needs no press of a button. It simply changes your zooming sensitivity and doesn't affect your scrolling sensitivity while doing other actions like changing weapons for example.I explained it already that you can bind sniper mode activation key to right click (scope button) as hold bind. so when you scope the sniper mode is activated in 0ms and now u can zoom faster. And when u exit scope your main mode (settings) are activated again in 0ms. Which makes it same as the tool above. If you still say it is not "same thing done different way."
Still not the same at all, what if I try to use FPV with an M4 or an RPG? I get that same effect which is not the way the tool works.Since when do m4 and rpg zoom?
Both use right click (scope button) which will trigger your activation key.Still not the same at all, what if I try to use FPV with an M4 or an RPG? I get that same effect which is not the way the tool works.Since when do m4 and rpg zoom?
so you gonna zoom in/out with m4 and rpg?Both use right click (scope button) which will trigger your activation key.Still not the same at all, what if I try to use FPV with an M4 or an RPG? I get that same effect which is not the way the tool works.Since when do m4 and rpg zoom?
Both use right click (scope button) which will trigger your activation key.You talking about something like this? http://www.gtagaming.com/downloads/gta-vice-city/tools/522
Here's the latest version of the camera hack mod for Vice City which enables things such as first person views.
As i said fellow trial mates around vcmp, dont let that ^ happen to you, good luck you all with your promotions, im sure nobody will ever reach bhai's record 2 years on trial stage.
It is total nonsense to talk about bhai or his promotion here. Don't get off topic.
Jesus christ you're thick. I was telling you what would happen if we use your "solution", this solution:so you gonna zoom in/out with m4 and rpg?Both use right click (scope button) which will trigger your activation key.Still not the same at all, what if I try to use FPV with an M4 or an RPG? I get that same effect which is not the way the tool works.Since when do m4 and rpg zoom?
I explained it already that you can bind sniper mode activation key to right click (scope button) as hold bind.If we did that, whenever we used FPV (right click button) with M4 or RPG it would trigger your bind key and the same effect would happen for the M4 and the RPG. Get it now? This wouldn't happen when using the tool.
I can see how people call this cheating but then again, the means and methods are out there for everyone.Indeed they are, but just because it's possible, it doesn't mean we should allow it.
If we did that, whenever we used FPV (right click button) with M4 or RPG it would trigger your bind key and the same effect would happen for the M4 and the RPG. Get it now? This wouldn't happen when using the tool.Actually, nothing would happen since both M4 and RPG don't have the ability to zoom in unlike sniper rifles.
I meant with his solution (using a bind key on gaming mouse to trigger sensitivity)If we did that, whenever we used FPV (right click button) with M4 or RPG it would trigger your bind key and the same effect would happen for the M4 and the RPG. Get it now? This wouldn't happen when using the tool.Actually, nothing would happen since both M4 and RPG don't have the ability to zoom in.
Sure the bind would try to enforce the "zoom" but it wouldn't have any effect on those weapons.
To all the dumb idiots who are advocating or spreading this tool:Is Hanney the dumb idiot?
I meant with his solution (using a bind key on gaming mouse to trigger sensitivity)That bind would do nothing it only activates the sniping mode which will have scroll sens higher to zoom in fast. Since you can't zoom in with m4 and rpg the activated sniper mode will have no effect at all.
That's exactly what I was talking about, if his bind is meant to increase zooming sensitivity then it wouldn't be working on M4 or RPG since both are unable to zoom in like sniper rifles can.I meant with his solution (using a bind key on gaming mouse to trigger sensitivity)If we did that, whenever we used FPV (right click button) with M4 or RPG it would trigger your bind key and the same effect would happen for the M4 and the RPG. Get it now? This wouldn't happen when using the tool.Actually, nothing would happen since both M4 and RPG don't have the ability to zoom in.
Sure the bind would try to enforce the "zoom" but it wouldn't have any effect on those weapons.
But his bind woud get triggered every time he pressed the right mouse button. His mouse binding would have no way of knowing wheather he's holding a sniper or m4.That's exactly what I was talking about, if his bind is meant to increase zooming sensitivity then it wouldn't be working on M4 or RPG since both are unable to zoom in like sniper rifles can.I meant with his solution (using a bind key on gaming mouse to trigger sensitivity)If we did that, whenever we used FPV (right click button) with M4 or RPG it would trigger your bind key and the same effect would happen for the M4 and the RPG. Get it now? This wouldn't happen when using the tool.Actually, nothing would happen since both M4 and RPG don't have the ability to zoom in.
Sure the bind would try to enforce the "zoom" but it wouldn't have any effect on those weapons.
As I said the bind will do its job regardless but they have no effect on the aforementioned weapons due to their lack of scope zooming.
But his bind woud get triggered every time he pressed the right mouse button. His mouse binding would have no way of knowing wheather he's holding a sniper or m4.That doesn't matter. The bind will do its job regardless of what weapon he's using whenever he presses the button.
I still don't understand. You can zoom-in/out with m4 like with sniper (for example)?No that is not possible, never has been since it's hardcoded into the game.
I still don't understand. You can zoom-in/out with m4 like with sniper (for example)?No that is not possible, never has been since it's hardcoded into the game.
Only via Cleo modding can that be achieved.
Basically yes, only the difference here being that the clutch doesn't adjust x/y dpi sensitivity but automatically zooms in at a much higher speed than normally with sniper rifles.I still don't understand. You can zoom-in/out with m4 like with sniper (for example)?No that is not possible, never has been since it's hardcoded into the game.
Only via Cleo modding can that be achieved.
So then it's like dpi clutch macro on Razer Synapse? Hold to trigger low vertical sens?
Assuming this works perfectly with 0ms delay (which is to say alot in a fast paced game like VC:MP), the setting on the .ini file of the tool that controls this value, has an "_X" on the end of its name (not going to write its full name otherwise people can google it and find it, but the people with this tool can check the name themselves), which is to say it supposedly controls the x-axis aswell. On those logs I posted, it is said that it controls the zoom so what I can assume from this, is that it controls both the zoom and the x-axis, in which case the x-axis will get triggered after pressing the right mouse for all weapons that use FPV.But his bind woud get triggered every time he pressed the right mouse button. His mouse binding would have no way of knowing wheather he's holding a sniper or m4.That doesn't matter. The bind will do its job regardless of what weapon he's using whenever he presses the button.
See it this way; if he uses M4 or RPG and tries to aim in FPV with them, the bind will do what it's programmed to do which is zooming in at an increased sensitivity.
However while the bind is trying to do that, the reality remains that nothing will happen since both M4 and RPGs can't zoom in like sniper rifles can.
The gameplay is unaffected in this case.
Now if he would switch to a sniper rifle and try to aim, the bind will again do its job.
In this case the bind will have effect since the scopes allow to zoom in and out at will.
The game's mechanics pretty much restricts the bind to sniper rifles only.
The only way for that bind to have an effect on M4 or RPG is by modding either of those weps in a way that allows them to zoom in like sniper rifles do.
This is only achievable via Cleo modding.
Assuming this works perfectly with 0ms delay (which is to say alot in a fast paced game like VC:MP), the setting on the .ini file of the tool that controls this value, has an "_X" on the end of its name (not going to write its full name otherwise people can google it and find it, but the people with this tool can check the name themselves), which is to say it supposedly controls the x-axis aswell. On those logs I posted, it is said that it controls the zoom so what I can assume from this, is that it controls both the zoom and the x-axis, in which case the x-axis will get triggered after pressing the right mouse for all weapons that use FPV.The method I described would work 100% properly without any delay (as that can be programmed) however I don't know the deal with the x axis adjustment in your tool as that is a case apart from this one.
My main concern still stands though, which is to have a .dll that is altering game addresses, while the mouse drivers dont' change anything in the game, just the mouse itself.
Oh, so why then banning krystiano knowing he didn't zoom in weapons, but just lowered y-sensitivity?krystianoo did use a 3rd party software to edit memory addresses just like this tool does, also krystianoo then used keybinds like hotkeys to switch through different sensitivity settings while ingame.
Discuss and shit post away.
Well, I'll never understand why are different y-x axis considered a cheat, because even in esports, players do that and it's completely legal. If it doesn't interfere with other game stuff, like change fov/anything except y-x sensitivity, what is the real problem?The difference is if you are modifying your game through some .dll /editing memory or simply using a feature a from the mouse you bought that does not touch the game.
I guess if I changed my WASD binding to up/down/left/right, I'd be considered as a member of ON clan.
simply using a feature a from the mouse you bought that does not touch the game.Hello undercover Razer's marketer. Ok we all will buy your mouse to be not cheaters.
thankssimply using a feature a from the mouse you bought that does not touch the game.Hello undercover Razer's marketer. Ok we all will buy your mouse to be not cheaters.
Me later.thankssimply using a feature a from the mouse you bought that does not touch the game.Hello undercover Razer's marketer. Ok we all will buy your mouse to be not cheaters.
also krystianoo then used keybinds like hotkeys to switch through different sensitivity settings while ingame.OMFG MK BUSTED
Show must go on!I don't see how making hotkeys for textual commands ingame is illegal. Go ahead and ban beatz then as well lol, he's been using them since '12
WK agents say hello (http://i.imgur.com/P39d8gS.png) 8)also krystianoo then used keybinds like hotkeys to switch through different sensitivity settings while ingame.OMFG MK BUSTED
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Show must go on!
WK agents say hello (http://i.imgur.com/P39d8gS.png) 8)also krystianoo then used keybinds like hotkeys to switch through different sensitivity settings while ingame.OMFG MK BUSTED
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Show must go on!I don't see how making hotkeys for textual commands ingame is illegal. Go ahead and ban beatz then as well lol, he's been using them since '12
WK agents say hello (http://i.imgur.com/P39d8gS.png) 8)also krystianoo then used keybinds like hotkeys to switch through different sensitivity settings while ingame.OMFG MK BUSTED
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But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.
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Can that be called 'hacking'?
not wk hack lol It is on gta modding forums. It has been there for years since 0.3. If you didn't find it then its not wk's job to share you. like " hey we found this mod, here it is if you don't know"better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
Nobody asked u.not wk hack lol It is on gta modding forums. It has been there for years since 0.3. If you didn't find it then its not wk's job to share you. like " hey we found this mod, here it is if you don't know"better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
Then why did you distributed hacks?not wk hack lol It is on gta modding forums. It has been there for years since 0.3. If you didn't find it then its not wk's job to share you. like " hey we found this mod, here it is if you don't know"better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
fuck off everyone, you all set your motherfucking sens to 0.000800 or even less ( 3 bars in normal settings)
I invite you all to play at 8 bars ( which would be like 0.02500 sens in that lame cmd you all use) so stop crying over sens thing while ive been always used default sens and used to rape almost everyone years ago without cheating or 3rd party programs, Koray is the only one who can really say that has beaten me.(and he knows it was a very close match)
GO ALL TRY PLAYING AT DEFAULT SETTINGS LIKE ME AND TRY TO RAPE PPL
If some people are too lazy or too stupid to figure out something as easy as google then it really is not the job of a particular group to provide you with links.better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
So their job is just to distribute hacks only?If some people are too lazy or too stupid to figure out something as easy as google then it really is not the job of a particular group to provide you with links.better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
It's their choice whether they wish to share something or not, it's not their obligation to give everyone some pathetic modification.So their job is just to distribute hacks only?If some people are too lazy or too stupid to figure out something as easy as google then it really is not the job of a particular group to provide you with links.better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
Then better let them reply who really care about it.It's their choice whether they wish to share something or not, it's not their obligation to give everyone some pathetic modification.So their job is just to distribute hacks only?If some people are too lazy or too stupid to figure out something as easy as google then it really is not the job of a particular group to provide you with links.better share in public if their is no issue to use it.But why is different y-x axis illegal? I literally can't see a problem with that.Because WK used it.
so all can use it.
Show must go on!Hello Tom, yes I know Kakarot had this topic, I was starting to wonder how long it was going to take until he posted it. Conveniently, it seems that your "WK Agent" forgot to show my reply on that topic, here it is:
WK agents say hello (http://i.imgur.com/P39d8gS.png) 8)also krystianoo then used keybinds like hotkeys to switch through different sensitivity settings while ingame.OMFG MK BUSTED
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Autohotkey does not change the game behaviour, it does not change game addresses, it works in any other application. (Notepad, Word, etc...). Unlike what krystianoo did, which was using the cheat engine keybinds to change values in game memory addresses. The use of AutoHotkey in VC:MP is handled like it always was, through server specific rules. CTF specifies very clearly that the only case where its not allowed is the !changepack command. Other servers usually all allow it. Although in my opinion, any server that has a !wep command should not allow it, but that's a discussion for another day.
- Using macros/keybindings to change weapon packs. (Binding the !changepack <1/2/3/4/5/6> command to a 3rd party macros software)
You do realize that everyday, every week, every month, every year, new players come and they get headshot'd and they finally realizes that this game is based on such mods and they leave? do you realize it? and do you know that is why we have less players than 0.3? or are we going to keep our community as it is and do vice war every year and get 200+ players and only half shows up for it and we say wow we are still alive, nothing personal against anyone just adding my thought.I agree and I worry about that aswell. All these people saying that players should be allowed to inject this .dll into their game just because players with a gaming mouse can nearly replicate its behaviour are only thinking about themselves and don't realize what effect such a decision has on the community as a whole. People are always complaining that VC:MP has few players but don't do anything to change that. Just trying to imagine how a VC:MP newcomer would feel trying to adapt to this game. He joins the community and then has to learn about all these these game glitches, bugs, lagg compensation and now has to learn about which mods/.dll's and other files he should download to "improve" his game. So VC:MP at the moment is nothing but a competiton of who knows the best glitches and loopholes and mods/files/.dll's to download. This community is a terrible place for newcomers, it doesn't give them any incentivation to continue playing. Who'd even want to join such a community? I doubt many would, if they knew about all of this when they're about to join.
we'd have to evaluate each .dll that each player uses and determine if it's a cheat or not.(https://i.imgflip.com/ihzt3.jpg)
Exactly, we wouldn't even have a feasible way to do this.we'd have to evaluate each .dll that each player uses and determine if it's a cheat or not.(https://i.imgflip.com/ihzt3.jpg)
Which simply won't be happening, I can guarantee you that.Allowing players to use the tool, is arming them with an .asi/.dll loader, because there's no other way to load the .dll. What makes you so confident they wouldn't use it to load other .dll files into the game?
What I meant was that nobody will be honest about what kind of crap they are using.Yep, agreed, which is why I said we wouldn't have any feasible way to do it.
Player A would say: "I just downloaded mod B that uses a .dll but it does not contain cheats, I promise!". Then it would be up to admins to go investigate said mod and said .dll. That is, assuming the player is even speaking the truth.Since you started to play NSA by reading private messages from their BNC why not to force all players of your server(s) to install remote control software at their PCs. Then admins will *investigate* all mods of players xD
Hilarious.Player A would say: "I just downloaded mod B that uses a .dll but it does not contain cheats, I promise!". Then it would be up to admins to go investigate said mod and said .dll. That is, assuming the player is even speaking the truth.Since you started to play NSA by reading private messages from their BNC why not to force all players of your server(s) to install remote control software at their PCs. Then admins will *investigate* all mods of players xD
You making total bullshit from a typical gaming mouse feature because it, oh, using "game's memory". What the fucking your business about how players fixing their axis sensitivity in their own PC, buying $100 mouse or just using free software.The only reason those "typical mice" are even allowed in professional competitive play is exactly because they don't touch the game's memory....
The only reason those "typical mice" are even allowed in professional competitive play is exactly because they don't touch the game's memory....There is no differences in result. And there is alot of ways to cheat w/o any .dll.
So if we allow people injecting .dll into their game (which vcmp devs don't), where do you draw the line? Which .dll are allowed and which aren't? And how do you identify them and what each do? As I said above, we have no feasible way to do this.The only reason those "typical mice" are even allowed in professional competitive play is exactly because they don't touch the game's memory....There is no differences in result. And there is alot of ways to cheat w/o any .dll.
You're making bullshit from nothing.
So if we allow people injecting .dll into their game (which vcmp devs don't), where you do you draw the line? Which .dll are allowed and which aren't? And how do you identify them and what each do? As I said above, we have no feasible way to do this.Allow/disallow anything you want. I only judge by the result - by gameplay. If it's impossible to detect, then is nothing to talk about. You are server's creator but still thinks (wants?) you can control client, it's a critical mistake of ANY network software development.
You are server's creator but still thinks (wants?) you can control client, it's critical mistake of ANY network software development.I don't know who told you that, but I have been coding for a living and from all the products I've been involved in so far, that has definitely not been the case. You usually prepare/develop a product (in this case a vcmp server) for a client according to what you know the client can do. In this case you don't know what the client can do because you allow him to load any .dll he wants to. It's unexpected behaviour. Therefore you need to validate the clients' actions and impose some ground rules.
I don't know who toldBasic security rule. You able to control only input of your server.
In this case you don't know what the client can doPlayer can use mods of collisions/animations w/o .dll, in this case you don't know what the client can do. I can say more - you don't know what the client can do in any case.
Therefore you need to validate the clients' actions and impose some ground rules.You can't *validate* local client actions. Being server owner you can validate input of your server only.
But that's the thing, you can't control the input of something you are not expecting, like unknown behaviour caused by loading player .dll files.I don't know who toldBasic security rule. You able to control only input of your server.
Exactly, and you think that allowing players to load additional .dll is going to help with that? It's just going to make it worse.In this case you don't know what the client can doPlayer can use mods of collisions/animations w/o .dll, in this case you don't know what the client can do. I can say more - you don't know what the client can do in any case.
Of course, what I meant by clients' actions was: Clients' actions on the server, which means input.Therefore you need to validate the clients' actions and impose some ground rules.You can't *validate* local client actions. Being server owner you can validate input of your server only.
Try to look on you from side. What are you trying to proof? .dll is bad? OK. How about IMGTool.exe? txd Workshop.exe? GTAAnimManager.exe? Omg hacking software. Ban! You wants to control player's PC but you even unable to control your mind.Trying to prove that letting players load unauthorized .dll in a multiplayer game is bad. Why is it unauthorized? Because vcmp devs have also removed the option to load .asi files which are pretty much the same.
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But that's the thing, you can't control the input of something you are not expecting, like unknown behaviour caused by loading player .dll files.Yes, you can't control, like collisions/animations mods too.
Exactly, and you think that allowing players to load additional .dll is going to help with that? It's just going to make it worse.Nope, I think to judge by gameplay (and some serverside and clientside scripts). But not by fact of *.dll using.
Of course, what I meant by clients' actions was: Clients' actions on the server, which means input.input - bytes client sent to your server. Player's PC/game's memory is not under your control.
Trying to prove that letting players load unauthorized .dll in a multiplayer game is bad. Why is it unauthorized? Because vcmp devs have also removed the option to load .asi files which are pretty much the same.So editing of game's files is authorized? Devs not protected it. Try to think yourself to draw the border of *cheating* instead bringing authority of vc-mp devs and their actions of .asi or anything else.
What I dont get is,why does such config files lay on client side editable?Cant you guys figure a way out of this?I mean,aimbot wasnt a thing back at 0.3,but now it is.Just think about it.True, the files should be made non editable and sensitivity should be set to default on loading.
I don't use hacks, hacks use me. O0What about non catholics? ::)
Merry Christmas, catholics.
Nope, I think to judge by gameplay (and some serverside and clientside scripts). But not by fact of *.dll using.Prevention is better than the cure. Saying that everyone is free to load any .dll's is just asking for trouble. You're too naive if you think it won't be abused.
Player's PC/game's memory is not under your control.Where do you think client scripts are stored? They're stored in each client's PC memory, guess what, every time you create a variable in a client script, it's stored in the clients' memory, you're manipulating the client's memory, you're controlling it in a safe environment.
So editing of game's files is authorized? Devs not protected it. Try to think yourself to draw the border of *cheating* instead bringing authority of vc-mp devs and their actions of .asi or anything else.I'm not saying that the only things which devs protect are the the only ones that shouldn't be allowed, it was simply another reason to demostrate that letting players load whatever .dll's they want to is a bad idea.
NewK can you just stop arguing please! cause you're turning around and around and around (x Infinite) the same fucking idea without giving anything strong !That's funny, this coming from a guy who said this:
I can confidently say that the majority of you, even pretestants, use this kind of method...Yet, still failed to provide any proof of it. And you call me the sophist lol. You wouldn't even be posting in this thread if this didn't involve a member from your clan.
Prevention is better than the cure. Saying that everyone is free to load any .dll's is just asking for trouble. You're too naive if you think it won't be abused.Prevention by making drama from leaked irc logs via your clan mate? Nice *anticheat*. I never said *won't be abused*. There is no any reason to think that. I said you can't control it. It's you are too naive if you think this topic will stop any cheater.
Where do you think client scripts are stored? They're stored in each client's PC memory, guess what, every time you create a variable in a client script, it's stored in the clients' memory, you're manipulating the client's memory, you're controlling it in a safe environment.Wow you're so smart. Sure, theoretical it may be *hacked* in future, but it can help to detect some hack already. Anticheat is an arms race during whole lifetime, not just disallowing to use *.dll in your server rules. The balance it important here, but it looks you unable to understand it.
I'm not saying that the only things which devs protect are the the only ones that shouldn't be allowed, it was simply another reason to demostrate that letting players load whatever .dll's they want to is a bad idea.Nah it's just appealing to authority to protect silly idea of marking any *.dll as cheat in the public opinion.
<&Defend> Admin WiLs0n` banned =TRC=sevrin for 2 Years, 8 months, 22 days [Reason: Modding his game]How about krystianoo?
How about krystianoo?
Prevention by making drama from leaked irc logs via your clan mate? Nice *anticheat*. I never said *won't be abused*. There is no any reason to think that. I said you can't control it. It's you are too naive if you think this topic will stop any cheater.This topic won't stop anyone who wants to cheat, that was not its purpose. It was made to expose the tool to the community, and appeal to servers to explicitly disallow players loading additional .dll files into their game.
Wow you're so smart. Sure, theoretical it may be *hacked* in future, but it can help to detect some hack already. Anticheat is an arms race during whole lifetime, not just disallowing to use *.dll in your server rules. The balance it important here, but it looks you unable to understand it.I agree, anti-cheat is never going to work 100%, but just because you can't detect the aditional .dll files loaded by players, doesn't mean you should allow it.
Nah it's just appealing to authority to protect silly idea of marking any *.dll as cheat in the public opinion.Because if you allow only some .dll but not others, you have no way to identify which ones should be allowed or not. Once again, we have no feasible way to do it.
Get me logs of krys adding dll files in his game then you will have what you want and rest of his enemies, don't think i am doing it because i have anything against you all, i just did my duty, if anyone got problem, keep it to yourself.<&Defend> Admin WiLs0n` banned =TRC=sevrin for 2 Years, 8 months, 22 days [Reason: Modding his game]How about krystianoo?
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<&Defend> Admin WiLs0n` banned =TRC=sevrin for 2 Years, 8 months, 22 days [Reason: Modding his game]
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you can't detect the aditional .dll files loaded by players, doesn't mean you should allow it.So why you are not against no-grass mod? Alot of people using it and you almost unable to detect it too. Why no drama about it? Know what? Most of servers allowing it because *its unable to detect*. My option no-grass is a cheat (little but still cheat). What do you say about it?
Get me logsAsk newk why he kicked kryst from ctf since you agree with him. Or you don't ? :)
I do agree with him, but hey, he's running his server and i am running mine, nor he can tell me what to do nor i can tell him what to do. :)Get me logsAsk newk why he kicked kryst from ctf since you agree with him. Or you don't ? :)
Sure, but you can ask him why he kicked kryst and do your duty :)I do agree with him, but hey, he's running his server and i am running mine, nor he can tell me what to do nor i can tell him what to do. :)Get me logsAsk newk why he kicked kryst from ctf since you agree with him. Or you don't ? :)
Why it's my duty to ask him? who i am? his boss?Sure, but you can ask him why he kicked kryst and do your duty :)I do agree with him, but hey, he's running his server and i am running mine, nor he can tell me what to do nor i can tell him what to do. :)Get me logsAsk newk why he kicked kryst from ctf since you agree with him. Or you don't ? :)
Why it's my duty to ask him? who i am? his boss?Nah, your duty is to do same as he did since you agree with him.
If he thinks kicking krys is right, sure he can do it for his server, but i am not kicking krys. do i make myself clear?Why it's my duty to ask him? who i am? his boss?Nah, your duty is to do same as he did since you agree with him.
He kicked kryst for injecting in game's memory (you agree with him to call it as cheating) and you won't kick kryst for cheating. Yes it's clear.If he thinks kicking krys is right, sure he can do it for his server, but i am not kicking krys. do i make myself clear?Why it's my duty to ask him? who i am? his boss?Nah, your duty is to do same as he did since you agree with him.
I am against it. There was a topic posted on the CTF Staff section discussing it a few months ago and I made very clear on that topic that it wasn't allowed. CTF Staff members know about this.you can't detect the aditional .dll files loaded by players, doesn't mean you should allow it.So why you are not against no-grass mod? Alot of people using it and you almost unable to detect it too. Why no drama about it? Know what? Most of servers allowing it because *its unable to detect*. My option no-grass is a cheat (little but still cheat). What do you say about it?
If any addotional dll is bad because u can't control it why any .img/.txd editing is not bad? One can cheat using it too. And you can't control it.
Thanks for reporting. Seeing as Krystianoo has confessed he will receive the same punishment as the others.
Ban all Vcmp players and close Vcmpyou can't detect the aditional .dll files loaded by players, doesn't mean you should allow it.So why you are not against no-grass mod? Alot of people using it and you almost unable to detect it too. Why no drama about it? Know what? Most of servers allowing it because *its unable to detect*. My option no-grass is a cheat (little but still cheat). What do you say about it?
I am against it. There was a topic posted on the CTF Staff section discussing it a few months ago and I made very clear on that topic that it wasn't allowed. CTF Staff members know about this.So will you ban people who have talking about they are using no-grass mod? Even if they are VU?
When it comes to .txd files, it depends on how they're used. It's almost undetectable too just like you said, but it's far harder to detect those .dll files and .dll can provoke far more damage than .txd files.How much damage will be from cheater depends only of him. If I can't even detect he is using any dll or not - I have no problem to allow to player fixing axis sensitivity using any method he wants. It not means I allow him to use same methods to cheat. But It's useless to write rule "please do not use xxx tool bcz omg you can make aimbot using it".
Fuck Vcmp, fuck hackers
Ban all Vcmp players and close VcmpSure It's not cheat since it popular cheat. And being aganist popluar cheat is bad bcz omg people using it already. Better solution for you - go love yourself. Don't even try to cover yourself behind backs of "all players".
Si no problem
Or u just leave this game better solution for you.
Don't cry here get a lifeTell it to NewK, in his own eyes some of VU is cheaters too (no-grass mod).
If you are pointing this to me, yes i use green less mod and i started using it recently because i heard it was allowed in all the servers. I saw most of them using it and i was always at the receiving end, so i was forced to use it too. I ddnt know it was not allowed in ctf server but i was using it whenever i joined ctf in the recent days. Atleast i ddnt do anything which was disallowed by vcmp devs.Don't cry here get a lifeTell it to NewK, in his own eyes some of VU is cheaters too (no-grass mod).
See how you all fucked up now?
Better to see yourself first and whome you supportingThe evil?
If you are pointing this to me, yes i use green less mod and i started using it recently because i heard it was allowed in all the servers.It's not about you, alot of VU using it. Its about VU's logic.
I saw most of them using it and i was always at the receiving end, so i was forced to use it too. I ddnt know it was not allowed in ctf server but i was using it whenever i joined ctf in the recent days.People who using axis-fix can tell equal thing.
Atleast i ddnt do anything which was disallowed by vcmp devs.Stop your appeal to authority of *devs* please. You even not understand what you talking about at all. "Get me logs of krys adding dll files. Oh it's just a cheat engine, it's not a hack".
And vito are u arguing because you are supporting the culprits of this topic or because u urself were using this tool the whole time?I arguing because I see alot of idiots here making bullshit. I see no any *culprits* here. And yes only one vc-mp hack I ever used - it's txd mods of no-grass and laser snipe dot in LW nearly half year ago.
http://www.wkvcmp.ru/chlenix.htmBetter to see yourself first and whome you supportingThe evil?
http://www.wkvcmp.ru/chlenix.htmCongrats you did your best (https://viceunderdogs.com/Themes/ViceUnderdogs_XMAS/images/ratings/braindonor.png)
go and take chlenix there u have asslicked a lot to them.
i am sure they will gib u .
Why are u pointing VU for it while there are countless other players using it.If you are pointing this to me, yes i use green less mod and i started using it recently because i heard it was allowed in all the servers.It's not about you, alot of VU using it. Its about VU's logic.
Why should i stop that? Bcz it proves ur statements wrong? Who said Krystianoo isnt guily of what he did, he was punished fairly by NewK and krys accepted it without any objection while you are blabbering around trying to support the culprits who themselves doesnt give any complaints about it.Atleast i ddnt do anything which was disallowed by vcmp devs.Stop your appeal to authority of *devs* please. You even not understand what you talking about at all. "Get me logs of krys adding dll files. Oh it's just a cheat engine, it's not a hack".
Why waste your time to argue for bullshit posts then?And vito are u arguing because you are supporting the culprits of this topic or because u urself were using this tool the whole time?I arguing because I see alot of idiots here making bullshit.
Why are u pointing VU for it while there are countless other players using it.Because here VU mainly blaming *hackers*
Why should i stop that? Bcz it proves ur statements wrong? Who said Krystianoo isnt guily of what he did, he was punished fairly by NewK and krys accepted it without any objection while you are blabbering around trying to support the culprits who themselves doesnt give any complaints about it.Because there no point in any discussion if you don't think yourself. So you are going to leave EAD like ferrari did in EC because the cheater (Krystianoo) is not kicking from there? Fairly? I see.
Why waste your time to argue for bullshit posts then?I like it as many others here. It's human nature to throw a shit to each other.
Because there no point in any discussion if you don't think yourself. So you are going to leave EAD like ferrari did in EC because the cheater (Krystianoo) is not kicking from there? Fairly? I see.a) hotkeying sensitivity =/= editing things made uneditable by VCMP devs
a) =/= b) EA/D didn't exist yet c) XD d) I'm using CE forDon't worry kryst, I am not aganist you, you falled in your own shit (and VU who using no-grass too).
So you are ignoring the other ppl like Wrblix, juan, smok3, zee etc and pointing towards VU alone? After all this is VU's forum and what do u expect VU members to do? sitback and enjoy the show by shutting themselves up and accepting whatever u say? You are out of your mind vito.Why are u pointing VU for it while there are countless other players using it.Because here VU mainly blaming *hackers*
I have already talked to the staffs and made a topic abt it yesterday itselfWhy should i stop that? Bcz it proves ur statements wrong? Who said Krystianoo isnt guily of what he did, he was punished fairly by NewK and krys accepted it without any objection while you are blabbering around trying to support the culprits who themselves doesnt give any complaints about it.Because there no point in any discussion if you don't think yourself. So you are going to leave EAD like ferrari did in EC because the cheater (Krystianoo) is not kicking from there? Fairly? I see.
You were referring to those "many others" as idiots in your previous post and u like what they are doing? I dont see a difference btwn those ppl and u then.Why waste your time to argue for bullshit posts then?I like it as many others here. It's human nature to throw a shit to each other.
i see you have argued against my pointsIs it looks there is any point to do that?
So you are ignoring the other ppl like Wrblix, juan, smok3, zee etc and pointing towards VU alone?They are just follow VU position. Don't cover yourself by behind their backs.
I have already talked to the staffs and made a topic abt it yesterday itselfSo you're leaving?
lol not my leaving topic, i see thats what u want me to doI have already talked to the staffs and made a topic abt it yesterday itselfSo you're leaving?
I understand you, from your position no any difference may be seen.
no vito, i just find it funny you're trying to argue against people but don't respond to what they say yourselfI see no any reason to argue against such *arguments*. You're already trapped in your own hacking-drama shit.
so you're like a troll, no point in talking to you
lol not my leaving topic, i see thats what u want me to doI want to show to you your own standards of justice. Nothing more.
If u were in my position what would u do vito?Totally in your own shoes with VU tag, knowledge and so on? Obviously same as you doing.
(I hope not)I am sure yes.
No, u "vito" with your own brain is in my position as a staff member, wat would u do?If u were in my position what would u do vito?Totally in your own shoes with VU tag, knowledge and so on? Obviously same as you doing.
No, u "vito" with your own brain is in my position as a staff member, wat would u do?Then I would had very tiny and useless discussion with wilson and leaving. But fortunately I've evaded it already.
so go and ban ur friend zerul first using hacks + speed gearAre you still here? Try some ice.
Anyways, watching Haitians blaming Cubans for hacking would be a toast though.You may thank me now. 8)
i still dont know why u ppl cant get over this vw thing. If haitians wanted to win we could have easily restricted ON guys from applying with a fair reason and nobody would have questioned us. No ONs mean no wk and most of the ppl who applied after them which lead to the long 5 page clan less applications thread which was stuck at 2 pages. Lets just think that all cubans and haitians played fairly, still cubans would win unless haitians numbers were the same as of cubans.(I hope not)I am sure yes.
i still dont know why u ppl cant get over this vw thing. If haitians wanted to win we could have easily restricted ON guys from applying with a fair reason and nobody would have questioned us. No ONs mean no wk and most of the ppl who applied after them which lead to the long 5 page clan less applications thread which was stuck at 2 pages. Lets just think that all cubans and haitians played fairly, still cubans would win unless haitians numbers were the same as of cubans.Could've, would've, should've. I'm afraid the possibilities you mentioned didn't happen, as instead, Haitians were very confident that they would win, till the very end even after WK and co applied, thinking they're better than last time (don't tell me you didn't).
i still dont know whyIt's human nature again. When people were raped they need to find someone to blame for that. It's not rational thing to be discussed with logic.
saving hacker and crying to ban hackers go and put some ice .Wait but it exactly what you guys doing here.
saving hacker and crying to ban hackers go and put some ice .Wait but it exactly what you guys doing here.
Yupp you are correct, but none of us expected such less participation from haitians who applied.i still dont know why u ppl cant get over this vw thing. If haitians wanted to win we could have easily restricted ON guys from applying with a fair reason and nobody would have questioned us. No ONs mean no wk and most of the ppl who applied after them which lead to the long 5 page clan less applications thread which was stuck at 2 pages. Lets just think that all cubans and haitians played fairly, still cubans would win unless haitians numbers were the same as of cubans.Could've, would've, should've. I'm afraid the possibilities you mentioned didn't happen, as instead, Haitians were very confident that they would win, till the very end even after WK and co applied, thinking they're better than last time (don't tell me you didn't).
If i'm blaming anyone for our loss, that would be haitians itself for the reason i mentioned abovei still dont know whyIt's human nature again. When people were raped they need to find someone to blame for that. It's not rational thing to be discussed with logic.
If i'm blaming anyone for our loss, that would be haitians itself for the reason i mentioned aboveThen you should to beg axxo about fpslimit for your 20fps guys for playercount before anything. You guys tested VW long before the announcement, you're created it, you're host and lose it. Few times in row. How it's possible? Ah... hackers.
Blind grouping
This is a major problem.When a group of people take a side,they just wont care about the facts.They will keep ignoring.There is a clear example:Russian/ON side vs Anti-Russian/ON side.
When we look at the Russian/ON side,they are mostly like I mentioned before
Favoritism
Yeah that happens most of the times in servers.People show favoritsm for those who are their friends or someone they can benefit from.Might that be,reports,admin applications etc.There are countless amount of this .
its not just bcz of fps limits, i ddnt see more than half of the applicants joining the server. Yes we lost it a few times, why? Bcz we made the events fair for both the teams, if not we would have won easily.If i'm blaming anyone for our loss, that would be haitians itself for the reason i mentioned aboveThen you should to beg axxo about fpslimit for your 20fps guys for playercount before anything. You guys tested VW long before the announcement, you're created it, you're host and lose it. Few times in row. How it's possible? Ah... hackers.
I have a perfect topic for ppl like u vitoCool, I've seen it before. I happy you able to see it at least from side. Ofc you will ignore such things in VU too, but as I said before... human's nature. It's not any news for me because I learnt about it when I was young.
so why ignoring this to save on and wk which gave u hack too.There is nothing to ignore about that drama of ON, it was clearly hacks. But please don't project to me your own values in your conclusions.
clearly say that they gave you hacks that's why you asslicking them .
why?Sure, it's because you've invited old respectable people of *community* to your side. Not players.
"such things in VU"? can u elaborateI have a perfect topic for ppl like u vitoCool, I've seen it before. I happy you able to see it at least from side. Ofc you will ignore such things in VU too, but as I said before... human's nature. It's not any news for me because I learnt about it when I was young.
What more do we want than a fun gameplay with our friends? Winning comes afterwardswhy?Sure, it's because you've invited old respectable people of *community* to your side. Not players.
"such things in VU"? can u elaborateWell for example VUs behavior in this topic about NewK before kryst's case and after it, before NewK's words about no-grass and after (look at lazer's shit)
Winning comes afterwardsI see.
I dont see any change before and after, can u correct me pls"such things in VU"? can u elaborateWell for example VUs behavior in this topic about NewK before kryst's case and after it, before NewK's words about no-grass and after (look at lazer's shit)
I dont see any change before and after, can u correct me plsI can't. If while reading this topic you have not seen anything strange with lazer's behavior around me after no-grass stuff or wilson's reply of kryst case - nobody can't correct you. But it's ok.
If u cant correct me it means what u said about "such things in VU too" is a non senseI dont see any change before and after, can u correct me plsI can't. If while reading this topic you have not seen anything strange with lazer's behavior around me after no-grass stuff or wilson's reply of kryst case - nobody can't correct you. But it's ok.
If u cant correct me it means what u said about "such things in VU too" is a non senseIf I were able to correct you then it (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7727.msg90284#msg90284) would be a non-sense. But alas it's true.
but u werent able to correct me and it is not non sense.If u cant correct me it means what u said about "such things in VU too" is a non senseIf I were able to correct you then it (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7727.msg90284#msg90284) would be a non-sense. But alas it's true.
but u werent able to correct me and it is not non sense.You're unable to see favoritsm in your own group. It's exactly your quote about http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7727.msg90284#msg90284
But the Anti-Russian/ON side are mostly the people who contributes to this community and are good people
We are a group to contribute something good to the community not to make it toxic unlike the group u belong to.So you are the good and you are against the evil? It's changes everything.
permanently
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chance to improveYep, 2 year 8 months is enough to improve hacking skills. Different servers, different rules.
permanentlyCode: [Select]Admin:[ VU.Amal ] Banned:[ [TR]^RetroS18^[TR] ] Reason:[ hp hacks ] Duration:[ 5 day(s) ]
Any other 3rd party programs or anything that affect the game play in any other way for your advantage are strictly prohibited, except when stated otherwise by admins.
The usage of the green-less mod falls under CTF's rule of "Unlawful modifications (Modifications that give you special advantages.)"I assumed this was clear for CTF players, maybe it's my fault for not specifying it clearer to the public the same way I specified it to CTF Staff members. However, it is very understandable for players to think this is allowed given that others servers allow it. Also, seeing as we're talking about a .txd and not a .dll (which can provoke far more damage), ban durations for people that use the gree-less mod will obviously be nowhere near as the other bans. Seeing as Lazer and Amal have already said they use it, a 3 day ban has been issued for both. This just goes to prove that it doesn't matter if we can detect it or not. When we have honest players like Lazer and Amal who take responsibility for their actions and admit to what they've used, then we can take administrative actions.I am against it. There was a topic posted on the CTF Staff section discussing it a few months ago and I made very clear on that topic that it wasn't allowed. CTF Staff members know about this.So will you ban people who have talking about they are using no-grass mod? Even if they are VU?
Alright vito, that is your opinion, I've already stated why I don't agree with you and I could do it once more, but I don't wish to repeat myself any further.When it comes to .txd files, it depends on how they're used. It's almost undetectable too just like you said, but it's far harder to detect those .dll files and .dll can provoke far more damage than .txd files.How much damage will be from cheater depends only of him. If I can't even detect he is using any dll or not - I have no problem to allow to player fixing axis sensitivity using any method he wants. It not means I allow him to use same methods to cheat. But It's useless to write rule "please do not use xxx tool bcz omg you can make aimbot using it".
I always banned newbies with less number of days. Anybody who steps into vcmp for the first time will think that other players are hacking. A second chance should be given for these kinds of players to understand the game betterpermanentlyCode: [Select]Admin:[ VU.Amal ] Banned:[ [TR]^RetroS18^[TR] ] Reason:[ hp hacks ] Duration:[ 5 day(s) ]
The usage of the green-less mod falls under CTF's rule of "Unlawful modifications (Modifications that give you special advantages.)"I assumed this was clear for CTF players, maybe it's my fault for not specifying it clearer to the public the same way I specified it to CTF Staff members. However, it is very understandable for players to think this is allowed given that others servers allow it.I dont usually check ctf forum since im not active in the server and i've never bothered to check the rules since i have a feeling in mind that im playing fairly. The only reason i would take a server's forum to check the rules would be for rockets(to check whether fs is allowed or not and the range) but i dont use rocket much and so dont bother to check it. Anyways i will be cautious from now on.
About wrapping up, these are my remarks:
- I believe servers should not be okay with their players injecting .dll's into their games after VCMP devs "blocked" this.
- I believe servers should also not be okay with players using 3rd party tools to edit game memory
- I do not agree with the logic of "if we can't detect it, we should allow it". Following this logic means asking for trouble. It's chaotic.
Also, seeing as we're talking about a .txd and not a .dll (which can provoke far more damage), ban durationsHow about to judge by factual usage, not by potential of used method "may provoke"? It's more fair, isn't? Just my option.
supported krys for usingIf that support was as 'using cheats' or 'sharing cheats' - yes, ban them too. For sharing maybe even more.
Rofl, community looking at my actions? but community doesn't give a single flying fuck about hackers. very nice.supported krys for usingIf that support was as 'using cheats' or 'sharing cheats' - yes, ban them too. For sharing maybe even more.
However you're boss in you're own server do as you want. But don't forget the community is looking at you too.
Rofl, community looking at my actions?Yes actually. You're owner of most popular VU server.
It's funny, you didn't answer my whole quote.Rofl, community looking at my actions?Yes actually. You're owner of most popular VU server.
It's funny, you didn't answer my whole quote.There is 18 pages of fucks already, wilson :)
18 pages, of ban krys and give you what you want.It's funny, you didn't answer my whole quote.There is 18 pages of fucks already, wilson :)
Get me logs of krys adding dll files in his game then you will have what you want
18 pages, of ban krys and give you what you want.I feel the casino will win in any case.
- I believe servers should not be okay with their players injecting .dll's into their games after VCMP devs "blocked" this.So, using AHK to modify mouse axis sens without touching game is allowed? Since it is system wide modification and doesn't touch game mem addresses. Just asking because I can make that and want to make sure if it is allowed.
- I believe servers should also not be okay with players using 3rd party tools to edit game memory
- I do not agree with the logic of "if we can't detect it, we should allow it". Following this logic means asking for trouble. It's chaotic.
These things getting highlighted now only, nobody really cared about these stuff much until Bishop suspected and banned WK's from 0.3 xe then phenomz got caught and he got banned too but nobody really asked Riders and Izaki from where they've got that hack.18 pages, of ban krys and give you what you want.It's funny, you didn't answer my whole quote.There is 18 pages of fucks already, wilson :)
i'll ban those who are spreading these hacks day by day and claiming themselves as a pro.
VU server rules bro.
I agreeThese things getting highlighted now only, nobody really cared about these stuff much until Bishop suspected and banned WK's from 0.3 xe then phenomz got caught and he got banned too but nobody really asked Riders and Izaki from where they've got that hack.18 pages, of ban krys and give you what you want.It's funny, you didn't answer my whole quote.There is 18 pages of fucks already, wilson :)
i'll ban those who are spreading these hacks day by day and claiming themselves as a pro.
VU server rules bro.
Thing with cheat engine so Yuri all time used it for adding spaces to his nicks, it gives no advantage so far, still you guys acting stupid against it, there's asi loaders, I can bet mostly uses it and used it for loading asis that make gameplay good and smoother and some of them deliver unfair advantages too as well, nobody really banned or objected it when everyone know that main source of hacks were started from asis only,
This game is dying already, we ourselves including WKs and krystianoo and everyone tried their best and still trying to keep it alive by giving this game a lot time and by entertaining everyone in game or in irc, I don't wanna see everyone getting banned because of pity reasons, I respect your effort and Dave's bnc effort here that helped you guys obtaining logs but by doing all this, you're just insist in murdering this game..
So what are you saying is, let them use these kind of things?These things getting highlighted now only, nobody really cared about these stuff much until Bishop suspected and banned WK's from 0.3 xe then phenomz got caught and he got banned too but nobody really asked Riders and Izaki from where they've got that hack.18 pages, of ban krys and give you what you want.It's funny, you didn't answer my whole quote.There is 18 pages of fucks already, wilson :)
i'll ban those who are spreading these hacks day by day and claiming themselves as a pro.
VU server rules bro.
Thing with cheat engine so Yuri all time used it for adding spaces to his nicks, it gives no advantage so far, still you guys acting stupid against it, there's asi loaders, I can bet mostly uses it and used it for loading asis that make gameplay good and smoother and some of them deliver unfair advantages too as well, nobody really banned or objected it when everyone know that main source of hacks were started from asis only,
This game is dying already, we ourselves including WKs and krystianoo and everyone tried their best and still trying to keep it alive by giving this game a lot time and by entertaining everyone in game or in irc, I don't wanna see everyone getting banned because of pity reasons, I respect your effort and Dave's bnc effort here that helped you guys obtaining logs but by doing all this, you're just insist in murdering this game..
A game can't be someone's life, we all join for fun and good times only, if they're using it, it's their life and they want to look superior with all of that, they'll achieve something being at top by cheating they feel like, I believe so, but why we bother, we've got a lot more to care about rather caring about he cheated so that we should investigate and after investigation and spying at private channels, we've found these two names, now they're caught so they'll surely gonna try saving themselves so they mentioned more names, more cheaters being caught and by doing this all, what we got at last is plenty of empty server,
I hate the fact that those who speak in forum much about this game, barely joins ingame and pretend like they know everything, I myself don't know most of the stuff nor I am interested in knowing, I know that those whom I am supporting here probably calls me a dick or a prick on my back but for the sake of this game, I posted this, I know that I can't really find another community like which was and still is like a family to me and I'll never want to see my mates getting banned again, all I can say is devs should take some measures in next update of vcmp and leave everything as it is,
I know that too, that you'll stick to your words but I don't really think so that you'll be happy after putting a lot time an effort in scripting a server and then paying for the host and seeing it empty :)
lets just leave VCMP in past and move on(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtDXC0MY.gif&hash=610f5c6e5611353ca7c2010879dbe6fce6a18731)
thats what santa would say
Fake Santalets just leave VCMP in past and move on(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtDXC0MY.gif&hash=610f5c6e5611353ca7c2010879dbe6fce6a18731)
thats what santa would say
And so, taking into consideration all of the things that have been discussed here, what specific actions would you recommend server managers to take?These were the actions I took for the CTF server and the ones I recommend. (http://ctf.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=741.msg4135#new) I appeal for server owners to try to see past any differences they might have with any of these players and not apply any type of permanent or long bans. I believe that anyone who gets banned should be allowed to play once again as long as they comply with their punishment. I'd also like to ask to anyone who is thinking about using these types of tools to simply ask server owners first, whether it's allowed or not. This whole thing could've been avoided like that.
How about to judge by factual usage, not by potential of used method "may provoke"? It's more fair, isn't? Just my option.I already explained why, I think you understood me, you just didn't agree with me. As I said I really don't wish to repeat myself any further.
However looking at people who were banned for 2 years and another one who even wasn't kicked from staff for same act - injecting in game's memory by same admin - It's useless to trying to find any fairness here.You can't expect me to go look at all the previous server bans since the server's creation to make a decision on something that just recently happened, for the bans you find that you think are exaggerated there's also those that aren't, and if you're going to consider the past bans that were exaggerated, then I ask you to consider the ones that were not aswell.
So, using AHK to modify mouse axis sens without touching game is allowed? Since it is system wide modification and doesn't touch game mem addresses. Just asking because I can make that and want to make sure if it is allowed.Indeed AHK is just like mouse drivers, doesn't touch the game's memory and its settings can be applied system-wide. Although I still don't find it to be 100% fair to all players, as long as it doesn't touch the game, it's pretty much the same as using mouse drivers to do it. So yes, it's allowed.
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;D
I already explained why, I think you understood me, you just didn't agree with me.This is not a fair criteria at all.
You can't expect me to go look at all the previousIt's not about you, it's about double standards of VU server in case of this drama. Your topic was just a formal reason to ban SOME of people who injected in game's memory. And do NOTHING with their friends who did same.
I can read whole of his post but when NewK posts very long explanation of something with his great vocabulary, I get my brain rekt.(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2Fm957qv.jpg&hash=81d5773713e9f9bb39947201cbf191e26c274396)
;D
We can understand it's hard to comprehend logical arguments when you have don't have this magical piece of flesh, namely "brain".
I get my brain rekt.
You call it VU server, ofc it is VU server, but you are not telling them that you left staff because WK brain washed you.WK also recruited Fercho to be asshole. Good job WK. You can use any arguments to keep the double standards. But as I said before - the community is watching your judgment.
Like you all don't give a fuck about your mods, i kindly from bottom of my heart, don't give a fuck about community, community can kiss my ass.You call it VU server, ofc it is VU server, but you are not telling them that you left staff because WK brain washed you.WK also recruited Fercho to be asshole. Good job WK. You can use any arguments to keep the double standards. But as I said before - the community is watching your judgment.
ok.Like you all don't give a fuck about your mods, i kindly from bottom of my heart, don't give a fuck about community, community can kiss my ass.You call it VU server, ofc it is VU server, but you are not telling them that you left staff because WK brain washed you.WK also recruited Fercho to be asshole. Good job WK. You can use any arguments to keep the double standards. But as I said before - the community is watching your judgment.
Insult my clan mate once more, then i'll show you how it likes to be insulted.Insult? He asshole and you clearly saw it and kicked him for that. If it's "insult" - go ahead.
Oh just like WK is bunch of hackers? you complain about fercho's admin action's, but you are blind to see that your asshole friends editing their games and calling themselves best fighters, oh my ass.ok.Like you all don't give a fuck about your mods, i kindly from bottom of my heart, don't give a fuck about community, community can kiss my ass.You call it VU server, ofc it is VU server, but you are not telling them that you left staff because WK brain washed you.WK also recruited Fercho to be asshole. Good job WK. You can use any arguments to keep the double standards. But as I said before - the community is watching your judgment.Insult my clan mate once more, then i'll show you how it likes to be insulted.Insult? He asshole and you clearly saw it and kicked him for that. If it's "insult" - go ahead.
You call it VU server, ofc it is VU server, but you are not telling them that you left staff because WK brain washed you.WK also recruited Fercho to be asshole. Good job WK. You can use any arguments to keep the double standards. But as I said before - the community is watching your judgment.
Oh just like WK is bunch of hackers? you complain about fercho's admin action's, but you are blind to see that your asshole friends editing their games and calling themselves best fighters, oh my ass.You can call WK hackers, you can blame me ignoring problems with your oh saint clanmate, you can ban me because, I am *maybe hacker too*, you can do everything and get your (https://viceunderdogs.com/Themes/ViceUnderdogs_XMAS/images/ratings/tick.png) favoritism. You're support NewK, you're banned sevrin for 2 years and did nothing with your kryst and making bullshit to cover him. It's showing everything for me. I was right when I left this policy (as Siezer did too). You need only people who will support any bullshit you like. For me it's wrong direction, but you're boss there.
Why the hell are you dragging all these thingsWilson doning, try to read this page. Why? To cover his double standards. As he said - community can kiss his ass.
And so, taking into consideration all of the things that have been discussed here, what specific actions would you recommend server managers to take?These were the actions I took for the CTF server and the ones I recommend. (http://ctf.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=741.msg4135#new) I appeal for server owners to try to see past any differences they might have with any of these players and not apply any type of permanent or long bans. I believe that anyone who gets banned should be allowed to play once again as long as they comply with their punishment. I'd also like to ask to anyone who is thinking about using these types of tools to simply ask server owners first, whether it's allowed or not. This whole thing could've been avoided like that.