I always give out reasons when i say no, its just that it feels like we are giving people TOO much of a cushion. Like say if we just made him a Trainee, after two months or so, hes a Rookie. Some of us havent really judged the player about our opinions, but we already seen that he is already accepted. Im just saying we need to really get to know this player instead of just waiting 2 or so months until he gets promoted. Its like it depends on only a few people until he is given a position, not the whole crew. And i don't care who vouches for him , we ALL should be able to meet this person because he might just be nice to that 1 [VU] and then go against another.. Like you see the way desfire got kicked, becuase 1 person vouched for him , but also 1 person didnt like him, but he was still accepted to our clan. I know im probably not being vague with this one, because i think that Charley and Veteran are right, but also Me and SanDisk are right aswell.