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Vice Underdogs Recruitment => Denied Applications => Topic started by: Sevrin on January 04, 2020, 07:58:15 pm

Title: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sevrin on January 04, 2020, 07:58:15 pm
Nick: sevrin

Age: 19

Timezone/Country: GMT+5:00

Previous Nicks: =TRC=sevrin*PL, =TRC=k4i, =TRC=kai

Additional Comments: Greetings everyone!

About past:

For the ones who don't know much about my past. So I started playing VCMP from like 2012(or 2011, I don't remember exactly), from that time till 2013 or 14 and took a break of one year from the game, then came back and applied in VU, after several attempts, I was accepted and spending few months in the clan, because of those situations that time and conditions, I decided to leave the clan.

((In those times, I was part of many clans including MLK, VLK, FZ, and maybe more I don't remember much about 0.3z times, memory ain't strong xD))

After that I was clan-less, and then started applying for TRC, it suited me all the way, at my 4th application I was accepted in it. I spend a great time with my folks, got promoted to Captain rank, everything was going perfect. In mean time, I forgot my past and let go everything while I was in the clan and made myself comfortable there. I had a lot lot of fun with me other clan mates even when they were inactive or I was inactive, we were always in touch all the time. Later on, TRC was closed previous year, in March 2019, by our leader morphine. I have the best time of my VCMP span in TRC, and will never forget that, I learned a lot from my seniors and other members, and really grateful to them for standing with me all the time, love ya pals.

I was inactive that time because of IRL hiccups, after a month I came back, I was still using the clan tag until VW8 is finished, I & Omarosh wanted to keep the tag until VW is done, I wanted to represent myself with my past clan's honor & respect for the last time in a VW.

I was inactive for couple of months in between because of university, as now I have final exams of my 1st semester, I've scheduled myself to play the game, I am like 90% at weekends(Including Friday) and sometimes on working days.

Reason for applying:

At first when TRC got closed, I thought of quitting the game and just coming for once in a month or so and have fun without being in a clan. But when I started to get on activity, I felt like applying in a clan, I & Omar discussed for quite a time to join a clan together and we both decided to apply here.

Because I have like really really great friends in here, if I start mentioning their names, its going to be a long list, secondly, I spend my precious free time in this game, to lower out all the stress and tension of work, and I want to spend that with some good friendly mates to have hell of a fun and enjoyment, and VU is that place. Its a respectful clan because of its friendly & skillful members. Its one of the great clans in history of VC:MP, hosting major events and projects of servers, which is really hard & good thing to do for the community.

I didn't write that much, because most of the ones know me very well here and I also know them very well.

If any of you have any sort a question to ask, or if there's a misunderstanding or an issue, hook me up!

Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Thomas on January 04, 2020, 08:20:21 pm
ummm meet more VUs.

I know that I've not been here when you were a part of VU, but after reading some serious shit,
I came to a personal conclusion that you left a huge question mark on your loyalty and behavior for others new recruits to come.

I'm not satisfied of what you put up in this huge paragraph, not convincing enough for me.

I'll go with no, nothing personal, but this is what i concluded from the stuff I've seen and investigated personally about you.

Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sevrin on January 04, 2020, 08:25:33 pm
ummm meet more VUs.

I know that I've not been here when you were a part of VU, but after reading some serious shit,
I came to a personal conclusion that you left a huge question mark on your loyalty and behavior for others new recruits to come.

I'm not satisfied of what you put up in this huge paragraph, not convincing enough for me.

I'll go with no, nothing personal, but this is what i concluded from the stuff I've seen and investigated personally about you.


I respect your vote and your opinion, as its your choice. Just clearing the point you raised my loyalty, I have proved that fact by my stay in TRC, I was loyal to them for 3 years and then it got closed, and even after 9 months of that I applied in a clan after a deep thinking, which is VU.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Thomas on January 04, 2020, 08:27:59 pm
ummm meet more VUs.

I know that I've not been here when you were a part of VU, but after reading some serious shit,
I came to a personal conclusion that you left a huge question mark on your loyalty and behavior for others new recruits to come.

I'm not satisfied of what you put up in this huge paragraph, not convincing enough for me.

I'll go with no, nothing personal, but this is what i concluded from the stuff I've seen and investigated personally about you.


I respect your vote and your opinion, as its your choice. Talking about my loyalty, I have proved that fact by my stay in TRC, I was loyal to them for 3 years and then it got closed, and even after 9 months of that I applied in a clan after a deep thinking, which is VU, so yeah, I will be loyal ofc.
a quick question, why did you leave VU in first place?
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Nyon410 on January 04, 2020, 08:31:48 pm
I don't know you very well, Meet me in VCCNR or LW's.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sevrin on January 04, 2020, 08:36:53 pm
ummm meet more VUs.

I know that I've not been here when you were a part of VU, but after reading some serious shit,
I came to a personal conclusion that you left a huge question mark on your loyalty and behavior for others new recruits to come.

I'm not satisfied of what you put up in this huge paragraph, not convincing enough for me.

I'll go with no, nothing personal, but this is what i concluded from the stuff I've seen and investigated personally about you.


I respect your vote and your opinion, as its your choice. Talking about my loyalty, I have proved that fact by my stay in TRC, I was loyal to them for 3 years and then it got closed, and even after 9 months of that I applied in a clan after a deep thinking, which is VU, so yeah, I will be loyal ofc.
a quick question, why did you leave VU in first place?

You can find that out in my leaving topic, but those times were different, I was different, situations changed. I am not like that I used to be, I had learnt a lot being part of a clan, how things and everything works. Then I stood loyal to it until it was closed.

Look, the way I used to think in past is totally different from that, I am already a grown up fighting with many things, which made me learn many things, how to tackle the difficulties, how to make yourself and others comfortable. I fight the difficulties and fix them rather than running away from them. If I find anything hurts someone, I just don't it at all, if I find someone likes something I do, I do it often. I am just happy like in every situation, even its more than worse, some quality I learnt from real life and also after staying in a clan for a long time to handle everything. Just an example, If someone votes negative, I won't be unhappy, if someone votes positive, I will be happy, in both cases I am "happy", so now there is going to be like nothing which will make me feel uncomfortable or something like that I used to have in the "past".



I don't know you very well, Meet me in VCCNR or LW's.

I don't play Vccnr, will meet you soon in LWs tho, I usually play in EAD, Argonath, RTV, CTF, EG A/D or EA.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Thomas on January 04, 2020, 08:46:32 pm
Reminds me of my DZ clan.
I'll change my vote accordingly as this application progresses, but for now I'll go with neutral since i also feel that 3 years is a long time.
I hope it doesn't make you feel bad as well.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: BliTz on January 04, 2020, 08:47:39 pm
+ve from me
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: lederhos on January 04, 2020, 08:50:45 pm
I'm voting no, I don't trust you and I often find you as a person who likes talking a lot, but doing nothing. To be honest the image I have from you is pretty negative in spite of your apparent kindness, I have met you since Megawar's times when you had that Severeno nick and so far you have made huge achievements like joining VU and TRC and becoming a staff member of very important servers, though, what I have seen about your personality is pretty unconvincing.

You have always been a person of sweet words but actions, what about the actions? You said you were representing VU for life (sweet words) but left, and that's some stupid shit, I know, but the impression left was negative. VU has changed in many aspects, I have had the chance of experiencing some of the latests changes, and I can clearly say this is a place where I think you won't fit. Anyway, that's only my opinion, good luck with the rest of votes.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sevrin on January 04, 2020, 08:54:51 pm
I'm voting no, I don't trust you and I often find you as a person who likes talking a lot, but doing nothing. To be honest the image I have from you is pretty negative in spite of your apparent kindness, I have met you since Megawar's times when you had that Severeno nick and so far you have made huge achievements like joining VU and TRC and becoming a staff member of very important servers, though, what I have seen about your personality is pretty unconvincing.

You have always been a person of sweet words but actions, what about the actions? You said you were representing VU for life (sweet words) but left, and that's some stupid shit, I know, but the impression left was negative. VU has changed in many aspects, I have had the chance of experiencing some of the latests changes, and I can clearly say this is a place where I think you won't fit. Anyway, that's only my opinion, good luck with the rest of votes.
Man of words, not of actions, something I used to be, not anymore. Its been 3 years since that, I changed a lot, experienced a lot and suffered a lot.
I do what I say now, and I really do think before talking as of now, if I can do it, I say it, otherwise I won't say it. Your observation about me was right, but that fitted on my past, not on my present. But still its your decision, respected.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: krystianoo on January 04, 2020, 09:46:30 pm
Why do all of you guys want to join VU? Establish your own clans together, help the already-existing smaller ones: become the Charleyutton you want to join so bad! Remember he named the clan Anti-roofers Anti-spazzers clan at first.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sevrin on January 04, 2020, 09:54:43 pm
Why do all of you guys want to join VU? Establish your own clans together, help the already-existing smaller ones: become the Charleyutton you want to join so bad! Remember he named the clan Anti-roofers Anti-spazzers clan at first.
I know very well about the hostility which is lacking in VCMP, the way it used to be is now almost equal to zero. I could've made a new clan but it requires a lot of time, hardwork and ambition to do. And that's what I can't do, if I wanted to, I could've done it after TRC was closed, but I lacked the activity and busy IRL schedule. Its not that I never had it in mind, I did but the things I mentioned were not with me so I dropped the idea and decided to join a clan instead which suits me. I really respect what you've said, and current situation requires some competition in game to keep it more alive and interesting.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sawyer on January 05, 2020, 12:08:31 am
TambiƩn R para ti
Good luck both of you ex TRC
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Zatch on January 05, 2020, 12:17:59 am
Trainee as a trial to gain again the trust of the majority of members. You have all the experience you gained since the last time you were here so It will be easy for you. Good luck!
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: DiaZ on January 05, 2020, 03:09:13 am
I will go with trainee. Zatch already stated the reason.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Dr.Shawn on January 05, 2020, 05:37:45 am
Leaving topic
https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=6550.0

I guess VU has changed yet again, you know the problem here ?
We all don't know when you will start thinking that *VU has changed again*.
My vote would be negative or neutral at best.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Aegon on January 05, 2020, 09:21:53 am
Good luck homie  :D
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Siezer on January 05, 2020, 09:31:28 am
I'm certainly in a quandary right now. Although, good to see you back, sev. I've no complete idea about the dynamics during the time you left us but besides the loyalty factor, I want to glean few more things before casting vote.

I like you as an individual, you're a hardworking man but after all it takes time to repair what is broken, sev. My only suggestion to you is, stay determined. The criticism which will be bombarded to you, don't take it as a hate proposal. Any clan and members of it would be sharing same thoughts as some of us are doing right now because during the time you left, people were expecting from you to help them and certainly VU since it was a temporary downfall for us (before you, some other fellas left too).
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: ferrari32 on January 05, 2020, 09:40:00 am
Knowing you for quite a while, I'd say you didn't change at all. Having said that, VU and TRC are two quite different clans. In one of them someone was always there to zip your loud mouth, and in the other we encourage a bit of autonomy, which just ain't gonna happen with you again.

I wish you good luck, but as far as I'm concerned this door is closed.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Charley on January 05, 2020, 11:25:55 am
My vote is neutral, because I haven't played with you for many years Sevrin.

A couple of things, though. First:

Why do all of you guys want to join VU? Establish your own clans together

I also feel this pretty strongly. On the one hand I'm happy that VU's reputation is such that renowned players wish to join our ranks. On the other, it's fucking boring when one clan comes to dominate. The point of VU in the first place was to rival the main clans of the time, DnA, KFJ, MK and ULK. I saw them, and I thought I could do better.

I want someone who's capable, active, and charasmatic to start a clan that rivals VU. Let's get some real competition going. Hell, I'll even mentor whoever it is, I'll write down the most important lessons I learned buliding the clan (I actually failed 3 times over the course of about 8 months before we changed our name to VU, and I made so many mistakes thereafter, there are a lot of lessons I learned and can help you avoid.)

Second,

The idea that 'VU has changed' is something that people have been saying since a few months after we started. Here's the thing: yes, there have been some superficial changes, and yes members have come or gone. But essentially, at its core, VU has been the same since day 1. We have been working towards a singular goal, guided by a singular ethos (that we published publicly last year (https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10239.0)) for the last 11 years. This has never changed, and never will.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Sevrin on January 05, 2020, 12:15:44 pm
My vote is neutral, because I haven't played with you for many years Sevrin.

A couple of things, though. First:

Why do all of you guys want to join VU? Establish your own clans together

I also feel this pretty strongly. On the one hand I'm happy that VU's reputation is such that renowned players wish to join our ranks. On the other, it's fucking boring when one clan comes to dominate. The point of VU in the first place was to rival the main clans of the time, DnA, KFJ, MK and ULK. I saw them, and I thought I could do better.

I want someone who's capable, active, and charasmatic to start a clan that rivals VU. Let's get some real competition going. Hell, I'll even mentor whoever it is, I'll write down the most important lessons I learned buliding the clan (I actually failed 3 times over the course of about 8 months before we changed our name to VU, and I made so many mistakes thereafter, there are a lot of lessons I learned and can help you avoid.)

Second,

The idea that 'VU has changed' is something that people have been saying since a few months after we started. Here's the thing: yes, there have been some superficial changes, and yes members have come or gone. But essentially, at its core, VU has been the same since day 1. We have been working towards a singular goal, guided by a singular ethos (that we published publicly last year (https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10239.0)) for the last 11 years. This has never changed, and never will.

I also want to have some serious competition in the game, to keep this thing alive. The previous times, when there was ULK, then DnA and then TRC which was giving tough competition to VU SS, major clans. The hostility was keeping this thing alive, and now it totally vanished and we do not see any competition at all right now in VC:MP, previous VW is an example of that, one big side was dominating.

Like in previous year/s, there was TRC WK & co. VS VU SS & co. These rivalries were keeping the game interesting and there was a lot of competition. But now, the left side above totally vanished, so the hostility & rivalry died.


I want my application to be closed, I will decide something which can help this game stay alive and bring back the competition it used to have in the past. Thanks a lot for everyone who has voted, many things were pointed out which helped me think more, thanks again to some VUs who were with me before, I hope this decision doesn't harms them.
Also thanks to krystianoo, morphine & Charley, Wilson for the motivating me to open my own clan, not for myself but for VCMP, to bring back the competition.
Title: Re: Application - sevrin
Post by: Siezer on January 05, 2020, 12:18:29 pm
Great! I wish to see you with a BANG, sev. Good luck.

Application closed.