Vice Underdogs
Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Accepted Applications => Topic started by: Sawyer on November 14, 2018, 12:19:01 am
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Nick: SugarX
Age: 20 years old
Timezone/Country: México (GMT-7)
Previous Nicks: [OSK]Knot^ [LKt]Sugar [Fbk]RuCle. [DZ^]Knot^ [MKt]Sugar [SS]Sawyer.
Additional Comments: I've been in the VCMP community for years, perhaps seeing me applying here is surprising hahaha and even more because of my recent SS departure. Along all my experience within this community (different clans) and game I realized there are many communities and very different people to deal/hang with, some of them help you in your upgrowing and maturity but others don't, like SS did. The point is that my career in VCMP is not well-shaped yet and there is not anything else I want that finishing my career in this wonderful crew, with close people, excellent dueling comrades and maybe people that I just say once but that left a good image. I'm really excited to see your thoughts about my application and I'll be grateful if you are honest to me.
Have a good day and thanks!
P.D: If you have any doubt about my previous departures from clans or about SS in especific, you can PM me or talk to me privately and I'll be pleased to answer, not only that, any general doubt will be answered
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How can I trust that you will be loyal for VU after get accepted?Because you left MK in short period after got accepted in order to join SS because lederhos invited you. If I am not wrong you left SS yesterday because of some problems. It's better to answer in public because all of us going to ask the same question. Why you left MK and SS at first place?
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How can I trust that you will be loyal for VU after get accepted?Because you left MK in short period after got accepted in order to join SS because lederhos invited you. If I am not wrong you left SS yesterday because of some problems. It's better to answer in public because all of us going to ask the same question. Why you left MK and SS at first place?
Okay, the reasons for leaving SS and MK are completely different ... and it would be perfect to make it clear as of this moment. The reason why I left MK was because Lederhos invited me at that time to SS, the clan i wanted to join a long time ago, well. entering SS I realize many things... first, something that is not secret, the clan is dead, on the outside (inactive members of the game) both inside (inactive members in the forums, wsp groups, etc. .) the worst of them The fact is that, despite making an effort to face this and move forward, we were just a few members who contributed and with the interest to get ahead (Sanglier, niko and me) no one else was worried about facing the disinterest and going ahead in spite of it. That was the reason for my early departure from the SS.
and that's something that I like about VU, there is interest on the part of everyone, despite being a numerous clan, I like to see everyone participating and being part of the same clan. I want to be part of this. I will support and help as much as possible, knowing that someone else is willing to do the same.
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Good.luck.
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You applied here soon after you left SS. Me as well many other members would like to hangout with you , hoping to catch you in-game , Neutral
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Looooool suerte
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Suerte a la verga sugar!
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Suerte tio
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Heh, good luck fella, seems like you will prove your loyalty for 2 years in row.
Hope you the best, take an eye on leder, maybe he will try to get him from another clan or join with you.
Good achievement!
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good luck dear.
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good luck dear.
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Good Luck My Brother, You are good enough for this clan.
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Gl. :)
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Barely know you, the senario here says that you left SS in a hurry without any solid reason. I'll go with a no because i see loyalty and trust issue.
Fix that and get my vote.
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You seem to be mature enough but what Thomas said , same goes here , it's a No. You wished to join us soon after leaving SS , that counts into clan hopping stuff.
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You seem to be a Mature person and there's no doubt about that...But You applied For our Family too soon.
Be a clanless player for sometime and hangout with us.I'm sure that there will be positive votes for u next time.
NO for this time. :)
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I like your honesty dude, and trying to sort things out by speaking out for yourself. We can seem a little upfront at first but this is all normal. I can appreciate you wanting to grow more as an individual and as a VCMP player in a platform that allows you to contribute a bit more than what you were already doing. There's nothing wrong in finding a place where you feel like you can grow more and showcase your abilities. We do this all the time in our real life when we get a better work offer per say.
So after knowing that, i definitely think you are going to make progress here if you are accepted. My vote is positive, trainee.
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Good Luck!
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It is important to have rules in life. Following them is even more important.
I believe in not trying to disturb any of your former acquaintances' futures; even if that acquaintance burned bridges between the two of us.
What is below is not an attempt to disrupt Sugar's image, but rather an attempt to objectively show, expose what kind of a person Sugar is when speaking of clans. A post based on my little experience I have had.
Back in late June, one of the members came to a conclusion that the clan needs a revival; a surge of fresh blood to make us go again. During that 'revival' project, we discussed what players would fit the clan - many suggestions were made, and one of those was Sugar. (https://i.imgur.com/pbrtFdw.png)
Sugar was in MK at the time, which he left in order to join us.
Sorry-not-sorry Miami Killers - apologies for this (seriously) but given the way Sugar turned out you probably should be thanking us haha!
His stay in the clan was short, because it was around 4 months - the cited reason of departure is lack of initiative, inactivity. This is true - it is no secret that SS is currently very low when it comes to activity - but this is not why this post is made.
What can you contribute to SS?
Si entro aca, pues ya no salgo (If I'm accepted, I will never leave)
and very different people to deal/hang with, some of them help you in your upgrowing and maturity but others don't, like SS did.
The point is that my career in VCMP is not well-shaped yet and there is not anything else I want that finishing my career in this wonderful crew, with close people, excellent dueling comrades and maybe people that I just say once but that left a good image.
Why do you wanna join us? Were you invited?
Porque aquà esta toda mi historia del vc, aquà tengo a todos los amigos que he hecho durante mi trayecto en el juego y claro que me gustarÃa formar parte de esto, con ellos. Si. si fui invitado.
Because here is all my vc history, here I have all the friends I have made during my journey in the game and of course I would like to be part of this, with them. Yes. Yes, I was invited
What can you contribute to SS?
Si entro aca, pues ya no salgo, mis habilidades (necesitan algunos retoques pero todo bien) respeto y ayuda en lo que sea necesario.
If I enter here, then I do not go out, my skills (they need some retouching but all good) respect and help in whatever is necessary.
(via Google Translate. Use a native speaker if in disbelief)
There is no doubt that Sugar only skill-wise, communication-wise could do well in a Rookie or a Full Member position.
HOWEVER what these quotes show is that Sugar is a person who is a story-teller, a person who will tell you anything in order to get where / what he wants. Is a person like that EVEN worthy of your clan's trainee tag?
And this is only mentioning his MK/SS history. Previous clans? Sugar is an opportunist - it is quite likely he left every clan in order to join a currently better one, hence his departure from SS to VU.
Don't let yourself get fooled by promises of eternal loyalty or sugar-coated expressions such as 'excellent dueling comrades' because so far that's what they've only been. Words. Not deeds.
MK believed in his words, so did we - look how that ended up. Is the same going to happen here?
This post isn't a request to you to vote no - I'm just standing up to what I see as wrong - and even though we've had (a lot) of differences I hope we can put them aside for a moment and agree on this matter - or at the very least, discuss it civilly. Nobody loses in that case
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I want to say something straight, do not mind it, I really don't have any personal issues with you, but you don't think that you are changing your clans like clothes? You do not think that now it's hard to believe/trust on you? In my Point of view you need to spend more time with us, and Prove us how we can trust on your loyalty because I didn't see that you're loyal or serious with your old clans. you should be clan-less for some months.
This time going with NO good luck next time cheers!
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krystianoo best i agree
however good luck sugar
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Well, of course, there are always those who come to do drama and want to ruin the application.
Apparently they have a bad (or at least erroneous) concept about me and this clearly does not benefit me. Seeing things so far, this application has no future (speaking positively) It's true, i apply here very fast and that's why all this is happening. :-X
Seeing things so far, i will focus on working to show that they are wrong when they talk about me. But of course, the words remain in the air, right?.
for the same reason i ask you in the most kind way, Respect my app FOR NOW.
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No man we love dramas you can't end it like that >:(
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Heh, good luck fella, seems like you will prove your loyalty for 2 years in row.
Hope you the best, take an eye on leder, maybe he will try to get him from another clan or join with you.
Good achievement!
Like you're the one to judge lol
I'll go with trainee, better for you to start fresh.
Edit: @kry
The trainee position is there to separate suitable and non suitable, so I don't see any harm done if he changes his mind about us. Also at least 60% of the SS roster had a "vu 4 lif3 O0'' phase so your objective opinion is basically normal shit for us. Thanks for the unnecessarily long post though.
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Heh, good luck fella, seems like you will prove your loyalty for 2 years in row.
Hope you the best, take an eye on leder, maybe he will try to get him from another clan or join with you.
Good achievement!
Like you're the one to judge lol
I'll go with trainee, better for you to start fresh.
Edit: @kry
The trainee position is there to separate suitable and non suitable, so I don't see any harm done if he changes his mind about us. Also at least 60% of the SS roster had a "vu 4 lif3 O0'' phase so your objective opinion is basically normal shit for us. Thanks for the unnecessarily long post though.
very nice bro
I'm putting my opinion here since we are talking about my best friend. We both were thinking about leaving SS from weeks back, I was considered an inactive member and everybody started blaming me because I was inactive but still wanted active members in SS (wrong) I am active these days, but SS kept being the same (kry said it) then, Sugar and I, said for once "man we should go to an active clan and stay up there" IT WAS MY DECISION AT THE BEGINNING, but Sugar supported me and understood my reasons, if you want pics or whatever of how the environment in SS was, I can show you. I prepared everything and we both were thinking of coming to VU after leaving SS. About that clan hopping shit, we talking about a practically dead game, there are not many active clans as VU, and Sugar, who complained me many times of feeling unconfortable in SS told me that he didn't know what to do. WE DON'T LIKE DRAMA, we are just two best friends trying to find an active clan, with acquaintances, friends and participative, and we both decided (from long back) to start planning to come to VU, but we just left SS few days back because yes, we were just waiting for the right time. this is not about personal stuff, hard feelings or whatever, we just like this game and as I told in my SS's departure, we still want to grow in this game, and here we are, trying to go forward like in everything. I understand you guys, but we both deeply hope to get a chance, thanks!
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Trainee.
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Good Luck Dude :)
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When I was "dnw" I and others weren't caring about active members, or how we must recruit Pro's to become the most powerful clan ever. We were a group of friends just spending time together, actually not friends but we were brothers, more like a family that seeks for fun and shares funny moments and experiences. Even though only 2 of us were barely active ( me and MasterOz ) I didn't rush to leave the clan. I stayed for a fair amount of time until I left for many reasons ( Moral reasons ) thus the clan was closed, yet we are still close friends. I want you to know that the clan isn't just a group that you can teamup with in shootouts, but the clan is a family, as I stated above...
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When I was "dnw" I and others weren't caring about active members, or how we must recruit Pro's to become the most powerful clan ever. We were a group of friends just spending time together, actually not friends but we were brothers, more like a family that seeks for fun and shares funny moments and experiences. Even though only 2 of us were barely active ( me and MasterOz ) I didn't rush to leave the clan. I stayed for a fair amount of time until I left for many reasons ( Moral reasons ) thus the clan was closed, yet we are still close friends. I want you to know that the clan isn't just a group that you can teamup with in shootouts, but the clan is a family, as I stated above...
It was not a family, just a bunch of inactive players sharing a tag, some few of them were really friends
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Trainee.
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thanks for ur votes, positives and negatives. I appreciate that they are sincere at all.
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We have a pretty bad history with pairs of best friends who apply together, rise up the ranks together, and then leave together. Their primary allegiance (understandably) is to each other, not to the betterment of the clan. I get it. But it's risky.
At the same time, two best friends can do a lot of great things together. If you two were to be involved with managing part of our events, for instance, the likelihood that you do a good job of it is much higher because you know how to communicate and share tasks. Similarly, theoretically you will be better at teaming up in clanwars etc.
So there are pros and cons to accepting two best friends together, and the risk of consequent disruption is high.
In any case, like Ferrari said, the trainee rank is designed to filter out the suitable from the unsuitable. I see no harm in letting you guys in on the trial logic, and I hope to see you emboldening the clan in the ways you purport to have tried to do in SS.
The application is a little soon after your departure from SS, but this decision is logically tied to the decision of Leder, who was there for quite some time. It seems to me the primary motivation for your fast application is not opportunistic clanhopping, but rather taking your VC:MP journey alongside your friend. Your secondary motivation(s) might be opportunism, I don't know, but it's not the most salient issue in this matter.
Voting trainee for you and Leder.
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We have a pretty bad history with pairs of best friends who apply together, rise up the ranks together, and then leave together. Their primary allegiance (understandably) is to each other, not to the betterment of the clan. I get it. But it's risky.
At the same time, two best friends can do a lot of great things together. If you two were to be involved with managing part of our events, for instance, the likelihood that you do a good job of it is much higher because you know how to communicate and share tasks. Similarly, theoretically you will be better at teaming up in clanwars etc.
So there are pros and cons to accepting two best friends together, and the risk of consequent disruption is high.
In any case, like Ferrari said, the trainee rank is designed to filter out the suitable from the unsuitable. I see no harm in letting you guys in on the trial logic, and I hope to see you emboldening the clan in the ways you purport to have tried to do in SS.
The application is a little soon after your departure from SS, but this decision is logically tied to the decision of Leder, who was there for quite some time. It seems to me the primary motivation for your fast application is not opportunistic clanhopping, but rather taking your VC:MP journey alongside your friend. Your secondary motivation(s) might be opportunism, I don't know, but it's not the most salient issue in this matter.
Voting trainee for you and Leder.
Really, thank you for this. For this oportunity and for understanding the whole context without getting out of control
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Trainee for ya bud! ;)
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So far, you've followed lederhos in every aspect, left a clan or two on his request, made decesions on his commandments which I highly detest and for which I am afraid of your loyalty towards next clan.
I'd have voted NO but going for trainee after reading Charley's post. I'm taking this risk for the first time, I'm wishing you start proceeding on your own and in case you don't, you will not be able to see a bright future.
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Trainee for ya bud! ;)
So far, you've followed lederhos in every aspect, left a clan or two on his request, made decesions on his commandments which I highly detest and for which I am afraid of your loyalty towards next clan.
I'd have voted NO but going for trainee after reading Charley's post. I'm taking this risk for the first time, I'm wishing you start proceeding on your own and in case you don't, you will not be able to see a bright future.
Thank you guys :'D
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Trainee!
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Good luck bhai
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I think i have no reason to vote NO if the Higher ups are satisfied.
Changing vote To Trainee.I hope u will not disappoint us :D
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Although I didn't know you except when you were an MK member then joined SS(few months ago),but I've met you many times ingame especially in CTF and you display nice and appreciated skills.Also you seem interested to join the family as your friend too lederhos wants to join the clan.You both will be a nice and important fusion in the clan tbh.
Trainee!
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trainee !
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We have a pretty bad history with pairs of best friends who apply together, rise up the ranks together, and then leave together. Their primary allegiance (understandably) is to each other, not to the betterment of the clan. I get it. But it's risky.
At the same time, two best friends can do a lot of great things together. If you two were to be involved with managing part of our events, for instance, the likelihood that you do a good job of it is much higher because you know how to communicate and share tasks. Similarly, theoretically you will be better at teaming up in clanwars etc.
So there are pros and cons to accepting two best friends together, and the risk of consequent disrupti.............
Voting trainee for you and Leder.
Alright , same goes here , Changing to Trainee.
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We have a pretty bad history with pairs of best friends who apply together, rise up the ranks together, and then leave together. Their primary allegiance (understandably) is to each other, not to the betterment of the clan. I get it. But it's risky.
At the same time, two best friends can do a lot of great things together. If you two were to be involved with managing part of our events, for instance, the likelihood that you do a good job of it is much higher because you know how to communicate and share tasks. Similarly, theoretically you will be better at teaming up in clanwars etc.
So there are pros and cons to accepting two best friends together, and the risk of consequent disrupti.............
Voting trainee for you and Leder.
Alright , same goes here , Changing to Trainee.
lol (https://media.giphy.com/media/1US8fz0jKzpsxxbnhL/giphy.gif)
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Trainee.
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No, I still think you applied too soon and you might leave again if you get invited anywhere else. Sorry going with the same vote for leders aswell.
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No.
I don’t trust you.
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Neutral for now
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What will you do in case lederhos decides to leave in future ?
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What will you do in case lederhos decides to leave in future ?
I trust and maybe you already do... that it will not be like that.. well, it has been loyal in its past history, but in case it happened... I would continue with my path, in my application I explain that my vcmp career would conclude here (of course, if I am accepted)
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I trust and maybe you already do... that it will not be like that.. well, it has been loyal in its past history, but in case it happened... I would continue with my path, in my application I explain that my vcmp career would conclude here (of course, if I am accepted)
This was what I wanted to know It's enough for me.
Trainee Sugarita.
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I trust and maybe you already do... that it will not be like that.. well, it has been loyal in its past history, but in case it happened... I would continue with my path, in my application I explain that my vcmp career would conclude here (of course, if I am accepted)
This was what I wanted to know It's enough for me.
Trainee Sugarita.
Ty man :')
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Trainee for you amigo. Don’t ruin the chance.
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voting
no for obvious reasons O0
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Good luck :police:
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good luck O0
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Poll count:
Full: 0
Rookie: 0
Trainee: 23
No's: 9
Application has been accepted as a Trainee. However, I'll throw a friendly advice, start making decesions on your own, not specifcally talking about current scenario but speaking generally for your future. Be the man of your own words, show us loyalty and VU will give you wonderful things in return.
Please take a thorough review of our clan ethos and constitutions before you start playing as an Underdog. Congratulations and welcome.
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Congratulations Sugar, don't Dissapointed us. ;)
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Congratulations, welcome aboard.
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You are in as you promised us loyalty. Don't disappoint us , Welcome and congratulations ;)
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Thanks ;D I'll check why did not wrong up when voting positive.
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Congratulations! Well deserved!
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Congratulations bhai
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Welcome aboard congratulations
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Congratulations bhai
Bhai still SS
(https://i.imgur.com/x7e2fd4.png)
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Congratulations! Well deserved!
Congratulations bhai
Welcome aboard congratulations
Thank You guys, gracias cabrones :-*
Congratulations bhai
Bhai still SS
(https://i.imgur.com/x7e2fd4.png)
VERY NICE SIGNATURE, can i use it now?
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Congratulations and welcome abroad!
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Congratulations SugarX
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BIEN
VE
NIDO
Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
Deja que te digas cosas al oido...
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Congratulation's .. :)
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Congratz :thumbsup:
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You are in as you promised us loyalty. Don't disappoint us , Welcome and congratulations ;)
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Congratz
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Congratulations, welcome aboard.
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Congrats
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felicidades azukar
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¡Felicitaciones, Zucaritas!
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Welcome to the family sugarX mate.
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Welcome mate!
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Congratulations Bro!
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Welcome to the family dude
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Thank you mates :'*
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Congratulations sug, dale con todo brother.
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*sugar gets accepted*
also me
(https://img.fireden.net/a/image/1512/40/1512409459822.jpg)
welcome bro :-*
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Congrats Dear.
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Congratulations, welcome aboard.
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Congrast ;)
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Welcome to the family dude
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Congratulation.
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Trainee :v
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Trainee :v
Well... I love u yet