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Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: aXXo on October 24, 2017, 03:08:36 pm

Title: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: aXXo on October 24, 2017, 03:08:36 pm
I believe this is a known issue since the beginning of VCMP, but we never had a productive discussion about it.

A lot of GTAVC skins, who are short in height(especially females) appear too fast in VCMP. Do they only appear fast, or are their animations/move speed faster? If someone is into skin modding, maybe they can provide an insight about the bones and animation data. The lady carrying shopping bags seems to be the hardest skin to hit, or maybe it is just the visuals which makes the movement hard to judge.

Also, their hitboxes would be smaller compared to other skins, so hitting them should theoretically be harder.

It is quite common to see people using these skins in DM servers for the slight advantage. I wonder if it is possible to fix these skins and use custom female skins on DM servers(or outright delete female skins from every DM server).
Title: Re: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: Piterus on October 24, 2017, 04:02:11 pm
I'm not sure, but every skins are based on the same bone and there is not much difference during fight. It's rather individual preferences in my opinion - I haven't problem to fight in Hilary King's skin for example ;p
Title: Re: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: morphine on October 24, 2017, 04:20:34 pm
I believe it's more of a visual illusion than a physical advantage in movement speed

don't really have much more to add at this point
Title: Re: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: Zatch on October 24, 2017, 04:56:42 pm
I used to think the same about female skins in 0.3 but as morph said, it's just a visual illusion.
Title: Re: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: ripmemes on October 24, 2017, 05:04:38 pm
I believe this is a known issue since the beginning of VCMP, but we never had a productive discussion about it.

A lot of GTAVC skins, who are short in height(especially females) appear too fast in VCMP. Do they only appear fast, or are their animations/move speed faster? If someone is into skin modding, maybe they can provide an insight about the bones and animation data. The lady carrying shopping bags seems to be the hardest skin to hit, or maybe it is just the visuals which makes the movement hard to judge.

Also, their hitboxes would be smaller compared to other skins, so hitting them should theoretically be harder.

It is quite common to see people using these skins in DM servers for the slight advantage. I wonder if it is possible to fix these skins and use custom female skins on DM servers(or outright delete female skins from every DM server).
Yes, you're right if there's a way to do this but I'm not sure  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: GoRcEE on October 24, 2017, 05:51:35 pm
Just because these skins are default in vice city, changes might be or not. Its uses are prolly illegal.
Title: Re: Shorter pedestrians/skins are harder to hit?
Post by: Sora_Blue on October 24, 2017, 07:32:45 pm
Also, their hitboxes would be smaller compared to other skins, so hitting them should theoretically be harder.
If this happens to be true, it's always possible to mod them to that of a male.