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Archive => General Discussion => Vice War 8: Renegade's Strife => Archived Events => Suggestions => Topic started by: GangstaRas on December 24, 2018, 02:16:48 pm
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It is with deep regret that I must bring the unfortunate news that I am forced to postpone Vice War 8, however, it is not a huge postpone at all. The idea is this.
For every Vice War, there has to be a beta at least a week before...the map development has missed that deadline. If it was regular VC map, then a beta would still go on in shortened time, but as its not, it is imperative we give the week for participants to get accustomed to the map.
So, the idea is that the 29th of December will now be the beta of VW, and the 5th of January will be the event. We apologize for the inconvenience once more. By vote, I want to know if this is ok with the participants.
If I see a resounding no, we'll figure something out, but if a resounding yes, we will go with this plan. Feel free to make suggestions however on dates that would be suitable for you and possibly the majority of the crowd.
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One week doesn't hurts that much. I'd go with a Yes.
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I surely won’t be able to participate if it gets postponed.
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I surely won’t be able to participate if it gets postponed.
I can't for 5th of january, make it either 12 january or 19 january.
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why not.. after all you make the event, you put the effort up - if somebody has a problem with waiting one more week, fuck him
yes
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yes
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why not.. after all you make the event, you put the effort up - if somebody has a problem with waiting one more week, fuck him
yes
I totally understand the pressure on VW staff admins because of the large work and the small amount of time given to them to finish the event, I even volunteered to help in some translations ( If you want me to help you in something concerning the event atm, PM me on discord )
but it is not fair to postpone the event 5 days before its launch, especially when there are some people who need time before the event to set up some things ( like a trip or something like that ).
me, personally, not sure if I am going to pay my internet service provider directly at 1 january. that depends on my parents' money capacity, if there are too many bills then they are not going to pay it until few days later, when they clear up their priorities. Sometimes they pay it nine days after the end of the month.
You gotta understand players' condition calhoun, it is not about waiting, we are all PATIENT.
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Yes
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no
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why not.. after all you make the event, you put the effort up - if somebody has a problem with waiting one more week, fuck him
yes
I totally understand the pressure on VW staff admins because of the large work and the small amount of time given to them to finish the event, I even volunteered to help in some translations ( If you want me to help you in something concerning the event atm, PM me on discord )
but it is not fair to postpone the event 5 days before its launch, especially when there are some people who need time before the event to set up some things ( like a trip or something like that ).
me, personally, not sure if I am going to pay my internet service provider directly at 1 january. that depends on my parents' money capacity, if there are too many bills then they are not going to pay it until few days later, when they clear up their priorities. Sometimes they pay it nine days after the end of the month.
You gotta understand players' condition calhoun, it is not about waiting, we are all PATIENT.
and you gotta understand event conditions
event not ready yet = might be a shit event
ye it's probably a bad move announcing it 5 days before the launch I'll give you that
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No. make it later
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I vote 2028
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why not.. after all you make the event, you put the effort up - if somebody has a problem with waiting one more week, fuck him
yes
I totally understand the pressure on VW staff admins because of the large work and the small amount of time given to them to finish the event, I even volunteered to help in some translations ( If you want me to help you in something concerning the event atm, PM me on discord )
but it is not fair to postpone the event 5 days before its launch, especially when there are some people who need time before the event to set up some things ( like a trip or something like that ).
me, personally, not sure if I am going to pay my internet service provider directly at 1 january. that depends on my parents' money capacity, if there are too many bills then they are not going to pay it until few days later, when they clear up their priorities. Sometimes they pay it nine days after the end of the month.
You gotta understand players' condition calhoun, it is not about waiting, we are all PATIENT.
Well, we cannot decide the day of event launch because one person doesn't satisfy the availability. Although if even ends up with unfinished stuff and untested script, it won't be fun to play with, i hope you're getting the idea of unfinished work.
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I am TOTALLY aware of that, what I am trying to say is make it later not 5th of january as most people are busy due to the fact that this postpone came out 5 days before event, and they didn't take the change into their minds. This postpome should have came out one/two weeks ago so people can arrange their stuff in order to clear their priorities and become able to play. The only solution now is to make the event's date either 12 or 19 of january.
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Panzer think on what you're saying outside your own perspective (and the perspective of the consumers that relate to you). What would be the mindset of developers 1 to 2 weeks ago from today if today was the event? Simply that the time is enough to prepare the event for its decided debut.
Your outlook on the discernment of the time needed by developers is tainted by what is necessary for you to be able to participate. So while I do understand the courtesy point you're making, given the situation, a message like this cannot be anything but short notice. And for those that have been waiting, it is more courteous of me to provide a time that is sooner than later as best as possible.
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Yes. So i fix the FU :angel: fps or buy new pc
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No prob, let it be on 5th January,meanwhile i will prepare my
F1 and UF.asi
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No prob, let it be on 5th January,meanwhile i will prepare my
F1 and UF.asi
Ban is being prepared too then xD
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why not.. after all you make the event, you put the effort up - if somebody has a problem with waiting one more week, fuck him
yes
I totally understand the pressure on VW staff admins because of the large work and the small amount of time given to them to finish the event, I even volunteered to help in some translations ( If you want me to help you in something concerning the event atm, PM me on discord )
but it is not fair to postpone the event 5 days before its launch, especially when there are some people who need time before the event to set up some things ( like a trip or something like that ).
me, personally, not sure if I am going to pay my internet service provider directly at 1 january. that depends on my parents' money capacity, if there are too many bills then they are not going to pay it until few days later, when they clear up their priorities. Sometimes they pay it nine days after the end of the month.
You gotta understand players' condition calhoun, it is not about waiting, we are all PATIENT.
and you gotta understand event conditions
event not ready yet = might be a shit event
ye it's probably a bad move announcing it 5 days before the launch I'll give you that
If you would have understand event conditions you wouldn't leak stuff.
I can wait :D
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why not.. after all you make the event, you put the effort up - if somebody has a problem with waiting one more week, fuck him
yes
I totally understand the pressure on VW staff admins because of the large work and the small amount of time given to them to finish the event, I even volunteered to help in some translations ( If you want me to help you in something concerning the event atm, PM me on discord )
but it is not fair to postpone the event 5 days before its launch, especially when there are some people who need time before the event to set up some things ( like a trip or something like that ).
me, personally, not sure if I am going to pay my internet service provider directly at 1 january. that depends on my parents' money capacity, if there are too many bills then they are not going to pay it until few days later, when they clear up their priorities. Sometimes they pay it nine days after the end of the month.
You gotta understand players' condition calhoun, it is not about waiting, we are all PATIENT.
and you gotta understand event conditions
event not ready yet = might be a shit event
ye it's probably a bad move announcing it 5 days before the launch I'll give you that
If you would have understand event conditions you wouldn't leak stuff.
I can wait :D
I did not leak anything of the event itself. Inform yourself before. And that has nothing to do with this.
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Well, I was thinking about other people, what I wrote above is just only my opinion and the decision is up to you after all.
Honestly, it is unlikely I am not going to participate.
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yes
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Well, I was thinking about other people, what I wrote above is just only my opinion and the decision is up to you after all.
Honestly, it is unlikely I am not going to participate.
Many dudes are not going to play at 5th of January. You are not the one.
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Ok, seeing as how the difference is closer to 50/50 than anticipated, for those on the denying side, communicate, what would be more favourable for you? Bare in mind that the original date of the 29th is out of the question, so that can't be a suggestion.
Vote this post Agree if you want an even later date in January
Vote this post Friendly if you want it in February to Easter holiday (April 19th regions)
Vote this post Optimistic if you want it in Summer 2019
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Ok, seeing as how the difference is closer to 50/50 than anticipated, for those on the denying side, communicate, what would be more favourable for you? Bare in mind that the original date of the 29th is out of the question, so that can't be a suggestion.
Vote this post Agree if you want an even later date in January
Vote this post Friendly if you want it in February to Easter holiday (April 19th regions)
Vote this post Optimistic if you want it in Summer 2019
and funny for?
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Well, 1 week has proven to be a lil too short for me, so tbh the end of January looking more attractive but thus far the weight of Easter and end of January seems even.
Gonna start a new poll
For record:
65 votes, 41 yes, 24 no for Jan 5 proposal.
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Most of the dudes may have exams at the end of February and start of March, April is also good but let’s see. How about early summers?
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April. :blank:
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April
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Buta madre vote Jan.
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old system pls,fucking new system
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Do it on either start of January or on Easter
End of January? WTF, many of the players will be having exam at this end of January and start of February
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I have exams do it in 5 January :/
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exams problem.Kindly do it on 5th January.
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exams problem.Kindly do it on 5th January.
+1
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exams problem.Kindly do it on 5th January.
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the 5th of January is unfortunately no longer possible, but if I get the cooperation I need from my team, end of January/first of February should definitely be good. Let's see what happens.
But in the mean-time, please enjoy this sneak peak of the map ;D
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465941271232643082/529569026578448414/unknown.png)
It's in its alpha stages
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the 5th of January is unfortunately no longer possible, but if I get the cooperation I need from my team, end of January/first of February should definitely be good. Let's see what happens.
But in the mean-time, please enjoy this sneak peak of the map ;D
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465941271232643082/529569026578448414/unknown.png)
It's in its alpha stages
I have exams it will be good if you do it in between 11-23 january
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yes but any other way to pass the tests pl
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yes but any other way to pass the tests pl
get a better pc xD.
Edit: i almost forgot to write, your pc fails at Test 2, so this is also the matter of CPU you're using, probably killing background apps may help, also your GPU is not powerful enough to help you pass the GPU ( test 4) consider changing your machine.
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yes but any other way to pass the tests pl
hey there dude, you can try lowering your ingame resolution. Also, if possible, tell us your pc specs so we can have a more accurate idea to help you.
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yes but any other way to pass the tests pl
hey there dude, you can try lowering your ingame resolution. Also, if possible, tell us your pc specs so we can have a more accurate idea to help you.
cannot go lower than 640x480 xD
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End of January PLS. I have my CIE approaching in April, impossible for me to play.
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Unfortunately, we now have scripter issues which threatens the event itself....its debut not looking promising. If there are worthy volunteers to take on the responsibility, then I would appreciate that, if not, well the most blunt way I can put this is that VW8 wont be happening
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Why making a so complex Server? Make this Vice War like the past ones (VW 3 - VW 6): simple but entertaining and enjoyable; no hard scripts, with the original map of Vice City (If I'm not wrong this Vice War is aimed to happen in a Custom Map).
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Why making a so complex Server? Make this Vice War like the past ones (VW 3 - VW 6): simple but entertaining and enjoyable; no hard scripts, with the original map of Vice City (If I'm not wrong this Vice War is aimed to happen in a Custom Map).
This ViceWar is supposed to be more like past ones. "Simple" it's truly relative as it was never a simple script I believe, regardless of the gamemode. Actually the map has a fair progress and detached from the server development, precisely the script part is the culprit.
The division of the tasks made it so that each sector can work independently.
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Why making a so complex Server? Make this Vice War like the past ones (VW 3 - VW 6): simple but entertaining and enjoyable; no hard scripts, with the original map of Vice City (If I'm not wrong this Vice War is aimed to happen in a Custom Map).
I disagree, a creative and unique server which has a new and perfect idea, but takes a long time to be done better than a server like the one vw6 or maybe before but not so interesting now. There is a new map 3D designed, so even if we waited until summer np.
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Well I fail to see the need for all those ass kicking super ultra spectacular features at all. Then a custom map which takes shitloads of time and effort to make it and kinda kills the game a bit. And all of that just to play a one-sided festival once again as nobody seems to focus on balancing teams. Damn i don't know...
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Arghhh chill the fuck out guys, it's not about the map, go and read ganga's post carefully.
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Well I fail to see the need for all those ass kicking super ultra spectacular features at all. Then a custom map which takes shitloads of time and effort to make it and kinda kills the game a bit. And all of that just to play a one-sided festival once again as nobody seems to focus on balancing teams. Damn i don't know...
I'll put it this way, cuz what you said, and in extension your ass of a mindset absolutely ticked the fucking shit out of me.
Ever since VW5, every March I develop a VW. Remember why VW7 was "revived"? Because we had scripter issues, as is now. You cant have an event without a script, right? Even when VW7 wasnt assured a scripter I still laid these plans for VW8.
Map development (which I handle) takes awhile yes but was never the issue behind delays cuz Ive been working through that time, its the scripts that have been lagging 80% of the time. How? Even if this wasnt a custom map and we used VC map, even if VW8 server was just to be scripted and say "welcome" when you join, with nothing else to the server, how the fuck would you even have that without a script?
Then you come with your shit about no one focusing on balancing teams, all the unnecessaries of the event x y z, old gamemode, all the complaining in the world that I try my fucking best like a jackass to listen to and appeal to....and you cant even say thank you for your efforts, thank you for listening, thank you for trying, thank you for the time you put in.....
Not one of you have the right to talk that shit here, not one, I work way too fucking hard for you, the people, for ungrateful talk like that. Youre so blind that you cant even see how simple this gamemode really is. Its like youre just programmed to bark your ill expectancy of the event if issues arise. Thats all your being good for and I dont need that from the community Im trying my best to serve. Theres a better way to voice your concerns than the fuckry you just pulled out of blind hate because clearly you not reading a thing.
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hahahah i love this gangaras version
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i would like to add: The efforts, we the developers and staff put into making this event for FREE of charge, a good "thank you" would be nice from anyone who likes to participate.
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You kinda took it the wrong way there or i wasnt just clear anough once again but it wasnt a hate comment or anything like that whatsoever.
I guess the 'moaning about balance' part triggered you the most (yeah that wasnt necesarry), still i didnt even attempt to sort of blame anyone or something.
And holy shit i'm not criticizing anyone for putting efforts into something- actually the opposite. Sory for this mess
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You kinda took it the wrong way there or i wasnt just clear anough once again but it wasnt a hate comment or anything like that whatsoever.
I guess the 'moaning about balance' part triggered you the most (yeah that wasnt necesarry), still i didnt even attempt to sort of blame anyone or something.
And holy shit i'm not criticizing anyone for putting efforts into something- actually the opposite. Sory for this mess
about being unbalanced, there's only around 10 players difference that isn't going to matter much i think, more players will join when this event will be properly advertised.
More info @ https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=10213.0
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Patience is key, we may enjoy more in custom map, I have no problems with the postponing VW8 , though my PC is RIP xD I don't know when it will be fixed.
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31st March 2019 (Sunday)
Till the time it is over, it would be April Fool's day. So much pun potential. :thumbsup:
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Log: 66 for End of January, 18 for Easter Season
Bumping this topic.
Progress is going well for Vice War and a beta launch is coming VERY SOON. Definitely optimistic about a June launch, however, many of you have expressed to me that you are under exams.
Seeing as this is the most drastic Vice War change yet, and will prove to be one of the most unique VC:MP experiences you'll ever have, whether old or new, I wouldn't want anyone to really miss this. So I'm drawing for the polls once more.
Vote for if you would like a June release or a July release; the July release would be similar to VW7, i.e. July 6th, 2019. I can't give a definitive date in June but I'd say the 3rd week of June. So, start voting!
To those who still need to do the benchmark, we are under the process of getting the benchmark server back up and ready, please be patient don't worry too much about it.
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Did u play this at 6th? And if not when it will happen?
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Did u play this at 6th? And if not when it will happen?
No we didn't play the 6th. Some things came up for me during the June period which slowed down the entire process. In terms of when, I don't really want to give a date anymore cuz chances are I may miss that deadline yet again due to availability of the team, but I didn't really want to push beyond say 20th of July
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Were not ya guys said that the vice war will be in July?
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Were not ya guys said that the vice war will be in July?
The staff is doing all they could to make the launch as soon as possible... Wish them all good luck rather than asking these questions ^-^
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First of all good luck in doing such a big vcmp project and
Secondly, Can we expect this ViceWar launch in the August?
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Secondly, Can we expect this ViceWar launch in the August?
In terms of a beta launch, trying our best to get that done in that timeframe, yes, but again, all dependent on the availability of the team. Main event though, I probably would not launch such in August.
The holiday window has been missed, many participants waiting for this Vice War aren't available anymore, plus I've created a haphardness to the dating schedule due to believing that we could have been finished already, causing confusion and potential disinterest. Therefore, it would not be beneficial to the event to launch right now, and would likely cause pandemonium and rerun requests from all of the zealous fans missing out. I'm not about that drama, and the event date has always been around max availability, so, the main event will be shifted to the Christmas Holidays, while the beta I'm preparing should suffice for all those wanting action right now. Fair enough?
As a briefing of the progress, really and truly, things are 98% done, both map and script, but the 2% would cause a serious enough dysfunction at the moment which is what we're ironing out. It's all a matter of right timing though to test and iron out these issues.
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Secondly, Can we expect this ViceWar launch in the August?
In terms of a beta launch, trying our best to get that done in that timeframe, yes, but again, all dependent on the availability of the team. Main event though, I probably would not launch such in August.
The holiday window has been missed, many participants waiting for this Vice War aren't available anymore, plus I've created a haphardness to the dating schedule due to believing that we could have been finished already, causing confusion and potential disinterest. Therefore, it would not be beneficial to the event to launch right now, and would likely cause pandemonium and rerun requests from all of the zealous fans missing out. I'm not about that drama, and the event date has always been around max availability, so, the main event will be shifted to the Christmas Holidays, while the beta I'm preparing should suffice for all those wanting action right now. Fair enough?
As a briefing of the progress, really and truly, things are 98% done, both map and script, but the 2% would cause a serious enough dysfunction at the moment which is what we're ironing out. It's all a matter of right timing though to test and iron out these issues.
You mean event will be on 25 December?
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Secondly, Can we expect this ViceWar launch in the August?
In terms of a beta launch, trying our best to get that done in that timeframe, yes, but again, all dependent on the availability of the team. Main event though, I probably would not launch such in August.
The holiday window has been missed, many participants waiting for this Vice War aren't available anymore, plus I've created a haphardness to the dating schedule due to believing that we could have been finished already, causing confusion and potential disinterest. Therefore, it would not be beneficial to the event to launch right now, and would likely cause pandemonium and rerun requests from all of the zealous fans missing out. I'm not about that drama, and the event date has always been around max availability, so, the main event will be shifted to the Christmas Holidays, while the beta I'm preparing should suffice for all those wanting action right now. Fair enough?
As a briefing of the progress, really and truly, things are 98% done, both map and script, but the 2% would cause a serious enough dysfunction at the moment which is what we're ironing out. It's all a matter of right timing though to test and iron out these issues.
You mean event will be on 25 December?
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Pretty much, but that shouldn't really be of much issue. What is the difference between a beta now and a main event in Christmas? Scores that don't count
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Alright people, the last time we gonna do this. Cast your vote on which date you'd prefer for Vice War 8 to launch, December 21st or December 28th
Voting closes 11 days from now, i.e. December 6th
Log:
37 votes total
A day in June - 17
July 6th - 20
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21st of december.
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21st of december.
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21st of december.
Btw what about UID mismatch etc etc?
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21st of december.
Btw what about UID mismatch etc etc?
You report it here (https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?board=279.0), not discuss it here.
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Voting closed. We're gonna host it the 28th of December.