I honestly believe that you were long overdue and genuinely deserved your promotion to Full Member back when you were still a VU just for representing and fighting for the clan all on your own for months, let alone the fact that you came runner up in Magna 2021 and were the only one among us (sus) to have achieved as such.

Trainee from me once again, fingers crossed this is the one buddy

I honestly believe that you were long overdue and genuinely deserved your promotion to Full Member back when you were still a VU just for representing and fighting for the clan all on your own for months, let alone the fact that you came runner up in Magna 2021 and were the only one among us (sus) to have achieved as such. Despite this I'm going to have to vote Trainee for now with my sole reason being the fear that any higher rank potentially sparking a negative reaction from our clanmates by my own personal experience.

I wish you the best of luck with the rest of your application buddy

Hey Ulker, since your last application, it's evident that you've reached the hearts of quite significant amount of clan members and with their consent, I would like to extend a warm welcome back to the clan as VU_T. Whatever may have happened in the past should remain there, and together, we are setting sail to forge a brighter future with you by our side.

Welcome aboard!

Thank you so much for your kind words, I really appreciate you all for taking the time to read these applications and giving me this second chance. ❤️

Congratulations Ulker. It's great to see you back, and I hope this experience helps you grow and learn from your past mistakes. Remember, respect for our clan's ethos is essential.

I also want to acknowledge that I stressed my point to my clan mates, and I want to make it clear that I have no hesitation in saying publicly that we should vote for you as a trainee. It's important that you go through the same process as everyone else who have made mistakes & are wanting to join us so nothing should be made easy for anyone in that scenario. Hope that makes sense mate.

It makes more than sense - I completely understand and agree with you. This was never about having my old rank, I'm honestly just grateful to be back.

Maccies on me when I'm in Britain.

If this is truly your only reason then I appreciate that you've forgiven me enough to decide your vote based on other factors. Although I do believe that there is still a point in giving me a chance because I'm active on Discord and games that other VUs are actively playing too. My rating of 5 is how active I am at this very moment, but of course that's going to fluctuate in time with ongoing life events. My 2nd year of Uni is starting soon and these days I spend most of my free time with my gf, but being accepted back into the clan will give a reason to play VC more regularly to climb back up the ranks. Also if it wasn't clear, I'm more than ready to be substituted into the VU roster for this CTF tournament just like I was for the League before.

That's all I'll say for now. None of this is to overly influence your decision making btw, like my reply to Calhoun's post I'm just having an open dialog with you and I hope you realise that too. I still respect your vote either way.

It'll be good for me to reread both of them if I get reaccepted - since they're for VU eyes only - to refresh my memory, but I'll recite what I remember after all this time. The constitution are the rules, (such as the obligation of fair play and well mannered behaviour,) and the ethos are the guidelines, (such as the responsibility of representing the clan the best you can and promoting competition - like VU hosting tournaments and events since it's inception,) to which all VUs must abide by. They mean a great deal to me because they're the founding principles of the Vice Underdogs and are the reason why the clan has stood the test of time for 15 years.

As for the phrase and the banner, I don't really understand why this has all of a sudden become "offensive" to you when I've mostly forgotten and left them unchanged on my profile since year and a half after my departure and even during the whole duration of when I first reapplied. The phrase was coined a long time ago but we, (our roster at the time,) repopularised it during our amazing comeback in the EAD / VCAD League. The meme banner is a fun memory of when PunkNoodle edited the Turkish President and Indian PM onto Charley's infamous banner for me and Lederhos respectively - who I should mention still had his one when he reapplied too.

Frankly I don't see anything wrong with either of these, but despite my opinion I've still gone ahead and removed both of them for your comfort. I hope none of this has offended you any further, I felt that what you said was out of context and filled it in accordingly.

Nick: Ulker / Ulkz0r

Age: 24

Timezone/Country: United Kingdom | GMT ± 0

Previous Nicks: iNs.Ulker, [VU]Ulker and [VU]Ulkz0r

Additional Comments: Hey everyone, I hope you're all doing well.

This time I'm going to keep it short and sweet. I last applied just over a couple of months ago but got denied due from what I was told to be a lack of trust by a considerable number of members because of my application and replies being perceived as dishonest, and some of our private DMs as deceiving. In all honesty I might've come across as a bit too much to some of you and I apologise for that. It was only because I had a lot to get off my chest and I really care about rejoining this family, otherwise I still stand behind everything that I stated - as it is the whole truth.

As I said last time I'm busy with life nower days and don't have as much time for VC:MP like I did before, but to me coming clean about the events of last year and rejoining VU has always been that I needed to do to at least start making things right again. I've left a link to my previous application here for anyone who may not be up to date on everything, or may want to refresh themselves on anything. I think everything was addressed in that app, but if there's anything else on your minds then please be sure to let me know.

Thank you all once again.

I'm not aware to what happens in this forum since I prefer to use Discord most of the time. I didn't know the reason of your departure and didn't care tbh but thinking after what Ferrari has written I'd say no.

I'm very sorry.

It's alright man you have nothing to apologise for and I respect your vote. I just hope you read the app and my responses to everyone too.

As per one of the core values and principles of the Vice Underdogs I would instead urge for everyone to make a well informed decision considering everything presented in this matter. Personally, I don't think that 'trusting every clanmate to do what's right' quite sounds right. I fully believe that each and everyone's own opinions are valuable, and so should be voiced and considered as such - regardless of them being positive or negative.

Quote from: Ülker on May 25, 2023, 03:02:02 pm

As much as I would love to pick up where I left off as a Full Member and a contributing member of the Administration of the clan

There are certain things that you earn back, not ask for them.
You are my good friend but for what you did, I am voting No.

For VU, clan ethos are the first priority and were disobeyed by a full member.
I would say I don’t want it be an example that even if you disobey VU clan ethos you can get back in easily.

I know you're hella busy these days so I apprecate you for taking some of your time to read my app. I understand and I couldn't agree with you more that VU's constitution and ethos should always be our top priority, especially when making important decisions, and I assure you that no matter the result I will continue to uphold these values.

Even if it wasn't meant to be this time around I can promise you all that I won't give up on regaining your trust no matter what, no matter how long it takes.