The conclusion that I get from Krystianoo is that whoever takes the responsibility over this action(devs included), It still might not be the best idea to just leave it to the people that has to take decisions for this with no given evidence or examination methods. I can agree to this part. Its always open to dabate for trusting anyone's administration experience. Because everyone have a different glimpse of what they see before them even though they agree in the end for a specific reason.

But then you should realize that it's a community driven game mod. None of these developers work at Rockstar Games. They're just trusted people to run things.Push updates etc. Same for admins. They have to be trusted to take these decisions and move on. As I said, administration experience for everyone is always open to discussion. But someone has to do it if this will take the community anywhere better. Later on, you see the results and make another discussion if it's necessary.Interrupting an attempt to solution with "if"s and "what about"s is just waste of the time. What Gangsta does with these evidences is reasonable.

Good luck with your work Gangsta.

Hunting,just make sure to read these and see a doctor.You have atleast one of these

Alzheimer's Disease - Diagnosis and Treatment

Mental Illness

I just went through all of the comments.And I completely agree that its not open to debate for such a deal.But also you guys are going too much over Morphine.I'm not saying it just because he can't take that all,in fact he can.That's just his point of stand from his very character over VCMP.That's why he's a different mind,and also thats why people have servers with different rules and playerbase.He does what he believes is more efficient.It doesnt make him any bad.You just cant force people to change their opinions.

So server managers/scripters are going to do whatever they like.Most of them will take actions regarding the major opinions given here and some of them will make deals with the hackers.And I believe that's okay.Because we also have VCMP devs that would definetely work for the betterment of anti-cheat.So everybody is going to move on.

I strongly recommend an account system to login the client and open VCMP.And some client-sided updates.Like the verification of files before opening the game.

Tbh there should be more thought into this system, thus far it's causing issues.

I guess those VW keys are probably being generated from a hash function and goes directly to valid keys table without one-to-one relation(Means those keys are not matched to a single user when generated and sent to database and categorized for the group).So I can use a key which was sent to another person and this key belongs to me since I matched it to myself.If that's the case,its quite bad.

Yes,GangstaRas.I didnt mean to ruin your work.I know all I can do is talk.But you are the one who took the responsibility and I appreciate that.Because not everybody is able to successfully pull this off.So it's good for you to recieve opinions to go on.So if we're okay with that,I'd like to continue to explain.

First,the problem is not "flags".Everyone out here can find a way to make them as we're not in 90s.There tons of websites to create your own logo with given tools for free.

The problem is not with the numbers(weapon costs,flag renewal time etc.).Because it will always be unbalanced and balanced for one to other.You just cant please everybody.You know how to find a middle ground.

The problem also is not about how many gangs would be created and how many people would be on the roster.I agree with everything you said about this.

However,what I find as flaws are basically belongings and recruitment.

While it was not a thing to recruit people,everyone except the black list was able to apply to the teams where they felt more comfortable and there were no denying them.Because as I said before,Everyone is able to join that specific event.

But with that recruitment , it's up to a group leader or a management circle to decide either the player is in or out.It's not cool for someone who just started to play VCMP and found out there is a massive event going on,or someone who is hated by everyone,someone who is the only active member in his/her clan and cant feel comfortable within any other group or someone like me who is retired but seeks out for these very special events but nobody know him .

I really hope this works out and I be damned.Untill then,good luck to all the staff members. 

These gang rules are just way off of a Vice War in general.I always thought it meant a massive fight between two teams and that's how it's done in all events.This does not help smaller groups of people let alone clanless players and definetely not fun.

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Quote from: Hanney on June 25, 2017, 08:58:32 am

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I know what you're talking about, its just like 0.3 where if you get bumped in someone, that player would have a bumping animation and stop there for a second with hands in punching action. and other player would shoot from a distance. this is really annoying because you get stuck and can't move until that animation gets completed.

Adding another point, you can't jump to cancel that animation while you can cancel most of the animations even fall animation.

0:38 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=65hqEex5Jto


I dont know if thats the same as 0.4.I also recall doing that with crouching.

I will have some of my concerns about the dm but first I really like to know something.

Can you explain in full depth the way how client and the server keeps themselves updated in VC-MP servers?How often is that  happening during in-game?Is the "packet loss" actually reliable ?