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Discussion => VC:MP General => Topic started by: JuaN. on February 01, 2017, 03:36:00 am

Title: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 01, 2017, 03:36:00 am
what about it? give me the chance to revenge the loss in VCDC2/3 wouldnt you? many players from vcmp want this to happen.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Zeeshan.Bhatti on February 01, 2017, 07:45:43 am
yes yes.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: WiLsOn on February 01, 2017, 03:11:01 pm
Why you wanna get your ass handed to you by cheaters?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ElvenKing on February 01, 2017, 04:56:47 pm
Why you wanna get your ass handed to you by cheaters?
lole hes one of them
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on February 01, 2017, 05:12:51 pm
Maybe in Spring/summer.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: WiLsOn on February 01, 2017, 05:21:27 pm
Why you wanna get your ass handed to you by cheaters?
lole hes one of them
fuck u i told u dont talk about 2010
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 01, 2017, 06:01:06 pm
well i just suggested it cos this event is mean to be hosted each 2-3 years lol, it would be cool however do whatever you want to, since its a VU event
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on February 01, 2017, 06:13:14 pm
You suggesting same old 1v1 cage fight or anything new this time?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 01, 2017, 06:15:46 pm
I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: SMD on February 01, 2017, 06:29:31 pm
I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)

and no punch too.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 01, 2017, 06:36:59 pm
Why you wanna get your ass handed to you by cheaters?
yeah prolly since 40% of vcmp players use guilty things to have advantage over others.

I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)

and no punch too.
lol i never punch
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on February 01, 2017, 06:45:50 pm
I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)

How about a ping limit of 100 because anything more than that is an advantage. Maybe we can have regional champions.

VCDC 1 - India
VCDC 2 - India
VCDC 3 - Turkey
VCDC 4 - Pakistan

Imo VCDC 3 was the only season where the winner(Koray) actually got the credit. If an Indian/Paki/South American wins, he is always called a lagger and discredited.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 01, 2017, 07:45:38 pm
I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)

How about a ping limit of 100 because anything more than that is an advantage. Maybe we can have regional champions.

VCDC 1 - India
VCDC 2 - India
VCDC 3 - Turkey
VCDC 4 - Pakistan

Imo VCDC 3 was the only season where the winner(Koray) actually got the credit. If an Indian/Paki/South American wins, he is always called a lagger and discredited.

I dont think that way tho, each winner did enough merits to win it, restricting high pingers to play wouldnt be fair.

about that regional thing why not, back in the second season there were two servers 1 hosted in europe and the other one hosted in america,  this time there could be another one hosted in asia for the asian ones.

then there would be an american winner an european winner and an asian winner, these three could fight each other to get the final win, world champ lol its just an idea tho.

PD: Id have no problem colaborating with money to set servers up if thats a problem, especially for the asian one.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on February 01, 2017, 09:13:11 pm
Ping limit to 225-250 is fine. In case we need to reduce the ping limit.

@juan: yeah it is a good idea but simply setup a server in Europe and reduce ping limit.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on February 01, 2017, 10:42:53 pm
Ping limit to 225-250 is fine. In case we need to reduce the ping limit.
It's not fine.
Anyone playing at low ping is on a considerable disadvantage when fighting a lagger. (I love this debate lol)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Sora_Blue on February 01, 2017, 11:40:16 pm
It's not fine.
Anyone playing at low ping is on a considerable disadvantage when fighting a lagger. (I love this debate lol)
This.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on February 02, 2017, 02:58:38 am
Why you wanna get your ass handed to you by cheaters?
yeah prolly since 40% of vcmp players use guilty things to have advantage over others.

I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)

and no punch too.
lol i never punch

Then how could you possibly win the event?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on February 02, 2017, 05:34:54 am
Ping limit to 225-250 is fine. In case we need to reduce the ping limit.
It's not fine.
Anyone playing at low ping is on a considerable disadvantage when fighting a lagger. (I love this debate lol)
come on laggers and non-laggers. It is time to defend.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on February 02, 2017, 11:56:52 am
KKKK all low pingers torrent porn so we're even
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: krystianoo on February 02, 2017, 01:26:00 pm
I suggested the tournament itself, adding new features and new things would be up to ppl that are good when it comes to make events, ie you. im not that imaginative atm.

(no chainsaw if its 1v1 pls, lol that would destroy everything)

How about a ping limit of 100 because anything more than that is an advantage. Maybe we can have regional champions.

VCDC 1 - India
VCDC 2 - India
VCDC 3 - Turkey
VCDC 4 - Pakistan

Imo VCDC 3 was the only season where the winner(Koray) actually got the credit. If an Indian/Paki/South American wins, he is always called a lagger and discredited.

this man crazy i suggest in 2001

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyJl8J6p.png&hash=e3ee455644f85a60bcad8359168e8c7cfd9f72d2) krystiano ahead of own time
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on February 02, 2017, 03:33:09 pm
Or we can make divisions, just like there is division in sports like wrestling where the division is depended on individual's weight, we can divide the category in terms of ping. Here is what I mean:
1)0-80 ping
2)80-130 ping
3)130-180 ping
4) 180-250 ping

But the problem will be that there will be a lot of players with 180-250 ping ::)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Asadullah on February 02, 2017, 06:27:56 pm
*Decent looks at Stormeus to post a pragraph concising everything about vcdc and a declaration. Since nobody else can have a pro mind like him in this critical situation.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: MaDKilleR on February 02, 2017, 07:18:35 pm
Even If you guys want to go with the regional paradigm, it sounds okay. We can first have regional champions and then proceed to have them duel each other for an ultimate champ of the event. Meanwhile, the regional ones maintain their ranks irrespective of the outcome of their global matches.

As for the ping issue, can't we just decide the host according to the two players who are dueling? For example, if it's someone from USA dueling someone from Asia or the Middle East, why not have a host in Europe where both players can expect if not equal, then decent pings?

If you want players with equal pings dueling each other, then they would be probably from the same region. What's the point of the event then? Just a couple of people dueling their friends from the same region like any other day? Diversity is the entire point and you guys are missing it. It would be more exciting to watch it this way. You can't control pings completely but partially.

Here's my final stance: First have regional champs with ping limits in accordance to their region. Then make the regional champs duel each other for a final champion of the event, with a decent host and ping limits in accordance with both players who are dueling . The final winner maintains both ranks, regional and global one, while the others get to keep their regional ranks regardless of the outcome of the finals.

Fair enough, right?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on February 02, 2017, 07:53:33 pm
Pakistan is a problem for Asian regional championship.
They don't get a good ping in Indian/Singapore servers.

A solution is to host the server in Dubai, where we all MIGHT get a good ping. But it's hard to find a decent cheap host there. The cheapest I could search for is this (https://www.aeserver.com/my/cart.php?gid=9) and it is 4 times more expensive than a usual host.  :(
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Freak on February 02, 2017, 08:42:54 pm
A solution is to host the server in Dubai, where we all MIGHT get a good ping.

I'm not really sure about others but I'm getting a decent ping to Dubai server.

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJndT7Qf.jpg&hash=c84e15c4d2a037e2cc301662bdc03c1a2415d07b)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 02, 2017, 09:01:50 pm
lol thats actually kinda expenssive axxo, what about indian and singapore ones? what ping would pakistanis get? like 100 or less..?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Freak on February 02, 2017, 09:13:03 pm
What ping would pakistanis get? like 100 or less..?

Umm no... more like 300 :-X
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 02, 2017, 09:15:10 pm
oh lol, why so tho those are close countries to pakistan, however id have no problem setting up the dubai server even if it costs 40 euros per month but... dont take years (4-5 months long tournament)to make the fights there xD you know what i mean
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on February 02, 2017, 09:16:37 pm
lol thats actually kinda expenssive axxo, what about indian and singapore ones? what ping would pakistanis get? like 100 or less..?

Packets from Pakistan to India(or India to Pakistan) first travel to the US all around the pacific and then reach our neighboring country :D
It is probably due to bad relations, the government has setup embargoes. There is no data center to route the packets from.

Only in some Paki ISPs I have seen a < 100 ping.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Thijn on February 02, 2017, 10:31:43 pm
Can some Pakistan people gimme pings to these IPs?

Mumbai
35.154.63.252
52.66.66.2

Singapore
46.51.216.14

Tokyo
13.112.63.251

Those are the amazon locations, maybe we can use one of those...

And maybe test this one:
http://speedtest-blr1.digitalocean.com/
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on February 02, 2017, 11:43:56 pm
I'm not really sure about others but I'm getting a decent ping to Dubai server.

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJndT7Qf.jpg&hash=c84e15c4d2a037e2cc301662bdc03c1a2415d07b)

Faster than 99% of Pakistan. (https://viceunderdogs.com/Themes/ViceUnderdogs/images/ratings/winner.png)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: SMD on February 03, 2017, 03:01:00 am
I have a gaming internet, my ping is 28 in Dubai.

Can some Pakistan people gimme pings to these IPs?

Mumbai
35.154.63.252
52.66.66.2

Singapore
46.51.216.14

Tokyo
13.112.63.251

Those are the amazon locations, maybe we can use one of those...
200+ ping on all ip's.

And maybe test this one:
http://speedtest-blr1.digitalocean.com/
190 on this.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on February 03, 2017, 03:59:34 am
lol thats actually kinda expenssive axxo, what about indian and singapore ones? what ping would pakistanis get? like 100 or less..?

Packets from Pakistan to India(or India to Pakistan) first travel to the US all around the pacific and then reach our neighboring country :D
It is probably due to bad relations, the government has setup embargoes. There is no data center to route the packets from.

Only in some Paki ISPs I have seen a < 100 ping.

Holy shit...
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Freak on February 03, 2017, 08:36:42 am
Mumbai
35.154.63.252
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMAQXPGm.png&hash=298b7e164a35eb9109a14c78baf10317918f99ea)

Mumbai
52.66.66.2
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FboRYUye.png&hash=ef7dcf0051c08f21c8e11a75edee7f4c9817a4d8)

Singapore
46.51.216.14
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FS9ZPjvM.png&hash=4995dc6c0bee6818ef75c376bdc0b33ae11b42d1)

Tokyo
13.112.63.251
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FS9QqVGN.png&hash=993ba63028ff46c2a486a2e55e0adc0c7e9cce82)



And maybe test this one:
http://speedtest-blr1.digitalocean.com/

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLM8dykB.png&hash=9699e2e01dfcb3777610aa836b75013be946aea4)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: La[Z]eR on February 03, 2017, 10:25:22 am
Naice :D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Sora_Blue on February 03, 2017, 01:29:42 pm
I have a gaming internet, my ping is 28 in Dubai.
(https://i.imgflip.com/1iw93f.jpg)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on February 03, 2017, 05:59:37 pm
I have a gaming internet, my ping is 28 in Dubai.
(https://i.imgflip.com/1iw93f.jpg)
(https://i.imgflip.com/1iwwk1.jpg)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: SMD on February 03, 2017, 06:22:52 pm
I have a gaming internet, my ping is 28 in Dubai.
(https://i.imgflip.com/1iw93f.jpg)


(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fp9BCenH.png&hash=05f6691c21139206662cc74163b6e92fca15d466)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 03, 2017, 07:48:21 pm
I have a gaming internet, my ping is 28 in Dubai.
(https://i.imgflip.com/1iw93f.jpg)
(https://i.imgflip.com/1iwwk1.jpg)
you forgot WK fanboy
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Sora_Blue on February 04, 2017, 12:55:27 am
When your old clan forgets that you were a full member ¯\_( ͡; ͜ʖ ͡; )_/¯
you forgot WK fanboy
I was with WK since 2013 lol.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on February 04, 2017, 06:55:50 am
before being full member you were asking for help to get your skills well trained enough didnt u? (including me) after that you started licking Xyoubemydad's asshole. :/
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: D.E.[[V]].I.L on February 04, 2017, 07:49:21 am
than he become pro without ass licking and you start provoking and start changing topics.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Sora_Blue on February 04, 2017, 08:59:43 am
before being full member you were asking for help to get your skills well trained enough didnt u? (including me) after that you started licking Xyoubemydad's asshole. :/
Just cause you're an old mentor of mine doesn't mean a thing.
Besides it was UJI who brought me in, I met Xyu like a half year later.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Klaus on February 04, 2017, 11:36:34 am
European Championship, nice. My money's on Poland.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Silent on March 05, 2017, 04:16:29 pm
Someone summarise this event please is it a world vs world event or player vs player event ?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on March 05, 2017, 05:11:51 pm
Someone summarise this event please is it a world vs world event or player vs player event ?
Vice city dueling championship. What do you think?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: WiLsOn on March 05, 2017, 05:12:54 pm
I don't know if anyone told u this yet but no one is interested to host the event from our side(i could be wrong) but that's what i know so far.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 05, 2017, 06:00:17 pm
I was told about VCDC wilson but i was told just the opposite you said dude, VCDC is gonna happen in summer lol

PD: this is now a bit contradicting.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: WiLsOn on March 05, 2017, 06:39:33 pm
Did i? lol well maybe i meant it happens in summer. :S







wilzon iz sorry forgive him. :'(
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: EvilSpiriT on March 05, 2017, 06:54:21 pm
Did i? lol well maybe i meant it happens in summer. :S







wilzon iz sorry forgive him. :'(
Regards maddy
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on March 05, 2017, 08:09:16 pm
Post video soon
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on March 05, 2017, 08:53:15 pm
(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F17%2F17ea8ed141a8f059e26865efb87f2880ebf8396ddff75cc7569144f6ea60dfc7.jpg&hash=5c86594a77bfa1bd362526b0d5f9aed57d4d29ae)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on March 06, 2017, 10:36:06 am
Juan vs Koray in 1st round  >:D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: koray on March 06, 2017, 12:53:42 pm
Juan vs Koray in 1st round  >:D

He's going to beat me with only M60 now :)
By the way,congratz for EYE tournament Juan ,hope you get that VCDC if its ever going to happen.I would really love to watch you in the final
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Silent on March 06, 2017, 05:13:53 pm
This should happen in summer  :D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 06, 2017, 08:09:46 pm
Juan vs Koray in 1st round  >:D

He's going to beat me with only M60 now :)
By the way,congratz for EYE tournament Juan ,hope you get that VCDC if its ever going to happen.I would really love to watch you in the final
thanks man, btw that means you wont participate if that happens?btw Our final will be always remembered as the non-laggy one xD
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on March 07, 2017, 11:29:18 pm
My money's on Noori.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: koray on March 08, 2017, 09:28:14 am
Juan vs Koray in 1st round  >:D

He's going to beat me with only M60 now :)
By the way,congratz for EYE tournament Juan ,hope you get that VCDC if its ever going to happen.I would really love to watch you in the final
thanks man, btw that means you wont participate if that happens?btw Our final will be always remembered as the non-laggy one xD

Unfortunately,Currently Im playing CSGO and when I actually tried VCMP again yesterday,I wasnt even able to hit a single shot :D

About that non-laggy match,I agree that we've got the most of the credits.But you and other players at that time  also know how much did I struggle of accusations during Quarter finals to finals.

0.3 was the best combat synch that VCMP ever had.Even if you had a laggy player as an opponent,you could still be able to beat with a proper lead aiming.Because shots were actually real-timing.Now it's delayed and it goes after the fire animation.In short,thats fucked up...

I think VCDC is not fair anymore with that version of VCMP.Entire tournament Format has to be changed.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on March 08, 2017, 02:14:06 pm
I don't see the problem with high pingers playing low pingers. Part of the skill in VC:MP is to be able to adapt to your opponents' lag. If you think about the players who have historically been seen as the best fighters in VC:MP, there is a huge variety in their pings - from low-ping Hanney to high-ping Ashay. FPS is a bit of a problem, I'll admit, and I think there should be a limit there. Something as insignificant as ping whining shouldn't stop a great championship from going ahead. This was the first big event to hit VC:MP, and had a profound influence on the revival and growth of the community in 2009. It would be a shame never to repeat it.

Having said that, I do think a couple of other limits should be put in place, as the 0.4 weapon dynamics have altered the balance in dueling a little. In my opinion, the following weapons should be disallowed: m4, ruger, explosives, chainsaw and anything fire-related.

We gotta remember this thing is supposed to be fun. Okay we have to try to make it fair too, but no competition here will ever be 100% fair. What I'm saying is that we should accept that there will be a degree of unfairness, and value the championship for the fact that it can be super fun.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: WiLsOn on March 08, 2017, 03:10:29 pm
A legendary event deserves a classic legendary close combat fights, i agree with Charley about disallowing m4, ruger, m60, explosion etc.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Silent on March 08, 2017, 03:43:24 pm
Is Spaz still allowed  :D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Piterus on March 08, 2017, 03:47:04 pm
Only stubby pls, thx.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on March 08, 2017, 05:07:41 pm
Dissallowing long range completely kills the event imo
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Klaus on March 08, 2017, 05:26:13 pm
then there would be an american winner an european winner and an asian winner, these three could fight each other to get the final win, world champ lol its just an idea tho.
I still think this is the best set up as I'd much rather have some decent non-laggy duels than have to fight players with 5x my ping. I personally couldn't care less about winning an event like this but I (and I can speak for some other EU players I know) would be much more willing to participate if lag was less of a factor before maybe progressing as your regional champion.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on March 08, 2017, 05:31:40 pm
then there would be an american winner an european winner and an asian winner, these three could fight each other to get the final win, world champ lol its just an idea tho.
I still think this is the best set up as I'd much rather have some decent non-laggy duels than have to fight players with 5x my ping. I personally couldn't care less about winning an event like this but I (and I can speak for some other EU players I know) would be much more willing to participate if lag was less of a factor before maybe progressing as your regional champion.

Hmm, yeah, that makes sense.

Dissallowing long range completely kills the event imo

The ones I mentioned don't disallow long range, m60, mp5, shotgun and python are still allowed. It only limits those weapons that hold a disproportionately high chance of achieving a headshot.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: SMD on March 08, 2017, 07:20:19 pm
No M4 ,then how my aimbot works :(
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 08, 2017, 07:24:05 pm
im ok as long as you dont disallow punching 
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on March 08, 2017, 09:26:37 pm
then there would be an american winner an european winner and an asian winner, these three could fight each other to get the final win, world champ lol its just an idea tho.
I still think this is the best set up as I'd much rather have some decent non-laggy duels than have to fight players with 5x my ping. I personally couldn't care less about winning an event like this but I (and I can speak for some other EU players I know) would be much more willing to participate if lag was less of a factor before maybe progressing as your regional champion.

Hmm, yeah, that makes sense.

Dissallowing long range completely kills the event imo

The ones I mentioned don't disallow long range, m60, mp5, shotgun and python are still allowed. It only limits those weapons that hold a disproportionately high chance of achieving a headshot.

Well to be fair, m4 is not the problem when fighting laggers, it's m60
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on March 08, 2017, 09:48:41 pm
A legendary event deserves a classic legendary close combat fights, i agree with Charley about disallowing m4, ruger, m60, explosion etc.
not m60 :(
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on March 08, 2017, 09:58:57 pm
How about we allow all weapons, but picking extra weapons will cost you HP.
There will be a HP cost associated with all over-powered weapons. When you spawn to duel, the overall cost is deducted from your HP.
Example:
M60, M4 - 30 HP
Ruger 20 HP
Chainsaw - 50 HP
Molotovs - 60 HP.
....etc.

No miniguns and RPG ofc
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Klaus on March 08, 2017, 10:21:20 pm
Chainsaw - 50 HP
Chainsaw would be the one weapon I would disallow; If you want to encourage CQB that is.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on March 08, 2017, 10:37:22 pm
Or we could all stop being pussies and just fight it out normally. This whole thing is frustrating, on par with lw's
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: morphine on March 09, 2017, 12:25:08 am
throw all the beasts in one cage like it's always been done
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on March 09, 2017, 12:39:39 am
Can we just get over this shit and do it the traditional way ?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on March 09, 2017, 01:00:19 am
Get rid of mollies,nades and long range weps. Keep it close combat dueling championship. Getting head with m4 is too common these days. Let people show what they got in close combat skills.

M4,mol and nades allowed = no fun.
Disallow chainsaw 101%
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on March 09, 2017, 04:36:24 am
Get rid of all weapons and keep the good old Colt .45.
Noori still wins unless he don't apply.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 09, 2017, 04:48:45 am
what about the last VCDC? you guys allowed m60 m4 etc or didnt you? im not sure about the 3 edition but i guess it wasnt allowed, however close combats aint that popular anymore i wouldnt remove m6 or m4,

plus 1v1 fights should begin being close to the enemy like 5-10 metters away or so, that wouldnt let the m4 whores enough distance to do their m4 whoring properly so i see no prob with it.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on March 09, 2017, 05:08:10 am
what about the last VCDC? you guys allowed m60 m4 etc or didnt you? im not sure about the 3 edition but i guess it wasnt allowed, however close combats aint that popular anymore i wouldnt remove m6 or m4,

plus 1v1 fights should begin being close to the enemy like 5-10 metters away or so, that wouldnt let the m4 whores enough distance to do their m4 whoring properly so i see no prob with it.
indeed, distance should be kept less, In case m4 is allowed.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on March 09, 2017, 10:09:03 am
Or we could all stop being pussies and just fight it out normally. This whole thing is frustrating, on par with lw's

It's always necessary to balance things in events - there is no 'normal' way.

Season 1: Only stubby
Season 2: Shotgun/Stubby, Colt 45/Python, Uzi/Tec 9
Season 3: Stubby, Shotgun, m60, Tec-9, Python, Katana
Season 4: All weapons except melee weapons, Grenades, molotovs, tear gas, rocket launcher, spaz, minigun, flamethrower and FPV with M60 and M4.

I still think all pings should fight each other, but wep balance is necessary given VC:MP game dynamics. If M60 poses a real issue fighting laggers, then the solution should be to prohibit it, not to allow everything else.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 10, 2017, 04:15:08 am
FPS with m60 and m4? i guess you mean FPV dont you? sorry i didnt get that, anyway i'd be up for either repeating VCDC2 rules or VCDC3's with the addition of m4(VCDC4's at all), VCDC1 ones seem old fashioned.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on March 10, 2017, 04:34:47 am
Talking about old fashioned
FPS with m60 and m4? i guess you mean FPV dont you? sorry i didnt get that, anyway i'd be up for either repeating VCDC2 rules or VCDC3's with the addition of m4(VCDC4's at all), VCDC1 ones seem old fashioned.
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Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on March 10, 2017, 11:15:14 am
i guess you mean FPV dont you?

Haha yeah, sorry, was writing in a hurry.

Well you guys are the experts here, you should decide the rules, I'm just giving my opinion/advice as the manager of the other VCDCs.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: MaDKilleR on March 10, 2017, 06:16:44 pm
throw all the beasts in one cage like it's always been done

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDRDgXHG.png&hash=f12824a68b16c371cf53192e117ab88e2d86cafe)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on March 11, 2017, 04:15:09 am
if FPV is allowed rip vcdc
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 12, 2017, 12:14:34 am
My money's on milko winning the event. serious bet
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on March 12, 2017, 06:27:13 am
My money's on milko winning the event. serious bet

I won't be playing.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on March 12, 2017, 07:11:29 am
ive already lost it then, bad bet,THANK YOU
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on April 12, 2017, 06:25:27 pm
I got a cheap host($6 per month) in Dubai, though the service is really shitty. One day I had 100ms ping, then it jumped to 300ms for some days.

146.71.94.199:8190

Might go forward with this thing.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: RaideN on April 13, 2017, 07:50:46 am
all weps should be allow except molotov chainsaw..
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Siezer on April 13, 2017, 07:57:38 am
all weps should be allow except molotov chainsaw..

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And yes I am not sure about M60 but M4,should not be allowed as we all know it is is no longer difficult to make headshots by changing sensitivity. It will not be close combat and it will ruin the event.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 13, 2017, 02:16:12 pm
If a weapon is troublesome to you, than its troublesome to your opponent as well.Some players have good skills with chainsaw and some have good skills with M4 and stubby, So I don't get the point of banning chainsaw from the event I mean it applies to both sides, both sides have equal chances of death when someone uses chainsaw and there is no glitch associated with chainsaw.

It's just lame how people care about their skills and forget about what others are good at, I'm done with this shitpickle people creating over chainsaw, M4,sniper and RPG. It's too bad if you are not good at chainsaw, but you have M4 skills but because people are afraid of chainsaw, they banned the weapon from the event to get the upper hand.

I'm not one bit interested in this shit.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on April 13, 2017, 07:05:20 pm
chainsaw would totally kill 1v1 fighting essence in this event which is the most important VCMP event when it comes to 1v1 (first one as well).

We, players from 0.3 R1 or older versions (not r2) understand this very well, since there was no chainsaw nor m4 whoring and we always liked the old school VCMP style.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 13, 2017, 08:39:27 pm
Why even bother calling it a duel than
Call it stubby / shitgun duel championship almighty vcmp player tournament best player determining machine and tool 4 players
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on April 13, 2017, 09:03:57 pm
Why even bother calling it a duel than

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkingofwallpapers.com%2Fduel%2Fduel-003.jpg&hash=204d5254416ced86bedc7a1c0692f89f1a73e3b3)

Does this not count as a duel, because they're only using pistols, and not every weapon known to man?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Sora_Blue on April 14, 2017, 03:39:52 pm
So I don't get the point of banning chainsaw from the event I mean it applies to both sides, both sides have equal chances of death when someone uses chainsaw and there is no glitch associated with chainsaw.
Not true, damage received from chainsaw can be manipulated by FPS adjusting.
The higher your FPS the more damage/instant death you will get.
In essence, you can simply cheat with most weapons here.
Either by adjusting your FPS or by changing game files.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: karan on April 14, 2017, 04:10:59 pm
So I don't get the point of banning chainsaw from the event I mean it applies to both sides, both sides have equal chances of death when someone uses chainsaw and there is no glitch associated with chainsaw.
Not true, damage received from chainsaw can be manipulated by FPS adjusting.
The higher your FPS the more damage/instant death you will get.
In essence, you can simply cheat with most weapons here.
Either by adjusting your FPS or by changing game files.
With your logic, we should play with fist, isn't it?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: PunkNoodle on April 14, 2017, 04:48:59 pm
So I don't get the point of banning chainsaw from the event I mean it applies to both sides, both sides have equal chances of death when someone uses chainsaw and there is no glitch associated with chainsaw.
Not true, damage received from chainsaw can be manipulated by FPS adjusting.
The higher your FPS the more damage/instant death you will get.
In essence, you can simply cheat with most weapons here.
Either by adjusting your FPS or by changing game files.
With your logic, we should play with fist, isn't it?
No, we all know roundkicks don't work very well on laggers and very close combat tends to desync dealing no damage, I suggest to use cars as weapons 8)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on April 14, 2017, 06:00:48 pm
No, we all know roundkicks don't work very well on laggers and very close combat tends to desync dealing no damage, I suggest to use cars as weapons 8)
True. Let's use Sea Sparrows for Vice City Pilot Championship.
No one has ever complained about lag or sync issues with heli-cannons.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: SMD on April 14, 2017, 08:40:51 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 15, 2017, 07:01:38 am
There was an event in XE named Golden Shotgun, why not rename VCDC to golden shotgun ?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: krystianoo on April 15, 2017, 09:29:42 am
better solution: fuck vcdc make another event thx
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on April 15, 2017, 10:44:02 am
Agree with shawn. To everyone crying about ''OLD GLORIOUS 0.3 FIGHTS'', welcome to 2017, welcome to 0.4
We're not in 0.3, we evolved
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Milko on April 15, 2017, 11:41:54 am
Agree with shawn. To everyone crying about ''OLD GLORIOUS 0.3 FIGHTS'', welcome to 2017, welcome to 0.4
We're not in 0.3, we evolved

That sucks major ballsack.
pičko  >:D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on April 15, 2017, 12:48:48 pm
Okay so it seems here we have two groups of people with irreconcilable views - group 1 wants weapon balance, group 2 does not.

No matter how much either group shouts at the other, their opinions won't change. So the obvious solution here is to have two VCDC streams - one with balance, one without. Players can apply for just one, or both. This would satisfy both group 1 and group 2, and would remove the unnecessary hostility between them in this topic.

Different people like to play this game differently - there is no 'right' way. Let's celebrate both ways of dueling here.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on April 15, 2017, 01:08:46 pm
What the hell, no.

What we're saying is that there's no ''2 ways of dueling''. There's one.
Long range requires just the same amount of skill as short-mid range. In fact it adds more diversity and dynamics to dueling.

Idk how you people duel but duels are now composed of both elements, used in appropriate ways.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on April 15, 2017, 03:40:30 pm
What the hell, no.

What we're saying is that there's no ''2 ways of dueling''. There's one.

That's just not true - you can have a python duel, a shotgun duel, a stubby duel, a spaz duel etc. etc.
You can have a 'no-glitch' duel, a FS duel, a jump-only duel etc.

There are thousands of different types of duels you can have.

You might prefer to include long range, fine. Others prefer to keep it short range, also fine.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 15, 2017, 05:05:18 pm
What about no restrictions over weps ??
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on April 15, 2017, 06:52:08 pm
Yes to chainsaw no to m4

Yes to m4 no to chainsaw
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: FuRo[X]o on April 15, 2017, 07:47:27 pm
What about fps limit?
Please set fps limit 60 cuz it will be fine and will reduce the lagg as well and also ping limit 200-260 cuz Some Pakistani(me) have high ping so if the ping limit will be lower than 200 then we won't be able to join.....
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on April 15, 2017, 08:24:16 pm
im not a m4 whore in fact i dont like it, but if chainsaw is going to be allowed (which totally ruins the fun of having a nice 1v1 fight) m4 should be allowed as well, ez change sens to 0.000350 and start poping heads from long range :D (that also ruins the 1v1 fighting essence but as some of you seem like wanting to prune so much with chainsaw, theres no other way :L)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on April 15, 2017, 10:33:23 pm
Okay people are just repeating themselves now....  ;D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on April 16, 2017, 01:12:39 am
How about allowing chainsaw for one round and same with m4? allowing it for one round isn't a big deal?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: aXXo on April 16, 2017, 01:45:46 am
How about allowing chainsaw for one round and same with m4? allowing it for one round isn't a big deal?
Not a bad idea. Something like this can be done.
Total 9 rounds:
3 rounds of traditional close combat:

3 rounds of standard fight

3 rounds of cats and dogs

The true champion needs to be good at everything  :P
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: karan on April 16, 2017, 02:12:34 am
  • Only 1 ammo of RPG
:(
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on April 16, 2017, 04:25:23 am
if what axxo says is happening you should rename it then, VCDC essence came out from those old jumping fights we (R1 players) know about, since vcdc came out from that dont change it keep it as it was, thumbs up for 0.3z R1 ( not R2 i know you R2 players cant have this feeling) and for the original VCDC
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 16, 2017, 05:15:13 am
Someone pls host a R1 server for Juan,he is really missing it.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on April 16, 2017, 05:19:15 am
Like i said lil trolls from r2-0.4 cant understand it, its not worth it trying to make them understand it, having zero chances to win the event itself makes them think like that (even tho they claim they dont give a fuck about the event, but yet they're here giving opinions and trying to put rules into it) :P

PD: i didnt name anyone, in case anyone feels offended no hard feelings pls
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Dr.Shawn on April 16, 2017, 07:08:36 am
There is only one thing I care about in this topic that chainsaw is being treated like overpowered shit, well that true when it's in good hands.

Everyone is against chainsaw because they suck at it and when someone kills them with a chainsaw, it pisses them off.
Firstly CTF said that chainsaw will not be there in their server ,Than EAD restricted it to only a few sets and now vcdc also treating the weapon like shit which is just not fair for chainsaw users.Does not matter how much experienced you are but you can always learn.
its not worth it trying to make them understand it, having zero chances to win the event itself makes them think like that
I don't care if you get offended but I will name you
@Juan you totally misunderstood the concept of tournament, it's not about winning or losing, it's about a good environment and skilled gameplay, it's certain that not everyone can be good at everything.It's really sad that you can come up with a reply like that just to piss me off.

You probably don't know but I'm also playing this game since 2009, you aren't the only old veteran here, there are like 30+ active old school veterans, It's true that I don't give a damn about this event at this stage but still I will participate to enjoy the event.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Siezer on April 16, 2017, 09:50:25 am
Honestly, chainsaw shouldn't be allowed and it wasn't allowed even in the previous season and not even a single person complained about it and everything went well. If players are insisting on having chainsaw in the game then I will stick with axxo's idea but there is no need to expand the the arena. There is also no need to permit explosives.Why are we wrecking the reputation of VCDC. Just let it be as it is. There are no changes required at all.I don't think we need to change the size of cage . If players want to use long range allow m60\m4 along with stubby/shotgun in the first 3 rounds and then go with stubby/shotgun for next 3 rounds and allow chainsaw in the rest of the rounds if players insist. wep that should deal with it in the same cage.

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Everyone is against chainsaw because they suck at it and when someone kills them with a chainsaw, it pisses them off.
Firstly CTF said that chainsaw will not be there in their server ,Than EAD restricted it to only a few sets and now vcdc also treating the weapon like shit which is just not fair for chainsaw users.Does not matter how much experienced you are but you can always learn.

Shawn, you are right about it but there are so few people in this community who use chainsaw and mostly the players who play in EAD are good at it.There are many people in this community who don't play in EAD and don't use it and they dislike it.Mostly the player of EAD are insisting on allowing the chainsaw but this event has been organized for the whole community and not for them only. Now you will say it is their problem that they don't use it. You are right but we need to consider all the pros and cons of this event otherwise our number of participants will drop to a considerable extent.It is gonna happen whether you admit it or not.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ferrari32 on April 16, 2017, 10:10:17 am
I agree with siezer. Small cage, both long and close range weps allowed.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: WiLsOn on April 16, 2017, 10:48:17 am
Stop posting long ass posts, i only read few lines then i get bored, either post less or don't post at all.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Ryne on April 16, 2017, 10:39:34 pm
aXXo just gave a perfect idea above there. go with it. everyone will go home happy
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on May 29, 2017, 10:31:03 am
It's official: This is happening.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on May 29, 2017, 10:40:36 am
nice charley, when exactly?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Charley on May 29, 2017, 10:44:21 am
It's up to Siezer, he's taking the lead this season.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: JuaN. on May 29, 2017, 10:50:57 am
cool then, so siezer when exactly?
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Siezer on May 29, 2017, 11:39:45 am
Very soon fellas , we'll be done with its management and board/topics too.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: krystianoo on May 29, 2017, 01:15:54 pm
i'm taking over the lead for vice war
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: lilly on May 29, 2017, 03:03:36 pm
i'm taking over the lead for vice war


go team with wk better
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Zeeshan.Bhatti on May 29, 2017, 03:14:50 pm
It's official: This is happening.
Great!
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Freak on May 29, 2017, 03:41:42 pm
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: krystianoo on May 29, 2017, 03:46:02 pm
i'm taking over the lead for vice war


go team with wk better

when i was playing against wk u were pretending to be girl in minecraft servers
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Sevrin on May 29, 2017, 03:54:04 pm
Great :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Piterus on May 29, 2017, 04:08:50 pm
Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Silent on May 31, 2017, 01:13:58 pm
Cant wait even though i will go out first round  :P
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: karan on May 31, 2017, 01:22:51 pm
Cant wait even though i will go out first round  :P
HEHEHE, so confident
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Norman4354 on May 31, 2017, 04:42:58 pm
Can't wait to participate in such a huge event 8) =D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Silent on May 31, 2017, 04:59:36 pm
If it ever happens evreyone too busy to host it  :'(
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Almo on May 31, 2017, 07:14:48 pm
It's up to Siezer, he's taking the lead this season.
If it ever happens evreyone too busy to host it  :'(

Well they said he's taking the lead, means they have a host for that too anyways looking forward to the competition
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Thijn on May 31, 2017, 08:31:59 pm
If it ever happens evreyone too busy to host it  :'(
Don't worry, boards are already made privately, some staff people have been invited, and scripts are in the works. It's happening.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: MaDKilleR on June 01, 2017, 12:04:58 am
Nice, another event for me to win.
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: ZUBI on June 01, 2017, 06:13:51 am
Brand event, looking forward in to it  :)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: koray on June 01, 2017, 12:13:55 pm
Aye you owe me a seat from vip in finals
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Piterus on June 01, 2017, 01:41:38 pm
You mean wild card? :D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: krystianoo on June 01, 2017, 03:12:33 pm
vcdc 2017 happening here is pic from staff section (dont leak plz)

(https://viceunderdogs.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvh2SyW0.png&hash=f04f08e3249e5c0b0217783d7657495b636028c8)
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: FulToN_619 on June 02, 2017, 01:39:33 pm
Can't wait :D
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: PunkNoodle on June 02, 2017, 03:52:08 pm
(https://snag.gy/wNYxXv.jpg)

Krystianoo neo-fascist confirmed :-\
Title: Re: VCDC?
Post by: Piterus on June 02, 2017, 04:32:42 pm
Ok, Vice City Dueling Championship Season 5 boards available now! Welcome!