Vice Underdogs

Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: morphine on January 03, 2018, 09:24:03 pm

Title: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 03, 2018, 09:24:03 pm
it's not in my nature to post threads of such nature, but seeing as I am/have been a community leader in many sub-communities of VC:MP, I have always been, and still am very open to public opinion.

I, by no means, have the intention to denounce a certain ferrari32 of the Vice Underdogs clan but merely am trying to answer the question of whether I have done something wrong in the particular situation that has arisen, or not.

so I'll start off with quoting something the most respectable [VU]ferrari32 has written to me today. seeing as he is a proud representative of the house of Vice Underdogs, and always acts in the most dignifying of matters, living up to VU's expectations, I see no need in concealing the messages of such an honorable member, as I, myself, have nothing to hide from anyone here.

'Temporary alliance until triumvirate's out of action?
If we keep hitting them with the casualties sanctions, they're out of the game in the first 5 hours'

I read over the above message at least 5-6 times, since it seemed way too brief for an idiot like myself. therefore, I (partially quote) asked Ferrari to elaborate on his master plan as I (with all due respect to myself) was too stupid to understand something of such brief content.

to my surprise, what I got in response was the following:

'mastermind like myself knows better than unveiling mutual plans before a mutual understanding has been made'

which is exactly why I was interested in details in the first place. I (partially quote) responded to him, asking 'not to play smart with me, as I too seek to convince myself that your plans are in the best interests of both of our teams'

to which I got a response of the following composition:

'Changed my mind, won't team crackwhores'

at this point, mind you, I would like to state that I am a soon-to-be professional boxer and that I barely drink, and certainly am not on crack. quite reasonable, is it not?

'You don't get to disrespect me in my own house, it's that simple. Even more, you don't get to throw around your autocrat shit over me, as you have no authority over me.'

once again, judging by the aforementioned factual data, I do not remember disrespecting ferrari32 in 'his' house, and quite oppositely have observed disrespect addressed towards me from, what I now consider one of the most ignoble members of the set.

the main question is - am I the one going nuts or does it smell like horseshit here?

oh and mind you Ferrari, I have much more influence in this so called house of 'yours', and if you even think of deleting this thread, at least every 20th member on this forum have, and in some cases still do display respect and acknowledgment of who I am. I will do whatever is in my powers to get an answer from someone above you and your high horse.

I am merely trying to get a public opinion on this.

thank you in advance
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 03, 2018, 11:59:42 pm
Hop off your hype train here. You have the decency to make fun of my countrymen's deaths, and chalk it up to "double standards"? You can sell that shit to your TRC friends, at least the ones you haven't already lost due to your "superior self".
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 04, 2018, 12:22:31 am
Oh you are definitely right about the superior self part. I am superior, I am a leader, I am the people’s champion. I say what others are too afraid to say, I am the voice of hope among the hopeless. However, that also means that I express solely what others are too afraid to say; read again. The decisions I make involve a consensus between all those involved.

You, on the other hand, act in complete solitude, and fail terribly at it. Superiorizing your countrymen’s deaths to those that were made at the hands of people such as Adolf Hitler is absolutely vile and disgusting. No man’s life or death is more important than the next one’s, despite so called cultural, ethnical and national ‘rankings’. You can shove your naked worded patriotism right back where it came from. You have done nothing for your country, and the same applies in terms of your team, other than disgrace it.

In any case, I have no business with you. Waiting for input from Thijn, Ras, Charley, aXXo or whoever else does not have a chip on their shoulders.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 04, 2018, 12:35:25 am
Nah, you're a two faced piece of shit with zero morals and an initiative to cause unnecesary problems in your own fantasy world. You see the difference between Adolf Hitler and Ratko Mladic is that nobody here was even alive to witness the atrocities that were commited. As for the latter, the consequences have never ceased to be relived. Raped women commited to insane asylums. Deathcamp escapees with their eyes and ears removed. Mothers spending 20 years in search of their teenage son's remains. Burned churches, schools.

You have no idea what you're talking about, because the pure fact is, you've only ever lived in your fantasy land. You have no clue of what the real world may become.

These ain't the words of a patriot. These are the words of a human being. I haven't done anything for my country, I agree. But I do believe volounteering at a refuge for Syrian refugees has achieved something for mankind.

Take your big words elsewhere, little man.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 04, 2018, 12:43:03 am
If you really believe that I know nothing about Syrian refugee camps, and the Arab world in general, you are dead wrong. I have lived in, and studied the Arab world for over 7 years, and I know people who personally have witnessed what is going on in these Syrian ant nests.

A little man is the last thing you can call someone like me, quite frankly, for I think someone my height and a good 100 kilograms of weight, to say the very least, can be considered small.

You are battling me with predictions, and I am retaliating with facts, which just comes to show, once again, that you are not too worthy an opponent.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 04, 2018, 12:50:10 am
You're full of shit as usual. You lived in the tough world called the UAE.

You keep burying yourself with your own words, constantly attempting to prove yourself a superior being. On a video game forum.

Those are the marks of an internet warrior, probably caused by being neglected by actual society, feeling the urge to be the loudest one elsewhere.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 04, 2018, 12:55:43 am
I am as respected in the real life society as I am here. In fact, people who surround me in life respect me even much more than they do over in this half-assed excuse of a community.

I cannot spot how exactly I am burying myself with my own words, please enlighten me.

I have all the reasons to be as proud as I am, and to add to that, I wish you absolutely no harm. :)
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 04, 2018, 01:09:14 am
The half-assed excuse for a community is moreover of better quality than you. It's even more exhillerating that you come asking for rights and sanctions from my clan, while you can't even keep your own clan in order. That speaks for both how hypocritical and overly enthusiastic you are.

In any case, feel free to talk about it on your dead forum, I'm sure an asslicker will come along to agree with you eventually. That shit won't pass here I'm afraid.

Whoop and there he is! Hi brian
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Milko on January 04, 2018, 02:16:02 am
will you guys stop if I change my vw nickname?
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 04, 2018, 08:31:11 am
Yes
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 04, 2018, 08:33:42 am
Absolutely fucking not
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: KILLERX. on January 04, 2018, 08:51:33 am
'Temporary alliance until triumvirate's out of action?
If we keep hitting them with the casualties sanctions, they're out of the game in the first 5 hours'
Exposed
 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 04, 2018, 10:18:44 am
Not much to hide there, reality is everyone will focus on taking out the biggest threat
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 04, 2018, 10:31:54 am
Beautifully said.

I will also focus on taking out the biggest threat.




:)
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: aXXo on January 04, 2018, 05:47:28 pm
will you guys stop if I change my vw nickname?
what vicewar??
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: mairee on January 04, 2018, 05:57:10 pm
fk vw I'm going back to playing minecraft
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 05, 2018, 01:21:37 am
So, is the VU management really going to stay quiet on this one?
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: GangstaRas on January 05, 2018, 02:21:09 am
So, is the VU management really going to stay quiet on this one?

I swear, Charley should start paying me for all this headache I'm tackling.



Morph, all I see is two grown men among the community creating another unnecessary drama case.

The first wrong move is that you can't say you have nothing to hide and in your post you're admitting to partially quoting yourself. Ferrari showed me one of your full messages, and from what I could pick up, everything went south after you responded to ferrari's mastermind response you quoted which seemed innocent to me.

From what I could see the dialogue is like this:


And then all the other crap after, long story short, that mastermind comment was the first insult I'm seeing, you provoked him to bite and he bit.

The second wrong move was that you publicize that you not trying to denounce ferrari but your whole post is riddled with slander towards him, again from point 1, with translucency on your part, not transparency. What honest public opinion are you after on the matter without transparency? Nothing that would make you look bad, just everything that would make ferrari look bad. This whole crap is all about defaming him.

Ferrari's a loose cannon when he's insulted, his tongue is sharpened to retaliate against any and everyone that tries to put him down, spitting his truth and intellect as he's no dunce to rise to the challenge.  For me that's ferrari's wrong move because  that's not how I feel things should be done. There are calmer ways to dismiss people but we can agree to disagree and I don't agree to it. I treat people respectfully even if they don't respect me, my way of always staying in the right, but overall, do you see the bigger picture I'm showing here? All this shit was unnecessary from both ends; that is my opinion.

What was the benefit behind all this? If we're all grown people here, what is the benefit behind all this? Is all this shit worth the effort? Man I'm getting too old for this brothers. Just live good for goodness sake
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 05, 2018, 02:49:16 am
Big shit, I didn’t publicly call him out for double standards. I hereby declare that ferrari32 is filled to the brim with double standards.

Refer to the report he made in the VW board.

What else is it that you don’t approve of in my post?

Where exactly am I lying?
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: TheKing on January 05, 2018, 03:04:00 am
So, is the VU management really going to stay quiet on this one?

Gangstaras stated what the active management was thinking, this is not something don't we want to deal with. Since we know we can create a 15 page thread of unuseful crap talking. We know both of you Morphine and Ferrari are not going to change your points of view on each other and on the situation. Ferrari wanted to end the feud with Milko changing his VW nick and thats good, and you still wanted more to it.

We're not going to promote more drama, our main concern is to get the community settled to enjoy VW7 as much as possible. We also understand this comes from a full circle on the stuff surrounding this event and how stressful its been for everyone. So we encourage to just forget about the differences, and move on like a pair of grown ass men.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Charley on January 05, 2018, 03:14:06 am
So, is the VU management really going to stay quiet on this one?

To be honest, I don't see why anyone else from VU needs to comment here. To me, like Gangstaras, this appears to be between you two alone. This isn't VU vs TRC, it's Ferrari vs Morphine. Moreover, Wolfpack != VU, Night Wolves != TRC.

If you really want an opinion, it looks to me like Ferrari was scouting out possible strategies/alliances, but he smartly didn't want to give everything away before he could trust that his plans would be kept secret. He sees the Wolfpack as stronger than Night Wolves, and so probably thinks something like 'you either play our game or you don't'. It's classic hardball diplomacy. About everything else in this thread, it has nothing to do with VU.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 05, 2018, 08:49:54 am
More like =TRC=morphine vs the world.


Shame, Charley. You are emphasizing the wrong things here, but I, like Ras, am sick and tired of trying to get a result out of this situation.

Sorry for trying to help out.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 05, 2018, 12:09:01 pm
Oh and let me make one thing clear once and for all.

You are in no position to speak on behalf of the Night Wolves. Matter of fact, Night Wolves = TRC, because I created both of these gangs, and I alone am responsible for both of them. The people that joined the Night Wolves share my vision and cause, and each and every one of them gets to lead the gang in their own way, with me as the highest authority.

In case you haven't noticed, my most loyal men are with me in TRC to this day, even Foxtrot, whom we had a 2 year long battle with. The facts beat the assumptions, yet again.

Don't get me wrong Charles, I respect and admire you, as I have for the past 7 years, but I am a man of transparency, and have nothing to hide from nobody, including yourself.


... and in conclusion I'd like to say that this is perhaps the one necessary drama in a long time instigated by someone who never does shit like this. (addressed particularly to Ras)
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Sevrin on January 05, 2018, 01:54:16 pm
Talking about Night Wolves being weaker than the Wolf Pack? You're in a big mistake huehue. And yeah, as morphine said the Night Wolves contains the most loyal men of morphine and loyal men allies of me and other TRCs, cmon.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Jokah on January 05, 2018, 02:03:02 pm
Talking about Night Wolves being weaker than the Wolf Pack? You're in a big mistake huehue. And yeah, as morphine said the Night Wolves contains the most loyal men of morphine and loyal men allies of me and other TRCs, cmon.

Being loyal to morphine doesn't make the gang any stronger. It depends on the mindset, strategies, and skills. We cannot decide who is weak and who is not yet. Lets wait for the vicewar to happen.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Charley on January 05, 2018, 02:05:57 pm
Matter of fact, Night Wolves = TRC, because I created both of these gangs, and I alone am responsible for both of them.

Okay be that as it may, the fact still stands that Wolf Pack != VU. If you want your clan to have a Vice War feud with the Wolf Pack, or Ferrari, then go ahead, but I'm not convinced that it needs blowing up to any proportion greater than that.

You say this is a necessary drama, but I'm struggling to see what you want out of it. I mean this as a genuine question, with no snideness: what would be the perfect outcome from this discussion, from your point of view? What is the aim of this discussion?
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 05, 2018, 04:53:53 pm
He just wants to boss people around. Mistook this forum for TRC's I guess.

The logic behind your aims evades me however. Basically you've come to my house as a guest, and you're trying to convince my family to kick me out of the house because you feel offended. What do you think the logical outcome of this situation is?
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Siezer on January 05, 2018, 06:37:25 pm
Basically you've come to my house as a guest, and you're trying to convince my family to kick me out of the house because you feel offended.
This is never going to happen. You know it better ferrari and everyone else does. Ferrari is the heart of VU and will always be. Get it in your head, chaps.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 05, 2018, 10:02:02 pm
Basically you've come to my house as a guest, and you're trying to convince my family to kick me out of the house because you feel offended.
This is never going to happen. You know it better ferrari and everyone else does. Ferrari is the heart of VU and will always be. Get it in your head, chaps.

Well if ferrari32's the heart of VU, no wonder shit's chaotic up in this bitch.

A man that calls a respected sports figure a 'crackwhore' and puts the deaths of people in the Second World War in the Holocaust lower than the deaths of others, justifying it with 'mind the age gap' (what the fuck?) is definitely a role model to take inspiration from.


You say this is a necessary drama, but I'm struggling to see what you want out of it. I mean this as a genuine question, with no snideness: what would be the perfect outcome from this discussion, from your point of view? What is the aim of this discussion?

All I'm asking for, Charley, is to look the truth in the eyes and take appropriate action. People with the aforementioned traits of behavior do not deserve to be called full Vice Underdogs, and they are the same reason why respected members like yourself are treated like scumbags by the society.

How many people do you see shitting on me these past few days, apart from ferrari32?

The logic behind your aims evades me however. Basically you've come to my house as a guest, and you're trying to convince my family to kick me out of the house because you feel offended. What do you think the logical outcome of this situation is?

The only reason you're in this house in the first place is because VU let you in on a basis of good will. The reason I entered your house, in the first place, is because it reeks of your shit from a mile away, and I, being the good man I am, am trying to tidy up the house because they've helped me tidy up mine.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: TheKing on January 06, 2018, 04:35:14 am
Well if ferrari32's the heart of VU, no wonder shit's chaotic up in this bitch.

A man that calls a respected sports figure a 'crackwhore' and puts the deaths of people in the Second World War in the Holocaust lower than the deaths of others, justifying it with 'mind the age gap' (what the fuck?) is definitely a role model to take inspiration from.

All I'm asking for, Charley, is to look the truth in the eyes and take appropriate action. People with the aforementioned traits of behavior do not deserve to be called full Vice Underdogs, and they are the same reason why respected members like yourself are treated like scumbags by the society.

How many people do you see shitting on me these past few days, apart from ferrari32?

The only reason you're in this house in the first place is because VU let you in on a basis of good will. The reason I entered your house, in the first place, is because it reeks of your shit from a mile away, and I, being the good man I am, am trying to tidy up the house because they've helped me tidy up mine.

Damn, you're so self-absorbed. Step down the pedestal for a minute here Rocky. All of this is leading nowhere, we're not going to take "appropriate" actions towards no one base on your ideals of good leadership structure. Your views and opinions are well accepted and valid since they're ultimately yours, that doesn't mean we have to agree or do as you say.

We know you want to be heard, we know you want to continue with this until you get the upper hand, but we don't see a logical reason to give this more importance than the one it gained. Other than that we're well aware of the diversity personalities we deal with within Vice Underdogs, and I'm pretty sure we can handle those ourselves.

Both of the parties involved made heated decisions that led to all of this being brought up.

So basically what i'm trying to say here is, Vice Underdogs Management and the whole Vice Underdogs family will stand behind our own and we will have to agree to disagree. And we're not going to make this longer than it already is.

To both, I hope you understand.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: JuaN. on January 06, 2018, 04:51:59 am
REAL OPINION GUYS TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
LA WEA WEYS ESTO ES MUY SERIO

>first joins triumvirate along with all trc members
>smth goes wrong in someone's head(guess who)
>leaves the first team he joined which was triumvirate(without telling what happened  or why he left the triumvirate)
>some guy(guess who) imposes his trc members either you join him or you are agaisnt him
>two guys share out their opinion about leaving the triumvirate and they are agaisnt TRC leaving the triumvirate
>they get kicked, without counting with anybodys else opinion but his own judgement(guess who)
IMPORTANT INFO: some members from the main vcmp clans such as VU or MK joined different gangs nobody kicked them, why does that happen in trc though?
>i was trying to be convinced to team up with those lame russians tthat nobody likes.
>juan left trc , hes a big betrayer and all of that etc you know typical shit
>the guy that made all this mess then he asks vu for an alliance
>gets denied
>goes back to triumvirate (the team he and his gang were originally at) LOL ¿POR QUÉ? WEY
>why leaving triumvirate causing all the mess then asking for an alliance? LOL ¿POR QUÉ? WEY
>gets denied as well

NO UNDERSTAND MEN YO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS ¿POR QUE?

opinion given, as the the topic title requested

thanks in advance for letting me give my opinion


Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Dr.Shawn on January 06, 2018, 05:28:26 am
Gz, I would not expect drama from you all niggere at least -.-
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: SpiralRock on January 06, 2018, 05:36:38 am
Chod Na bakalar yaar...
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Milko on January 06, 2018, 06:53:26 am
Chod Na bakalar yaar...

han yaar...
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Amal on January 06, 2018, 07:09:21 am
you'll see threads like these only in vcmp :sigh:
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 06, 2018, 09:14:59 am
Well if ferrari32's the heart of VU, no wonder shit's chaotic up in this bitch.

A man that calls a respected sports figure a 'crackwhore' and puts the deaths of people in the Second World War in the Holocaust lower than the deaths of others, justifying it with 'mind the age gap' (what the fuck?) is definitely a role model to take inspiration from.

All I'm asking for, Charley, is to look the truth in the eyes and take appropriate action. People with the aforementioned traits of behavior do not deserve to be called full Vice Underdogs, and they are the same reason why respected members like yourself are treated like scumbags by the society.

How many people do you see shitting on me these past few days, apart from ferrari32?

The only reason you're in this house in the first place is because VU let you in on a basis of good will. The reason I entered your house, in the first place, is because it reeks of your shit from a mile away, and I, being the good man I am, am trying to tidy up the house because they've helped me tidy up mine.

Damn, you're so self-absorbed. Step down the pedestal for a minute here Rocky. All of this is leading nowhere, we're not going to take "appropriate" actions towards no one base on your ideals of good leadership structure. Your views and opinions are well accepted and valid since they're ultimately yours, that doesn't mean we have to agree or do as you say.

We know you want to be heard, we know you want to continue with this until you get the upper hand, but we don't see a logical reason to give this more importance than the one it gained. Other than that we're well aware of the diversity personalities we deal with within Vice Underdogs, and I'm pretty sure we can handle those ourselves.

Both of the parties involved made heated decisions that led to all of this being brought up.

So basically what i'm trying to say here is, Vice Underdogs Management and the whole Vice Underdogs family will stand behind our own and we will have to agree to disagree. And we're not going to make this longer than it already is.

To both, I hope you understand.

King, glad you finally decided to take the time off to write something less laconic than usual.

I am self absorbed, I agree. I have achieved too much to be modest, and that, in the first place, is the opinion of the people surrounding me, it is not my own. Even in the context of VC:MP - my clan members call me 'general' 24/7. What general is a modest general?

Off the point, however.

I am merely trying to help you. I have been associated with VU for 7 years, indirectly. There is no reason for me to try to wish you any harm, not at this point in time, not at any point in the future. All that shit's in the past.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 06, 2018, 09:40:04 am
Am I the only one here failing to understand how Morphine has ever "helped" VU, over the entire period the clan exists. Not to mention that any "help" from you would probably not suit us, as our clans have very different definitions of what's good and what's not.

You're basically giving yourself rights to talk in the name of out ethos, which you're not even familiar with.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 06, 2018, 09:43:44 am
Am I the only one here failing to understand how Morphine has ever "helped" VU, over the entire period the clan exists. Not to mention that any "help" from you would probably not suit us, as our clans have very different definitions of what's good and what's not.

You're basically giving yourself rights to talk in the name of out ethos, which you're not even familiar with.

You're failing to understand how I helped VU?

Never have, never will.


I think that's enough for now. :)

If I was not familiar with the clan ethos, I would not have held the above ranks at all. Oh, and before you talk shit again, I'll have you know, that for the most part of the list, I was invited to be part of these projects.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ferrari32 on January 06, 2018, 09:45:19 am
In what way is that helping VU?
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 06, 2018, 09:48:23 am
Wow, just wow.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: GangstaRas on January 06, 2018, 01:20:15 pm
I am self absorbed, I agree. I have achieved too much to be modest, and that, in the first place, is the opinion of the people surrounding me, it is not my own. Even in the context of VC:MP - my clan members call me 'general' 24/7. What general is a modest general?

Morph, the flaw of being self absorbed is that you're now failing to understand that respect is earned not demanded. Going around saying I am this I am that I deserve this I deserve that, it's not going to make you build good relationships with anyone. Respect is given to those who prove they are worthy of respect; being haughty does not equate to a respected leader. The quality you should be after is assertiveness. The difference? Being assertive has the quality of confidence behind what you believe in but the humility to respect the opinion and input of your own 'followers' if you want to look at them that way, and just people you interact with in general. Never forget that, that is a life lesson, not just a VC:MP one.



Now Morphine and I have engaged in meaningful conversations regarding VU and VC:MP from time to time over the years, so I can attest to the fact that he has been helpful, even if to the public knowledge that isn't readily seen. The fact that we've given him these ranks to our servers is proof enough that he is a respected figure among the community and among us. But we can all agree that we can't live in the past, the reality is what we're seeing in the present, and the present is that this egotism which I didn't know you for is blinding your eyes and probing your actions into perfidious waters.

As TheKing said, we respect your voice, we respect your opinion but it doesn't mean we have to agree to your ideals. We have a diverse culture dealing with in VU, some of us are hotheads, some of us are slow to anger, everyone of us have our own triggers that make us unique. Some give respect to all even if they don't deserve it, some take away their respect the minute you disrespect them. Diverse culture, different mindsets.

The consensus to our ethos handling such a situation is that if aggressive behaviour is unwarranted, no one provoked you, we handle that.



Example:

Quote
Morphine: Hi, my name is Morphine, nice to meet you
GangstaRas: Shut-up you Russian dickhead, burn in hell

And I just met the guy...it is a different story then.



Example 2:
Quote
Racist VU hosts server
Pakistan player joins
Pakistan player banned. Reason: (get the hell out of here paki-trash)



The consensus to our ethos also dictates that you can't have any ill-feelings to a group of people for the sins of one.

So if I were to use this back and forth between you and ferrari as Example 3, ferrari can look down on you, the provoker, but he can't transfer that view to your friends, your clan members nor your nationals. The respect is to be given on an individual's merits. Even if your friends, clan members and nationals share your view, unless they gave a explanatory reason why they do, ferrari isn't to look down on them, because the reality of today is that we do have blind sheep that don't know what they're doing and just follow the bigger heads like mindless soldiers. A bitter heart towards such a person is unfair, gets us nowhere as a community and is uncalled for, because they need guidance and we might have to be the one to take on that responsibility one day.



With that said, this is what we mean when we say this is between you and him. What you have effectively done just try to damage the reputation of a member of our clan regardless original intent.

The time you complained about ferrari making the signature he holds to this day as a retort to your previous signature of VU's OG banner, that was a more legitimate issue than this. As you saw, without the explanations from both parties, it looked like an attack from TRC on VU and it looked like an attack from VU on TRC. That needed intervention.

As I've said in my previous post, you provoked ferrari to bite, and he bit. You shouldn't have done that. I'm not justifying him calling you a crackwhore but it is not for us to take action if:


This is between you two to solve my friend
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 06, 2018, 01:35:30 pm
Ras, are you out of your mind?

How many times do I have to repeat that I do not demand respect?

I've been saying this over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. I am respected because I have proven myself as someone worth respect, in fact, you just wrote that yourself.

My good God, snap out of it already...

Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: GangstaRas on January 06, 2018, 01:45:56 pm
Ras, are you out of your mind?

How many times do I have to repeat that I do not demand respect?

I've been saying this over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. I am respected because I have proven myself as someone worth respect, in fact, you just wrote that yourself.

My good God, snap out of it already...



Morph, not to be taken the wrong way, but how is a is a self-absorbed person in anyway shape or form worthy of respect?

I wrote what I said because I've known you before this view of yourself
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 06, 2018, 01:53:22 pm
Ras, are you out of your mind?

How many times do I have to repeat that I do not demand respect?

I've been saying this over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. I am respected because I have proven myself as someone worth respect, in fact, you just wrote that yourself.

My good God, snap out of it already...



Morph, not to be taken the wrong way, but how is a is a self-absorbed person in anyway shape or form worthy of respect?

I wrote what I said because I've known you before this view of yourself

You know, in fact, I have to agree with you here. A self-absorbed person is in no way worthy of respect, and I'd like to apologize to King for agreeing with what he wrote about me.

I am not self absorbed. I am absorbed by the people around me. There, that should be much closer to reality.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Eddy on January 06, 2018, 01:57:04 pm
  • Managed VCCT in 2011
ULK cheated in the finals >:(, we also lost for juan_gun
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: QarZ on January 06, 2018, 03:46:24 pm
  • Managed VCCT in 2011
ULK cheated in the finals >:(, we also lost for juan_gun

(https://jessicamariebaumgartner.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/look.jpg)
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: WiLsOn on January 06, 2018, 04:59:13 pm
“Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: JuaN. on January 07, 2018, 12:22:32 am
  • Managed VCCT in 2011
ULK cheated in the finals >:(, we also lost for juan_gun
cerda mentirosa >=(
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 07, 2018, 09:55:04 am
Well I apologize to anyone who thinks I came here with bad intentions.

I hold absolutely no grudge against anyone, even ferrari32.

Was just trying to help out here, but if my help is not necessary, can’t force it down your throats eh.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: EvilSpiriT on January 07, 2018, 10:34:41 am
After all this drama, Maddy has given this statement :
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394123026704105475/399510483255951370/IMG_20180107_160143.png)
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: MD619 on January 07, 2018, 02:47:09 pm
After all this drama, Maddy has given this statement :
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394123026704105475/399510483255951370/IMG_20180107_160143.png)
Does he even has it? :P
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: ZUBI on January 07, 2018, 03:24:49 pm
After all this drama, Maddy has given this statement :
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394123026704105475/399510483255951370/IMG_20180107_160143.png)

Maddy ab tou apna naam Shaheedon main likhwa lee....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: Milko on January 07, 2018, 05:31:41 pm
Translation please? There's no European who can understand a word except madarchod.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: aWaIx on January 07, 2018, 05:33:34 pm
Translation please? There's no European who can understand a word except madarchod.
I will get my dick cutted off
Thx me later.
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: XGamer on January 07, 2018, 07:35:57 pm
Translation please? There's no European who can understand a word except madarchod.
Madarchod
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: morphine on January 11, 2018, 10:25:42 am
So we gonna leave this one hanging or what?

I never said that I gave up on this shit. ^-^
Title: Re: I need an opinion here
Post by: mairee on January 11, 2018, 12:40:06 pm
Translation please? There's no European who can understand a word except madarchod.
I will get my dick cutted off
Thx me later.
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