Vice Underdogs
Vice Underdogs Clan => General Chat => Farewell Board => Topic started by: Charley on September 25, 2012, 05:04:40 pm
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I've decided to retire from being the VU leader and in general from the VC:MP community. I still want to remain on the member list, as I will be ingame from time to time, but it will be only very occasionally.
There are a few reasons why. My position here takes a lot of effort and time, I've put a huge amount of work in here and I'm glad to see that many people have been able to enjoy its products. I don't really have that time anymore though, as university is starting to take up more and more of it. I want to pass the responsibility on to Veteran and the rest of the clan.
I could write an essay about the reasons why I'm not very fond of this community anymore, but it would serve no purpose. All I'll say is that I'm sick of all the egos and arrogance; and of all the people who are willing to criticise and bad mouth people's hard work, when they are willing to do none themselves.
Just one record I want to set straight: I never told anyone not to play XE. Not once did I tell anybody, in VU or not, not to play on the server that I wrote. I still consider that server more mine and the community's than anyone elses, so if people want to play on it then great! I want them to enjoy my script, even if those who are now in possession of it are complete fuckheads. For all those that criticise my work at XE, I'd like you just to think about the fact that there would be no XE if it weren't for me, and every time you play on it, every single command you use, you wouldn't be able to do it if it weren't for me :)
Before I left I wanted to give the community something again, so I wrote a new server called Wildstyle TDM. It is under the management of Cola, Newk and Veteran. Castagna will be doing script updates and Thijn will be helping out too (he's done a great job on a new forum).
I must stress, very strongly, that it is to be a community server. Not a VU server, not an MK server, not a DU server, but one run by and for everyone. I hope it's a success, but if it isn't then it's not the end of the world. They have the script and will launch it as, when and how they see fit. I really hope everyone can make it a great server that's friendly to newbies, equal in its treatment of players and a happy place to be.
Just wanted to say thanks to those who helped with VU, its event and whatever else. There are too many people to name but really, you guys make this community better.
See y'all around and good luck!
If you wanna stay in contact here's my email, as I won't be hanging around the forums much if at all after next week: charleyutton@yahoo.co.uk
P.S. I'm sorry for doing this after my period of summer inactivity, I just wanted to make the server before I did and I didn't get the chance to before summer started.
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:( We'll miss you, Charley. BROFIST!
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Charley? Are you serious? What the bloody hell should we do without you?
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I just dont believe this.Still doubting.
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Good luck Charley.
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You do not have to retire because you are not active on VC:MP.
Look at me, I haven't played with VU tag for, like, weeks ( except [VU]Chados on MDR with habla, typemistake :) )
You just have to keep cool and keep in-touch with members and it'll be fine, I am so busy with school but I still find time to chat around.
If you consider this is the right thing to do, I have nothing to say, just good luck in your both real life and in-game life. However, I think you make a mistake.
It's normal to have inactivity, as we grow up, we are put under more pressure, and even a little mistake can be fatal for our jobs / etc...
But this is all about fun! So you do not really have to take it very very serious, even if managing a clan is well, hard.
Look around, you have Veteran, Knucis, Habla, even Zeke ( more or less, idk ) !
Veteran is fit for the job, he takes clan management pretty good, and he handles it ! So do not worry, you have excellent people in this clan !
Just keep cool, your okay..
And even if you leave, you will still be known as the founder of this awesome clan named "Vice Underdogs" !
All my respect,
Shadow.
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You do not have to retire because you are not active on VC:MP.
Look at me, I haven't played with VU tag for, like, weeks ( except [VU]Chados on MDR with habla, typemistake :) )
You just have to keep cool and keep in-touch with members and it'll be fine, I am so busy with school but I still find time to chat around.
If you consider this is the right thing to do, I have nothing to say, just good luck in your both real life and in-game life. However, I think you make a mistake.
It's normal to have inactivity, as we grow up, we are put under more pressure, and even a little mistake can be fatal for our jobs / etc...
But this is all about fun! So you do not really have to take it very very serious, even if managing a clan is well, hard.
Look around, you have Veteran, Knucis, Habla, even Zeke ( more or less, idk ) !
Veteran is fit for the job, he takes clan management pretty good, and he handles it ! So do not worry, you have excellent people in this clan !
Just keep cool, your okay..
And even if you leave, you will still be known as the founder of this awesome clan named "Vice Underdogs" !
All my respect,
Shadow.
This.
Good luck with your life mang. ;)
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Very very sad to see you go. One of my best friends is leaving..
I hope we keep in contact, and hopefully see you popping up sometime.
Cya Charley, Good luck with your studies. And future things.
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Can't wait for the server to go online and try it out.
Take care with life Charley. :)
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I definitely hope to see you around. Truly a 'true friend', if there exists such a term in online gaming.
Best of luck mate :) and I know, the new server's gonna kick ass
Cya
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For all those that criticise my work at XE, I'd like you just to think about the fact that there would be no XE if it weren't for me, and every time you play on it, every single command you use, you wouldn't be able to do it if it weren't for me :)
Erm.. I'm pretty sure they would just use the old mIRC script. HHHHH
Farewell and good luck Charley. I hope you solve your problems and return to your leader duties once more :)
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However,you will back ;)
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Didn't expect this, i'm really sad, good luck in your future Charley, i hope everything will be alright for you, and i want to see you in-game in future.
Good luck. :)
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For all those that criticise my work at XE, I'd like you just to think about the fact that there would be no XE if it weren't for me, and every time you play on it, every single command you use, you wouldn't be able to do it if it weren't for me :)
Erm.. I'm pretty sure they would just use the old mIRC script. HHHHH
You mean erm... the broken one? HHHHH
I wish it were as easy as that Shadow but it ain't. Yeah Veteran and I have been inactive for the last couple of months and how much has the clan grown? Hardly at all. Also, yeah, I was inactive for a couple of months but before that I spent years of very intense activity in order to help grow the clan into what it is today. Yes, as a clan member, it is possible to be sporadically active. As a leader, it just ain't possible. Also, I always said that I would never let a clan of mine have inactive leadership, ever since I left MK in 2008.
Luckily Veteran is going to be active this year, and there are a couple of people in the memberlist who should they return to activity would make great co-leaders.
But this is all about fun!
You're right, absolutely right. I rarely have fun here and even when I do it ain't nearly as good as the shit I get up to in real life. I much prefer being around real, friendly people instead of a bunch of internet tough guy geeks and kids who can barely speak my language. Don't get me wrong, I ain't saying you're all like that, but there are many people in this community who do fit that description.
Thanks for the nice words, I'll be sure to stay in contact with some of you.
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It's sad to see you go, but I actually believe you will be back one day. Over the years I've played this mod there has been alot of people that "left", but they always end up coming back, that being a couple of weeks later or even years. These last few months proved that as a couple of "old" players came back one by one, the DnA folks are a good example of that. About the current community, I'll have to admit that it really isn't good at all, I've been playing alot of different multiplayer games over these last few months and interacting with the community on those games and it put me in perspective to this community, and how bad it can be. There's a constant communication gap almost everywhere you go, not to talk about other stuff; However I think that the worst and the best thing about VCMP is its community. Being in a small community like this one is good in a way that everyone pretty much knows eachother, it's nice to be in a server with tons of people and knowing all of them, or most of them anyway, but oh well, good luck anyway in whatever you decide to do, we'll be waiting for when you return.
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Ehh, good luck Charley maan!
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I could write an essay about the reasons why I'm not very fond of this community anymore, but it would serve no purpose. All I'll say is that I'm sick of all the egos and arrogance; and of all the people who are willing to criticise and bad mouth people's hard work, when they are willing to do none themselves.
I must stress, very strongly, that it is to be a community server. Not a VU server, not an MK server, not a DU server, but one run by and for everyone. I hope it's a success, but if it isn't then it's not the end of the world. They have the script and will launch it as, when and how they see fit. I really hope everyone can make it a great server that's friendly to newbies, equal in its treatment of players and a happy place to be.
Just wanted to say thanks to those who helped with VU, its event and whatever else. There are too many people to name but really, you guys make this community better.
See y'all around and good luck!
Goodbye, you're a very wise person that knows what is right for the community, sometimes I had the pleasure to speak with you for a while and I realized that now, many need you now, not to be the best player on this world, but because you are someone who offered advice, plus always a pleasant attitude.
I was glad to have met you, maybe not one of your friends or maybe it is, but what I want now is the best of luck to you, hope you never change your personality and friendly attitude, because that is your essence and what makes you different from others.
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Aye... i,.. I just cant watch you go, i just can't.
You made me to what i am today, you teached me alot of things. You were in my eyes my mentor.
It's just hard to see you go after what you have done for me, for all of us. I'm literally dropping tears.
It's just to hard. I hope i can still play with you before you completely disappear for your studies, i'm going to miss you very much and hopefully you will return in the future. Keep in touch and good bye my mate!
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Barely we will find someone like you on this community Charley. As Brian said, most of us are what we are because of you, your humility, friendship, and the time and effort that you had dedicated to the clan.
What can i say man, i understand your decition and i feel very sad because of it. There's gonna be always an empty gap on VU and in the community. I promise to do my best to keep WildStyle a good place for vcmp players with the rest of the team.
Good luck with your life and especially with uni, and hope to still seeing you around! :)
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Didn't see this coming.
Good luck at studies man.
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Oh!, Good luck charley!
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Heh, about 4 long stressful years eh? There's something I've never gotten with you though and it's this criticism of which you speak of. It's not your main reason but it keeps being brought up and I don't understand exactly why it has affected you to such extravagance. I still don't know the details behind it but someone of your virtues and amiableness, I expected a toughened heart to the voice of hatred and an enlightened mind to the illusions of life, atleast without a breaking point. You enjoy what you do, you have true passion in keeping the VCMP community on a whole running and you have good and positive critics to praise. Don't "praise" the bad criticism by bringing up all that old shit, discouraging yourself not to go on. Praise the honest good criticism and continue to do what you love. When you're happy with yourself with what you did, no matter if you don't even get appreciated, you can still smile inside that "I did all that and Im proud to contribute to the public".
So you retiring because of balancing time. Well that is a tragedy, you built this community for so long, you've left a big impression on us all, you've made us who we are today as Brian implied. I wish you all the best in your studies but no goodbye for you. We'll catch you later :)
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I wish you luck with your life, bye Charley.
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Sad news I am hearing. Well, I only wish the best of luck mens.
-Your former VU pal, tmavs4.
I much prefer being around real, friendly people instead of a bunch of internet tough guy geeks and kids who can barely speak my language.
Amen to that.
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Uh, cant say anything as this was just unexpected, well, TBH, I've still got some doubts in believing this.
Sad to see such a great guy like you go, well mate, good bye.
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This was very unexpected. You were an excellent leader, a person who never judged someone on the basis of their country / religion and the most important, you were a great friend. Seriously, it's extremely sad that you're going. :(
I wish best luck for your life & your university. You're my hero.
Bye & take care. :(
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I can't believe this.You are a great guy with awesome attitude .Good luck with your Studies,Hope you come back soon.See ya!
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Fuck i can´t believe this....
just SAD u go
I hope see u around and pliz TAKE CARE man wherever u go...
Good luck!
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Fuck no.
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Anger management classes is what VC:MP needs. :P
Good luck with your future, Charley, and good luck to Veteran with taking on the gang.
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Ah, well I kinda expected something like this, don't ask me why. Anyways its sad to see you go Charls, it doesn't have to be like this u know, but anyways its your choice. Take care Charls.
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Charley, you gifted me this for my birthday? Sad to see a good person like you leaving, We will never forget you Charley you will always be in our heart forever, Good luck with your studies :thumbsup:
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Good luck with your life and take care.
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Anger management classes is what VC:MP needs. :P
Especially you. :)
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You've done a great work. Good luck and take care! :)
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Good luck with everything Charley, you know who you really are so I think my words would be nothing here, they have just said it all. Thanks for everything and see you soon ;)
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No words can explain this feeling. It's hard to see a great and amazing member like this leaving the community. Good luck wherever you go :thumbsup:
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Well, i didn't know him well (i talked with him a couple of sentences or so) but i guess that he was a good leader for VU, at least that's why they love him so much so the unique words that i can say are, Good luck Charley.
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Dafuq?! Charley, the university its most important than a game. I can't believe this.... Whatever, good luck in the university. And good luck to u Veteran. U need to work hard :thumbsup:
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Charley? Are you serious? What the bloody hell should we do without you?
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omg 1 of the best member in VU is Leaving..........................I cant belive it