lol i didnt even remember about this bot shit lol. thanks guys

Which game are you applying for, VC:MP, SA:MP, LU or all?: VC:MP

Nick: ^TBG^Darius, but i see another Darius in VU, so when i can join VU i can change my nick to Shadow.

Previous Nicks: ^TBG^Darius, [PM]Silver

Timezone/Country: Poland

Age: 17

Do you speak English? Yes, but not professional

Time you have played vcmp/samp: I played VC:MP 3 years, but i'm playing SA:MP too...2 years, but im interessed to be in VU in vcmp

Previous clans: ^TBG^, [PM] - this same reason, i was left from that clan, because this clan does not exist already. No leader active in game...etc. So i decided it's time to join a new clan...

Do you use mIRC: Nope.

Why you want to join VU: Because i know the most of members in VU. Im Administrator on Dariu's server and i know him very good....At beggining i wanted to create some new clan, but that it does not pay...And i want to join to particular clan like VU...

Favourite weapon: Stubby Shotgun, Shotgun, MP5, M4

Which VUs do you know: Darius, Fercho, GRAND, Morphine, Veteran

Would you be interested in competing in clan wars?: Yes

oh man, i can sense the hell in this one....too much miscommunication. u have a lot of adjusting to do. trainee but darius, help him out

You're all slow as fuck 

No that's called FUCK YOU -_________________________________-

i know, pascal, javascript and html coding, its time I learn this bitch. But I don't see anything on this crap, what language it is, how you make it, none a that shit. So anyone of you that know how to write scripts, gimme a starter link, why don't ya

Let me explain something as i see one my quotes too in this topic.

I've been voting clearly "no" for those who i don't know, that's another thing that majority changes their vote just because of the leader's vote. I've never appreciated this and never changed my opinion about the applicant too however, i don't think we should actually vote "yes" for those whom you haven't even met. Let me make this clear, I've never changed my vote for someone since i've been promoted to full member. I remember i did that for some applicants but after some of the recent departures and their applications for other clans have actually forced me to think before posting my vote, my opinion.

I'm not forcing anyone to vote positively or negatively for someone without knowing him. Everyone is free here but i strongly believe that we've to leave this now.

This isn't a "im calling your name for your shit" topic Madkiller, all scenarios and quotes were randomly thought up of so your quote is coincidence. And don't get it the wrong way as well, you can change your vote if you want, just not in a biased way. And there's a broader picture than just votes. Even leaders can say shit, hell even what I'm saying could be utter shit. Its just this message im broadcasting.

You shouldn't mindlessly follow the opinions of anyone

I honestly hope that this is my illusion of some of the clan members but I have doubts I'm being fooled. Now this is to everyone but in particular the rookies and the trainees.

This was and SHOULD be a clan without bias. There is this ever on-going, push-pull, prejudiced dance where the level rises and falls. It happens in big mishaps, it particularly happens in application forms, it rarely but still happens in ideas for events, servers, so on. We have a owner/leader, co-leaders, full members......a ranking system. The leader enforces what he wants, co-leaders follow, enforces it to the full members, full members follow, and it goes down till it reaches the trainees, forming a united systematic clan of respect which the leader approves of. All of that is fine and dandy but where does the biased opinions come in now?


Example 1:

I post this very message but I am not eminent to the crowd per se. My replies to this message: "oh what you talking about? we not like that" or something.

The leader of the clan post the very same message. His replies to the message: "that some true shit. I see this a lot. This should change" and all that crap.

Why is it that the very same message gets 2 totally different replies? That should not be so. You have all right to agree or disagree on anyone's opinion, but not in a prejudice manner.


Example 2:

Some dude posts an application. The leader has acknowledged the individual and approves of him but only the leader knows him. Automatically everyone votes "yes, he must be okay"

Another dude posts an application. One weaker figure knows and recommends him, like a trainee or rookie, even a full member (but is not particularly active). The leader, co-leader, some head of position is away to make their approval of him or they don't know him. His application gets the responses: "cant vote, don't know you well", "get to know more people", "waiting on the leader has to say"

Hypocritical behavior....why vote yes to someone you don't know and then no to another you don't know just because some head didn't approve of him? Everyone that is here, should have the competence by now to assess a person by themselves without ever waiting on the opinion of a head for your own head to start working. That's not a united clan. That's a clan with overworked officials and blind-minded, prejudice followers.

Cease and Desist.

I call no names, it would defeat my purpose of competence. Assess yourselves and curb this behavior. It is not welcomed here. You are free to do whatever you want, however you want within virtuous reasons.
Biased reasons ain't one of them.

A word to the wise is sufficient

oh u watch within 3 months, ill be in the 90s baby and then in 2 years, 300 wpm

he can get to know more people closely as time passes, don't let that be too much of a deterrent. i must say though, that age surprised me kraiten. when we on LW, u calling me hacker and shit cuz you just couldnt hit me, swore you were some 14 year old. You didn't curse or spam at me so I'll let it slide but it shows me you're either fairly new to VCMP or you need serious guidance.


Nontheless, I'm a dude that gives chances. I'll vote trainee

you shouldn't be joining us because we're ''popular''

I agree with that if he's another one of those no good individuals but without some popularity, most of us already here wouldn't be here. Maybe he just means well