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Title: Questions
Post by: aXXo on November 21, 2017, 10:50:36 pm
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Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Saim on December 06, 2017, 04:08:26 pm
Quote
A rally bike is a custom bike, which bears your gang's logo/emblem on a flag.
The rally bikes enables you to perform a Drive-By with SMG weapons.
The rally bikes grants you /heal bonus.
Each team starts with one rally bike, which spawns at the Biker Bar in Downtown.
When you capture a base, you gain an additional rally bike which spawns in that base. The bike gets removed if you lose the base.
You can not enter rally bikes of other teams.

can you elaborate about this in Urdu language?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 06, 2017, 06:30:11 pm
har gang ke paas shuru se ek special bike hogi. Ye baaki Freeways se alag dikhegi. Bike pe tumhare gang ka jhandda laga hoga. Iss bike pe tum:
- Drive By kar sakte ho.
- /heal command free mein use kar sakte ho.

Tum doosri teams ki rally bike pe nahi baith sakte.
Ye saari bikes Biker Bar pe spawn hogi. Agar tum koi base capture karte ho, toh ek aur bike wahan base pe bhi aa jaygi. Jab tak base tumhare control mein hai, woh bike use kar sakte ho. Agar base koi aur capture kar gaya, toh bike gaayab ho jaaygi.



Each gang will initially have a special bike, called a Rally bike. This bike will look different from a regular Freeway. It will have a flag of your gang. These bikes have special abilities:
- Ability to drive by.
- /heal command will have no cost.

You can not enter the rally bikes of other gangs.
All the gang's bikes spawn at Biker Bar. If your gang captures a base, you gain an additional bike which spawns in that base. You can use that bike as long as your gang controls the base. If an enemy captures the base, your bike disappears and respawns at the base as the enemy's bikes.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Xyu on December 06, 2017, 07:11:24 pm
Why there's no limit of players at the moment of time in Biker's Gangs?
That's because you want to win by outnumbered amount of players in  VU's gang (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9155.0), right?
(https://i.imgur.com/AzX8zqI.png)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 06, 2017, 07:35:53 pm
Why there's no limit of players at the moment of time in Biker's Gangs?
That's because you want to win by outnumbered amount of players in  VU's gang (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9155.0), right?
Yes, I believe having the biggest team increases our chances of winning. Though, I'm sure you can pack a lot of guys from your [XTM]-slave-streltsy army.
However, this can be countered by packing more Quality instead of Quantity. A big team will suffer from the Causalities disadvantages. A smaller team would not reach 200 deaths every hour. This feature has been added so that smaller teams stand a chance in terms of points even if they are outnumbered.
Casualties
  • The number of deaths in your team per hour is called Casualties.
  • This count is reset to 0 after every hour.
  • If casualties increases above 200, your gang suffers certain disadvantages.
  • Disadvantage: The number of points gained by bases is halved.
  • Disadvantage: The cash generated by bases is halved.
  • Disadvantage: The cash generated by kills is halved.
  • Disadvantage: No spree bonuses are granted.

The numbers above can be changed, so I'm open to suggestions.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SpiralRock on December 06, 2017, 08:01:48 pm
(https://msgpwebcdn.azureedge.net/aoe/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AoE-III-Strelets.png)
AOE 3 Ruskie Strelets rush + 1 free Reindeer.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 06, 2017, 08:03:18 pm
is that the rocky mountains map?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: #Wr#blix# on December 06, 2017, 09:27:29 pm
Imo adding more than two teams is a needless change really. Im quite sure majority of the community still prefers a classic dm between two teams.

About being outnumbered it's not really a problem as long as killing others is the only way to gain points and with the current scoring system
[cp providing 30 points per min wtf] it will be actually all about quantity really. I would suggest to change it ???
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 06, 2017, 10:14:33 pm
Imo adding more than two teams is a needless change really. Im quite sure majority of the community still prefers a classic dm between two teams.

About being outnumbered it's not really a problem as long as killing others is the only way to gain points and with the current scoring system
[cp providing 30 points per min wtf] it will be actually all about quantity really. I would suggest to change it ???


While I agree that it is a needless change at heart, nothing ventured nothing gained. After 6 installments of the same 2 team system, we decided to investigate how would a dynamic number of teams play out with everyone competing to rise to the top.

I know some people of the community don't like either sides but just go with the side that opposes who you hate the most. If they had their way, they would rather prove their elitism in a purer fashion by having their own controlled group. If you hate all, in this edition, we grant you access to kill all (providing you can group with 4 other like minded people minimum).


The CP, we can look into that, not sure what direction aXXo would want to go with it but the aim is to essentially make it so that whether you make a gigantic group or you just work with the minimum, everyone attending has a fighting chance to win. We don't want any hopeless scenarios, that's counterproductive.

Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 06, 2017, 11:57:16 pm
Imo adding more than two teams is a needless change really. Im quite sure majority of the community still prefers a classic dm between two teams.
This is something that is not possible to change, since it has been committed to a full extent. However, it is quite possible that we might end up with 2 teams :D

I have had people requesting a separate team in the previous seasons. Currently, there is a lot of conflict in the community, where in A doesn't want to team with B + C, B doesn't want to team with A and C hates everyone. So, now they have the chance to make their own team and control who joins it(karan, where the fuck is your anti-pak team).



About being outnumbered it's not really a problem as long as killing others is the only way to gain points and with the current scoring system
[cp providing 30 points per min wtf] it will be actually all about quantity really. I would suggest to change it ???
You have a valid point. Lets re-validate the value to have a balance between points by kills == points by bases.

Last time, we roughly had 24k kills = 24,000 points. We also had around 5000 points made by sprees, so lets round it off to 30,000 points in 1440 minutes, that is 20.8 points per minute through kills.
Divide that by 2(since we had two teams), so 10.4 points per team.
At 30 points per minute, 6 bases could generate maximum 259,200 in 1440 minutes.
Since we have more than 2 teams, there would be more people shooting at you and to shoot at, so kills are expected to be higher.
Mass of electron being 9.10938356 × 10-31 kilograms and Speed of light, 299,792,458 m/s, the DT district will offer more kills due to lack of cover and everyone being very used to mass DM fests in DT.
e=mc2 vagina, the points per minute for bases could be 20. What do you think?

PS: The Wolf Pack is looking for talented drive by bikers. Visit here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9155.msg111867#msg111867)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SpiralRock on December 07, 2017, 12:44:48 pm
Imo adding more than two teams is a needless change really. Im quite sure majority of the community still prefers a classic dm between two teams.
This is something that is not possible to change, since it has been committed to a full extent. However, it is quite possible that we might end up with 2 teams :D

I have had people requesting a separate team in the previous seasons. Currently, there is a lot of conflict in the community, where in A doesn't want to team with B + C, B doesn't want to team with A and C hates everyone. So, now they have the chance to make their own team and control who joins it(karan, where the fuck is your anti-pak team).



About being outnumbered it's not really a problem as long as killing others is the only way to gain points and with the current scoring system
[cp providing 30 points per min wtf] it will be actually all about quantity really. I would suggest to change it ???
You have a valid point. Lets re-validate the value to have a balance between points by kills == points by bases.

Last time, we roughly had 24k kills = 24,000 points. We also had around 5000 points made by sprees, so lets round it off to 30,000 points in 1440 minutes, that is 20.8 points per minute through kills.
Divide that by 2(since we had two teams), so 10.4 points per team.
At 30 points per minute, 6 bases could generate maximum 259,200 in 1440 minutes.
Since we have more than 2 teams, there would be more people shooting at you and to shoot at, so kills are expected to be higher.
Mass of electron being 9.10938356 × 10-31 kilograms and Speed of light, 299,792,458 m/s, the DT district will offer more kills due to lack of cover and everyone being very used to mass DM fests in DT.
e=mc2 vagina, the points per minute for bases could be 20. What do you think?

PS: The Wolf Pack is looking for talented drive by bikers. Visit here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9155.msg111867#msg111867)
Wtf
Now convert it in Urdu...
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: #Wr#blix# on December 07, 2017, 05:54:30 pm
After 6 installments of the same 2 team system, we decided to investigate how would a dynamic number of teams play out with everyone competing to rise to the top.
Not sure if we can treat this event as a test since it takes place only once in a year and it seems like there are more guys around
who doesnt really like this idea (i'm not the only weirdo this time nice). But well I can give it a try why not (ofc not because u said u cant change it :D).
But not with this scoring system.

I just dont get aXXXXXXo's reasoning about cp's providing additional points at all. As you said you expect number of kills
to be significantly higher and it will surely be if this event takes place so why would we need these points anyway?

The CP, we can look into that, not sure what direction aXXo would want to go with it but the aim is to essentially make it so that whether you make a gigantic group or you just work with the minimum, everyone attending has a fighting chance to win. We don't want any hopeless scenarios, that's counterproductive.

The current scoring system will inevitably lead to such a scenario.
Even if CPs provided like 10 points per min gang or gangs that will notably outnumber
others will get most of these points- in this case most out of 86400 which is still ridiculous number lol. Smaller teams may lose by tens of thousand points.
I think this could be too much even if there would be just 2 teams as well.

Making it all about kills should wipe out all differences in numbers and will be fair enough for every team and everyone this is how i see it.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ferrari32 on December 07, 2017, 06:48:52 pm
i actually agree with waldo here, I opted for kills being the only source of points from the start, and making unique emphasis such as perks for given amount of kills or spree. unfortunately I was misunderstood and the perks were added as disadvantages to dying a lot.

a good compromise would be scratching the cp system and adding a target radius bases, similar to battlefield. e.g. if team A has 4 people on the base radius, and team B has 5, team A needs to neutralize 2 players in the base in order to capture. seems like a unique game changer to me
 
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SpiralRock on December 07, 2017, 07:29:56 pm
Scenario 1. Team A gets 100 kills more than team B. Team A never spawns again...
Scenario 2. Blips are off, Team A is smoking joint in ocean beach while the VW was about DT.

I guess now you understand why bases are important with the points. And ffs point system is same for all the teams, form your team accordingly. Remember VW5 had trucks to drive back to bases and it was all cool too.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 07, 2017, 07:33:26 pm
A points trickle for capturing objectives is needed. In Vicewar 3, one team built a lead and refused to spawn anymore. The opposite team could not earn any points since there was no one to kill. To prevent it from happening again, every edition of Vice War had a points reward for capturing and holding bases.

Kills can not be the sole source of points. Since they are directly impacted by the availability of an enemy. Objectives need to grant points as well. How much? Discuss.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: #Wr#blix# on December 07, 2017, 08:21:47 pm
Scenario 1. Team A gets 100 kills more than team B. Team A never spawns again...
Scenario 2. Blips are off, Team A is smoking joint in ocean beach while the VW was about DT.

I guess now you understand why bases are important with the points. And ffs point system is same for all the teams, form your team accordingly.
I understand you well I thought about it but couldn't really imagine this happening my bad.
Sorry just forgot for a moment how cancerous this community has became over the past few years. How could I be so naive...

Remember VW5 had trucks to drive back to bases and it was all cool too.
I wasn't around at that time but heard about the discussion.

Still I wouldn't go over 5 points per minute at this moment but it depends on how many teams and players will we get and it's not looking too promising
at the moment ;)
 
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: OmaRosh on December 07, 2017, 09:14:21 pm
but it depends on how many teams and players will we get and it's not looking too promising
at the moment ;)
Don't worry.. you'll see more gangs applying just when they finish "Photoshop From Zero to Hero in 15mins " tutorials and come up with a valid emblem/logo :D
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Deadmau5 on December 07, 2017, 09:37:27 pm
We need more staff  ::)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 07, 2017, 09:38:53 pm
but it depends on how many teams and players will we get and it's not looking too promising
at the moment ;)
Don't worry.. you'll see more gangs applying just when they finish "Photoshop From Zero to Hero in 15mins " tutorials and come up with a valid emblem/logo :D

Lol oh yeah zero to hero to make this

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png)

or this

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_nLp8lNi-UDM%2FTNlEVMW3-9I%2FAAAAAAAAADE%2FAgoD_gTKCXg%2Fs1600%2Fuchiha.jpg&hash=59599dff9749a1738858583e66816e16f5e1cca9)

or maybe even this

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Flag_of_the_German_Reich_%281935%E2%80%931945%29.svg/2000px-Flag_of_the_German_Reich_%281935%E2%80%931945%29.svg.png)

They all eligible at the right dimensions. Pro Tip: Just be symbolic.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/4/4e/IDK_reaction_face.png/revision/latest?cb=20130219021958)



Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SpiralRock on December 07, 2017, 10:56:19 pm
The real intent of this VW is based on shifting of alliances in mid game. Small teams will be teaming up together Ingame and ruining larger teams. Its not just about joining red or blue. Feel the RP value of making your own biker group. Alliances will be changing every hour just to ruin the team at the top. And the winners wont be decided till the last hour. That's the intent overall.

Unless people see new teams being created, clanless/newbies will keep joining the only team available. That's what we are saying, start your faction ASAP.

Anyways, we will be having a trial a week before the actual war. Point system will be balanced out based on the result from this... aXXo and I both are deeply affected by the game Europa Universalis 4. The system overall is picked up from this game.

For more information read about what Coalitions were: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Alliance#Coalition_Strategy
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: killer frost on December 08, 2017, 03:33:23 am
Where the server host ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 08, 2017, 03:51:12 am
Where the server host ?
Amsterdam, Netherlands.
The IP is 188.226.141.93, so you can check your ping by entering command prompt (Run -> cmd) and enter:
ping 188.226.141.93

The server will be visible in master list when scripts are ready.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Silent on December 08, 2017, 09:12:25 pm
What I do if I want to join a gang wit not many people but I can't create gang or pay gangsta  for flag design and what if not many teams participate
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SpiralRock on December 08, 2017, 09:31:14 pm
What I do if I want to join a gang wit not many people but I can't create gang or pay gangsta  for flag design and what if not many teams participate

Quote from: Kevin Abdulrahman (The book on What Ever You're Into)
How many times have you used "it‘s complicated" as a reason to justify your actions or inactions?

As humans, it seems to be in our nature to complicate situations. Humans enjoy complicating things to
serve their egos. After all we all feel good when we triumph over a complicated situation (you know I‘m
right).

Life doesn‘t have to be complicated. But many make it so to justify the time and effort spent in order to get
a sense of achievement. When you are afraid, uncertain, or haven‘t tried something before, you try to
complicate things to further justify why you should take your time before making a move. Or even worse,
make a move at all.

Winners see things as they are. There are no complications, good or bad.

Everything is simple. Winners are often heard saying, "it‘s really simple".

They are not saying it to make themselves sound superior; they do it because it‘s their reality.
To them things are really simple.

Winners know that to get what they want; they need to do certain things. They make a decision and get on
with the process.

When the majority of people look for a hundred and one reasons to tie knots on a rope, winners will choose
to use the rope (and its knots) to their benefit.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 08, 2017, 10:04:00 pm
What I do if I want to join a gang wit not many people but I can't create gang or pay gangsta  for flag design and what if not many teams participate
You can join the Wolf Pack, since it accepts pretty much everyone.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sevrin on December 09, 2017, 08:42:58 am
What I do if I want to join a gang wit not many people but I can't create gang or pay gangsta  for flag design and what if not many teams participate
Do you know that EAF always participate in VW, and since you're EAF, you might join them.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: karan on December 09, 2017, 08:56:04 am
You can join the Wolf Pack, since it accepts pretty much everyone.
so what if none creates second team,everyone joins Wolf Pack?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aXXo on December 09, 2017, 09:48:56 am
so what if none creates second team,everyone joins Wolf Pack?
not you  O0  O0  O0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: karan on December 09, 2017, 10:54:45 am
so what if none creates second team,everyone joins Wolf Pack?
not you  O0  O0  O0
all vs me? wtf
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: koray on December 09, 2017, 11:36:05 am
These gang rules are just way off of a Vice War in general.I always thought it meant a massive fight between two teams and that's how it's done in all events.This does not help smaller groups of people let alone clanless players and definetely not fun.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Dr.Shawn on December 09, 2017, 01:34:02 pm
DuDEee, make team 2
Everyone else join team 2
Stop blaming haXXo
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 09, 2017, 03:02:34 pm
These gang rules are just way off of a Vice War in general.I always thought it meant a massive fight between two teams and that's how it's done in all events.This does not help smaller groups of people let alone clanless players and definetely not fun.

I have a question for you, as well as the community in general cuz I want to understand if its just me not being an outsider to the implementation why I'm not seeing something or if its the outsiders having a flawed view. Don't feel bad, I'm not picking on you, you just fall into the group I'm seeing here.

If you had to name one aspect of this implementation as the biggest issue, which would it be? The requirements for a group? The unlimited number of groups that can be created? The unlimited number of people that can potentially join a group (no one is accepted in the Wolf Pack if you looking at 4 pages going of people showing interest if that's what you're looking at). Which one would you pick as the top problem of the list?

If you say the requirements, then I have another question. What is the big issue with it? It couldn't be to type your name and details that you're applying, that's all we've done for 6 editions right? so I'm assuming it's probably the flag. I have given examples of the simplest designs that would be eligible if you submit, testament that its not a must that you have to come to me. Just make something symbolic and at the right resolution.

Are you so educated that you can spend time here behaving like a parrot chirping the same negative outlook when you can simply submit something you can whip up in Paint in 2 minutes? Most of you hypocrites ever take a look at your own signature on this forum? You telling me you can't do something so simple? Listen me nuh man, nuh get me livid inna the place  >:(

Another question. Are you just sensitive to change or you just want to relive your youth by having the mindset of a child?

The only person's critique I respect so far is #Wr#blix# because he expressed his concern, we engaged in dialogue with him and whether he agrees to some of the changes or not, he heard us out and is willing to give the new change a chance. The rest of you to me just being lazy, annoying, mindless and hypocritical. We really seeing comments like this after we answered the same thing over and over in 3 pages now?

You know when to be smart to express negativity but you know when to be a dunce so that all you are is a cry baby that unwilling to do anything more than just cry a voice till you get what you want. Better you change you age in your profiles back to 5.

I don't want to see another comment like this again here.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 09, 2017, 03:04:18 pm
Separated the post for voting sake.

Re the clanless players, I have expressed an idea before to create a free for all group of sorts, I'd do the flag so all any clanless member would have to do is look pretty and apply like how its always been. Sounds good? Vote agree. Questions? Discuss.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: koray on December 09, 2017, 03:25:32 pm
Im quite surprised about the group of people you're considering me into.Even though this was not a negative point,I merely pointed to the fact there could be flaws for the uncategorized people you might have not considered for the potential of playercount and the fun.I will reply or edit this post to elaborate on that more when I have time.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: MasterOz on December 09, 2017, 04:40:36 pm
Will Vice War 7 won't get numbers as it's ancestors ?  :'(
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 09, 2017, 04:57:45 pm
Im quite surprised about the group of people you're considering me into.Even though this was not a negative point,I merely pointed to the fact there could be flaws for the uncategorized people you might have not considered for the potential of playercount and the fun.I will reply or edit this post to elaborate on that more when I have time.

That's why I made a double post outlining my idea on that aspect of your post. But everything else you said pretty much puts you into that category in my eyes.

We've outlined that the bigger the team, the worse off they are because of the death penalty. You fight in EC and you have green team contributing to half the damn number of players overpowering everyone and you are a small group, what do you do? Tackle them alone or you befriend the enemy of your enemy and tackle them together? No matter how big the group is and how concentrated or spread out they are on the map, it is up to you to be creative enough to capitalize on what you can do for your team on the situation.

If you can't win a base, find a creative way to cut the winning team's points in half while you focus on getting the highest killing sprees across all of your members. You're going to have teams attacking teams and too focused on each other, easy backstabbing can be done on both.

A 40 member group for example, you just need to kill every member of that group 5 times to get the 200 death penalty.....No matter how skilled the group is, with everyone raining down on the massive group from multiple angles, that isn't a lot of work for any one group. Everyone's efforts can easily take out that massive group in 10 minutes. Then now with them out of the picture points wise, you could focus on getting back to killing each other whether that's going to be by sneak attacking multiple enemies and rack an easy spree that way and/or hold down a base at the sme time racking in points.

But no, no one's thinking that far, everyone just looks at a massive group and think they can do plenty, so big disadvantage to anyone else, give us back VW6 parade.

aXXo asked how much points capturing a base would give, let us balance that to this dynamic that can take place so that its fair for everyone. I would hope that this is what you wish to expound on later.

The massive fight of which you speak is still available but its up to you all to want to see it happen and us to make sure it happens in a competitive fashion.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Piterus on December 09, 2017, 06:18:25 pm
The rest of you to me just being lazy, annoying, mindless and hypocritical.

Good to know lol. Certainly it will encourage many players to take part in this event.

In my opinion, you shouldn't write post like that just because someone has a different opinion than you. After all, this event is for players and everyone just only wants to have fun. Or maybe I'm wrong?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: JuaN. on December 09, 2017, 06:20:29 pm
Im quite surprised about the group of people you're considering me into.Even though this was not a negative point,I merely pointed to the fact there could be flaws for the uncategorized people you might have not considered for the potential of playercount and the fun.I will reply or edit this post to elaborate on that more when I have time.
koray orospu nublet!
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sevrin on December 09, 2017, 06:24:53 pm
Quote
If casualties increases above 200, your gang suffers certain disadvantages.

Elabore this thing, I'm getting it or maybe getting it in the wrong way. How will this thing work, the casaulties changes every hour to 0. Which means if any team who has higher number of player count, they will have more casualties in that one hour and they will lose good amount of points but for teams which are lesser in player count will not have 200 kills soon. Well, this thing still unbalance on one side, maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Dr.Shawn on December 09, 2017, 07:03:54 pm
Quote
If casualties increases above 200, your gang suffers certain disadvantages.

Elabore this thing, I'm getting it or maybe getting it in the wrong way. How will this thing work, the casaulties changes every hour to 0. Which means if any team who has higher number of player count, they will have more casualties in that one hour and they will lose good amount of points but for teams which are lesser in player count will not have 200 kills soon. Well, this thing still unbalance on one side, maybe I'm wrong.
Make axxo play DotA and you get this casualties disadvantage thing
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 09, 2017, 07:37:21 pm
The rest of you to me just being lazy, annoying, mindless and hypocritical.

Good to know lol. Certainly it will encourage many players to take part in this event.

In my opinion, you shouldn't write post like that just because someone has a different opinion than you. After all, this event is for players and everyone just only wants to have fun. Or maybe I'm wrong?

In my opinion you should do something more useful like make a team or read this section thoroughly rather than try to make me look bad Piterus. You write this and completely ignored the fact that I did answer him on what is the new aspect of his post to this section of the forum. So dont try to pull that with me like I didnt care to what he said, its been answered. No one's immoral here, just annoyed.

Everyone here trying to ensure that everyone else enjoys Vice War. Ive been involved with the development of both VW5 and VW6 and now VW7. Since VW5 I have went to great lengths to ensure the fun and enjoyment aspect for all, from the planning of the war to the discussion of ping and fps issues to the points and monetary system listening to all of your complaints and working out all possible outcomes. Even now Im sitting here with a notebook reworking the balance aspect thinking outside of any arrogance as you would want to put my thinking as.

What are you doing sir? Trying to make me look bad, thats it....You couldve added a suggestion but no....this is all you see fit to do....

Forgive me if Im angry because of that.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 09, 2017, 07:47:51 pm
Is Hunting allowed to participate?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 09, 2017, 09:12:57 pm
Quote
If casualties increases above 200, your gang suffers certain disadvantages.

Elabore this thing, I'm getting it or maybe getting it in the wrong way. How will this thing work, the casaulties changes every hour to 0. Which means if any team who has higher number of player count, they will have more casualties in that one hour and they will lose good amount of points but for teams which are lesser in player count will not have 200 kills soon. Well, this thing still unbalance on one side, maybe I'm wrong.

You thinking of it in a 1 gang vs 1 gang scenario. Remember that everyone is fighting each other so if you're the lesser team it doesnt mean you have the burden of bringing the bigger team down to 200 deaths by yourself. Cumulatively, the kills of all the other groups against this bigger group will lead to the big groups downfall. Theyll be fighting others and get killed by others naturally. If 5 groups register, the biggest is the most likely to get hit by all the enemy groups in that hour, the smallest being the least likely.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Piterus on December 09, 2017, 09:25:05 pm
The rest of you to me just being lazy, annoying, mindless and hypocritical.

Good to know lol. Certainly it will encourage many players to take part in this event.

In my opinion, you shouldn't write post like that just because someone has a different opinion than you. After all, this event is for players and everyone just only wants to have fun. Or maybe I'm wrong?

In my opinion you should do something more useful like make a team or read this section thoroughly rather than try to make me look bad Piterus. You write this and completely ignored the fact that I did answer him on what is the new aspect of his post to this section of the forum. So dont try to pull that with me like I didnt care to what he said, its been answered. No one's immoral here, just annoyed.

Everyone here trying to ensure that everyone else enjoys Vice War. Ive been involved with the development of both VW5 and VW6 and now VW7. Since VW5 I have went to great lengths to ensure the fun and enjoyment aspect for all, from the planning of the war to the discussion of ping and fps issues to the points and monetary system listening to all of your complaints and working out all possible outcomes. Even now Im sitting here with a notebook reworking the balance aspect thinking outside of any arrogance as you would want to put my thinking as.

What are you doing sir? Trying to make me look bad, thats it....You couldve added a suggestion but no....this is all you see fit to do....

Forgive me if Im angry because of that.

To be honest, I see it a little differently. Your words just looks more like if you agree with me you're cool, but if you not, you're dumb, that's it. If we look now at the number of participants compared to previous vw editions we can see that something goes wrong and I wouldn't look for reasons solely in the laziness of players. I believe in your good intentions, but the facts are what they are. Time will show how it will go on. I hope that it will work as well as possible - I think that although you agree with me.

And no, I don't try put you in a bad light. I have no interest in it. I just stood in defense of people who in my opinion aren't mindless, stupid players. Not everyone are like that.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 09, 2017, 10:06:10 pm

To be honest, I see it a little differently. Your words just looks more like if you agree with me you're cool, but if you not, you're dumb, that's it. If we look now at the number of participants compared to previous vw editions we can see that something goes wrong and I wouldn't look for reasons solely in the laziness of players. I believe in your good intentions, but the facts are what they are. Time will show how it will go on. I hope that it will work as well as possible - I think that although you agree with me.

And no, I don't try put you in a bad light. I have no interest in it. I just stood in defense of people who in my opinion aren't mindless, stupid players. Not everyone are like that.

Hmm, this has humbled my anger. I dont want to give off that arrogant impression at all, Im just not that kind of guy. My apologies to you and koray if thats how I really sounded when I pushed my association. Guess that was the surprized factor. Definitely didnt mean it towards you like that honestly and Im definitely not dismissing any disagreements against my views to say whosoever is a dumbass. I have no place to say that. I just dont like the foolish acts lately re this but you did make a valid point Piterus. As they would say to the legit among us, so many different people cant tell the same lie, something must be wrong
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Eddy on December 10, 2017, 04:45:30 am
VW staff, answer the question of krystianoo, I am also curious.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zeeshan.Bhatti on December 10, 2017, 08:04:54 am
Is Hunting allowed to participate?
I don't think so
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: karan on December 10, 2017, 08:25:07 am
Is Hunting allowed to participate?
I don't think so
aXXo said he's willing to give everyone a chance to play this VW, obviously under *strict watchlist*, they're allowed to play but as he's banned from forums and as per rules none can apply on his behalf, he's unfortunately out of this, lol
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 10, 2017, 11:09:38 am
Is Hunting allowed to participate?

(a yes/no answer, please)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: koray on December 10, 2017, 11:32:55 am
Yes,GangstaRas.I didnt mean to ruin your work.I know all I can do is talk.But you are the one who took the responsibility and I appreciate that.Because not everybody is able to successfully pull this off.So it's good for you to recieve opinions to go on.So if we're okay with that,I'd like to continue to explain.

First,the problem is not "flags".Everyone out here can find a way to make them as we're not in 90s.There tons of websites to create your own logo with given tools for free.

The problem is not with the numbers(weapon costs,flag renewal time etc.).Because it will always be unbalanced and balanced for one to other.You just cant please everybody.You know how to find a middle ground.

The problem also is not about how many gangs would be created and how many people would be on the roster.I agree with everything you said about this.

However,what I find as flaws are basically belongings and recruitment.

While it was not a thing to recruit people,everyone except the black list was able to apply to the teams where they felt more comfortable and there were no denying them.Because as I said before,Everyone is able to join that specific event.

But with that recruitment , it's up to a group leader or a management circle to decide either the player is in or out.It's not cool for someone who just started to play VCMP and found out there is a massive event going on,or someone who is hated by everyone,someone who is the only active member in his/her clan and cant feel comfortable within any other group or someone like me who is retired but seeks out for these very special events but nobody know him :( .

I really hope this works out and I be damned.Untill then,good luck to all the staff members.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on December 10, 2017, 12:49:00 pm
Is Hunting allowed to participate?

(a yes/no answer, please)
If he can apply then yes
If he can't apply then no.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 10, 2017, 01:19:36 pm
I have two answers in this post to these are my instructions to everyone:




But with that recruitment , it's up to a group leader or a management circle to decide either the player is in or out.It's not cool for someone who just started to play VCMP and found out there is a massive event going on,or someone who is hated by everyone,someone who is the only active member in his/her clan and cant feel comfortable within any other group or someone like me who is retired but seeks out for these very special events but nobody know him :( .

I agree to this, and I think it serves as confirmation to the rest of the staff that a free for all type group has to be made. While the Wolf Pack currently pretty much operating in that light, its not a good thing overall because its one less split to the number of persons applying.

If you have this one group that is home to all VUs, us being the largest clan, and then you have all the "rejects" flocking to this one group as well, the one group could have 100 members. And if that's the case, why bother with a multi-group design, you get me? So I acknowledge that, the free for all group has to be made and then the rest of the leaders of respective groups that apply can freely operate as they please without having the power to keep potential players out of VW because they rejected them.




Re balancing. I did a re-check of the current system and I think there are two things that need to change, otherwise, the VW gonna be ridiculously one-sided. You guys can tell me what you think.


I don't want to say much, because I want a surprize factor in whatever play style our groups choose to utilize to their victory but what I can say is that if these 2 specific changes are not made, then what I found is that it wouldn't complement the multi-group scenario we pushing.

The disparity between best case and worse case scenario is way too big. With these changes however, even a minimal group can remain competitive if they know what they're doing.

The killing spree model remains, the death penalty (Casualties) model remains.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zeeshan.Bhatti on December 10, 2017, 01:26:33 pm
Is Hunting allowed to participate?

(a yes/no answer, please)
If he can apply then yes
If he can't apply then no.
Then he'll surely. He can evade the system on forums like he usually does in server before.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 10, 2017, 01:35:25 pm
Is Hunting allowed to participate?

(a yes/no answer, please)
If he can apply then yes
If he can't apply then no.

Let me rephrase then:

Is Hunting banned from participating in the event or not?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: FulToN_619 on December 10, 2017, 01:48:06 pm
Is Hunting allowed to participate?

(a yes/no answer, please)
If he can apply then yes
If he can't apply then no.

Let me rephrase then:

Is Hunting banned from participating in the event or not?
Answer pls
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on December 10, 2017, 06:03:40 pm
Yes he can but if he don't use any kind of gay hacks like he used in past.


/me hide
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ferrari32 on December 10, 2017, 06:31:26 pm
Hunting's allowed.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Amal on December 10, 2017, 06:47:02 pm
Each and everyone is allowed to apply, we have taken precautions and you don't have to worry about it.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Eddy on December 10, 2017, 06:54:59 pm
Will there be a beta test as the last event?
when it will be?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on December 10, 2017, 07:14:20 pm
Will there be a beta test as the last event?
when it will be?


No real set date, its up to aXXo, but be prepared for the 23, 24, 30, 31st. It's likely to be one of the four
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 10, 2017, 07:24:32 pm
I would like to have moderation rights over here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9169) - is this possible? Could we also get our own team board?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ferrari32 on December 10, 2017, 07:54:04 pm
I would like to have moderation rights over here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9169) - is this possible? Could we also get our own team board?
No. If you need something ask a board mod to do it. As for the team board, I suppose that is do-able.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zkq on December 11, 2017, 12:59:35 am
I got accepted in a gang but i did not recieve any message about the Key for the event
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: WiLsOn on December 11, 2017, 01:22:49 am
I got accepted in a gang but i did not recieve any message about the Key for the event
Registration  hasn't been started yet, stay tuned with us
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Eddy on December 11, 2017, 04:44:56 am
No real set date, its up to aXXo, but be prepared for the 23, 24, 30, 31st. It's likely to be one of the four
Many people will be busy on this date including me, it is impossible.

Saturday 16 / Sunday 17 would be good
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on December 11, 2017, 05:15:49 am
Most probably  it will be on sat/sun but don't know about timing.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: WiLsOn on December 11, 2017, 07:36:27 am
Script require time too scripter himself got a job and life to live, can't tell him to script everyday.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Dr.Shawn on December 11, 2017, 01:16:15 pm
I would like to have moderation rights over here (http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9169) - is this possible? Could we also get our own team board?
So that you ruin the event for someone again ?
Kurwa won't change ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 11, 2017, 07:11:39 pm
Does the event have to start at 7th January? Couldn't it be Saturday, 6th?

7th means it ends at 8th January, which is a Monday and I'm sure that apart from me, a lot of other people participating have jobs, school, etc. then.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sevrin on December 11, 2017, 07:15:54 pm
I fokin forgot really tbh. I might won't be able to play night time due to serious stuff in morning as its Monday.

Saturday would be great.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: BeY3K^ on December 12, 2017, 03:46:29 pm
What about clan-less players?
they will get equal right like clan-players.?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GoRcEE on December 12, 2017, 03:56:58 pm
What about clan-less players?
they will get equal right like clan-players.?
There are gangs where clanless and others can apply and yeah they will get equal rights as well.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sevrin on December 12, 2017, 04:03:59 pm
Talking to some playere, my above post. Since its in January where mostly players(eaf and nar) even tho Europeans most of them are having either exams or general classes of college/schoil/university. So I guess you should make it Saturday so that who have important stuff on Monday, they can prepare it on Sunday or get a one day rest.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ferrari32 on December 12, 2017, 04:27:05 pm
Talking to some playere, my above post. Since its in January where mostly players(eaf and nar) even tho Europeans most of them are having either exams or general classes of college/schoil/university. So I guess you should make it Saturday so that who have important stuff on Monday, they can prepare it on Sunday or get a one day rest.
Or they could prepare and rest on saturday which is the exact same thing as preparing and resting on sunday
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on December 12, 2017, 04:37:52 pm
What is your argument against starting the event on Saturday? Really, it just seems like you're disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing with us.

Saturday is a much more comfortable day than a Sunday, the event ending on 1 o'clock Monday (in Poland) and you having to wake up 4 hours afterward.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ferrari32 on December 12, 2017, 04:42:55 pm
Perhaps the fact that sunday is a universal day off for both the working and studying man. Doh
The fact you're too young to understand that Saturday is also in a lot of cases a workday for the common man is an error on your end.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sevrin on December 12, 2017, 04:56:39 pm
I have work in Saturday but its half day. Event will end on 5 AM in Pakistan and 5:30 AM in India.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SpiralRock on December 12, 2017, 05:31:20 pm
Saturday is not OFF for everyone. Not everyone is in school, we also have jobs and kids. <3
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Tobi0 on December 12, 2017, 05:36:46 pm
I think there's no need to discuss on questions topic. It was supposed to be questions and staff's answers, no discussion.


Only Staff Members are allowed to answer the questions.
If you answer a question in some other language, translate the entire thing in English as well.


Where's aXXo removing post like last year?


Unwanted replies removed from the topic.
Please keep this strictly as Q&A.


I won't change previous posts but follow the rules, I will remove non staff answers after this post.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: hotdogcat on December 12, 2017, 06:35:37 pm
For discussion things i suggest to create a new topic
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ripmemes on December 13, 2017, 06:36:03 pm
I have many questions:
Combien de personnes pourraient rejoindre Vice War 7?
quel genre d'armes les joueurs vont utiliser?
??? in Vice War7هل يمكن للاعبين قطع الاتصال ثم إعادة الانضمام
هل هناك حد لعدد العصابات ؟؟؟
Quelles sont les nouvelles models de joueurs que nous pourrions choisir????
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Tobi0 on December 13, 2017, 06:50:53 pm
I would like to ask you, why do you make you questions in different languages? anyways I will try to answer you.

Quote
Combien de personnes pourraient rejoindre Vice War 7?
How many people could join Vice War 7?

un nombre illimité de personnes.
An unlimited amount of people.

Quote
quel genre d'armes les joueurs vont utiliser?
what kind of weapons will the players use?



  • Weapon Prices

    Chainsaw - 1(lost on death)100$
    Ruger - 200 ammo400$
    M4 - 200 ammo500$
    M60 - 200 ammo500$
    Spaz - 200 ammo1500$
    Molotovs - 30 ammo1000$
    Grenades - 30 ammo1000$
    Remote Grenades - 30 ammo1200$
    Flamethrower - 100 ammo1000$
    Sniper Rifle - 100 ammo2500$
    Laserscope Sniper - 200 ammo4000$
    Rocket Launcher - 30 ammo6000$
    • All other weapons are free of cost, except Minigun which is disabled.

Quote
??? in Vice War7هل يمكن للاعبين قطع الاتصال ثم إعادة الانضمام
in Vice War 7 Players can disconnect and re-join

نعم، يمكنك قطع وإعادة الإنضمام وقتما تشاء.
yes, you can disconnect and rejoin whenever you want.

Quote
هل هناك حد لعدد العصابات ؟؟؟
Is there a limit to the number of gangs ???
لا، ليس هناك حد لعدد العصابات. إذا كنت ترغب في إنشاء عصابة فقط قراءة هذه الشروط
No, there's no limit on the number of gangs. If you want to create a gang just read this Pre-Requisites: http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9126.0

Quote
Quelles sont les nouvelles modèles de joueurs que nous pourrions choisir?
What are the new player models we could choose?

Je pense que vous devez attendre le test bêta pour voir cela.
I think you'll have to wait for beta test to see this.

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Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ripmemes on December 16, 2017, 12:25:07 pm
I'm asking in different languages so if I can see if admins do know and it appeared that you do!!!!Thanks Tobi0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: hotdogcat on December 16, 2017, 12:51:58 pm
I'm asking in different languages so if I can see if admins do know and it appeared that you do!!!!Thanks Tobi0

Next time make your question in only 1 language, thanks.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: killer frost on December 16, 2017, 04:11:54 pm
Where the server host ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: BeY3K^ on December 16, 2017, 04:31:38 pm
Clan-less player get voice app to connect with Team/Gang in War... ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on December 16, 2017, 04:50:41 pm
Where the server host ?
Amsterdam, Netherlands.
The IP is 188.226.141.93, so you can check your ping by entering command prompt (Run -> cmd) and enter:
ping 188.226.141.93

Clan-less player get voice app to connect with Team/Gang in War... ?

Yes you can contact with your gang member and can make your voice channel.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SulkyPlayz on December 26, 2017, 04:08:17 pm
can i play vice war Without any gang??
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: karan on December 26, 2017, 04:11:56 pm
yes,only if you can parcel some fresh virgin goats to aXXo.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GoRcEE on December 26, 2017, 04:12:23 pm
Nope. Catch any gang and apply there.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: WiLsOn on December 26, 2017, 04:26:59 pm
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9170.0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ripmemes on December 26, 2017, 04:44:31 pm
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9187.0
SKULLY GO POST YOUR NICK HERE
You'll play with your friends masteroz and me!!!!like we did play the clan war ;)
it's a pleasure to fight with us at the war :)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: #Wr#blix# on December 27, 2017, 09:44:26 pm
Quote
Spaz - 200 ammo   1500$
I guess you meant $500 because this is quite a lot now? And btw there will be no choppers right?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Tobi0 on December 27, 2017, 10:15:48 pm
Quote
Spaz - 200 ammo   1500$
I guess you meant $500 because this is quite a lot now? And btw there will be no choppers right?
Actually, Gamemode manual topic says $1500 if you want to change it you can make a topic in suggestions board.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Piterus on December 27, 2017, 10:18:28 pm
Quote
Spaz - 200 ammo   1500$
I guess you meant $500 because this is quite a lot now? And btw there will be no choppers right?
Actually, Gamemode manual topic says $1500 if you want to change it you can make a topic in suggestions board.

I will just add that prices are the same as last year.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: #Wr#blix# on December 27, 2017, 10:48:13 pm
Not really a suggestion just wasn't sure about this one. Anyway thanks.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Orochi on December 28, 2017, 11:40:55 am
When is the application deadline? can i still apply?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on December 28, 2017, 11:41:48 am
When is the application deadline? can i still apply?

yes you can apply now.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Shose on January 01, 2018, 04:39:00 pm
Can join for spectate only?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ROBBIN on January 01, 2018, 06:21:39 pm
YA War konsa server ma hogi ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: FulToN_619 on January 01, 2018, 06:25:14 pm
YA War konsa server ma hogi ?
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9120.0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SMD on January 01, 2018, 11:08:31 pm
I think players can't spec only staff can, But i am not sure.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: hotdogcat on January 02, 2018, 01:47:46 am
I think players can't spec only staff can, But i am not sure.

Right, only staff may spectate.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: JuaN. on January 03, 2018, 05:40:37 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: JuaN. on January 04, 2018, 12:53:12 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: WiLsOn on January 04, 2018, 01:22:56 pm
Beti hogi beta nh
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Dr.Shawn on January 04, 2018, 03:48:59 pm
Beti hogi beta nh
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nhq0dVN5RtQ
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: KILLERX. on January 04, 2018, 04:40:12 pm
players should be allowed to spectate in this way all can spectate if some one has doubt about any player if there is any good reason of not allowing it to players then its ok.
Thanks
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: WiLsOn on January 04, 2018, 04:47:59 pm
Allowing spec for players will ruin the fun imo, many players will go camp with sniper/rpg and their spot will be leaked.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: MD619 on January 04, 2018, 05:27:21 pm
players should be allowed to spectate in this way all can spectate if some one has doubt about any player if there is any good reason of not allowing it to players then its ok.
Thanks
Dear if you have doubt in any player then just poke any admin in-game :)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ElvenKing on January 05, 2018, 03:32:44 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sora_Blue on January 05, 2018, 03:34:10 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: lederhos on January 05, 2018, 04:46:30 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zeeshan.Bhatti on January 05, 2018, 05:26:10 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: FulToN_619 on January 05, 2018, 05:48:56 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: KILLERX. on January 05, 2018, 05:51:26 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ZUBI on January 05, 2018, 05:56:42 pm
Beta test then when this happens

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Title: Re: Questions
Post by: QarZ on January 05, 2018, 07:07:46 pm
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: aWaIx on January 06, 2018, 08:10:39 am
when beta test ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SanaullaH on January 06, 2018, 10:15:43 am
Quote ki Maa ka :v
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ElvenKing on January 06, 2018, 11:25:08 am
when beta test ?
reply modafuck
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SaM on January 06, 2018, 12:05:49 pm
when beta test ?
reply modafuck
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9120.0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 06, 2018, 03:15:46 pm
I got 2 pm for vice war registration but i am on only one gang please set me as "The Triumvirate" gang only. And remove me from any other gang. Thank you.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 07, 2018, 03:48:55 am
Reply damn
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on January 07, 2018, 03:51:14 am
Reply damn
Can't u see your rank.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 07, 2018, 04:53:54 am
Reply damn
Can't u see your rank.
I have accepted on "The night wolves" gang too but i already said that remove me from that gang. Now please just remove me from that gang and add in Triumvirate gang they have accepted me. Just do this and it will be a big pleasure.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: MD619 on January 07, 2018, 05:35:57 am
Reply damn
Can't u see your rank.
I have accepted on "The night wolves" gang too but i already said that remove me from that gang. Now please just remove me from that gang and add in Triumvirate gang they have accepted me. Just do this and it will be a big pleasure.
WTF
You are already in triumvirate man.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: klein. on January 07, 2018, 06:29:25 am
Reply damn
Can't u see your rank.
I have accepted on "The night wolves" gang too but i already said that remove me from that gang. Now please just remove me from that gang and add in Triumvirate gang they have accepted me. Just do this and it will be a big pleasure.
WTF
You are already in triumvirate man.

@MD_619 http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9208.0 understand what hes saying.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 07, 2018, 07:01:02 am
Whenever i get to that VW server its says me to spawn with night wolves gang but i want triumvirate gang to spawn with. Please solve it asap.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sora_Blue on January 07, 2018, 07:27:49 am
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: MD619 on January 07, 2018, 07:30:37 am
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 07, 2018, 08:31:04 am
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right, now pls fix it because i want to be with Triumvirate gang.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zeeshan.Bhatti on January 07, 2018, 11:01:01 am
SAB GOLMAAL BHAI SAB GOLMAAL HAI!
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: La[Z]eR on January 07, 2018, 12:17:59 pm
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right, now pls fix it because i want to be with Triumvirate gang.
Will fix it when axxo will prepare the script. :V
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 07, 2018, 12:52:49 pm
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right, now pls fix it because i want to be with Triumvirate gang.
Will fix it when axxo will prepare the script. :V
ok thanks.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Trex on January 07, 2018, 11:34:14 pm
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right, now pls fix it because i want to be with Triumvirate gang.
Will fix it when axxo will prepare the script. :V
Simple, he can just ask for re-register.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Pavonis on January 08, 2018, 11:33:22 am
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right, now pls fix it because i want to be with Triumvirate gang.
Will fix it when axxo will prepare the script. :V
Simple, he can just ask for re-register.
Whatever you guys gonna do just do but add me in triumvirate gang and remove from night wolves gang. That's it. Do it before the VW starts.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Deadmau5 on January 17, 2018, 08:39:49 pm
After playing the VW there will be cake?  ???
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: hotdogcat on January 17, 2018, 08:49:42 pm
After playing the VW there will be cake?  ???

Yes but not for you
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Anarki on January 19, 2018, 10:54:44 pm
After playing the VW there will be cake?  ???
incredulo xd
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: T_T on January 25, 2018, 04:45:03 pm
How did he get registered into 2 gangs to begin with.
In the server he is registered with Night Wolves gang and on the forum he has Triumvirate tag lol.
correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right, now pls fix it because i want to be with Triumvirate gang.
Will fix it when axxo will prepare the script. :V
*When aXXo want actually..Nevermind! ''
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SulkyPlayz on February 05, 2018, 10:26:06 am
How to Register on Server it syas goto forum
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GoRcEE on February 05, 2018, 11:12:18 am
How to Register on Server it syas goto forum
Check ur pm and note the registration key. Register in server with the following syntax:
/register <key> <password>
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SulkyPlayz on February 05, 2018, 12:18:16 pm
Thnx
 O0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Vedder on February 08, 2018, 12:41:23 am
Can i still register in a gang? Do i need aproval to register in The Wolf Pack?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Kelvin on April 03, 2018, 07:28:40 am
Is this going to happen? Been a very long time.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: krystianoo on April 03, 2018, 07:34:38 am
yes vote here for july

http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=9506.0
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GoRcEE on April 03, 2018, 07:51:34 am
Can i still register in a gang? Do i need aproval to register in The Wolf Pack?
If you applied already you would've gotten the registration key, if if you hadn't then you can apply in wolf pack and wait for staff for registration key.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Kelvin on April 03, 2018, 12:24:53 pm
Oh,i just didnt see the topic.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Almo on April 05, 2018, 05:16:09 pm
can i still join any gang?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on April 05, 2018, 05:27:41 pm
can i still join any gang?

Yes, in your case, once applications open you are free to join any other gang. If you were leaving from a previous gang however, you would have to ask for the gang leader's permission (as private boards for each gang have been implemented; if they alert admins that they wrote something they don't want ex members leaking, then we will keep you tied to that gang if you want to participate in VW)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: WiLsOn on April 05, 2018, 07:45:39 pm
can i still join any gang?
Hello? Wolf pack is VU?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Almo on April 06, 2018, 12:13:14 pm
can i still join any gang?
Hello? Wolf pack is VU?

wolfpack it is, waiting for the applications to reopen
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: NO_MERCY on April 06, 2018, 03:42:54 pm
Am I still allowed to join the event ?

- Ask questions here next time -  
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on April 06, 2018, 04:13:24 pm
Am I still allowed to join the event ?

No, for wanting to create an ultimatum with hacks, I banned you from the event itself back then. Although all bans are relinquished due to database rebuild, I'm still holding that punishment against your actions.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Saim on April 07, 2018, 11:33:27 am
I want to go in other gang, but I'm register with The Night Wolves  now i want to shuffle in "The Wolf Pack" It's Possible ?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on April 07, 2018, 12:19:49 pm
I want to go in other gang, but I'm register with The Night Wolves  now i want to shuffle in "The Wolf Pack" It's Possible ?

You need permission from your gang leader (he has to tell me directly or make the public announcement in his gang's topic, no word of mouth business). If he doesn't do that, we will assume there's private info he does not want leaked by his would be ex-member, thus you can't leave
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Vedder on April 10, 2018, 06:51:39 pm
Are we allowed to do c-glitch in the event?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ZAiM on April 10, 2018, 07:19:18 pm
Are we allowed to do c-glitch in the event?
lol Killah in VW7 , Frame limiter OFF and C-glitch is allowed all of things that is not allowed in LW is allowed in VW7 (except hacks , or any programs that gave you advantage at another players).
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: OmaRosh on April 10, 2018, 11:32:21 pm

edit: please delete this it was mistaken
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: karan on April 11, 2018, 05:35:15 am
Is there any balancing or something? there are more than 200-300 participants from various teams,  for example if only The wolf pack, and 2 other teams occupies whole 100/100 slot, what will be the scene left for rest of the teams..  just wondering, the number games should be fair at least,  even tho if some of them get disconnected or they leave after a while, still it won't be possible for other teams to match their scores lately,  I think so..  :s
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: KILLERX. on April 11, 2018, 08:29:35 am
Is there any balancing or something? there are more than 200-300 participants from various teams,  for example if only The wolf pack, and 2 other teams occupies whole 100/100 slot, what will be the scene left for rest of the teams..  just wondering, the number games should be fair at least,  even tho if some of them get disconnected or they leave after a while, still it won't be possible for other teams to match their scores lately,  I think so..  :s
i think you forgot its vcmp its impossible to get 100 players at once  :P :P
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: klein. on April 11, 2018, 08:52:05 am
Is there any balancing or something? there are more than 200-300 participants from various teams,  for example if only The wolf pack, and 2 other teams occupies whole 100/100 slot, what will be the scene left for rest of the teams..  just wondering, the number games should be fair at least,  even tho if some of them get disconnected or they leave after a while, still it won't be possible for other teams to match their scores lately,  I think so..  :s

yea, even paki and indians participants are more than 120 and they're GMT is same just difference of 30 mins (+5;00 and +5;30) if they play at same time rip vw
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on April 11, 2018, 12:54:51 pm
Is there any balancing or something? there are more than 200-300 participants from various teams,  for example if only The wolf pack, and 2 other teams occupies whole 100/100 slot, what will be the scene left for rest of the teams..  just wondering, the number games should be fair at least,  even tho if some of them get disconnected or they leave after a while, still it won't be possible for other teams to match their scores lately,  I think so..  :s

As KillerX said, we believe 100 players on the server may be impossible but as my philosophy is expect the unexpected, I've already ensured months ago that there was a measure in place regardless, in the event we're wrong and it just so happens. This is because I regard it as unfair play for a group to join the server and drown out the slots limiting competition. It's a garbage comparable to VW3's enemy team not spawning issue (since points were just from kills at the time).

For simplicity in the math, I'm going to use close but not true numbers. The algorithm works like this:

We have 300 members that have registered to the forums to participate

Lets say:

1) Triumvirate makes 90
2) Wolf Pack makes 80
3) Night Wolves make 50
4) Hindutva makes 30
5) Green Gas Garage makes 22
6) Hell Guardians make 20
7) Horrifying Killers (deleted but used for this example) makes 8

The first rule is that every gang must be able to play at all times. We control that by ruling a minimum of at least 5 players (the minimum you need to make your gang). There are 7 gangs in this example, which means 35 slots is split up and dedicated towards each one of them having a 5 player minimum on the server.

Then now the second rule is for every gang that has higher than x number of people, they will have a player slot limit proportioned to them. How this is done is that we divide the 100 player slots available by the 300 players participating to get 33.33%. That means 33.33% of the total of every gang is their maximum number of players that will be able to join.

So, that works out to be (rounded to the nearest whole):

1) Triumvirate - 30
2) Wolf Pack - 27
3) Night Wolves - 17
4) Hindutva - 10
5) Green Gas Garage - 7
6) Hell Guardians - 7
7) Horrifying Killers - 2?

The first rule (5 players per gang) is top priority, hence in the second rule we said "for every gang that has higher than x number of persons". What is the value of x? x is the quotient from the min players divided by the proportion calculated. So that 33.33%, change it to decimal to get 0.3333 then divide it into 5 and you should get 15. So if a group isn't above 15 players, they won't be proportionalized under the second rule and will only be given 5 player slots.

In doing this however, it shifts the equation slightly (you would get higher than 100 players if you proportioned everyone else and enforce 5 players on this one gang, they really should be 2). So what we do as a final step for these scenarios is we subtract the amount we enforce from the 100 and the total number of participants (300) that is used to deduce the proportion for each gang. So we only have 1 group that's enforced to have 5 players, that means we work with 95 / 295 instead of 100 / 300 for the proportion percentage.

95/295 = 32.20%

Which now means the final result will be:

1) Triumvirate - 29
2) Wolf Pack - 26
3) Night Wolves - 16
4) Hindutva - 10
5) Green Gas Garage - 7
6) Hell Guardians - 6
7) Horrifying Killers - 5

Think this adds up to 99 players due to rounding, we can give the extra 1 player in such case to the Horrifying Killers since they are the smallest group.



TL;DR

It's already being managed, you are in good hands as long as I have anything to do about it
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: karan on April 11, 2018, 01:30:01 pm
i think you forgot its vcmp its impossible to get 100 players at once  :P :P
If only LW can hit 95/100, at least for once then I don't think so it'll be surprising to see 100/100 in this VW, I've been playing vcmp since way long, witnessed some unexpected things all the time, you gotta think all way round before coming to a conclusion :D, you can't just make rules at the very last moment :x

yeah understandable, hope so we don't get to face the scenarios where people need to sit back on irc or discord and wait for their turn to play xD
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: klein. on April 12, 2018, 06:50:55 pm
Intentionally car-killing and car-surfing is allowed? Heli-blading?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on April 12, 2018, 07:04:53 pm
Intentionally car-killing and car-surfing is allowed? Heli-blading?

Yep, car-killing, car-surfing, heli-blading and if you're skilled enough, boat-killing, and heli/skimmer surfing, its all good. Just don't exploit bugs and don't slide. Wall-glitch is disabled by scripts. Full detail:


The following game exploits/features are not allowed:

  • Wallglitching is disabled by the scripts. Shooting snipers through walls is not allowed.
  • Sliding is not allowed.
  • Using rockets in close range combat is not allowed (20 meters).
  • Using first person view with any weapon except snipers and rocket is disabled by the scripts.
  • Abusing first person view to exploit sync is not allowed.
  • Ghost city is not allowed.
  • Entering bugged or glitches Vice City locations is not allowed.
  • Purchasing weapons during combat is not allowed.

Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Saim on April 18, 2018, 03:22:33 am
  • Purchasing weapons during combat is not allowed.

What?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on April 18, 2018, 12:45:51 pm
  • Purchasing weapons during combat is not allowed.

What?

To prevent an FPV bug being abused
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: RajPut on April 18, 2018, 12:54:49 pm
  • Sliding is not allowed.
LMB bug of 0.4?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Kyle. on April 25, 2018, 04:16:26 am
Hello There.

I register my nick 3 months ago with this nick [UF]Kyle  .. Now again server required registration.
https://i.imgur.com/yTXWcER.png
 (https://i.imgur.com/yTXWcER.png)I put my key which one i received from Vice Underdogs management. but it's show me This
https://i.imgur.com/18HxvHy.png (https://i.imgur.com/18HxvHy.png)

PS. I'm not from Unique Force now, I'm gonna change my nick too.


Message from Saim

He Recently Changed his name [UFr]Saim to Saim. and he did register his nick again, even got success in registration, after that Today he Join the Server and face this Problem.
1)UID Mismatch
After that I'm banned from the server.
https://i.imgur.com/quTOMZL.png
 (https://i.imgur.com/quTOMZL.png)





 
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Luckshya on April 25, 2018, 04:42:09 am
Hello There.

I register my nick 3 months ago with this nick [UF]Kyle  .. Now again server required registration.
https://i.imgur.com/yTXWcER.png
 (https://i.imgur.com/yTXWcER.png)I put my key which one i received from Vice Underdogs management. but it's show me This
https://i.imgur.com/18HxvHy.png (https://i.imgur.com/18HxvHy.png)

PS. I'm not from Unique Force now, I'm gonna change my nick too.


Message from Saim

He Recently Changed his name [UFr]Saim to Saim. and he did register his nick again, even got success in registration, after that Today he Join the Server and face this Problem.
1)UID Mismatch
After that I'm banned from the server.
https://i.imgur.com/quTOMZL.png
 (https://i.imgur.com/quTOMZL.png)
Your nick is [UF]Kyle instead of [UF]Kyle.

Also, Those UID Mismatch appeals go here: http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?board=253.0
Make sure Saim. posts that appeal with his account only.
Though I've examined what happened and it's completely legit, won't talk about it here anymore though.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zkq on May 13, 2018, 03:46:14 pm
Can we choose any skin for our gang?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on May 13, 2018, 07:44:14 pm
Can we choose any skin for our gang?

No, you can't choose female skins nor midget skins and it goes without saying that you can't choose the same skin as another gang (unless you custom skin it, we allow that). It's up to the gang leader to message me on that though, we can test the skin and implement it if all works well.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Zkq on May 13, 2018, 07:46:40 pm
Can we choose any skin for our gang?

No, you can't choose female skins nor midget skins and it goes without saying that you can't choose the same skin as another gang (unless you custom skin it, we allow that). It's up to the gang leader to message me on that though, we can test the skin and implement it if all works well.
Haitan skin is allowed?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on May 14, 2018, 12:44:14 am
Can we choose any skin for our gang?

No, you can't choose female skins nor midget skins and it goes without saying that you can't choose the same skin as another gang (unless you custom skin it, we allow that). It's up to the gang leader to message me on that though, we can test the skin and implement it if all works well.
Haitan skin is allowed?

Sure, Triumvirate using Cuban skin if memory serves me well. Just pick the skin ID Hell Guardians would want to go with and that skin will be theirs for VW
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ferrari32 on May 14, 2018, 05:54:16 pm
is flaming people in rage allowed??!??!
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: ripmemes on May 14, 2018, 05:58:02 pm
is flaming people in rage allowed??!??!
I hope yes  :P
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on May 14, 2018, 06:21:11 pm
is flaming people in rage allowed??!??!

Sure, but if they report you on racism (we allow some level of racist banter between parties) we'll prompt you to stop. Non-compliance = kick to temp-ban, depending on the scenario and if I'm in a good mood myself
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Sawyer on May 17, 2018, 06:04:04 am
Lo siento, ando un poco perdido, una fecha aproximada del  evento?

When it starts(?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: lederhos on May 17, 2018, 07:58:42 am
It'll take place on July 7, at least that says one of the information topics.  :police:
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: KILLERX. on June 11, 2018, 01:22:07 am
Why only one unban appeal is acceptable?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on June 11, 2018, 06:47:08 am
Why only one unban appeal is acceptable?

No. Only for UID mismatch issues that is effectively so, but any other ban issue can have multiple appeals
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: killerkid on June 28, 2018, 11:51:35 am
I dont know if this is the right topic to ask but i have some questions.
1.I registered my account on the server from a laptop which i have no longer access to.If i login with the other laptop will i get banned ?
2.If yes will i have a chance to get unban?
3.Will there be any chance for getting unbanned a day before event by posting an unban appeal?
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: GangstaRas on June 28, 2018, 12:38:00 pm
I dont know if this is the right topic to ask but i have some questions.
1.I registered my account on the server from a laptop which i have no longer access to.If i login with the other laptop will i get banned ?
2.If yes will i have a chance to get unban?
3.Will there be any chance for getting unbanned a day before event by posting an unban appeal?

1. Yes you will get auto-banned by the server
2. Yes, only 1 chance however
3. Yes, but only day before, if you post on the day of the event we will ignore/deny your request
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SulkyPlayz on July 06, 2018, 05:13:29 pm
i want to ask when war is and time of pakistan???
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Vedder on July 06, 2018, 05:16:07 pm
i want to ask when war is and time of pakistan???

The event date is July 7, 0:00 GMT.

For pakistan, it will start in July 7 at 5 AM; and it will end in July 8 at the same hour.
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SulkyPlayz on July 06, 2018, 05:22:51 pm
whenever i try to join this comes i want to check that iam registerd or not?? pleaseee help me anyone??please????
(https://i.imgur.com/u2tYe8A.png)
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: Vedder on July 06, 2018, 05:43:09 pm
whenever i try to join this comes i want to check that iam registerd or not?? pleaseee help me anyone??please????
(https://i.imgur.com/u2tYe8A.png)
Go to your VCMP Browser -> Tools -> Settings and put this in the Updater URL text:

http://u04.vc-mp.org/
Title: Re: Questions
Post by: SulkyPlayz on July 06, 2018, 05:45:29 pm
Thank u so much :D