Questions:
1) What has changed?
2) Why should we trust you?
3) Why do you really want to be here?
4) How do Bart's actions influence yours? How might they influence them in the future?
5) What kind of ethos do you think VU stands for?
1) I already talked with you, and some other members from vu, I decided to apply again a show what can I offer for the clan. About my "loyalty" I don't know the point of view of the vu members about me, I'm sure I'll be loyal in this case.
2) Well, as I said, I was in VU and I know how is it, how it works. About "why should we trust you?", you decide if you want to trust in me or not. I can offer the same things as some months ago and much more for VU.
3) I want to be with my team mates again, VU it's a clan with a friendly players, skilled players, it's one of the most respectful clans in the comunity of VC:MP, to have fun with them and give my best.
4) Well, as you know, Bart it's my neighbor, His actions don't have any influence with me, if we do the same it's because we have the same thought about something, in the most of the cases we got the same point of view, but my decision doesn't have influence over his decisions.
5) As I said, I was in VU, I know how it works and how is it, VU has improved a lot since i left. Have a great members and maybe the 100% of them are my friends, so I want to get back to VU.
If you got another question or If didn't replied one of this things, explain me and I will do it.
Okay so to summarize.
You left us without a valid reason, at a time when you were needed, shortly after attaining full member rank.
You made your own clan and dragged off Bart with you.
You failed and then decided to join that poor excuse of a fighting team called ON.
And now you're here again. Sure, you could get a chance. If you'd start from trainee again, and wouldn't expect to be promoted for a solid amount of time.
Not to mention this https://trc.vicelegends.com/index.php?topic=201.0
http://ss-clan.nicoarin.com/index.php?topic=423.0
I leave with my reasons, and that's a valid reason for me, apart of me, Bart did the same, Servin did the same, and mdz did the same in the same week, something happened to get 4 leaves in just one week.
RB was something like a team not like a clan but yes, is the same.
About ON, you can ask to your team mates, Charley, Stormeus, Freak, Fercho, Angela about me in ON, Why I joined inthere and why i leave it.
If you want to know more about it, I can explain, just tell me.
About this application, man, I really want to get back to VU.
I would've been inclined to vouch for a second chance. But you really screwed the pooch when you intentionally forget VU as one of your past clans.
IMO, no part of someones past should be left out, regardless of how embarrassing or shameful or hate-filled it is, it still brought them to where they are right then.
While from our time in A/D, you appear to me to be a good person. However, these actions cannot be forgotten. They can be forgiven in time, but not forgotten. And the fact of leaving with little or no reason to gives me the impression that you're just a clan-hopper. So based on the actions of those applications to SS and TRC as well as my gut...I'm afraid I'll have to say no as well.
Thanks for your vote, I seen you when I was in VU only 3 times and I never do contact with you, I don't know much about you but anyways, thanks.
When you left, Bart called you a bitch and said "you already know what I think of you." A week and a half later, he quit and you ended up forming a clan with him. What's the deal with that?
For reference:
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=6488.msg72393#msg72393
Same Answer: 4) Well, as you know, Bart it's my neighbor, His actions don't any influence with me, if we do the same it's because we have the same thought about something, in the most of the cases we got the same point of view, but my decision doesn't have influence over his decisions.
He know everything about me and how I think.
While we wait for some answers, I'm just going to make it unequivocally clear that if you're going to rejoin the clan, I personally would not consider you for a rank higher than trainee. Though you've proven yourself to be an asset and a good teammate in the past, I feel your actions have destroyed a significant amount of trust in you and your motives. At best, I feel you'd have to prove yourself by working your way up the ladder again.
This is assuming that we decide to accept you with this app, but in your other clan apps you said you left VU because it wasn't the clan you envisioned it to be. If we accept you, you would have to pitch in, raise your concerns and make an actual effort to improve what you perceive to be issues, rather than dropping out when things go poorly once.
For now I have no vote.
Of course dude, I can offer my best to VU again. Is not a problem for me, I'll be proud to show you what can I do for VU.
