Actually I wasn't aware that Aki is still active, I thought he had essentially abandoned VC:MP and XE. This does change things.
You are putting personal matters between you and him.Which is completely wrong and leads to nowhere but disagreement for this.
#strictlybussiness
I couldn't agree more. It's been years, and I have no interest in reviving any personal battles between Aki and I. So let's talk, strictly business.
Imagine that you help run a business, let's say a nightclub. You're responsible for DJing at the nightclub, and as part of a team you have a hand in running every other part of the business. While you are there DJing and helping run the place it is the most popular nightclub in town. Every night it is full of people enjoying themselves, dancing, drinking, 1v1ing, whatever. For some reason, you can't manage the nightclub anymore, you have to leave for a while, so the nightclub is left under the control of one of the other managers, a man with a dubious history, but nonetheless one who knows the nightclub very well indeed.
A couple of years after you left, you come back, and find that the nightclub is closed.
Hmm, that's strange, how long has it been closed for? You wonder. You ask around a little, and find out that after you left, the nightclub started losing customers, the music started to suck, and eventually the whole place became so rundown that the management decided to shut it. A year ago, you hear, the management said that they were going to redecorate the nightclub, and with the help of a new DJ open again.
How exciting! But it never happened. They had a 'taster' weekend, but when customers went in the speakers kept cutting out, and the music was crap.
Now I wonder, in this situation, would it be wise to try and revive the old nightclub, with the old manager, the one who ran the place into the ground, in control? If one man ran the nightclub so badly that all the customers left, and the nightclub had to close, would you trust him as a decent business partner?
#StrictlyBusiness
I personally want a diversity of gamemodes in VCMP, rather than plain old DM. It would be great if the intended efforts are put in:
- RPGDM with gang territories, inventories, treasury. This would be a really complex script but would stretch VCMP to it's limits.
- Two team Death Match like SvM or ViceLegends.
This is a very valid point, however, we have to understand the limits of the VC:MP community. EA has pretty much everything you mentioned and more. It is a server that has the backing of the official VC:MP dev team, it is synced up to the web, and really does everything many of us dreamed a VC:MP server would do. However, it has not taken off. The sad reality is that for a server to maintain a high playercount around here, it has to be simple. Most VC:MP players can't even speak English. In fact EA has that covered too, there's an option to run the game in a different language, and yet still nothing. It seems there's something in VC:MP players' psychology that will not allow for a server with dynamic, interesting features to be dominant, so we have to be realistic.
It will be a direct competition to EC which might result in a split player base. EC and XE are almost same as far as the gameplay is concerned. Both the servers will lack the epic clusterfuck massive wars if the player base is split. It would be nice if only one of those server exists. Since, EC is already established we should let it keep the prime position.
Yes indeed, splitting the playerbase would be a great shame. However, there are aspects of gameplay in XE that EC in its current setup just can't match, in my opinion. The clusterfuck massive wars seem to always be located downtown, usually around the bikers' bar, because of the spawnloc feature. By limiting spawn locations, XE allowed for the big battles to move locations. One day they may be at the bikers' bar, the next by the FBI HQ, the next at the army base, the next at Prawn Island.
EC is a fantastic server, in my point of view, with very dedicated and decent staff. But it is not XE.
Xtreme Elites was originally a clan that has been non-existent in a decade. Why do you want to continue it's legacy?
Another good point, but it's not the clan's legacy that we want to continue, it's the server's. Like I said before, XE grew to be a brand, an ethos, and the number of people who never speak on this forum piping up or voting in this thread shows, I think, that it still carries a great deal of weight.
last but not least - XE. if both sides (team Charley and team Akiharu) do not come to a consensus on how to revive/initiate this project, then XE will follow ULK's footsteps and you'll have the choice of playing on either XE 1 (OFFICIAL SERVER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE) and XE 2 (SINCE 2003 MORE OFFICIAL THAN OFFICIAL SERVER XE 1), that's my view on it anyway.
Haha, yes indeed that would be a sorry situation, and it is making me consider whether or not this is a good idea - something I still haven't really decided on. However, if Aki and George have had this long to open a new server, then why should we think that they will? This topic wouldn't exist if they had produced something, but in reality, they haven't, and there's no real signs that they will.
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Having said all this, I'm still in two minds about whether this is a good idea or not. Drake is on-board for scripting, but we'd have to have a dedicated team of managing admins to do the rest. If there are still a lot of players who put their faith in the old XE, then this will not feasibly be possible. I'm not looking to struggle or to fight here, I'm looking for the community to bring back something many of us loved. There is support in this thread, but perhaps it's not enough.