Vice Underdogs
Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: ripmemes on December 09, 2018, 07:49:51 pm
-
To begin with, my father agreed to buy me an additional 2GB ram for my desktop computer (3GB ram in total) as my birthday's gift, I was hyped and rushed to run VW8 test and just was shocked by the results;
the first 3 tests results are the same while test 4 decreased by 8 fps from the last test to become 23.This further implies that I am facing graphics lag, to confirm that, I went to singleplayer and tested it: Indeed, there was a slight decrease of fps with graphics lag. Had the same problem with GTA3, and I fortunately fixed it by setting frame sync to on which made the game smoother than before.
I am just wondering if there is a VCMP command (like frame sync) to tweak graphics options and make my game better.
(I just figured out that lowering the res fixes the FPS but yet I am facing graphics lag especially when I witness too many NPC cars while driving, note that this only happens to me in singleplayer, I expect it to be smoother on multiplayer tho')
-
Ask your dad to buy you a better gpu instead.
-
Well, Instead of making fun of him, we should help him solve his issue. Tbh, the day I started vice city I had a Pentium 3 with 2 GB ram and no idea about GPU and it was laggy as fuck but I know nothing about fps so I played it like it was nothing and kept playing till I come to know about the thing that is called lag. So I would suggest you to collect some money and buy some good gpu.
-
The fact is, I am pretty sure you have got an AGP graphics card - due to which, you'll eventually have to change your motherboard, ram, processor, power supply to change the GPU. So you either try lowering your resolution to 640x480, or you cannot play.
Increasing your ram in a game like GTA:VC, which uses less than 1GB, won't change anything.
-
It is not about GPU, my game was running fine, then I come to have this problem. Well, my thoughts about this community seem to be wrong, I thought I am asking experts, mature people, who would be pleased to help others but ofcourse no.
I was right, this community is pure toxic, and would never improve, because of people like you, trying to find silly reasons to bully someone. and the majority of its leaders( not all, there are admins and players that I completely respect ) act like they are great veterans while they can't lead a finger up their asses to pleasure themselves.
Ok, I no longer need any help, and no it is not about GPU, because I explained everything above.
Do something useful for your lifes and stop mocking of people you don't even know them.
Lock this topic.
-
Removed shit replies. Let's just help this guy for once...
Like other's have said, RAM is not the issue for VC. It's either your CPU or GPU that's the bottleneck. VC don't need much ram.
Post some more specs about your PC.
-
3GB ram
Intel Pentium D CPU 3.40GHZ 3.40GHZ
Nividia GeForce 7300 LE
Windows XP SP3
Here is a photo of my specs:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/415924898079178752/521757582570946562/unknown.png)
-
I'd say check if there's any update for your GPU drivers, or either re install GTA:VC. Your graphics card is shit, but it seems to be pretty enough for VC.
Or.. I used to have FPS drops when I had viruses into my pc, which made my proccessor to be used at 100%. Check the Task Manager and be sure the CPU is being used normally (like 15/20% on idle).
-
Did you try using fresh copy of windows? and if it’s still same, eliminate the possibility of malware otherwise check for it. I remember having something pug.exe or something which made my gameplay shit slow with low fps. Something was eating memory and disk space kind of stuff.
-
Did you try using fresh copy of windows? and if it’s still same, eliminate the possibility of malware otherwise check for it. I remember having something pug.exe or something which made my gameplay shit slow with low fps. Something was eating memory and disk space kind of stuff.
Can you please tell me about good antivirus/antimalware for windows XP? that I can elliminate the malware with?
-
Did you try using fresh copy of windows? and if it’s still same, eliminate the possibility of malware otherwise check for it. I remember having something pug.exe or something which made my gameplay shit slow with low fps. Something was eating memory and disk space kind of stuff.
Can you please tell me about good antivirus/antimalware for windows XP? that I can elliminate the malware with?
try anti-malwarebyte for now.
-
--Piracy is not supported on this forum--
-
Its your GPU but not in the sense that everyone explains. That GPU should be enough to pass as far as I know, given the resolution isn't high and you did back then. What I'd attribute the sudden change to be is either overheating of the card (so now its throttling slightly) or it needs a reseating (the AGP connection to the motherboard got bad overtime). My bet is the latter.
Happens to me to this day, sometimes my GPU for whatever reason adjusts and the PC either cant start or starts slow. When I check GPU-Z, my PCI-e connection states x4 or x1 when it should be x16 for full bandwidth, full speed. Taking out the GPU and putting it back in solves the issue so I'd check that. That GPU cant run any general purpose processes like mining, so there should be no virus that can affect it, it should pretty much always be idle until you run a game.
-
get windows 7, it has updated drivers for Chipsets and better directX compatibility.
-
so, what should I do? I must take out the GPU and put it back?
I can confirm my computer is infected, will anti-malwarebyte clean it?
I think I am in need of a full-time antivirus.
-
Reinstall Windows again, preferring to install Windows 7. Even if anti virus manage to clean your PC but it won't speed up your game.
-
Reinstall Windows again, preferring to install Windows 7. Even if anti virus manage to clean your PC but it won't speed up your game.
My father doesn't want me to re-install the OS...
-
Reinstall Windows again, preferring to install Windows 7. Even if anti virus manage to clean your PC but it won't speed up your game.
My father doesn't want me to re-install the OS...
Convince him dude, that's a edited / bad copy of Windows from what I can see..
Here's a original's one link that I used for more than a year and had no problems:
https://softlay.net/operating-system/windows-xp-sp3-iso-full-version-free-download.html
-
Windows XP has been deprecated for a while now, so viruses are the least of your concerns.
If your father doesn't want you to reinstall, then grab an free anti virus solution (Like Avast) to at least clean it up a bit.
If you're still running windows XP without any kind of anti virus you should be asking yourself if you want that PC connected to the internet.
You're probably in hundreds of botnets, mining coins and sending spam to people.
-
I personally have problems with avast, I am thinking about McAfee or AVG.
I'll try all of your solutions once I get back from school the next day. Thank you all for your advice :)
-
so, what should I do? I must take out the GPU and put it back?
Yep, simply take it out, probably remove some dust around the connection and place it back in. Hopefully that should do the trick
-
Kaspersky
-
grand theft auto vice city multiplayer requires a gpu ?
A very easy method you should follow reinstall your windows and yeah there is a administrator running behind which is called task manager there you can set up all your tasks your pc does.( most of the people use antiviruses on slower processors which are the actual reason that ruin up your pc performance be ware about that.)
since pentium D is slow comparing to todays modern softwares but it is enough to run vice city just look after the tasks your pc is already running when your windows start which im afraid you dont even know they are taking place( discord , your antiviruses ,torrent , your skype and many other things start when you turn on the pc and they have high impact on performance mostly people dont really think about that and they complain why they get microstutters and lag on there pc). Most of the roleplay games or open world games are actually based on CPU since vice city graphics are of 90's so dont worry about the gpu mate .
for Video display use lower resolution like 1024 x 786 and yeah i will recommend that upgrade your ram a little bit more (4 to 6 GB )and you will find a smooth running vice city.
cut it dont buy anything look after for your tasks because im sure your pc is working more on them than your games.
-
and yeah there is a administrator running behind which is called task manager there you can set up all your tasks your pc does.( most of the people use antiviruses on slower processors which are the actual reason that ruin up your pc performance be ware about that.)
Dude, Task Manager is for managing (killing / stopping / freezing) processes, not for setting up tasks for PC. You set them by yourself. If you don't really know too much about PC, please better stay away from there..
Yeah, also right, you can look up for some useless processes in Task Manager that might be eating your CPU / RAM, but keep in mind to google the process you wanna kill because you might end up killing a system process and end up in a BSOD till restart.
-
and yeah there is a administrator running behind which is called task manager there you can set up all your tasks your pc does.( most of the people use antiviruses on slower processors which are the actual reason that ruin up your pc performance be ware about that.)
Dude, Task Manager is for managing (killing / stopping / freezing) processes, not for setting up tasks for PC. You set them by yourself. If you don't really know too much about PC, please better stay away from there..
Umm...
(https://i.imgur.com/HDiekHt.png)
-
Downloaded malwarebytes, launched a scan and deleted identified threats. In addition, I turned on V-sync option in my video card setting and slightly lowered the resolution, I noticed improvement of FPS but is not fixed yet.
I decided to defragment hard drive but I faced this error:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/415924898079178752/523847211113644033/unknown.png)
searched on google but I couldn't find anything, I'm afraid that malwarebytes detected some of my system files as malware, help...
-
Umm...
(https://i.imgur.com/HDiekHt.png)
That too, but it is irreleveant for whatever Tim said
-
Downloaded malwarebytes, launched a scan and deleted identified threats. In addition, I turned on V-sync option in my video card setting and slightly lowered the resolution, I noticed improvement of FPS but is not fixed yet.
I decided to defragment hard drive but I faced this error:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/415924898079178752/523847211113644033/unknown.png)
searched on google but I couldn't find anything, I'm afraid that malwarebytes detected some of my system files as malware, help...
I told you, I highly bet that OS is broken / corrupt, as I said, if I would be in your place, I would do a smart trick like backing up the important stuff that I and my father would need and install that clean copy of windows xp I gave, and set it up myself and after, showing and explaning my father whatever he should use and not, or ask me before installing anything or going throught anything he might not be aware of.
-
Get your own pc.
-
Get your own pc.
^ Also that, but I'll make a list if you're a such cheap-money guy on a guide for which components to buy and not. Stay tuned.
-
get Windows 7.
-
Backup your files and convince your dad for a new OS. Otherwise, start saving some $$$ and make it upto 250-300$
-
so, what should I do? I must take out the GPU and put it back?
Yep, simply take it out, probably remove some dust around the connection and place it back in. Hopefully that should do the trick
Did you do this yet? if so, present to me a picture from GPU-Z of your GPU
what I'm looking for is this:
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr201%2Fwinglesshuman%2FGPUZPCIe20.jpg&hash=6b5fb4e772a89b6b7ccd20163918231fd3bec6d6)
Yours would say AGP, and if it's at full speed, it should say x8 I believe. If it's slower, this is your issue
-
Didn't do it yet, I have to argue with my father for some time...
-
Okay, there comes the PC buying parts guide, so prepare ass:
First of all, if you have enough money or if there are second hand stores too, you might consider buying used components too that works. Their price shall not be that high thus if you have common sense, you can clean them after and shall run like new. Okay so let's start with it:
KIT (Mobo + CPU combo)
First of all, I would recommend looking for a Kit that includes a Motherboard too, in this case, take a look for the AMD FX-8350 / 6350 since that CPU is pretty much the least AMD's cheap CPU to support many titles from todays somewhere around Low - Medium Settings in game. A good combo / kit it would be with an ASUS / ASRock / GigaByte motherboard. There could be others too but I don't really know if they would be that good. Anyways, look up for kit FX-8350 / 6350. However bear in mind that the CPU I mentioned is also power hungry. So if the electricity bills are something quite strict or high there in your place, then maybe an Intel CPU might be a good choice too. In this case, look for a Kit that has an intel i5 3400 or 2500. Their neither really expensive.
Also, another very important thing to note is that when you look for the motherboard specs, it should have PCI Express 3.0, as GangstaRas mentioned so you can enjoy the maximum performance with your graphics card in games and so on. So, from what I know, the i5 2nd gen mobos usually got 2.0, so watch out.
Also, if you're lucky enough, you might also find kits that could come with RAM Sticks too, such as 4GB, but I highly recommend 8GB for nowdays stuff..
If not, come to this one too:
RAM Memory
When it comes at this critical part too, make sure you're getting some proper RAM Memory Sticks such as 2 sticks of 4GB RAM (4X2 / 8GB) if you can afford to, or if not, then look for 2 sticks of 2 GB RAM (2X2 / 4GB).. Keep in mind to pick DDR3 ones and for desktop, not laptop since there are RAM sticks for laptops too and also look for ones that got a 2400Mhz frequency around too so you won't have any performance issue too in games. However be aware with the sticks since their very fragile and can get broken easily if you touch them from the bottom golden / yellow part..
Also, the main reason why I recommend you to buy 2 Sticks is not to have any bottlenecks that can keep your sweet performance away, especially their bandwidth is higher, the better is, to go for 2 Sticks as Dual Channel.
Graphics Card
I highly recommend for such system a GTX 750 Ti since it is the very good least budget graphics card that even has ShadowPlay software that can allow you to record at 60FPS at 1080p regardless of the Computer Specifications..
Another good alternative it would be an HD 7870, the 2GB variant is all good.
HDD / SSD
This one plays a very important role there too especially for the storage and so on. In this case, if you can afford, look up for any good SSD with somewhere 128GB around for the System Installation drive and also an HDD with for storing purposes, especially recordings, so for this case, look for a 512GB (1TB if better) HDD. Keep in mind their both different disks, the SSD one is way faster than the traditional HDD but it is quite expensive, but not very (depends on the storage size) and the Normal HDD with its normal speed. At the HDD part, look for 7200RPM ones since their way faster than the 5400RPM.
PSU (Power Supply Unit)
For all this, I recommend a 400-450W Power Supply if you don't need any RGB lighting decoration and such. Also, go look for the rate, I recommend as minimum Bronze as 80+ (Gold rate 80+ if better, for especially in performance). There are more rates too, such as Plantimum, Titanium and Silver too but it is quite expensive (Silver one).
PC Case
This is Optional if you wanna set for yourself a new PC up. I recommend you to look up for any Medium Size Case, not large nor small one.
Monitor
This is also optional, I recommend you to look for any good 1080p monitor such as one with 5ms as minimum, and a 24 inch one or lesser if the budget doesn't reach you or you have a small desk.
For input, you can also go or VGA or even HDMI. However, VGA is the cheapest option.
I guess that's the most I could suggest for a good budget PC to hold still for a good while. About Accessories, such as mouse or keyboard, you look for any that's comfortable for your hands..
Also, make sure to look from which online stores / online second hand shopping website you're looking for. You may also ask others too for opinion about any good SH products selling website so you might not end up getting scammed.
Also, if you manage to get all this, congrats, now for the system, give it a go with Windows 7 / 8.1 64 bits (both are good), instead of Windows 10. Good Luck. :thumbsup:
-
If it's a possibility that you can upgrade your pc, and your money is way too low, get an A6 (preferably newest ones) combo and that's it. I think it's able to run VC properly.
-
@GangstaRas it is x16, GPU is not the problem.
for other people I'd reply later as I'm in hurry now.
I think I know the reason for lag, it is related to my soundless problem, I found that when I was playing GTAIII (causing chaos and killing leones as usual) I felt that sounds were a bit choppy so I decided to change the audio hardware option from miles (the default one) to d3sound emulator (the same one as vice) I noticed obvious lag with weird cars behaviour (bouncing up the ground/same behaviour in VC:SP) and when I reverted back to miles, the lag was vanished.
I went to "DXDIAG" to find sound acceleration bar was at its full, and changed it to basic (the option I put to fix my soundless problem) then I opened my game: FPS was a bit improved but still there is lag and FPS drops from times to times. I think if I disactivate directX acceleration (resulting in no sound) it would fix the problem.
Edit: FPS problem fixed, but no sound, I think this is an alternative solution until I change my OS
-
@GangstaRas it is x16, GPU is not the problem.
for other people I'd reply later as I'm in hurry now.
I think I know the reason for lag, it is related to my soundless problem, I found that when I was playing GTAIII (causing chaos and killing leones as usual) I felt that sounds were a bit choppy so I decided to change the audio hardware option from miles (the default one) to d3sound emulator (the same one as vice) I noticed obvious lag with weird cars behaviour (bouncing up the ground/same behaviour in VC:SP) and when I reverted back to miles, the lag was vanished.
I went to "DXDIAG" to find sound acceleration bar was at its full, and changed it to basic (the option I put to fix my soundless problem) then I opened my game: FPS was a bit improved but still there is lag and FPS drops from times to times. I think if I disactivate directX acceleration (resulting in no sound) it would fix the problem.
Edit: FPS problem fixed, but no sound, I think this is an alternative solution until I change my OS
Oh yeah I had the same problem - actually it was on a good PC, I was getting seriously low fps in busy areas of the map. Someone (Brian I think?) told me to change the sound engine (or something like that) in the VC audio options, and it fixed it entirely.
-
Sound engine? Can you explain further sir?
-
Sound engine? Can you explain further sir?
In the game options under sound tab you can choose how the sound is being rendered, it normally should be set at D3 sound or something similar. If it's set at RAD Tools it will slow down game performance by at least 60%.
-
It is set at d3sound software emulator, can't select any other option except RAD but yet the game still lags. Before, I couldn't hear any SFX sounds due to my sound card not having a buffer (according to Rockstar) so I added directX sound acceleration to fix the problem. First there were no FPS problems then I come to have issues after adding 2GB ram...
I can't know why software sound buffer is making my game lag :-X
-
My advice is to save to buy a PC, nothing difficult or borrow someone from your family's gaming computer to play the VW ::)