Vice Underdogs
Archive => Vice War VII: Biker Brawl => Archived Events => General Discussions => Topic started by: GangstaRas on June 28, 2018, 11:05:04 am
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Vice War 7 has been successfully resurrected and it's finally around the corner! As such, on behalf of the Vice War Staff, the time is ripe to discuss among our participants on some pertinent issues to ensure that this Vice War is fun and fair for all.
UID Mismatch
UID mismatch was mainly implemented as a means to prevent ban evasion as within the community it is a rampant issue where you will ban an account and he/she does their trickery and rejoin the server couple minutes later, free to spawn and disrupt the rest of us having fun. However, because of the strictness of this system, we have hindered quite a few of our legitimate fan base as the months progressed. Some of our staff members have agreed that the ruling is too strict. Today, I am in a good mood so this is what will happen to the currently afflicted:
- Those that are currently banned twice for UID mismatch, as of today June 28, 2018, we will unban those accounts.
- Those that have been banned once already, as of today, your record is reset.
HOWEVER
The rules stipulated here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9525.msg119232#msg119232) and here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9524.msg119230#msg119230) are still in effect. That means, everyone still only has ONE UID unban chance and we will NOT unban anyone on the day of the event. This is the last week and a half left until Vice War commences and we would like for everyone that have waited patiently throughout the seasonal drought to get a chance, but this isn't any free for all, the system must and will remain intact for ban evaders. If you still get yourself struck twice for UID mismatch after this, you will definitely miss Vice War without remorse. Again, let me go over what will lock your account for UID mismatch:
- You register your account on one installation of Windows but rejoin the server on another installation of Windows. Even if the Windows are the same versions, it can still strike a UID mismatch.
- You register your account on one PC but rejoin the server on another PC. The PC you register from should be the PC you play from.
- You upgraded the Windows system you used to register on the server (upgrade to a entirely different version of Windows or service pack upgrades such as Windows XP to SP1 > SP2 > SP3, or Windows 8 to Windows 8.1)
So, upgrade what you need to now, fix what you need to now, get the PC you plan on playing Vice War on now and register. If you get banned on the day of the event, even if you still have one UID unban chance, we will not unban you.
Hackers
Many folks have expressed their anxiety about what's going to happen regarding Vice War 7 and hackers, some have even expressed loss of hope and are now holding a position refusing to participate in this year's Vice War as despair in the community is now at an all sky high limit. Today, I am announcing that we will be doing an undisclosed cleanup of every gang and every member that has been accepted to participate in Vice War. This is the one of the last barriers we've made to ensure that Vice War is as hacker free as possible.
Some have already been barred and did not make it past registration while others, we have allowed them beyond registration willingly. Be not discouraged, this didn't mean hackers will be able to play. Some have even been good during the registration period and hacked immediately after the period, some have been secretly hacking all this time under alias, keeping their main accounts clean.
The Vice War Staff has not rest, carefully watching the community for near 7 months now, watching them do as they please around us. So, everyone that has hacked since 2018 started, i.e. January 1, 2018 to today, and till the very day of the event, will be banned from participating in Vice War without remorse or chance. Decisions made on some individuals in 2017 have not been relinquished, they are special cases and they know who they are. The rest however were silently given a second chance the starting of the new year to this day.
All bans have been attested, freely assessed and validated by the entirety of the VW Staff. Bans were given to individuals that:
- Distributed hacks and were active conspirators
- Aimlocked within the period, whether caught or detected
- HP hacked within the period, whether caught or detected
- Used trainers within the period, whether caught or detected
- Speed hacked within the period, whether caught or detected
- Used teleport hacks within the period, whether caught or detected
Aliases and UID changers were also tracked and will be banned as well.
This ban is not permanent however, participants that got banned from VW7 can still apply for VW8 coming December. With the rise of developer activity, we hope robust solutions are found and will be implemented by the time VW8 is scheduled to arrive.
Away from hacks, we will also be banning double accounts. We have documented sibling relationship some of the double accounts but the undocumented ones will be banned and banned immediately unlike the hack list. If you are wrongfully banned in these cases, you need to provide the following information:
- Nick of sibling
- Official server(s) he/she plays on
We will handle the rest from there. You will remain banned if we have deduced that you're lying.
We hope to see you all July 7th! Remember the event starts 00:00 GMT, please work out the time and date according to your specific timezone but as a general idea of when to check the server:
- US, Caribbean, South America - Friday 6:00 PM
- Europe - Friday 11:00 PM
- Africa - Saturday - 1:00 AM
- Asia - Saturday - 2:30 AM
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1 question , i got banned for UID mismatch twice , you mean that people like me who had 2 uid mismatch ban will get unbanned?
- Those that are currently banned twice for UID mismatch, as of today June 28, 2018, we will unban those accounts.
- Those that have been banned once already, as of today, your record is reset.
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1 question , i got banned for UID mismatch twice , you mean that people like me who had 2 uid mismatch ban will get unbanned?
- Those that are currently banned twice for UID mismatch, as of today June 28, 2018, we will unban those accounts.
- Those that have been banned once already, as of today, your record is reset.
Yes lucky boy, now try to maintain the same until VW7 because chances like that won't happen again ;)
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Just to be clear, does this mean that every player who has been caught with cheats such as aimlock are banned from participating in this VW?
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Just to be clear, does this mean that every player who has been caught with cheats such as aimlock are banned from participating in this VW?
from january 1 to the day of the event, yes it does - they are banned from participating in this edition.
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1 question , i got banned for UID mismatch twice , you mean that people like me who had 2 uid mismatch ban will get unbanned?
- Those that are currently banned twice for UID mismatch, as of today June 28, 2018, we will unban those accounts.
- Those that have been banned once already, as of today, your record is reset.
You've gotten caught cheating this year already. You're banned either way.
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1 question , i got banned for UID mismatch twice , you mean that people like me who had 2 uid mismatch ban will get unbanned?
- Those that are currently banned twice for UID mismatch, as of today June 28, 2018, we will unban those accounts.
- Those that have been banned once already, as of today, your record is reset.
You've gotten caught cheating this year already. You're banned either way.
This is correct. It came to my attention that you have been banned for aimlock. So I didnt bother unban your account effectively. Everyone else that had UID mismatch issues have been unbanned (they didn't hack AFAIK)
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Also, please note the new rule change here (https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9119.msg123452#msg123452)
We will be auto-banning ANY and EVERYONE who runs ANY type of modifications detectable by the server. You will not be unbanned if you're caught by the server.
Please we urge our participants:
- Do not load any graphical mods
- Do not load any mouse fixes
- Do not load any ASI files at all
The server will ban every single one of them without remorse.
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Do not load any graphical mods
Do not load any mouse fixes
Do not load any ASI files at all
Does this mean usage of VCVE is disallowed?
Even the texture replacements?
Does this mean I cannot use the .dll that makes the mouse not stop when I click the pause button?
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Do not load any graphical mods
Do not load any mouse fixes
Do not load any ASI files at all
Does this mean usage of VCVE is disallowed?
Even the texture replacements?
Does this mean I cannot use the .dll that makes the mouse not stop when I click the pause button?
Any modification that can be detected will get you banned. I won't specify what can and can't, defeats the purpose. So the safest bet is to run an original clean version of GTA Vice City.
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Not going through that trouble.
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Not greenless GangsTaras?
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Not greenless GangsTaras?
I've never done that no greenless mod before, don't know what it requires. So to be on the safe side, I'm gonna say best you do without than with
EDIT:
There will be a 3 kick chance to alert you if anything is up
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Can we get a chance to get in the server for once and test our game if it works well or not?
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Can we get a chance to get in the server for once and test our game if it works well or not?
There will be a 3 kick chance to alert you if anything is up
This is it. At best, we only expect people to have 1 strike but if you want to selectively take out some mods until you see what works, burning out your chances, that's on you.
As we have advised, we recommend an unmodified install of GTA Vice City.
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Why not make a list of legit asi files that server could actually 'somehow' detect and won't ban for it?
I like the idea of being pain is ass for these little shits but this is becomming a little bit unhandy even for those who play clean.
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What about the hud??
Do I really need to play with GTA VC stock crosshair??
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What about the hud??
Do I really need to play with GTA VC stock crosshair??
That's an edit in generic.txd or hud.txd ( I don't remember ), so it should not affect anything unless you're using an asi mod for it or something.
Why not make a list of legit asi files that server could actually 'somehow' detect and won't ban for it?
I like the idea of being pain is ass for these little shits but this is becomming a little bit unhandy even for those who play clean.
Asi files are already disabled to be loaded into VCMP and you probably use an ASI Loader to load them illegally.
So, what legal ASI files do you use and why they are to be used?
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He is talking about something like VCVE, it contains graphics fixes and improvement for the game.
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Why not make a list of legit asi files that server could actually 'somehow' detect and won't ban for it?
I like the idea of being pain is ass for these little shits but this is becomming a little bit unhandy even for those who play clean.
To add to Luckshya's point and to answer more directly, legitimacy cannot be tested. The safer bet is to flag them all and ban them all. Yet another imposing system necessitated due to hackers
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Yes i was talking mostly about visual enhancements. Mostly but i'm not sure what else could it be.
So, what legal ASI files do you use and why they are to be used?
Just aimlock I use none actually. But i tell you after playing the game for more than 10 years i think i could give it a try.
Not going to mention here all the people that use these mods and how many of them won't mind to switch back to vanilla.
The safer bet is to flag them all and ban them all. Yet another imposing system necessitated due to hackers
It's just the easiest way isn't it?
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What about 2dfx then?
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The safer bet is to flag them all and ban them all. Yet another imposing system necessitated due to hackers
It's just the easiest way isn't it?
It is the easiest way but it's not so much about that, more so the nature of the detection. Think of it as a riddle, the answer is often so simple yet so far from our thoughts. The detection method is of a similar nature.
In secrecy and public ignorance, the white listing would've been fine but if the public can "solve the riddle", it is absolutely nothing to get pass, and that is a huge problem, hence the safest method is to ban every single one of them.
What about 2dfx then?
If no ASI, then you should be fine but if ASI and you choose to decline removal (as the case with Brian) then consider yourself banned from the event.